DHS agents retreat as Chicago cops refuse to shield them from swarming protesters
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She’s not wrong. It’s just that her agents are causing the war part.
Now ice can feel the full Trans Experience ™️
That would also require beatings.
One can dream, damnit!!!!!
"Invading paramilitary force not being suitably supported by the the locals of the place being invaded" says leader of paramilitary force in an interview on her Party's Propaganda Channel.
Oh no! Those antifa monsters, disallowing an entire class of people from using the bathroom!
The poor them must feel so opressed!
Luckily, them being sane humans with empathy, they'll realise how trans people've felt for ages!
(unfortunately /s.)
Now THAT'S peaceful protest 😀
I don't know... could get messy.
Noem can dig a pit and use it as a latrine like she did for her goats,horses, and Dog, if you catch my drift.
Do you think these people ever have an occasional moment when they think to themselves "I sound literally insane"?
I dont think they have much calm inside their heads honestly.
She's gonna be shocked when someone reads her the 3rd amendment
Good. They should not feel welcome ANYWHERE they go; no comfort, no peace, to the enemy.
Noem: It's a war zone out there! It's crazy!
Them: What do you mean? People are shooting at each other? Bodies in the streets?
Noem: They won't let us pee in their restrooms!
Well did the ICE agents submit to gender checks first, to make sure they’re using the correct restroom? A copy of their birth certificate should suffice.
Not good enough we also have to do a manual inspection. Michael testicletickler is going to be doing the inspections. Dont let the name worry you though, he doesn't tickle testicles only fingers buttholes.
What a great job! Do you need a college degree for that?
Actually having a degree prohibits you from getting the job.
I'll pad my resume by leaving off my college degree. What are they going to do, call every college in America and see if I graduated? Hah! I got this job in the bag.
I better order some fresh lube. I heard Diddy is selling his old lube on Craigslist.
Something, something - Third Amendment?
I’m not an American - but I’m pretty sure the 3rd basically means that they can (and should) be refused service freely by anyone and everyone who wants to?
No, the 3rd amendment means your house/apt can't be turned into a barracks.
Refusing service is just how things are, no specific amendment
Fair enough!
I don’t know the exact specifics surrounding the denial of access to bathrooms (ie. if they were private residence, commercial business or public access); but in the case of the first two - even if not necessary- either the 3rd or 4th amendments could be used as grounds to legally refuse entry and/or sue in the event of subsequent unlawful trespass.
Either way, this entire fiasco is just an amusing sideshow to the otherwise absolute carnage that ICE is attempting to wreak upon US cities.
I just wish I still had enough faith in the political opposition to be able to hold each and every one of these barbarians (starting with Stephen Miller) to account if/when the current regime collapses in on itself.
The 3rd talks about quartering soldiers during times of peace, and the administration is making the claim that these cities are in a state of "war."
Also, forcing a private entity to involuntarily open their facilities to soldiers needs, could still be considered a violation of 3A They may not be sleeping, but using toilet facilities could be considered quartering. That's the sort of thing that would take court precedents to establish, perhaps even the Supreme Court.
🏳️⚧️: First time?
I'd add that they should be identified and not welcome anywhere ever.
Which is why the cops aren't cooperating. The ICE Jackals will leave town when they are done fucking things up, but these cops will still be here, living among their neighbors, going to church, the grocery store, etc. Imagine what's going to happen to your kids at school, whose Dad helped break up and deport families who had friends and relatives at school?
No, if I'm a Chicago cop, I'm staying as far away from this mess as possible. Might even be a good time to take a couple of weeks of that PTO I've been saving up.
Why are you so pro war crimes? ICE having to pee in bottles while trapped in a U-Haul is worse than Gaza. This hate for our troops has no business here!
If you're cold they're cold!
Had me in the first.
Soon, they'll be hauling around their own Poop Truck.
No piss for the enemy.
Huh, I guess cops arnt always shitty.
Almost every time like the one we are currently living in involves police/military people having to decide where their loyalties lie. Sometimes it's with the people, sometimes it's with the regime. Very often it is different between different agencies (with the lowest-level ones tending to side with the people).
The US is such a patchwork (both organizationally and on in individual level for each cop) that I think there will be a big and chaotic variety. It could range from sheriff's departments headed by Trump-loyal sheriffs who are willing to go to war with city agencies who are trying to protect their people, all the way over to city cops who eventually start actively defending their cities against the feds who are trying to do obviously illegal things there. That last one hasn't happened yet but I think it may be right around the corner. Things are changing. Those city workers telling Kristi Noem to get fucked from being allowed to pee in Broadview City Hall, that stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum.
In just about every way. During "normal" times, that makes for more bureaucracy and Kafka, but the silver lining is that when fascists take over the entire federal government, it's harder for them to tear everything down all at once than if the country were more monolithic.
Yeah. I feel like part of it is just historical / accidental, but also, resisting fascism (in modern terminology) was more or less the absolutely key overriding priority that the US government had built into it at the start.
Even things like having each state run its own mini-election and be in charge of it, instead of a single federal election, start to seem pretty prescient in the current climate.
They just don't care.
ICE called for backup once because of protestors, cops if ored them, so they shot someone in a car because there was traffic, rammed another car in traffic, and then detained at least one US citizen.
Cops want no part of it, it doesn't mean they're out their protecting citizens from ICE, they're likely laughing about it.
They can 100% still be shitty
ICE pepper sprayed cops and protestors alike
Til cpd are less shitty than LAPD.
