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Eric Adams says many Gen Z voters who back his NYC mayoral rival Mamdani are ‘nasty, radicalized and hate our country’

New York Mayor Eric Adams did not mince his words about his disapproval of what he called the large number of “nasty” Gen Z voters supporting Zhoran Mamdani, the democratic socialist candidate leading the race for NYC mayor.

Eric Adams says many Gen Z voters who back his NYC mayoral rival Mamdani are ‘nasty, radicalized and hate our country’https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/eric-adams-new-york-election-mamdani-b2830456.htmlOpen linkView original on reddthat.com
lemmy.world

I'm not a Gen Z voter, so I certainly can't speak for them, but I hate our country. I hate that so many Americans are being left behind. I hate that we are falling so far behind other democracies. I hate that our democracy is so flawed and corrupted, that I'm not sure it's accurate to even call it a democracy anymore. I hate that so many Americans believe that being greedy, selfish, and indifferent to human suffering is not only acceptable, but somehow "rational." I hate the manipulation and the misinformation that is very intentionally disseminated to the American people. I hate the violence, I hate the war mongering and war profiteering. I hate a lot of what IS right now, because I DEMAND better for myself and ALL other Americans.

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lemmy.world

The deepest love you can have for your country is wanting better for all its residents.

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i am a gen z voter and although i dont live in nyc (i live in ny state tho so close enough i guess), i was gonna leave a separate comment. but you said pretty much exactly what i was thinking 🤷 i hate the selfishness that’s been so ingrained in people, they’d rather perpetuate cruelties than hope for anything even slightly better. i hate this country? what has this country ever done for me, a woman of color, other than prove time and again that everything i have can be taken away in an instant due to the greed of the rich and spiteful? this shit is all so fucked, if my so called “hatred” for this country is the only thing i can truly own, then let me own it with all my heart. i’d rather that than submit to apathy and ignore the struggles of those around me

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I don't respect anyone who isn't radicalized at this point. To look at the state to which our system is broken and not demand change by whatever means necessary is to be complicit in the atrocities being committed.

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lemmy.world

If Eric Adams doesn't like NYC, he can just stay at home in his Jersey apartment.

Even better, he can move down to Mar Lago and see how MAGA would really treat him.

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I love the story that he was so deep up their butts and so stupidly entitled that he was asking if Turkey Airlines could fly him from New York City to Easter Island.

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He's been a fraud for a long while now (probably his whole career back to NYPD, which pains me a bit to say because iirc he got his start calling out their racism), if he keeps trying to delegitimize the will of the voters like this we can start adding things like "tyrant" and "traitor" to his titles

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lemy.lol

Is this sarcasm? You mean people who care for personal hygiene can not vote Mamdani?

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lemmy.zip

Why is Adams channeling Trump? He knows he's black, right?

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DreamButtreply
lemmy.world

It'll last as long as they don't get bored with immigrants and trans folk. So like a year tops

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He is like that old guy in django unchained that stays loyal to his slaver until the end. And he will die for him if need be.

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lemmy.today

he wants a pardon from him. Plus his little stunt in december while making a dramatic perp walk with luigi was also to appear"strong" for trump.

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He doesn't need to get pardoned, because Trump's DoJ moved to have the case dismissed, which it was. With prejudice.

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feddit.uk

Trump is explicitly holding a legal gun to his head. Adams couldn't be any deeper in his pocket.

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I don't know, I feel like if that was the case, he would have dropped out of the race and accepted Trump's offer of an ambassadorship to Saudi Arabia. I think he's crazy enough to think he can beat this rap.

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feddit.org

Oh, yes, insult your potential voters, that will show them

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lemmy.ca

He should just become a Republican already. He’s got the credentials.

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Echreply

If they walk like a fuck, and talk like a fuck...

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Actually Mamdani's government would improve the country in a lot of ways, and would also be a big win for the economy of the owning class. That is because if people have more money, that stimulates consumption and that drives the economy forward. It's like a big engine, you gotta put fuel in it to drive it.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, but you gotta think of the shareholder value for the next quarter! The Chinese think in decades. We don't! Capitalism FTW, baby!

