Ugh, same here in the UK. I live on a tiny road and have to watch my neighbour struggle to parallel park every day. Why does he do this to himself? He looks miserable.
My mother and former stepfather wants it, because they think it's only about making sure people mow their grass on the regular, because wasps might be nesting there.
How would padding it with vegetables have helped? Would seltzer water have been less shaken up?
Shaming someone biking to and from the store for getting zero calorie soda is ridiculous. Post the contents of your last trip to the grocery store. Made on foot or bike I’m sure, right?
To be clear, even if the answer to that was yes and you eat nothing but ‘health food’ it wouldn’t give you the right to sneer at what other people eat and drink.
I find trailers for bikes tend to bounce pretty high until you have significant weight. Then they only bounce about as much as the bike. Unless you were talking about a hand cart.
As someone who's lived on a cobblestone street before, it's nice to look at, but a lot less functional than asphalt or concrete. Especially trying to walk home from the bar with a few drinks in you.
They're apparently also pretty good for slowing down cars in pedestrian-heavy areas, but yeah, taking a fall on those after a few drinks does hurt like shit haha
They do, they get very slick in some conditions. In winter/freezing conditions it's an outright hazard. But there really aren't that many such streets left, and the few that are are slowly being changed to asphalt too.
You are right. They are. But they're less common than driveways in the US and I don't know why you guys make yours so smooth that if there's freezing weather you can't even walk up it if there's the tiniest incline.
Not that this is any sort of competition, just thought about it
I was very fortunate to go on a vacation last month in Belgium where we rode bikes to several different towns.
It was awesome, but the cobblestone streets in some of those old cities are ROUGH. Just bone shaking. The chain on the bike I was riding bounced off once when I needed to shift.
It also makes blisters on your feet hurt A LOT (probably not a problem for most people, but I have a condition that makes me blister a lot more :( it's ruined so many trips that I would have otherwise enjoyed)
Ha! I needed baguettes, got two and tossed them in the bike basket, feeling so European, until one loaf bounced out and was run over by a car, at which point I felt oh so American!
If you shoot your finger against the side (like shooting away a cigarette bud) several times, then slowly rotate the bottle around it's axel while it's standing on a table several times, you can safely open them without them squirting all over the place. It truly works, also with shaken soda/beer cans.
What I do with these groceries is put them in a bag on my back or in my hand when cycling. The rack is for other stuff like veggies and other stuff that can handle the shaking or might get shitty when stuffed in a bag.
But you have a nice rack on your bike. Although it looks hard to take anyone on the back, unless they stand upright.
There's more CO2 dissolved in the water than there can be at atmospheric pressure. The CO2 is constantly trying to escape, but in order to do so it needs a nucleation site that disturbs the water. When the drink is shaken, lots of little bubbles form, and stick to the inner wall of the drink. These bubbles are nucleation sites. Flicking the side of the drink makes them float up and pop.
Shaking does not affect this the way you think it does. You'll be fine as long as you wait like 10-60 seconds after shaking vigorously. The liquid and gas pressure inside will reach equilibrium, and no matter how much shaking you do, it won't degas further.
Also, keep in mind that it's mostly temperature and surface area that causes soda to degas (fall out of solution).
Fun fact: this is why paper straws are inferior to plastic straws for drinking soda, because paper is insanely more porous than plastic, and causes rapid degassing of the soda inside of the straw, rather than in your mouth, throat, and stomach. (There are other reasons, too, but this one is often not considered by most people)
Metal straws have to have a rubber or other dielectric mouthpiece, or electrolysis sets up in the mouth and the electrical activity confuses the hell out of the taste buds.
also if you spin the bottle a few times (while it’s oriented normally) all of the bubbles stuck to the side go to the top and redissolve….
learned it on “better call saul” and it works amazingly.
….
since the bubbles are lighter than the liquid, when you spin it centrifugal force knocks the bubbles off the wall….
Also, with those bottles, if you're prepared for them to potentially explode, you can open them carefully and just close it again if pressure leaks out quickly once the seal opens. Then let out the extra pressure in short bursts and the bubbles won't bring a bunch of liquid with them because they can't build enough momentum to lift it.
Stupid part is that I can't ride a tank around here with all the tank-hostile architecture 😠 They got these triangular tank obstacles scattered around everywhere, it's so inconvenient!
In Barcelona, I was told their tap water was trash so I had to buy bottled water. The hotel I was staying at said the samething and they were giving me bottles for free.
