Snoop Dogg Admits He's “Scared” to Go to Movies Because of LGTBQ+ Representation
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Sounds like a "You" problem, Snoop.
Remember when snoop was on trial for murder in the 90s? Or his Trump crytpo party? Whiney uncle Tom.
This is the part that gets me. Its really not that complicated.
If a kid is old enough to ask this then you can tell them "oh a doctor can make you pregnant with an operation".
forreal, people have such low opinion of what kids can understand (because they think kids have all their own same biases automatically)
My partner teaches preschool, sometimes the kids ask her if she's a boy. She says she used to be but she's a girl now, the kids say "ohhh" and immediately move on. It only ever gets weird and confusing for the kids when the parents feel the need to argue that point.
As if snoop is struggling for comfortable seating and a big ass screen...
he sounds like a 55 year old white woman. putting his head in the sand, cause that sure gonna make everything go away that he doesnt agree with.
just seen his new video clip yesterday, and its 100% ai generated. looks like he is rather selective about the new world.
If you have to explain lesbians to your kid you've already failed. Adults are free to love other adults. How's this so fucking complicated???
My parents had to explain "lesbians" to me because I didn't know the word
The concept of women living each other was just implicit
Edit: love the single downvote from some bigot that wandered in here. Hey, feel free to comment, champ!
It's even more pathetic because the context was apparently Lightyear, where a lesbian couple has a kid, and the typical MAGA boomer reaction: "How do I explain that!?" Uh, people adopt, Snoop. Like, that's always been a thing...
Besides snoop being dumb, surrogacy is a thing.
The fact is, its like a 2 minute convo where you just lay out the facts. Its only difficult if youre trying to indoctrinate your children or you hate talking to them.
Also, it's a sci-fi movie that takes place in the future, so cloning is on the table.
Seriously, there's so many approaches to this.
Miss me with that anti-gay shit
~ Morgan Freeman
Also aplies to xenophobia.
I dunno, I've seen people who seem scared by the existence of gay people
hydrophobia isn't fear of water. words do not decompose that way.
Yes, it is.
Classically exhibited as a symptom of rabies, which is probably what you’re thinking.
Yes, they do.
Oh, jesus christ. 98% of the time, "hydrophobia" does not refer to fear of water.
Oh, jesus aitch fucking christ. No, they do not. You cannot divine the meaning of a word you've never seen before by breaking it down into sub-word units of meaning. That's just not how the English language works. You can get some hints, but you cannot definitively know what a word means, and darn you for making me say something that basic and obvious out loud.
Words used in medical terminology (Like many areas of science) were made using specific latin roots for a reason you numpty, and the reason why is so the definition is clear and set, and there won't be some idiot insisting a word means something it doesn't.
Take hypoglycemia for example. Hypo: Low Glyc: Sugar -emia: In blood.
Just try to divine what hypoglycemia could POSSIBLY mean given that information. It's a bit more than a fucking hint.
Dermatitis? Derma: Skin -itis: Inflammation. Sweet JESUS what ever could dermatitis mean?!?!?
Next you're going to tell me pericarditis, containing the roots Peri (Around) Card (Heart, Cardio) -itis (inflammation) means inflammation around the heart! Insanity!
So what ever in WORLD could a medical condition named HYDROPHOBIA ever mean?
Well you are both assholes for being so onbnoxious to eaxh other but both have valid points. You missed addressing phobia upstairs, which all contradict you.
Hydrophobia usually refers to a material which repels water.
Username checks out.
Perhaps true. What would you call somebody who was afraid of water, though?
You absolutely can for many, many words.
Not all words, of course. And some words, like hydrophobic, gain additional meanings over time.
Sure, but this is a new standard that you seem have come up with in your rage.
What is the definition of hydrophobia?
He's probably referring to hydrophobicity in chemicals. Where the molecule is repelled by water. It's often called hydrophobia as well.
It's a bad example for a bad argument.
Yeah I guess this is more likely than rabies, though rabies is also referred to as hydrophobia.
I’ve heard of materials being referred to as “hydrophobic” but never heard the discussion around that property as “hydrophobia.”
Yes.
It's a great example, what do you mean?
They are literally pushing back water with their bonds and are fully phobic of it.
It's not afraid though.
Ok, boomer. Also: sad old man. I bet he has no problem explaining why he was a murder suspect? Or why he used more weed than god intended?
I mean I'm not going to throw shade at pot smokers but if you can explain to your niece why your jacket smells funny, you can explain why that other kid has two moms.
