‘This Isn’t Normal’: Psychologists Sound Alarm on Trump Dozing Off
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Two psychologists are warning that President Donald Trump’s frequent confusion and mounting physical issues may be pointing to something more troubling than just aging. On their podcast Shrinking Trump, psychologists John Gartner and Harry Segal argued that the 79-year-old president is showing both physical and linguistic symptoms of what they call “early dementia.”
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Not even our first Republican president to get carried through his second term with the onset of dementia.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-president-son
The GOP president was always a mouthpiece anyway.
It's why I try to talk about the Heritage Foundation policies instead of Trump. It's a lot of rich assholes, not old white crazy guys with mob-boss style speaking.
Woodrow Wilson had a stroke and his wife secretly ran things.
To be fair, he was a Democrat. A southern democrat in the uh, southern tradition of being a shitty racist.
I don't care about party affiliation on a matter like this. If someone is mentally unfit, they should be removed. No exceptions.
No. Fucking. Shit.
If it weren't for his army of handlers he'd be answering a hot iron instead of his phone whole trying to rape an AC power outlet while waiting on hold with Epsteins office
They just need to feed him some more uppers with his hamberders
I feel sorry for you that spamming this everywhere appears to be your only form of entertainment. You should try some hobbies or perhaps reach out to a friend or family member to keep you company.
EARLY? He's 79 years old.
Dementia's variable in its rate of progression, partially depending on its underlying cause, and partially due to other factors that aren't understood. So it could be a fairly steady decline, or he could take a sudden turn for the worse. That's especially true if it's vascular dementia, since he closely fits the profile of someone who's been having micro-strokes for a while, so dysfunction in the brain's blood vessels is not unlikely to be happening too. Based on this, my guess is that it'll be more a cascading crash-and-burn than slow rot for Pig Boy.
Yeah, he’s already seven years past the average lifespan here in the US.
For plebs, yes. The life expectancy for the rich is something absurd like 10 years longer. But only in the U.S., of course.
Except he eats like the poor.
Early as in the stage/symptoms, not "early on-set".
OK but he's been showing symptoms for years.
Listen to interviews of him in the 80s, 2000s, and 2016. His vocabulary and coherence had dropped significantly before his first term. It hasn't gotten better.
He was mentally unfit long before signs of aging and dementia started appearing. His supporter base will remain in denial about it for as long as he has a pulse.
I'm betting on longer. They'll worship him for another 100 years.
Reagan 2.0, now with more stupid and twice the spite!
you're optimistic !
Oh, I dare say he's been demented for quite some time now. It all started when he was regrettably born, and then it went downhill from there.
Add murder to the list. Having Epstein killed in his cell is likely, but is obviously impossible to nail down at this point.
He has however bragged about bombing those Venezuelan fishermen on his order.
Maybe a small, round projectile will give us a glimpse of those abnormalities at the same time as his death. A girl can dream!
Good luck finding it.
And this will matter fuck all.
... and Erdogan has cancer, Putin is seriously ill and the Russian economy is about to collapse any day now ...
Instead of wishful thinking, protest, resist, and challenge authoritarianism in every way possible.
"Early" ?!?!?
Yeah.... As someone who has a lot of geriatric patients, even elderly people in good health can regularly doze off during certain parts of the day. Not sure how anyone could claim any cognitive decline at his age and weight could be considered early onset.
Tbh he is doing fairly well for his weight at that age, meaning he's still alive. Which is baseline better than most 80 year old overweight and inactive men.
Imo I think he had a little stroke when he went up to Alaska to meet Putin. I think that's why all his staff looked scared as shit during that trip, and why he's been less active and traveling less since then. Long plane rides are pretty bad for people with peripheral edema, and clotting issues. Also explains the bruising on his hands, they got that dude stuffed to the gills with blood thinners.
I think it's the good old : "A cheeseburger a day keeps the doctor away"
Keep those doctors away, except the ones RFKJ sends.
Haha I can find some witch doctors as well,
The shock of being fisted probably triggered it.
This was my reaction.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure they're basing 100% of their analysis on his public appearances, which is likely when he's at his best. He's either following a script or he's been coached on what to say immediately prior to going in front of a camera.
In any case, America is cooked. He's not going to step down, and there's still a nontrivial amount of support for him to be installed as grand pubah.