All I know is that it's beige and from 2011! Held up pretty well all things considered, the battery still lasts for 10km or so, which is plenty for getting to work and doing grocery trips :D
Both! I don't have the self control to not drink caffeine before bed and stay up all night, but if I drink it during the day I get pretty bad chest pain because caffeine doesn't play nice with my adhd meds :(
Did you know there is a maximum pressure in the bottle, at which point shaking has no more effect since the pressure keeps the bubbles in your drink? This point is quickly reached, and already happened before it went into the store.
1.25L actually if you look at the top of them. but that must be an exceptionally big backpack. or maybe that size is just not that common in my country for some reason
It's not really not the size, most backpacks really are at least 20 liters. It's the shape. But mine would take 6 1.25 litre bottles, easy. It's a large quality rucksack. I've had it for literally more than a quarter of a century. Something like 26-27 years prolly.
But I agree, 6x 1.25 l bottles in a very basic backpack might present a challenge, because it's usually not wide enough for one to go sideways on the bottom (mine is tho, for 1.25l, which is uncommon size here tho). Or just put three at the bottom and then three upside down on top of them. Even a basic backpack could do that I'm sure.
Might not close all the way properly but surely would hold them. I've had easily 24 cans in my backpack. The straps lasted for 20 years or something then one time I jumped a fence with like 30 cans and the left strap just broke. (but the fall was like 2 meters, not just a tiny fence you know) It had been kinda dying for a few years and the replacement is subpar to the material it used to be but still.
Seems like the worst part is not too bad, all things considered. All you need is half an hour patience with the fizzy drinks ;)
Have to say, hate cycling on the cobbles, but love the look of them in the cities!
Also, cobbles generally force cars to slow down indeed.
I get more bike maintenance issues if my route to work has a lot of cobbled roads. I end up taking longer routes to avoid the cobbles.
There are not enough dedicated cycle paths.
I don’t know who “dine in style” is, and I’m not watching a video.
Here’s one from BBC science focus:
Tapping the sides of the can before you open it might help to dislodge the bubbles, so the gas is all at the top of the can and there are fewer nucleation sites. But it's only partially effective. Leaving the can to stand for a minute works better.
Contrary to what would seem logical, you’re actually supposed to shake them side to side, canceling out the fizz. It’s best to open it up right afterward as well, while holding it under your nose. Old wives trick
Two nuns are riding their bikes back to the convent.
One nun says to the other, “I don’t think I’ve ever come this way before.”
And the other one says, “It's the cobblestones.”
It seems the solution to all your problems are:
3 of those are already set in motions.
I live in the Netherlands. Every year I see more and more American trucks on the road. The cancer is spreading.
We need a 500% tariff on US vehicles.
500% import duty is way too much.
80% is enough.
High one-time taxes are not a good idea.
Rather dilute them into 8 seperate yearly taxes.
A curb weight tax of 40% sounds reasonable. A fuel inefficiency penalty of 25% also sounds good.
At least a 15% tax on anything shorter than 1 meter being invisible from the cabin is also very warranted.
That's 3 of 8.
Additionally, whenever a truck is involved in a crash treat it disfavourably. That should drive up insurance premiums.
So with my 80/80 tax mix they'd actually pay 880% tax in the first 10 years of ownership with 3 basic taxes.
There is hope! I convinced my neighbor to downgrade his f150 into a Tacoma....
I can't stand big cars.
We need to stop it from spreading. Genuinely ass to see these non-logical small pp vehicles exist here in any capacity.
Ugh, same here in the UK. I live on a tiny road and have to watch my neighbour struggle to parallel park every day. Why does he do this to himself? He looks miserable.
Or a mountain bike with suspension
Or drinking less soda
nah, bring me my christian-fascist leaders!
/s
Maybe throw a housing association in there too. You've gotta make sure your fining people for growing the wrong flowers.
My mother and former stepfather wants it, because they think it's only about making sure people mow their grass on the regular, because wasps might be nesting there.
Or simply waiting a bit before drinking the soda to let the CO2 settle and stop being a whiny little baby about minor inconveniences.
Let a girl shitpost! My manager insisted that I take the day off to enjoy the nice weather and I'm bored as hell 😠
Damn right, girl! Shitpost and chill!
Throw a mentos in those bottles and you'll no longer be bored
You'll have to wash 3 years of laundry after, but you won't be bored
Lemmy Shitpost is actually a place where people can come and dissect humor, and eventually turn it political.
manager: have a day off, enjoy the nice weather!
home inside: 32°C
Number 4 is reasonable if people are educated on what Marxism is in theory and practice
Now see. That is communism. And communism is just fucking Hitler.