Just like the “giving up smoke” thing, he’s being paid to say this.
By whom?
Who knows? But look all around. There are so many signs that they want to ‘do away with the gays.’ In Florida, they are painting over the rainbow crosswalks for zero reason repeatedly deploying the state DOT to fight them. Then there’s this. And there’s talk of making gay marriages invalid.
I meant the smoking thing, my bad
It was a brand deal with Solo “Smokeless” Stove (which he didn’t disclose until after it had made headlines) https://www.solostove.com/e-ad/p/the-snoop-stove-bonfire-2.0
Tsss and here I was actually thinking he quit smoking... Sigh
lmao I think they pulled the product off the shelf...?
It’s easier to explain how a lesbian couple can give birth to a baby than it is to explain how an invisible man in the sky made someone pregnant 2000 years ago, but it didn’t stop snoop from becoming a born again Christian.
Actually, it's easy to explain religion when you realize there is no proof required. Only
blind obediencefaith.Actually, that's not a necessary feature of religion. Neither are gods. You have religious needs, whether you understand what that means or not.
wow, everything I thought I knew about snoop has been wrong
I never would have thought ole Snoop Would be such a snowflake
Typical old man s***. Zero ability to self reflect.
Here's an interesting excerpt from an intervention he was given by Dionne Warwick.
Self-proclaimed badass and gangsta is scared from a lesbian couple? This is beyond humiliating.
Being uncomfortable around LGBT I can understand. It's dumb, you're dumb, you're stupid, but I somewhat understand. You've been brainwashed for decades and need a minute to adjust... I guess?
But scared?
And of all beings, snoop Dogg? Wasn't he pretending to be a bad ass gangsta rapper?
Afraid?
Afraid of two people holding hands?
Afraid of seeing a woman who might have some manly facial features?
Afraid of generally just really nice people living their lives?
Afraid of two (or holy hells, maybe... Even three!??) people that just love each other and live together in the same home and maybe like to do things together in the privacy of their own home that you maybe would not do?
AFRAID OF WHAT, YOU SHIZZLE FUCK?
He isn't afraid of gay people.
He is afraid of having to have the conversation with his grandkid about gay people having a baby due to the content of a kid's movie.
Sort of like how a grandparent would be uncomfortable discussing procreation with their grandkid. Shit, parents are uncomfortable discussing that with their own kids and that is a far easier and more straightforward thing than discussing sperm donors.
He is scared that a kid's movie will inspire questions that he is uncomfortable answering as a grandparent.
What will he do when his grandkids learn about his history and the incarceration and accusations, I'd be afraid of that more if I were him
Why is the assumption by these people that there is a sexual component required in the explanation? Age appropriate explanations are easy.
"Know how some families have one mommy and one daddy? Some families have two mommies or two daddies instead."
If the kids ask about the actual mechanics of procreation they are old enough to hear something like:
"Some couples adopt or they find someone to have a baby with who helps them make a family."
Was there any need to mention surrogacy or donors? No. Kids don't need to oversexualize queer people. Adults don't need to over sexualize queer people! When people are sheltered from our existence until they are in their early teens they tend to think of gay couples as explicitly just sexual relationships rather than romantic or family building ones that are as dynamic as straight relationships because they were introduced to them as a sexual mechanics first kind of way. It's dehumanizing.
Did boss baby raise fears in parents that they might have to explain procreation? If no, then two mothers shouldn't.
And just telling a kid that every constellation of parents are possible, it's just that some matchups are more common than others doesn't seem like daunting task.
I remember when old people were boycotting Frozen because it didn't have the traditional "boy saves the girl" narrative. They thought it would inspire uncomfortable questions from their grandkids.
Fuck people who think like this.
I don't think kids can even procounce or comprehend the words 'artificial insemination'.
Here's a phrase that every child can understand, "science made it possible".
Nah he’s just rich enough to be bigoted.
Crazy and sad considering the persona that made him rich.
Reminds me of when Dave Chappelle called his audience poor for booing Musk. Money and the Hollywood bubble changes people. There's probably a few that can survive, but they need to always be defensive.
Sex is frightening. Don't pretend you've never gotten sweaty palms, or chickened out when it came to the clutch.
Yeah, the first time
If you're a scared motherfucker, go to church, Snoop.
He got stripped of all cred the day he performed at Fat Loser Weaker Hitler's inauguration.
This isn't even celebrity news at this point.
Missed that. JFC.
Sir, we all have had to sit awkwardly next to our parents when hetero sexy times happened during movies, the concept of lesbians existing is nothing compared to that.
