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Hundreds of Alligator Alcatraz detainees drop off the grid after leaving site

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article312042943.html

Around 800 detainees showed no record on ICE’s online database. More than 450 listed no location and only instructed the user to “Call ICE for details” — a vague notation that attorneys said could mean that a detainee is still being processed, in the middle of a transfer between two sites or about to be deported.

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Hmm, I wonder if we could draw a parallel to a similar regime in the past that imprisoned various undesirables in illegal prisons, from which the prisoners never got out and were never seen again...

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lemmy.world

It seems like there are two possibilities: there are hundreds of people who are missing, presumed killed and the bodies are disappeared in the swamp

Or

The ICE program is far less successful than reported and the amount of people doomed to Alligator Alcatraz is inflated.

Given how inept this regime has been and how frustrated Stephen Miller has been over his incapable gestapo, the people likely never existed. Numbers were likely made up to make the bosses feel good.

An important thing to note about the source I used is that the Washington Examiner is a right wing rag that supports Trump. So seeing the news creep into the right wing echo chamber means it can't be ignored. Stevie is big mad others aren't as blindly racist

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Edit: derp, it's fucking ICE that has no records, so my idea makes no sense. Who knows with that fucking circus.

I can think of a third possible option: some are hiding or have fled the country. If I was illegally detained, put into a concentration camp, then released, I'd fucking disappear posthaste.

Not sure of the likelihood, but one can hope.

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M137reply
lemmy.world

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lemmy.world

Borrego’s family were at their wits end trying to find him, Fernandez said. “This is like psychological torture,” she said. “Where’s the humanity?” Finally, after more than a week, they heard from Borrego again. But he wasn’t in California. He was 2,000 miles away from where ICE said he would be. Borrego had abruptly been deported to the Mexican state of Tabasco.

How the actual FUCK did they lose him in transit and somehow send him to fucking TABASCO, MEXICO??? He's from fucking Cuba! These are the dumbest, most incompetent Nazis ever.

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Amberskinreply
europe.pub

Are you sure that is incompetence and not a cruel, criminal system working as intended?

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Dogiedog64reply
lemmy.world

Oh there's definitely cruelty there, absolutely loads of it, but this also screams "We're so incompetent we shouldn't be trusted with anything!!!"

They:

  • built that abortion of a facility in a week
  • bragged about how shitty and awful it was nonstop
  • IMMEDIATELY failed to do even basic logistical work to support the facility in any capacity (definitely cruel, but also incompetent)
  • lost track of 50% of their charges AS SOON AS THEY LEFT FOR ANY REASON
  • failed at providing any documentation on any of their charges as soon as they left, as well
  • somehow lost MULTIPLE PEOPLE MID-TRANSFER, directly before court dates they were scheduled for, only for them to not only NOT ARRIVE where they were supposed to, but to ACTIVELY have been deported by mistake, and to the wrong countries

Say what you will about cruelty, it's all certainly true, but this belies a level of absolute apathy, and even contempt, for any sort of logistical prowess and even basic record keeping. The ACTUAL NAZIS, the Fascist dictators these dipshits seem so keen to want to be seen as, were fucking EXCELLENT at keeping records. These are the laziest, most incompetent, most "schoolyard bully whose dad is drinking buddies with the principal" Fascists anyone has ever SEEN.

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If you keep records, people can be found.

If you deport people to their correct country like Cubans to Cuba, then they might be able to access resources. If you send a Cuban to Mexico then they are a fish out of water. They will start sending Venezuelans and Mexicans to an African country so that they're less likely to show up in there original country get taken advantage of and possibly be enslaved.

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lemmy.world

No, you shouldn't "be concerned", you should be storming the place. I'm about done with this constant passivity. You need to stop waiting for something to happen because the only thing that's going to happen is some new bullshit. You have the numbers to change shit.

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lemmy.world

The vast size of the US is doing a lot of work to keep things from boiling over. there's a reason these loci horridus aren't in New York or California or even Texas, where most people live.

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lemmy.today

wanna bet some of the "alligator" detainees went to some of the for-profit prison in some of the red states.

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Triumphreply
fedia.io

ARE YOU SAYING THEY WERE ALL GENIES???

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It was probably the plan the whole time... Build the place somewhere they knew I couldn't be just so they could claim people went missing during the shutdown.

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We need a thorough investigation into this with either every last one of these people found or an administration official charged with their death

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Yeah we all knew they were going to be sent to concentration camps and treated worse than animals.

Republicans voted to torture immigrants and their families all because they were told they are all criminals and eat your pets.

What an insane time to be alive.

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I saw a drone pic some months back where they were standing in an SOS formation. Time to try another flyover? I'm sure the airspace is controlled though

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You reached the end