Fascist religious leaders on the other hand might save you in the end.
I honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here
Would have been fine if you bought real food/drink.
How would padding it with vegetables have helped? Would seltzer water have been less shaken up?
Shaming someone biking to and from the store for getting zero calorie soda is ridiculous. Post the contents of your last trip to the grocery store. Made on foot or bike I’m sure, right?
To be clear, even if the answer to that was yes and you eat nothing but ‘health food’ it wouldn’t give you the right to sneer at what other people eat and drink.
nah they're right, I eat like shit
Hats off to those who recognize their own bad habits.
Although really, in terms of bad habits, this is relatively minor.
Although, it is also bad for beer.
Now that's an argument!! Gotta get a little trolley for my beer trips
Or switch to whiskey
I find trailers for bikes tend to bounce pretty high until you have significant weight. Then they only bounce about as much as the bike. Unless you were talking about a hand cart.
You don't want your trailer to bounce like a hiphopper's car?
Still doesn’t give anyone a reason to be an ass about it. Nobody has a perfect diet and habits without having an eating disorder.
Nah, cola is fine, it's just that it's American. There are quite a few awesome local brands you can drink here.
As a Dutchy, and BuyFromEU, Fritz Kola from AH is amazing.
I drink that and Fentimans when I do.
Fentimans or Bundaberg ginger beer and whatever Kinley sells is not even the same league.
They have taste beyond the insane amount of bland sugar.
Yes!! Bundaberg also has blood orange and passion fruit. Great stuff.
Sometimes people want some nice snacks and shizz
nice drinks don't support an Apartheid genocide
Hmm?
coca cola has illegal Israeli bottling plants in the west bank.
huh, that is good to know. Another reason to just get the store brand next time
Try Fritz Kola from AH, its amazing + it's glass.
TIL
No reason to buy American snacks, lots of European alternatives to choose from in that department.
Could be that they just like Coca-Cola
Great username
As someone who's lived on a cobblestone street before, it's nice to look at, but a lot less functional than asphalt or concrete. Especially trying to walk home from the bar with a few drinks in you.
They're apparently also pretty good for slowing down cars in pedestrian-heavy areas, but yeah, taking a fall on those after a few drinks does hurt like shit haha
On the pro side, if done well, they outlast every tar road by centuries.
I don't live in Europe, but I've heard horror stories about how slippery those streets get in the rain
They do, they get very slick in some conditions. In winter/freezing conditions it's an outright hazard. But there really aren't that many such streets left, and the few that are are slowly being changed to asphalt too.
Also a bitch to walk on in high heels, no matter the weather!
At least 50% of the problem is high heels though. Respect the sacrifice of anyone who wears them
Can confirm, having worked food delivery in the Netherlands.
There's a really good reason they're only used on low speed streets and squares, and now large roads.
You are right. They are. But they're less common than driveways in the US and I don't know why you guys make yours so smooth that if there's freezing weather you can't even walk up it if there's the tiniest incline.
Not that this is any sort of competition, just thought about it
I was very fortunate to go on a vacation last month in Belgium where we rode bikes to several different towns.
It was awesome, but the cobblestone streets in some of those old cities are ROUGH. Just bone shaking. The chain on the bike I was riding bounced off once when I needed to shift.
It also makes blisters on your feet hurt A LOT (probably not a problem for most people, but I have a condition that makes me blister a lot more :( it's ruined so many trips that I would have otherwise enjoyed)
Ha! I needed baguettes, got two and tossed them in the bike basket, feeling so European, until one loaf bounced out and was run over by a car, at which point I felt oh so American!
somebody crusha ma baguette 🐭😡
American here. I have seen plenty of roadkill in my lifetime, but none of it was ever a baguette.
In my experience the roadkill is way more likely to be the cyclist. You really can't ride a bike where I live.
The worst part is becoming accustomed to fresh, high-quality food and espresso within 100m of every human at all times.
Also, OP, why are you having "American Breakfast"? Where's your croissant?
In my MOUF
The deathgrip. As if that croissant owes you money or something.
She's just still so mad that her drinks are all shaken up.
That actually makes perfect sense. The ketchup on the croissant must not be helping either.
I'm sure it'll be bearable once she dipped it in the coffee.
Are you dipping that croissant in ketchup
It's probably jam
Tomato jam
I don't think she's Scandinavian.