Generally not kids movies, possibly for this same reason. It raises questions; questions with clear and easy answers but that one may not plan on answering on a light evening out. Not saying it is good reasoning.
New evangelical conservative hero now: "lesbians are scary." New evangelical conservative hero 20 years ago: "Guess who's back in the motherfucking house/With a fat dick for your motherfucking mouth."
Praise Jesus.
*30 years ago
When a celebrity hits a certain age can we just assume their brain is guacamole and not listen to them, ever.
We shouldn't really let celebrities ever be our moral compass anyway.
Or just not care what they think no matter the age? Play the clown, collect your millions and shut the fuck up.
No matter what? What if I happen to agree with one?
1960s Conservative White Man Admits He's "Scared" to Go to Movies Because of Black Representation
"Papa, how did those people vote? They black!"
"1960s Conservative White Man then insinuated that non-slave black characters may not be appropriate in children's movies."
Aw fuck. Why, man? Just why?
To those that don't know, Snoop Dogg has been making a lot of material for kids lately. He has a YouTube channel (called "Doggyland") designed for preschoolers. That means he actually does have an audience these days, even if they're far too young for Lemmy.
I used to think, "Aw cute, becoming a granddad has inspired him to create educational videos. He even gets to explore his new Bow Wizzle fursona!" (I mean.)
But this, this takes back all the joy. I wouldn't be surprised if some parents who hear about this decide to unsubscribe and/or block his channel.
Disappointing but he won't be the last rapper who expresses conservative views. Rap as a genre tends towards having materialistic and conservative lyrics so maybe we shouldn't be surprised.
It’s mixed. There’s the two major sides of that coin that I would split the style into and one is hyper materialistic and sexualized while the other is full of political commentary and sometimes even talks about mental health problems among other things. Like, while I’m sure you can find examples of both from any one artist there’s for sure a stark difference between Snoop here and A Tribe Called Quest.
Meanwhile Eminem:
But especially Kim
Even ATCQ have the unfortunate Georgie Porgie in their back catalogue
Well said.
Imagine being s grown ass man who's seen some shit, but the visuals of two other men doing romantic things is "scary" to you. What a little pussy Snoop is.
Didn't he do a porn video?
He was literally a pimp for a few years - after getting rich an famous - so can’t argue he’s a victim of circumstances.
So, he’s has to explain something to a child? Sounds like a nightmare. These people would take away your rights because they don’t want to deal with reality.
Snoop is a shitty little bitch.
Specifically he said he wasn’t sure how to explain to his grandson how two lesbians gave birth to a child. I guess “Science can do some really interesting and unexpected things” was too hard to grasp for his grandson?
That's "Gangsta" behaviour.
"Well, sometimes two women fall in love with each other, and that's okay. Now eat your popcorn."
Jesus Christ, is that so hard, you fragile dickweed?
Snoop has always been a jerk.
Yeah, fuck Snoop. Snitch ass bitch. Only thing protecting him is that money.
edit: oh hi Snoop
Snoop DoggCalvin Broadus, fixed it for you.Calvin "I look like an old black lady & I kick it with an old white lady" Broadus
Noone pointing out that this story is bullshit? If the kid knows how a baby was made, and understands enough that biologically speaking that it would be "impossible". The kid did not fucking ask that.
As much as I liked snoop as a kid we all knew that death row was full of shitty people who would do anything to get ahead. Suge knight would have his goons violently "handle" buisness afairs, and many people believe that he had Tupac killed. Snoop and Suge later "squashed the beef". Which is insane considering the allegations. He's scared to go to the movies, but will pal around with potential murderers? Okay Snoop.
At this point we should all view snoop as a made up character. Hes in so many good works of art gorillaz, trailer park boys, the boondocks and so on. All of which's creators would hate what hes said here and go against the messages of the works of media hes helped produce. Hes desperately trying to stay relevent, I think this is just another way of keeping his name in the loop. Pathetic.
At 5 I knew two parents were involved in getting someone pregnant. I understood in very general terms the biology involved. I absolutely would have asked this question. That being said I also expect my dad, a doctor who already explained pregnancy to me, would have just explained IVF.
Okay valid. but my point was that children arent stupid. I believe you as that 5 year old would have assumed adoption. I actually had this experience as a child, I knew a kid with two moms and from what i remember noone asked her how she was made. Questions were generally about whos the more masculine or feminine, or why they picked eachother and not just found husbands.
