FFmpeg moves to Forgejo
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/46522263
https://code.ffmpeg.org/FFmpeg/FFmpegOpen linkView original on lemmy.zip666
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I guess I'm out of the loop: why do ppl hate forgejo?
Yeah, this is news to me. I think Codeberg runs on Forgejo, and just the other day people were singing its praises when GitHub became part of Microsoft's AI team. This feels like a sudden shift.
Another git repository that is not hosted on itself?
Seems like a weird choice.
That's like the CEO from Microsoft going on stage with a MacBook.
Codeberg is a service. Forgejo is a platform.
It's more like how a warehouse company doesn't build its own forklifts.
Wasnt aware of that. I believed they were an alternative to gitea, github, forgejo, sourceforge
Codeberg is a forgejo installation. lemmy.dbzer0.com isn't lemmy itself
Forgejo is developped on Codeberg, which runs on Forgejo
Codeberg is the "demo" Forgejo instance is where they develop the software (Forgejo)
Forgejo is a fork of Gitea which is pretty well known. They forked out of fear because Gitea got bought and is now a for-profit iirc
Probably just the weird name. It makes it feel like someone’s weekend personal project.
I use it to self-host my own code and it works great, I’m totally moved off GitHub now.
I don't even know how to pronounce it. Forge Joe? For Gay Ho?
For-j-o
https://forgejo.org/static/forgejo.mp4
Any product name that needs a voice file to explain itself is a bad name 🤦 what were they thinking?
source
Rijndael is pronounced AES.
I have some bad new for you about Linux...
I hadn't heard that before, but that is exactly how I also pronounce it 😍
Let me guess: You think everyone needs to speak english?
Imagine seething at words in a language you don't speak because you don't speak it
Your assumptions betray you. I speak 4 languages fluently/natively and two-three more poorly. English is not my native language.
This is not about language, but about marketing. Thank you.
You speak 4 languages, but not Esperanto?
"i, in all of my infinite wisdom and knowledge, knower of four languages, cant pronounce word therefore bad marketing" 😭
seriously why do you care so much about the marketing ability of a foss tool? they arent selling it?
Seems to me that you are the seething one, not me. Taking a walk might improve your mood.
We can name things Forge in English, but not in a different language without your criticism?
I wouldn't call that "seething", the project is targeting an English speaking audience (English is the source, other languages are translation targets), effectively no one is a native speaker of Esperanto, and it's usage is small enough that someone could quite possibly never encounter the language.
Bad project names are common enough in programming and open source, and complained about, that I wouldn't jump right to xenophobia as the reason someone might complain that a project picked a name knowing it would be difficult to pronounce.
They can name it whatever they want, but getting that angry that someone didn't recognize a word in an anglisiced spelling of a word from a niche language is uncalled for.
Personally uaong forgejo myself and it has been smooth sailing for ages! This is the first time ive ever seen people taking a stance against it, though the ones in the comments sidnt seem to have a good argument.
They probably don't. If you see a sudden FUD, it could be astroturfing.
I've never seen anyone hate on forgejo.
Why do you think prople hate Forgejo?
I hadn't heard of Forgejo, although I realize now that I have seen repositories using it before. I think it's cool that they even have statically linked binaries of it but it's a bit concerning that like an entire web server is built in because what if there's vulnerabilities? I guess if you regularly stayed up to date it's not too bad then.
Edit: Oh, sounds like it's a fork of Gitea which I have heard of before, interesting.
i mean, the web server in question is the Go standard library. if there is a vuln in there we have bigger problems, considering it's also used by the docker binary.
Interesting. Wonder why they forked gitea
Because the Codeberg folk didn’t like the idea of relying on a product made by a for profit company. https://blog.codeberg.org/codeberg-launches-forgejo.html
Looks like it's time to switch.
Note that it has built-in migration of repos along with all the associated stuff. One at a time, but it works well.
I still find the name weird. Let's do something fun here; Comment what YOU think ForgeJo should be called instead
YoForge
Read like "Science, bitch!"
Forge
NeoForge
Fabric
Quilt
On one hand, I kind of agree, on another that is at least somewhat a generic term for a gitlab/gitea/github/sourceforce/forgejo/etc, so it might be harder to search.
yeah, it should be more unique….
how about “forgey mcforgerton”?
Geordi LaForge
Laforge is an awesome name, especially for a French company.
For Joe
For Gay Joe
Both are fine by me
FoSho! They were so close!
I pronounced it the Spanish way in my head.
I like Esperanto, should stay imo
ForMe
Is forgejo federated yet?
Not yet They are working on it You can keep an eye on the development through monthly reports https://forgejo.org/tag/report/
They made a comment on one of their recent blog posts that dealing with the ai onslaught on codeberg has delayed work on federation.
Nice, hope they set up their own branding on their instance at some point
I apparently got blocked by their anti bot system on mobile
I'd have a read but I'm in the UK....
I'm in the UK and was fine for me. Have you left your porn vpn on?
lemmy.zip is blocked in the UK
We dont actually block VPNs, but we do block ASNs where we get abuse traffic. Just so happens that Proton VPNs servers in France are on that ASN.
I get that, this is more an issue I guess with instances that were federated and now are not in the UK. It isn't handled that gracefully - but hey not my issue
My response wasn't regarding the geoblock, but to the above poster saying we block VPNs (which isn't true)
But just so you're aware, we dont geoblock federation traffic and all our posts, comments etc are federated without issue.
The only thing geoblocked is the UIs, so UK visitors can't access the UI.
If your client tries to direct you to lemmy.zip rather than the crossposted article, then that client isn't working properly and you should log a bug. Like any crosspost, the content federates fine.