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Who cares about the profits of tomorrow even if they would be 10x what they are today... the number went up today see... we are doing so good!!!

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

nobody actually cares about shareholders, the entire foundational idea around stock-markets was to essentially act as a liquidity trap, to seperate the new-rich from their $. and it was a resounding success.

as with many other things, most of the rest of the world regulated out the most glaring flaws in this setup so that it's atleast somewhat functional, but certain rules/exceptions to rules exist within the american system that act as obscene advantages to insiders a/o old-money.

every single "crash" is by design, and the next rugpull won't be too much longer now...

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Joeffectreply
lemmy.world

Don't you mean the people with the closest and fastest connections so they can make pennies on trades before everyone else and make millions for basically no effort except some fancy stock trading algorithm they regularly update...

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no, algos and day traders are just exit liquidity

there are very specific rule-differences between the US and EU stock markets, if you look up and really think about those differences and who benefits most from them...and what it'd look like (on the tape) when/if someone who understands those rules uses them against someone who doesn't...

there's a reason they say the stock market isnt the economy, the stock market originally started as a way to seperate "smart" gamblers from their $.

Bull markets, when there's infinite liquidity, is when degenerate gamblers are running the price of everything up up up because they can, because ultimately the current spot-price is set by whoever is willing to risk the most $ at any given point.

But the more spot-price goes up beyond actual value...the more power and room the real $, whoever has the most capital and lowest cost-basis, has to rugpull those degenerate gamblers.

that is what market crashes are, the dukes clearing the degenerates off their table

the master stroke with the US is how expertly establishment politicians have tied the average US workers own wealth to that casino, 401k's? a dem super-majority under Carter and Rockefeller set that up...enabled a constant stream of bagholding liquidity pumps.

all forms of debt (like say...insanely expensive college, guaranteed by the government)? more liquidity, and eventually somebody can just buys those and package them off as some ahitty security to be sold. doesn't matter if they ever actually collect...

Uncle Sam paying farmers to grow specific amounts of specific crops, then just...destroying them? that insures the farmers are reliant on them, enables the banks give them loans, and lets insiders control the Futures market to make a killing. then when it's time to rug the farmers to steal their land (cause they can't pay their loans) and sell it off to corporate interests...just switch the party-in-power and manufacture an economic crisis that cuts those subsidies (long history of doing that, all the way back to the great depression)

and when the whole house of cards crashes down? just have the government step and add it to sovereign debt crisis, there's no plan to pay that off anyway afterall...the idea is inflate it away, and what does inflation (read liquidity...) feed into...the stock market, make those lines start going up again to reel in a new generation of suckers

it's a big fucking club, and your not in it

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the rich controls NYC, thats why they have a wierd prediliction towards republicans, or DINOs like adams, and cumuo.

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I hate "our country" for lack of job security, vacation, paternity leave, HEALTHCARE. And now there's the fascist on top of that... Fuck this place is a shit hole

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ttrpg.network

This reminds me of the famous post about estranged parents the missing missing reasons edit: fixed link

In it, the author writes about how like one of the estranged parents will be like "My child yelled at me and said all these horrible things for 20 minutes. I've never heard such cruelty!" But when pressed for exactly what the child was upset about, no reasons are provided.

So here Adams is saying these 'gen z" people are nasty and presumably have demands, but spends no time on what their demands are, on if they're reasonable. They're just nasty and wrong and to be dismissed.

Maybe there are reasons people are upset at the country right now. Could be the fascism, the corruption, the economic chaos, the climate crisis being ignored, the anti-vaxxers in power, the economic inequality...

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Thanks. I even looked up the markdown syntax and still did it wrong. Fixed now.

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Nothing radicalizes you more than perpetual poverty, struggle, suffering and hopelessness. If the world wasn't a system of tortures built by selfish billionaires, maybe we GenZ wouldn't be so radicalized.

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I'm Gen Z, and Mamdani is the better candidate. I don't live in NYC.