The insane MAGA cult is Trump; they're inseparable. After he dies, Trump's gonna be pickled and put on display like Lenin on the National Mall. They can't let him go.
That's optimistic, I expect them to prop him up and have him continue being their leader well after he starts to decay, weekend at Bernie's style.
DJT as the Emperor of Mankind is nightmare I care not to ponder.
Trump should be forced to do what he wanted Biden to do. Where's all those cognitive tests now? What happened to all the concern about elderly presidents in the last 3 years? It was a #1 crisis when Biden was president and every yawn in public was dissected, but now that Trump is dozily walking around, suddenly age doesn't matter.
Zero, but a few more won't hurt.
Yeah, where are all the Enlightened Centrists now?
hypocrisy is a defining characteristic of the modern right. That's why discourse and argument with them has become pointless. Nothing they say can be trusted to be in good faith.
Dude’s fallen asleep on duty several times before. Why the sudden debate?
He's not even necessarily doing it because he's old. He just doesn't care. His handlers will tell him what to sign anyway. Why would he want to waste time listening to people talk? There's not as much power in the presidency as he had hoped for. He can't even get alone in a room with small children anymore now that the secret service is always present. All he's really got left to live for is waiting for whenever he can give more orders to kill brown people.
You guys realize the GOP already has a handle on this kind of political candidate right?
This is the third dementia riddled presidential term they've had.
I know Reagan was one, who was the other? Are you counting trump's first term or somebody else?
Dubbya proportedly abdicated a ton of responsibility.
With the Patriot Act in full effect, we really have no idea what was going on.
I don't think that was dementia. Profoundly stupid, yes, but that's different.
What if trump is just the monkeys paw fulfillment of "I wish George Bush weren't the dumbest fucking president in American history"?
Dubya wasn't stupid. He wasn't unusually intelligent, but not stupid either. He played the good ol' boy to keep the rubes on his side, but had excellent recall of people he'd met years before while campaigning, and of conversations he'd had with them. And he could usually keep up with briefings without requiring them to be reduced to Garfield levels of imbecility. Dubya also inherited his father's dyslexia, and his tendency to mangle spoken language.
Trump, on the other hand, has always been dumb as a bag of hammers, and his dementia-induced confabulation is obviously worsening.
purportedly
Early? Where have they been for the last several years?
That’s a strange way of spelling last several decades
Is it just me or does anyone else remember when everyone and their mother was in an outrage over Bidens age? Did that really happen or am I just dreaming?
Biden was also the worst human to ever exist in the history of the world, according to MAGA.
A bumbling idiot and an evil genius at the same time apparently.
That was different
/S
Guess it’s like the whole kids getting shot versus a cunt of a podcaster getting shot thing.
Just fucking stroke out already
Seems pretty clear he's been having TIAs, which greatly increase the odds of a CVA!
Champaign stocks are going to go through the roof. Get in early.
But only like halfway. Continue on for a while as a drooling imbecile(lol), preferably all on camera
Well, technically, there's a second time
Expect plans to accelerate. They need to get to the point where they don't need Trump, asap.
They can't only one could have successfully taken over Maga without issue was just gun down. Why they are so mad. Vance, Miller, hell no one that could rain in Maga and keep up the momentum that Trump spurred. If Trump dies before the term the movement won't die but it will splinter.
You also watch as all the Republicans falling in line for Trump would suddenly pivot and pretend they were against the Trump administration from the beginning.
So lets hope Trump dies asap.
Even though I think they are preparing for that too. They are probably at this moment building an AI platform to make Trump look alive until they are at the point they don't need him. So if suddenly Trump stops public appearances altogether and only way we hear from him is prerecorded videos and tweets then you will know he is dead.
I have no doubt they are willing to weekend at Bernies Trump to keep MAGA in line.
Even if it's not as president, Trump as an icon, mascot and priest is very possible. Not like his family, who would control his estate and likeness, won't use his likeness to their advantage after he's dead.
Sure but have you seen his sons? Those two twats couldn't wraggle the Trump base. They probably follow in his footsteps and bankrupt the Trump brand within a year.
Apparently you've forgotten he has 3 sons, and we don't know much about Barron, or how compotent or incompetent he is. I have a feeling he's been getting coaching for him to take over his father's political legacy.