Maybe im way off base, and if i am i apologize. I just have to assume this story was manufactured to stir up contraversy. It reeks of the classic look what my kid wrote/drew to make some political point "even a kid understands this, see?".
I think it was more of a “Why did the studio put us in a position where we would be asked this?” situation. Im not a fan of Snoop but listening to the actual discussion made it seem less homophobic and more irritated at having to deal.
obviously there is a time and place for these conversations, a theater is not the place. but on the otherhand he litterally says he told the kid to shush and eat popcorn. Whereas your dad or my mom would have have explained on the spot. The only excuse I can see is that its his grandson and maybe he isnt sure how his parents would react to him teaching him this stuff. but to me Its a serious enough topic that it should be explained at least later by them. Even if he isnt homophobic dancing around the topic certainly is.
Childrens media often covers serious topics like, death, mental health, divorce, bullying, diversity, disabilities to name a few. Its litterally designed to make kids ask questions like this. I dont think hed Ignore any questions on these topics. Infact theres probably 100s of examples he could have used when his own kids or grandkids asked heavy questions. Why did this stick out in his mind? The interviewers first example of this was anxiety, which is a much more reasonable approach to this conversation of "should we be putting this stuff in kids media?"
Also I just watched the clip from buzz lightyear for additional context. and my previous statement assuming adoption was not an option because it depicts the pregnancy and raising of the child. So I was off quite off base there.
Edit: itallics
I challenge you to find a dozen instances of gay parents giving birth to a child without any added explanation. Yes there are hundreds of instances of LGBT+ relationships in kids media but there probably aren't many claiming two women can on their own produce a child.
All this being said IVF explains everything. Kids know babies are in bellies so it's just a different shot that some mommies get. When my buddy's parents had their first biological child at 7 his mom said she got IVF and that's how she explained it.
Im confused. My point was that the purpose of the scene was exactly to get the child to ask the parent about a heavy topic ( lesbian mothers and IVF). This could very well be the first movie to represent this, im not sure why thats relavent. I would think its unhealthy for a kid to go about modern life without being at least a mild understanding of alternate lifestyles. Ignorance classically promotes bigotry, fear, shame.
Nowhere in the scene or interview does it make any claims that this is physically possible without outside intervention. Assuming snoop is living under a rock and doesnt know about IVF. It would still be important for him to learn and look it up for his own intrests and the intrest of the kid who is asking.
Answers:
1 one of them might be more feminine, maybe neither?
2 they didn't find husbands because they found eachother and fell in love and wanted to be together
I mean, I will admit this was very scawy to answer, I almost went into hiding together with Snoop for my safety!
Don't you know children will band together, get guns, and torture murder your entire family of you accidentally give the wrong answer about these things?
Snoop sucks as an old man.
So he's bitchmade after all huh?
Failing to explain concepts to children indicates more that you don't understand than that they won't understand.
Putting the phobia in homophobia
That's the least gangsta shit I've ever heard. Grow a pair, snowflakes.
That doesn't really sound all that damning. I don't remember it being explained in the movie either.
One thing I think, and I'm not saying that you think otherwise, is that movies are way better when they don't explain everything. In real life, we don't always get explanations, and there's stuff going on all the time that we have no explanation for.
So, the lack of explanation in a movie, as long as it's not distracting, actually adds to the feeling of authenticity, in my opinion. Movies where everything is explained and nothing is hidden about the characters... it just makes everything feel flat and childish.
Yeah, that's true for sure. And Snoop could have certainly answered the question better; there's nothing wrong with saying you don't know. I just think it's a stretch to paint him as homophobic over this. (If there's a history of him being homophobic, I don't know if, and I didn't notice it in the article.)
I agree with you. I don't think this is him being homophobic, I think this is him being bad with kids.
Don't forget, he appeared in Bruno singing about how it's ok to be gay.
So, first... didn't Lightyear go straight to Disney+? Like 3 years ago? How is that a reason to be scared of theaters now?
Second - Snoop, it's not hard.
"Families are bigger than that. Sometimes bio mom or bio dad isn't in the picture and you get two moms, two dads, or mom or dad by themselves. The only important thing is love."
At least in the US, it had a theatrical run before going to Disney+.
Hard to remember with the stupid time compression!
They aren’t big on love or kindness, so…
I'll just leave this here.
Content of the link:
Disappointing when someone you thought was a tolerant person turn out to be a bigot.
But instead of a link people need to click with no idea what it leads to, you should include the title or something describing what it's about.