Vad var det du sa
At folk fra Skandinavia pleie å dekke alt med ketchup selv om det ikke passer i det hele tatt.
Are those croissants store-bought or from a bakery/cafe? Because i'd like to know where I can buy vegan croissants that look that good.
They're from Moss, a chain of bakeries around the Aachen area ^^ Their vegan Streuselbrötchen are incredible as well!
That's even "worse" than the 15 minute city. MAGA would lose their minds.
If you shoot your finger against the side (like shooting away a cigarette bud) several times, then slowly rotate the bottle around it's axel while it's standing on a table several times, you can safely open them without them squirting all over the place. It truly works, also with shaken soda/beer cans.
What I do with these groceries is put them in a bag on my back or in my hand when cycling. The rack is for other stuff like veggies and other stuff that can handle the shaking or might get shitty when stuffed in a bag.
But you have a nice rack on your bike. Although it looks hard to take anyone on the back, unless they stand upright.
Better call Saul taught me this!
I can confirm, flicking your finger on the side of the bottle works. I have no Idea why tho.
There's more CO2 dissolved in the water than there can be at atmospheric pressure. The CO2 is constantly trying to escape, but in order to do so it needs a nucleation site that disturbs the water. When the drink is shaken, lots of little bubbles form, and stick to the inner wall of the drink. These bubbles are nucleation sites. Flicking the side of the drink makes them float up and pop.
Increases pressure so the gases dissolve back into the liquid. Probably.
That makes no sense. I apply way more pressure than a flick just by holding the bottle to open it
Maybe peak pressure is higher for a millisecond when you flick the bottle. A flick would send a little shockwave through the bottle.
Shaking does not affect this the way you think it does. You'll be fine as long as you wait like 10-60 seconds after shaking vigorously. The liquid and gas pressure inside will reach equilibrium, and no matter how much shaking you do, it won't degas further.
Also, keep in mind that it's mostly temperature and surface area that causes soda to degas (fall out of solution).
Fun fact: this is why paper straws are inferior to plastic straws for drinking soda, because paper is insanely more porous than plastic, and causes rapid degassing of the soda inside of the straw, rather than in your mouth, throat, and stomach. (There are other reasons, too, but this one is often not considered by most people)
Carry metal straws. They're awesome
I raw dog my drinks.
I don't like the way they taste. I'm on team glass straws.
Even better, no straw. Sip it straight from the cup.
Nah, curl your tongue into a tube and stick it in the drink to use as a straw
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Metal straws have to have a rubber or other dielectric mouthpiece, or electrolysis sets up in the mouth and the electrical activity confuses the hell out of the taste buds.
Hot take: I actually like the cardboard ones
They need to be cooled anyway before being drunk, so the beverage has some time to relax
also if you spin the bottle a few times (while it’s oriented normally) all of the bubbles stuck to the side go to the top and redissolve….
learned it on “better call saul” and it works amazingly.
….
since the bubbles are lighter than the liquid, when you spin it centrifugal force knocks the bubbles off the wall….
Also, with those bottles, if you're prepared for them to potentially explode, you can open them carefully and just close it again if pressure leaks out quickly once the seal opens. Then let out the extra pressure in short bursts and the bubbles won't bring a bunch of liquid with them because they can't build enough momentum to lift it.
It still takes hours for those to dissolve.
no it doesn’t, the pressure forces it back into solution pretty quickly….
it’s a lot better if it’s cold though
This is why you need aomwthing with tank treads. Like a tank for example
Stupid part is that I can't ride a tank around here with all the tank-hostile architecture 😠 They got these triangular tank obstacles scattered around everywhere, it's so inconvenient!
https://www.slashgear.com/1567777/ww2-dragons-teeth-tank-obstacles/
You need a Mars rover style split tank thread solution!
Also some better shock absorbers, also like a Mars rover
Op didn't say if they were in Germany or not.
Or just say you're feeling like Poland and tanks will appear
No cobbles in the pictures
Press X to doubt.jpeg
Cool them down and let settle before opening. Should help.
If that's the worst part you're having a goddamn amazing time.
Now I'm gonna tell you a "secret".
We European drinks mainly water from the tap, when we don't drink beer or wine od course.
(except many Italians mi, they're stupid and buy water in plastic bottles).
In Barcelona, I was told their tap water was trash so I had to buy bottled water. The hotel I was staying at said the samething and they were giving me bottles for free.