He came from Trump sure he just fucking dumb. But yeah he might be the true anticrist no telling what they are doing with him.
They do seem to keep in out of the spot light. Either he brain damaged and they don't want us to know. Or they are grooming him for something bigger and they don't want us to know.
Regardless Trump dies his other two brothers will probably fight him for the power and the tear it apart with infighting. I am just trying to be hopeful.
Nah, they'll lose ownership of it and then become targets of their own father after his death if they don't do what they're told. I can only imagine the deeply ingrained behaviors they could trigger even when they know it's not really him.
When he croaks, they will make him a religious figure, and things will get really weird.
That plan was already in effect for when he lost the 2024 election, but then their election fraud strategies worked, and he got in office, and the religious strategy was shelved. If he leaves office, or does, however, it could easily be revived.
Nothing about our wanna-be third-world style dictatorship is normal.
It wasn't normal when he was awake
He sure as shit won't be getting any better. But it won't matter. A big part of his usefulness is distracting us from what the real fascists are doing in the background. Should Vance, for some reason, have to take over, he'll serve a similar function.
They’ve only got a couple more goal posts to reach before the president is an unnecessary road block for them, as soon as they get there a dead president is going to be a great reason to declare martial law. Regardless of how he goes it’ll be blamed on the left and the boots will roll out.
What do psychologists have to do with this?
Good point. They are not qualified. Psychology is not medicine, and it certainly is not science.
I was waiting for a plumber's opinion on an old man falling asleep.
He's just working Dreamotely.
Trump is the same age Biden was in 2021.
Just sayin'.
Keep tossing leaves in the pool, Nancy.
Oh yes... This is what we need the "alarms" for... Sleeping...
He hasn't been normal at any time of his life
This is what happens after you become a liability and then have a private meeting with Putin where you drink or eat anything in a 10 mile radius.
He looks so much less evil when he's asleep. Still super evil, just less.
I never want to see that
I hate trump and all, but Tbf that’s the same face my dad makes when he’s falling asleep during a movie, it’s just being old
Does your dad have control of nukes?
Only on taco night
It's totally normal, dumbass. He's an old person and we only have old people for senior political leaders, apparently
the daily beast trying to rake up more trump spam has me nodding off
But you won't believe who SLAMS him next!
Hopefully soon Donny has one of those long naps, in the ground, in a box, under a golf course.
On the other hand, none of this is true and the "psychologists" are just bad guessers. Any real news out there or just made up scenarios?
If medical professionals are giving their expert advice to the Grim Reaper, is Las Vegas placing bets as to where he will eventually kick the bucket? In the golf cart, teeing off, during a meeting, etc...
Unless he gets shot first, he's dying peacefully in his sleep within the next 3 years, never seeing due consequences for his many atrocities. Maybe there's a slight chance he'll fall down the stairs or have a very public stroke, and holy shit I hope not because wild conspiracy theories about a Havana syndrome type woke commie laser beam assassination would spread like trump's syphilis.
I'm thinking heart failure in office, but I bet he goes through 2 or 3 donor hearts before he dies faster than they can get a new one in him.
Why are psychologists opining on a neurological disorder? Did they think they went to med school?
Daily Beast, stop publishing garbage.
Neuropsychologists have the ability to diagnose dementia in all states in America. They shouldn't be doing it without a full evaluation.
Also the Goldwater rule
So like Biden in 2020. But
no oneDemocrats said an thing about it.You seem to have forgotten all the otherworldly screeching of "DEMENTIA!" from the Republicans any time Biden so much as stuttered. I mean, a guy managed to stretch it all out into a whole ass book.
Biden age 82 is sharper than Trump has ever been for the last 15+ years. Get the blinders off, bud
and the Dems said, "Nothing to see here.". They lied about all though out Biden's time as president. Hell, they push him into running in 2024. Everyone with eyes can see he's not well. Safe bet that's why they lost in 2024. If they ran someone else from the start. The Dems had better odds of winning. But you're right, I'm the one with blinders on. /s
You mean all the people screaming about it and Trump himself calling him “sleepy joe” and all the progressives who begrudgingly voted for him while always prefacing it with “he’s not really fit for it and I don’t like him but literally there are no other options”? Those “no ones”?
Yea, buddy, if you had plugged your ears and looked away I’m sure it’s remarkably easy to pretend like no one was saying anything.