Hope that clears it up for you.
I understand that, it is fine. My point was that having to mess around to see something is why users get fed up. Nothing that can be done about it really, it is a mess brought upon by a poorly worded and applied act that really doesn't do the simple things it set out to do...
Do you know why?
UK OSA Act ie the porn act
Don't know why I expected something interesting from the Brits but I looked at lemmy.zip posts and was a bit disappointed. Is there a list of the websites blocked in the UK maybe with rates and comments what you definitely should not visit and such?
And as if by magic...
https://www.blocked.org.uk/osa-blocks
Thanks. Still no porn though, mostly tech related websites. Why are they banned by osa?
I don't think anything like that exists, way too easy to bypass them right now
You sure that the issue is geographical? I'm in the UK and was able to access the site without using a VPN or anything like that.
lemmy.zip is blocked in the UK
Oh I see what you're talking about. I thought you meant the link to fffmpegs forgejo site rather than the crosspost link.
Maybe it's just the app I'm using, but sync was able to redirect me to the Open source community that this was originally posted to. (It's hosted on lemmy.ml, but the poster is from Lemmy.zip, which is why the post link is Lemmy.zip).
When I open via browser though, I see the OSA block that you're referring too... An interesting difference for sure. But I suppose if all posts from lemmy.zip were blocked, we wouldn't be seeing this one either, so I'm guessing it's just post shares that won't work?
Well it seems that the title is fetched and when you click to visit then it is geoblocked...
I mean I get the idea, and it is fine (if I wanted to I'd magically move to another country) but it was more a point that federation for geoblocked stuff is kinda borked (not in a bad way)
Time for Mullvad VPN?
I haz a vpn thanks. I was just bringing attention to how it is shown yet can't see it. Schroedingers Post I shall call it
Website written by an asshole tho - crawler protection that excludes browsers without javascript enabled.
Can access fine (with reduced functionality) on my end with JS disabled - maybe you have something else tripping it up or something?
Dunno, it is th duckduckgo browser for Android (from F-Droid store) on default settings that failed to access...
Seems like something else tripping it up. Just tested with DDG Browser from F-Droid. Passed the bot test, no issues. Did have to reload the page once for it to render properly though. After that, worked just fine. Aggressive DNS ad blocker, maybe?
My bad, I should have read the error better (although I could have sworn it was complaining about javascript before, I probably misremember): The actual error is
Still, that is on default settings...
Try contacting the Forgejo admin, they can enable the HTTP meta refresh challenge, though it does have a higher false positive rate. https://anubis.techaro.lol/docs/admin/configuration/challenges/metarefresh
You're the asshole for expecting an open source project to have to spend all their time supporting every possible niche browser/configuration, rather than spending time building their actual product that people want to use.
Because disabling JS is unheard of in the open source world, right?
They implemented a feature that breaks the website for people who otherwise have no issues while providing no functional value to the site "rather than spending time building their actual product that people want to use."
It's one thing to expect them to do special work to support an uncommon configuration, and it's another to feel frustrated that they did extra work to break a less common but still unremarkable configuration.
I entirely support people not wanting bots to scrape their shit, but there's a handful of websites I use that use this specific blocking software and it frequently gets angry and blocks me if I'm on my phone for no good reason. It's annoying, and getting angry at the user for being upset that your website is broken is about the only thing more unreasonable than demanding that an open source developer do work for you for free.
Anubis is a PoW open source crawling/DDoS protection
Directly cloning should still be supported, I hope
Yeah same, I'm on Brave and Anubis is blocking me. Not hating on them for using Anubis though. It is unfortunate that it's blocking me nonetheless.
(Inb4 I am told to commit sudoku for using Brave, yes I know the owner sucks)
If you know, why still use it?
Not like theres a bazillion other chrome browsers and you could probably use any other browser (depending on the add-ons you really need)
Because the other browsers have less features, and the other owners suck as well. As for the browser itself, Brave it probably the best chrome-based one out there for desktop
I'm trying to take a progress over perfection approach to these things. My number one priority was to get off of Chrome and Firefox is pretty rough on mobile. I tried a few things and Brave was the one with the best experience, especially because of the ad blocking without needing to mess around with a bunch of plugins. I figure I can go deeper into that iceberg over time. What do you use?
Really? I am using Firefox on mobile (Android) and I'd say it's pretty much fine for most of what I use it for.
Plugins (DarkReader, ublock, TWP) work very well and the overall experience is totally acceptable.
Recently even 3rd party passkey support was enabled, stopping google from intercepting the requests.
Same problem here but JS is enabled
edit: cleared cookies and removed useragent spoofing in brave shields and it seemed to have worked
Questionable move
It's an open-source repository management platform that they're self-hosting. What on earth could possibly be questionable about it?!
Self-hosting is good. Modern software is trash
Modern software like Lemmy, for instance?
Reject modernity, embrace cuneiform on clay tablets!
Isn’t it just git? What’s the difference?
git is just the source control. Pull requests, web front-end, a central server that is a single point-of-truth with policy enforcement, issue management, etc. do not come in the box with git.
GitHub provides that, as do Gitlab and others. GitHub is a Microsoft product, and MS is getting scary with the AI push.
ForgeJo is self-hosted and simple.
What a dumb statement.
Ughhh. It's git. Same technology.
It's worth learning a bit more about technology.
Why
GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft. It's the logical step for self sovereignty
No longer subject to GitHub's rules, privacy problems and shadowbans
That server software probably modern trash
So you don't know what you're talking about is what you're saying?
So "I don't know but I'm going to shit on it anyway"
Why is it probably trash