China sentences 11 members of mafia family to death
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While I disagree with death penalty on principle, I will not spill any tears for slavers.
I've heard about these. They lure people in with job offers (I've heard from Philippines etc), take their passport, and basically imprison them.
Be careful corrupt Chinese politicians. You may not want a precedence of death penalty when it's your turn.
The CCP actually executes corrupt politicians quite often. It's one of the few things I can agree with them on. The issue is, if they can be trusted to grant fair trials. And then you have to ask how much can you trust an authoritarian government on really anything.
No country should ever enforce the death penalty.
There's never been a country with the death penalty that has not made mistakes, and it vests an incredible amount of power in the state to silence political enemies and rivals.
Mistakes as well as "mistakes".
Reddit-moment.
If you think a country exist where every trial is fair, you are naive.
I bet trials in USA and China are about equally unfair, and both have death penalty.
It's better in EU, but any trial will always have potential problems of errors or bias or even corruption. But at least EU doesn't have death penalty.
Even political corruption shouldn't have death penalty.
Check prison population to general population comparisons and try again.
I mean not if you execute them
The CCP consists of nothing but corrupt politicians. Once in a while, they'll sacrifice one to make it look like they care.
The oligarchy doesn't like competition.
Someone in the CCP didn't get paid off.
Interesting that a country in the midst of a civil war is still able to stamp out this complicated problem within their borders.
I think this one was pretty obvious. They also turned them over to China for trial.
...well, technically the rebels did.
It is the military taking away a financing source for rebels. They mostly are not able to deal with problems like these though. Myanmar has turned into the biggest source of drugs in the world due to the civil war.
Have you even read the bloody article?
The rebels,which are well connected to China, had taken over the town these guys operated in and captured the scammers before extradition to China.
The bloody military has very likely been facilitating these guys for years.
Good.
The death penalty exists for scum like this.
I think the death penalty is a bad policy overall and particularly bad in a court system that's largely a rubber stamp for the prosecutor.
At the same time, it is hard to pull together sympathy for a cartel so casual in their cruelty and brutal in their oppression.
I would like to believe there's a world in which all these people get the Jack Ma treatment, with varying lengths of time doing rice farming to give them all a taste of humility, and then they come back to society older and wiser and more peaceful. It's a shame we don't live in that place.
Yes death penalty bad. Forced labour camp good
Ask anyone in an American prison what they think of work release relative to sitting in a filthy jail cell for months on end.
Putting a cartel boss into a McDonald's uniform is one of the kindest things you can do for them, under the modern criminal justice system.
"General Interest Work" (TIG) in France is an alternative/complement to incarceration for short sentences not exceeding 400 hours. It also requires consent from the defendant.
I think in principle it's fine, and it could be stretched for longer sentences. That's quite a bit better than hanging people in my humble opinion. Sorry to quench your murderous fantasies. The US have something like that, but it's exploitation for profit (their prisons are privately owned, it's a subject in and of itself).
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j'ai pas compris
Jack Ma basically just shut up for months and then ended up in Tokyo. He had to pay a lot, but is still a billionaire.
Ma is back in Alibaba HQ, ostensibly making executive decisions for the firm. That was all over the news a week or two ago and has been, in part, the reason for the stock's resurgence in price.
Wait, is this why Google shopping results have been chock full of Alibaba products over the last couple weeks?