I normally never click such links as you made. I could also be tempted to downvote such a post for wasting my time.
Blind? It's not hard to mouse over it and see it goes to NPR.
How do you "mouse over" on your phone?
Also you could just use the original link text, and write "I'll just leave this here:" above it.
That way you can read the link WITHOUT having to mouse over.
Easier both for you and everybody else.
Like this
OK, thanks, but I guess that like me, not everybody knows that.
Also instead of having to mouse over, it's obviously easier not having to.
Skill issue
I'd say you clearly have your own "issues".
Woah. Snoop is closeted? I guess I shouldn't be too surprised.
More like Snoop is full on Maga.
He performed for the Trump Inauguration crypto party.
Coulda said “they probably adopted” and left it at that.
Instead you chose this “less complicated” route…
What a little bitch.
What a fucking pussy
Fuck off, lap doggy dog; ya little bitch.
Uh oh. Here comes the wahmbulance
Snoop Dogg had never been entirely comfortable with controversial content being in media that kids might consume.
Snoop no longer Dogg. Snoop is a Pussy(cat) of the Oreo variety. Straight outta Common sense.
I mean.. this isn't surprising at all
His argument is dumb. Just say, “girls can marry girls.”
I am of the opinion though that sometimes lgbtq+ and racial themes are too forced in media and feels like it’s just pandering or trying to make a point that doesn’t fit smoothly with the story. Like, okay there are two gay people in the story. We don’t need a lesson about civil rights every time. Just normalize it.
If something feels forced then simply dont consume it. People are bitching about the most inert shit on the planet. If they cant write a character that is gay without having a "civil rights lesson" then its just shitty writing. These themes have been explored for years In well written media. The problem is that media litteracy is so low that we are pandering the media to the lowest common denomintator. No offense but, If that isnt obvious... you might be part of the problem.
Your attempt to twist what I said into some attack on me is part of the problem. There’s no doubt that there are times during our recent history where media bandwagons onto civil rights movements just to pander to the audience. That’s annoying and is actually part of the problem. I’m sure you can understand that.
Think about businesses using pride month for profit. Some thing.
This doesn’t mean don’t put LGBTQ+ themes in media. Relax.
Again, If it annoys you ignore it. My previous statement was a conditional. IF you think this way THEN yes Im calling you stupid. There is so much classic and alternative media that have not been taken over by corporations. Complaining that the for profit companies are making profitable buisness decisions... what else is new? Are you such a slave to the corps that you cant find anything else to read, watch or play?
I never said that you are opposed to progressive media, im just calling you media illiterate. Seeing as you misinterpreted my entire comment... I wasnt far off.
That’s such a huge jump. Because I’m bothered by something I’m media illiterate? You wanna have a point so bad. It’s yours. Live it up.
"media litteracy" is becoming a problem and popular media is following the trend. They appeal to the uneducated, the media itself is calling you too stupid to read between the lines. There have always been gay characters in media, and If they wrote a better character youd know they were gay without It being so in your face about it. So yes its annoying. Youd hate a villian saying "Im the bad guy" all the same. which is the problem. They are litterally doing that not just with lgbtq stuff
my original comment was only meant to offend you IF you cant see the flaw in your reasoning, and want to continue being upset about gay and diverse shit in media.
If youre still lost, Idk man, I tried. I did call you stupid though Ill apologize for that, sincerely.
Edit: added what is in Itallics
Get to the point and smoke another joint, dawg.
Oh fuck. I saw this and assumed he must be creeping up into his 70s or something. Nope. He's only got a few years on me. Well, a few years, and a significant amount of weed.
Didn't Snoop Dogg pretend to be a non-homophobe in the Brüno movie?
You WERE relevant Snoop. Now you're a has been. Do everyone a favor and take your mountains of cash and fuck off.
what a bag of slimy cocks
Many people feel this way, the internet finds it hard to believe.
We believe it plenty. Most of us are just done tolerating, or engaging with, people who still feel that way.
I could say the same about “X” I don’t agree with as well.
Somebody has fantasies if getting bent over...
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Melted into a sad little scared jello.
Edit: Jello quivers more than pudding.
This comment section is wild, people are sick of being forced to pander to the alphabet soup cult, Snoop is right.
people exist
What a radical cult.
Alphabet soup cults people are actually sick of: GOP, MAGA.
...wing.
"people"... You spelled "scum excuses of human waste"* wrong...
I'm sorry, who is being forced into doing anything here, again?
No answer, just downvotes. Typical smoothbrained homophobe reaction.