In typical Democratic fashion, the Democrats blame the voters for not "Voting Blue No Matter Who™" rather that adopting progressive, popular policies.

Vote these skeletons out

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You should tell this too maga first because maga is making sure to make not voting for Democrats as painful as possible. I fucking hate both parties but even I realize now is not the time to give the country over to the maga shitlords. The only way we are going to get them out is if they also agree to not vote for those dirtbags.

This is the reverse prisoners dilemma they put the nation in, they do this intentionally so that we can't vote third party and actually pass any legislation that benefits the working class or liberty or anything like that.

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Omg yes. Americans, cherish this man. Emulate his message in as many ridings as you can. If you like what he's saying, write your local reps and tell them that.

You could have a million Mamdanis.

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lemmy.world

They hate your country? Just because its a fascist dictatorship exploiting the rest of the world and committing genocide every chance they get? How could they.

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nasty, radicalized and hate our country

Man, wouldn't it be telling if that was a majority.

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Shit, he's getting his press releases straight from Stephen Miller's office now.

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lemmy.world

Eric Adams is an evil sack of shit in a skin bag and should have been drowned at birth. And I'm not even a Gen Z.

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eric adams being islamaphobic too, by calling people"radicalized and nasty" which have been attributed to muslims for decades.

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Bold thing to say for someone backed by a traitor. Its a patriotic duty for Americans to hate tyranny, that includes this administration. If you support this illegitimate administration, you are a traitor to the constitution and the enemy of America. For that matter, the "junta of 6" on the supreme court are also traitors.

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NEWS: 3rd gen of systematically disenfranchised citizens baffle leaded gasoline brained old guard and billionaire cronies

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lemmy.ca

As a member of Gen X who breathed all the leaded gasoline and still finds these people appalling, I think blaming their shit on lead poisoning is giving them a pass they don't deserve. Lead may have made us all a little dimmer and angrier, but it didn't turn most people into raging assholes, crooks or fascists, or gullible MAGA cultists. These people would have done it anyway, with or without the lead.

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Valid, but the leaded gasoline argument greatly invalidates geriatrics and the old guard to undermine everything they have to say or have ever said.

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Yeah, they hate what you turned it into. They want affordable living and politicians and the rich have no desire to reduce any of their massive salaries to help Americans.

We are all just cattle to them. So it's surprising to them when the cattle get tired of the same pen and break out.

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Did he just switch sides? He has to know that a corrupt scumbag like him condemning Mamdani is an endorsement.

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lemmy.world

He’s got such low numbers that it looks like the only people left supporting him are churchgoing old ladies. This would play to that crowd.

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"Corrupt mayor condemns political rival and his supporters over fear of being held accountable for his many crimes"

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lemmy.world

How the fuck did this idiot fool an entire city?

Why did so many people vote for adams?

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

because "we're better than republicans" was good enough for 2-3 prior generations but the latest arent having it. the (lack of) response to trump and co. and Israel's genocide makes it very hard to keep up the illusion that both sides arent haven't been the same for a long time (Cheney endorsement at DNC last year made that more obvious than ever, i hope...).

neolibs and the GOP have been ratfucking this country clean without stopping a beat for the last..30 years (and a lot longer than that, neolibs just made it less sustainable) and they still think they can go back to that when trump dies

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Fedizenreply
lemmy.world

Ok but what does that have to do with NYC electing Adams?

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

...because "he had a D by his name" was good enough for NYC, at one point.

it's not anymore

if the DNC losed NYC, they can lose anywhere...it's a message noone should be able to ignore

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Ah yes, great move. This tactic of insulting your opponent's supporters has been tested and proven effective in many political campaigns. Proven to guarantee you lose, that is.

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hell yeah I'm a nasty boy. I want all shills, pedophiles and sycophants to get the fuck out of office.

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Guess what buddy, all of those so-called nasty voters are going to vote for whoever the hell they want, and you can call them names, but they don't give a f*** what you think.

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Eric Adams is a corrupt piece of shit and it amazes me that he has not been forcibly dragged from his office by now.