Cops don't want anyone above them interfering with their
cityracket.Cops are weird, it's a mix of 'this our turf, you wanted to come in here so FAFO', laziness, a vague sense of duty directed at ???, and some eclectic variety of incoherent personal politics that separates the feds into the camp of 'other' at least temporarily.
Or they're doing this intentionally hoping that it sparks some bigger conflict, where they along with ICE 'justify' getting to pull out the real big boy toys to use on the populace. Considering the coordination and organization behind the "thin blue line" and my own personal experiences with police, I'm more inclined to believe this than all them suddenly growing a conscience and doing the right thing as an organization.
Nah, the "not in my city" mindset is a far simpler explanation.
Looking at the difference between LAPD and cpd behavior: It's probably because Chicago is a genuinely hard city, and the cpd know they'll be straight up fuvking hunted if they're seen protecting ice. They're not good–they're confident people will provide them with justice if they get caught up in this–as every cop should be
Chicago has a rule. To work for the city in any capacity. You MUST live in the city. Police, fire, City Hall, public works. You live in the place you are tasked with protecting or serving. You can't even live in the suburbs 1 block outside city limits.
This is explicitly the opposite in many other places where police are specifically not allowed to live where they police. From what I understand, it's so that there isn't a conflict of interest enforcing rules against neighbors.
They live there, as do their families.
You don't shit were you eat.
It's not by chance that all throughout History rulers violently imposing their will on the people of a place invariably bring those who will be commiting the violence from somewhere else.
Cops and their families do not live in the places they police, even when offered bonuses to do so.
This is true in a lot of places but I actually looked it up to reply the same thing and as of 2014 at least, 88% of Chicago cops live in Chicago.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-police-dont-live-in-the-cities-they-serve/
Oh, woah. Thats kind of freaky.
Also pig farms.
I liked the side article on how sad it is ice agents are being turned away at restaurants and they are not even allowed to use the restroom.
"Shit your pants, Nazi!"
Have you no sympathy for those pathetic flag pissing traitors?
Heh-heh, no.
Judging from your user name, I suspect your feelings are stronger than "dislike."
Carry on, Citizen.
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After a hard days' work they just want to kick back at their local taquiera and enjoy a few frosty cervezas. What's the problem?
I would not be surprised to learn that ICE hires undocumented immigrants and that that's one of the reasons they go around masked. It would not exactly be unprecedented -- many of the overseers on Southern cotton plantations were themselves slaves.
Very plausible. Many unfortunate souls find themselves in inescapable situations like that. If the option is Alligator Auschwitz or don a swastika and neck gaiter, most will choose the latter.
That last paragraph, from a FOX News correspondent, makes it sound like it was some ad hoc decision. It was not. Illinois does not permit any state, county, or local law enforcement to assist federal agents with their federal enforcement objectives.
ICE agents were in the middle of doing federal enforcement work. Crowd control is on them.
Never happened. The source is Fox News, the tentpole of the Conservative Propaganda Machine, and they lie 100% of the time. We are under no obligation to believe a single word that comes out of Fox News, in fact, I am inclined to believe the exact opposite.
Not saying I'm a fan of the police, but I think they made a good call this time.
..... this time.
It's Illinois state law that they're prohibited from assisting federal agents in doing federal agent stuff.
So for once the cops were actually following the law.
"Gee guys, we'd love to help you abuse the rights of citizens, it's kind of our favorite thing, but our hands are tied here. I'm sure you understand."
That's shocking.
They are simply reading the room and making a calculated choice. The public needs to continue putting the pressure on, they are cracking at the local level first.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. in WWII we were allies with Stalin, and we knew full well he was a monster, and when the war was over, we were both going to after each other.
Except the saying really means "The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy". Nothing proves that any better than WWII.
Soon we may get to learn this lesson again with WW III ....
Kat Abughazaleh is asking people to attend a protest this Friday 10/10 at 9:30 a.m. at the ICE headquarters at 1930 Beach Street, Broadview, IL
Need an immediate response lefty team. Show up for these things and record and document everything with the intention that if government ever course corrects, there is now some record that might be able to identify these ICE agents and have justice served. They 100% are covering their face so that there's no way to charge them if courts ever try for any violations
They probably have their personal cell phones broadcasting device ids. Collect that data too.
That's the Chicago way.
“If anyone is gonna torment the people here, it’s gonna be us!”
Finally cops standing there doing nothing works in our favor. I never thought I'd see the day.
they were pepper sprayed by ICE, im betting if they dint things wouldve been different.
Tbh, if there's one thing that CPD won't ever do is help a person in trouble.
They earned this round of donuts.
Always remember: A cop that's eating, can't give a beating
A cop that's eating has more energy to kill someone brown
Do not capitulate, make them make you.
Never surrender in advance, never respond to their threats and/or intimidation, force them to go to court, force them to justify their behavior to a judge.
Make them pay dearly for every step they take.
Chicago cops are pretty corrupt. So this tells you something.
Salmon on the other hand are coho
Those fucking fish really piss me off!
Yeah but they’re still Chicagoans, and probably this was more about not wanting to do any work, lol. They’re more notorious for that than being corrupt these days.
Good job, Chi-town!
Time for the racist thug losers to drag their own portable shitters with them. The Blues Brothers and Chicago. The scene when Joliet Jake and Elwood drive through the fucking Nazis on the bridge. Stay Tough Chicago!