Spyke
discuss.tchncs.de

People dont have money to spend on 20-50k€ toys when they can just use public transport or cycle to work. I assume the same is happening with the expensive fossil fuel cars.

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stoyreply
lemmy.zip

That is not the problem.

It is far more simple than that.

We are in a recession, people simply don't have the money to buy a new car, when they can get a used car with a far better value.

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discuss.tchncs.de

Thats literally what i wrote lol...
People dont have money, so they will use cheaper alternatives. Thats why i wrote "expensive fossil fuel cars" because its about the price, not the technology. If there were cheap EVs then this wouldnt be happening.

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Most people just have the exact money of their salary every month in the bank. No extra.

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feddit.org

Where I live people have more than enough, but they don't care for these ridiculous electric SUVs. Make sane cars whose price is justified.

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Yeah, I hate the current SUV and crossover style infecting every car model.

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lemmy.sdf.org

This is about EV demand slowing down.

But if you can use public transport or cycle to work, you shouldn't drive a car anyway, EV nor combustion engine. We need less cars in our cities and more public transport imho.

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BYD got stomped on by tariff. The only pattern is the fact that the oil barons are waging a war against electric vehicles and winning.

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That's true, but when people pay a fuck ton of money to buy a car, the expectation is that it will be able to handle longer trips as well. Sure, your every day may be to the supermarket and back, but you also want to load up the skis and go to the local mountain on the weekend, or to the beach in summer, meaning many hours driving in potentially very hot or cold weather - which affects the battery.

Doesn't matter how good the EV infrastructure is, imho a car needs good range otherwise you might as well use public transport or ride a bike.

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lemmy.world

There's overcapacity for cars in the world because the Chinese are fighting an internal price war due to overcapacity..., while at the same time no one has money to buy more expensive cars.

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vga
sopuli.xyz

They had the moment of a lifetime when Musk redoubled his efforts to make Tesla unpopular...... and they completely failed to grasp it.

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I'm not doubting any of that, that VW is doing currently better in the market than Tesla. I'm saying that they could've totally swept the floor with Tesla because of the idiocies of Musk but failed to do that.

Looking at my crystal ball, I'm guessing that unless VW dramatically and very quickly improves the quality of their cars (and especially the software) the end result of this will be that Tesla will bounce back.

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lemmy.world

Great to hear. The ID7 may be the game changer for VW after all

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lemmy.world

German electric car driver here.

VW has a bad reputation regarding EVs. Their butchered woke of their models so much, they went up in flames.

Other EVs seem to go better. BMW dominates the market for German EV I think

Just for context

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vapelokireply
lemmy.world

I have seen a view ID. 7 on the streets, yew. But mostly:

  • BMW i4, i5, Xi*
  • Kia
  • Mercedes

At work two colleagues became an electricial Audi. Both of them got toed to the next shop within the first two weeks because something just broke.

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Are you saying your personal experiences in your friend circle are more valid than the statistics posted?

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And I see mostly ID. 4, ID. 5 and various Tesla models (look all the same to me), the people I know who drive electric cars drive ID. 4 and ID. Buzz, it's all anecdotal.

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VW has been the best or second best selling EV on the Swedish market for a year or so.

I have a VW ID.7 myself and find it awesome. Had a Tesla Model 3 before.

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