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"Hey, I'd really like to afford a house and a family some day while staying in the city I grew up in and live"

"Fucking radicals"

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Older than Gen Z, but started hating the U.S. when I was their age. All talk about "freedom," but the moment you try to do something different than the crowd, some people will non-figuratively threaten to murder you.

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See, Adams may be a corrupt oligarch, but the real criminal in his eyes are people who are rude to him in public for it.

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I'm pretty sure the old always say the young hate the country.

"Get off my lawn!" "Those youths with their [insert sexual trend here] are destroying the country." "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!" "Those young people hate the country!" "It's Patrick, he just got life insurance."

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This country was founded on the idea that the New York mayor is a corrupt piece of shit. I will not be accepting arguments otherwise.

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Nothing like a senior citizen yelling at kids for checks notes wanting to vote for their preferred candidate.

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lemmy.ca

It should be etched in law that it's prohibited to call the voters of your rival anything bad as it only serves to cause a division in the country.

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sh.itjust.works

I like the idea, but the First Amendment exists so idiots can say dumb things like this out in the open and we can all point and laugh.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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I'd curtail the crap out of that first amendment

If you have a following,v you don't get to say whatever bull crap. You spread something that is known to be a lie, go to jail

I know the implications, but fix those them instead. Just letting people continuously get away with lying hasn't helped anyone since forever

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lemmy.world

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

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lemmy.world

And then they doubled down. It gave them such a strong rallying cry ot might have been one of the biggest factors of her losing

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Nearly 3 million more people voted for her than Trump. Ithe hard to say any 1 thing was the reason. It's just as easy to say there was a percentage of the population that wouldn't vote for a woman and that flipped enough purple states at the time.

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ot might have been one of the biggest factors of her losing

Besides Cambridge Analytica and foreign interference.

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lemmy.world

He is just afraid of ending in the unemployment line. As a professional politician, he has no real moneymaking skills in the real world.

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OK, that is probably part of the politicians curriculum. I'm not sure, though, if he could make a living from that.

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lemmy.ca

That country is never going back. Once the politicians doing this shit becomes the norm, it's all over.

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lemmy.ca

It's something that used to be said on occasion and shock people and now it's just expected. So... yeah, pretty much now.

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Just reread your comment and that was already what you were saying. I was trying to be funny, thereby adding nothing and potentially confusing other readers, including myself.

I'll show myself out.

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Is anyone except Donald Trump himself with Eric Adams?

Everyone saw his open corruption and as near as I can tell he has some nothing to endear himself to anyone and his platform is basically "well I should be mayor..."

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lemmy.world

Brit tabloid? In my news comm????

I'm certainly biased, but why does it feel like England is the birthplace of tabloid trash reporting?

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In terms of its physical size when it was still in print, the newspaper did adopt a compact, tabloid format. This could be the reason people think it's an actual tabloid. Using that format is a great way to get many people to look down on your publication.

As Far as credibility goes, they are left center (so not as unbias as they could be) and they have been known to misreport things... but who hasn't?

Media Bias Fact Check gives them a rating of "Medium Credibility" https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/

That said, compared to News here in Canada; CTV, CBC, and Global all have a better rating than the Independent.

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There is no future that is not radical. Radical change for the better, or total irreversible climate collapse under petty feudalism.

The status quo is fucking us.

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lemmy.today

So not everything is "radical" instead of "socialist" now? Has anyone told Fox to change their dog whistles?

Sort of ironic since Mamdani is an actual Democratic Socialist.

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I hate the country like I hate my galvanized plumbing. It's based on archaic, inaccurate ideas and it's ruining the entire house so I'm replacing it with functional plumbing. Until then, I still need it to carry my piss and shit away.

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After all the bullshit that the conservatives pulled, I am certainly radicalized all right. My love for the country is conditional on it not being shit.

So far, the vast majority of our leaders deserve the bowl, and in dire need of flushing.

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See, Adams may be a corrupt oligarch, but the real criminal in his eyes are people who are rude to him in public for it.

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lemmy.world

The use of the word "nasty" . I mean when do intelligent people say that? When's the last time anyone reading this post said " that salesperson is nasty" or " that price point is nasty"? Five year olds say shit like that ...Trump has dragged down language for the dumber half of the country and now they all have poopy pants. Freaking grow the hell up and get some eloquence in your conversation. /Rant

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lemmy.world

I use it to describe wounds e.g., a nasty cut, or a nasty bruise. It's also an appropriate term for something that is nauseating to see or experience.

But thanks for the insult. Makes you seem super intelligent.

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I'm not attacking your vernacular, by the way.

The voting public has the reading level of a third grader if we are lucky.

Apple doesn't use $10 words in their ads for the same reason.

($10 adjusted for inflation)

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you have no regard for the civility

I don't know under what rock he's lived for the past 10 years, but civility in politics has been quite thoroughly killed by Trump and his lackeys, which now seems to include Adams. He picked the side of no civility, so he's reaping what ue sowed.

Adams accused left-leaning schools and institutions of radicalizing young people, claiming they are being taught to hate their city and country, which is a trend, he says, that must be addressed.

Again, Trump is doing that. He's running on a platform of hating about half of all Americans, and especially coastal cities.

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Maybe Eric can arrange for his supporters to, y'know, sit it out in protest of this flagrant display of anarchy! Yeah, that'll work!

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I'm nasty in that I hate your country, too. which I guess makes me radical

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sounds like he's been around trump too much.

And because of this, I hate Eric Adams. We need to redo the democratic party and replace the current stooges with people who are hungry and are ready to fight. Democratic Socialists need to have a chance to prove themselves. They must win.

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lemmy.world

I keep hearing what these losers have to say but I don't see Mamdami's actual campaign articles showing what he's doing

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Media blackout. Only focus on the response to his ideas so it seems like the wave is against him and his ideas only exist to be opposed. When they spread his ideas people like them. When you only frame them by how much backlash they receive, it seems like they’re crazy

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What’s turkeys mayor concerned about a mayoral race in another country?

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Not an original bone in their body. 2 years ago the right wing would have used similar language against him, being a PoC, and combined with their generic hatred of a liberal city.

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ganryuureply
lemmy.ca

Just say the racist thing you're only implying, for all of us to see.

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ganryuureply
lemmy.ca

So if I understand you correctly, you're saying that him being a Muslim makes it inevitable that he will apply Sharia law (or something equivalent) to NYC?

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Got it, a xenophobic bigot. I won't engage further, you're not worth it. I encourage others to simply block you, as I'm doing right now.

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I think the LGBTQ+ folk can probably go ahead and not do what you're implying they should do: worry.

Mamdani attended a Trans Community Town Hall with Ceyenne Doroshow in May, where he spoke with several activists about his plans for LGBTQ+ New Yorkers.

"New York City must be a refuge for LGBTQIA+ people, but private institutions in our own city have already started capitulating to Trump's assault on trans rights," the Democratic candidate wrote in an Instagram post. "Meanwhile, the cost of living crisis confronting working class people across the city hits the LGBTQIA+ community particularly hard, with higher rates of unemployment and homelessness than the rest of the city."

Mamdani's campaign promises included: The expansion and protection of gender-affirming care across New York City; the commitment to "strengthen and uphold the rights of queer and trans New Yorkers" through sanctuary protections; and the creation of an "Office of LGBTQIA+ Affairs" with the intent to "expand and centralize the services, programs, and support LGBTQIA+ New Yorkers's needs across housing, employment, and more."

Source.

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What is your problem with the lgbt community? This is the 2nd post of yours implying we're stupid and don't know what we're doing. They're both framed the same way too, "the lgbt... group is about to find out what it's like living with muslims." He's Muslim, so what? The Bible has homophobic and transphobic interpretations, explain queer churches. Imo all religion is stupid, and you putting down Islam is just a sign that you're incapable of critical thinking. Do you think queerness only exists in Christian and agnostic countries? Do you think queer people don't know what Muslim religions say about us? Do you think Muslims can't be queer? Step out of your black and white Bizarro world view man, we're in the 21st century.

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