Talking seriously, I've been in some places where the tap water was disgusting. Probably safe but still undrinkable.
There are some places where it is in fact undrinkable. Always check online first.
What kind of bike is that?
That's a lot of sugary drink 😂
All I know is that it's beige and from 2011! Held up pretty well all things considered, the battery still lasts for 10km or so, which is plenty for getting to work and doing grocery trips :D
Oh I helped someone fix one of those. Nice.
Looks pretty cool! Should have known it was an e-bike
Technically no sugar, it's the 'zero' variant.
It's Zero caffeine too! Which makes it the 'zero zero' variant, I think
Next level: zero American. Zero zero zero.
Lidl does have some zero caffeine and zero sugar cola. They introduced it this year I think.
ooh I've had that before, it's awesome!
That's olidligt (as they said in their Swedish marketing campaign, lol)
Are you drinking 0 caffeine coke because you have a life threatening heart condition or because you're a child?
Both! I don't have the self control to not drink caffeine before bed and stay up all night, but if I drink it during the day I get pretty bad chest pain because caffeine doesn't play nice with my adhd meds :(
I find I need both ADHD meds and a quad espresso or two to be even borderline functional.
Did you know there is a maximum pressure in the bottle, at which point shaking has no more effect since the pressure keeps the bubbles in your drink? This point is quickly reached, and already happened before it went into the store.
A backpack would solve this. Our bodies are suspension, so just put anything shake-sensitive in your backpack while driving home.
but 6 liters of cola? you can't fit that in a backpack
Why not?
I just backpacked home 18 cans which is about exactly 6 litres.
But I could easily also fit 3 2 l bottles or 6 1l bottles or 12 0.5 bottles.
And that still leaves like half to a third of my backpack available, depending on the shape of the containers.
Backpacks are usually around 20-30 liters in size.
Edit also tbh that looks more like 6 1.5l bottles but I'm not sure of that and I think it'll they'd fit in my backpack
1.25L actually if you look at the top of them. but that must be an exceptionally big backpack. or maybe that size is just not that common in my country for some reason
There are all imaginable backpack sizes in my country.
It's not really not the size, most backpacks really are at least 20 liters. It's the shape. But mine would take 6 1.25 litre bottles, easy. It's a large quality rucksack. I've had it for literally more than a quarter of a century. Something like 26-27 years prolly.
But I agree, 6x 1.25 l bottles in a very basic backpack might present a challenge, because it's usually not wide enough for one to go sideways on the bottom (mine is tho, for 1.25l, which is uncommon size here tho). Or just put three at the bottom and then three upside down on top of them. Even a basic backpack could do that I'm sure.
Might not close all the way properly but surely would hold them. I've had easily 24 cans in my backpack. The straps lasted for 20 years or something then one time I jumped a fence with like 30 cans and the left strap just broke. (but the fall was like 2 meters, not just a tiny fence you know) It had been kinda dying for a few years and the replacement is subpar to the material it used to be but still.
Seems like the worst part is not too bad, all things considered. All you need is half an hour patience with the fizzy drinks ;) Have to say, hate cycling on the cobbles, but love the look of them in the cities! Also, cobbles generally force cars to slow down indeed.
So where's the problem?
Get some shocks for your basket 🤷♂️
Or just wait a few minutes before opening them
Can you show an example? I can't imagine what that would look like if you're bike is not already full suspension.
Maybe you should put something to dampen that. Like bubble wrap, newspapers, stuffed animals?
You're saying I should have bought more chips?? Don't mind if i doo
If you buy potato chips as shock absorbers you'll come home with potato dust
Still tasty though
I can feel your pain, switched to Picnic though, never looked back.
I have even put cobblestones in the garden now for nostalgic reasons. (Basaltkeien)
As long as they’re hot they shouldn’t pop. The fizzing over should only happen when it’s cold.
I get more bike maintenance issues if my route to work has a lot of cobbled roads. I end up taking longer routes to avoid the cobbles. There are not enough dedicated cycle paths.
I still wonder who ever thought cobbled roads are a great idea.
Terrible to ride. Terrible to walk. Bad at just about everything.
Newer cobbled roads might be to make cars drive slower.
Soda Maker at home.
With cans you tap on the top a few times before opening them so that the fizz doesn't come bursting out. Is there a similar trick for bottles?
That’s half myth. It might work a little, it might not work at all. Best bet is to just let the beverage sit for a couple minutes.
:O
I learned it in some science-y educational TV show from when I was a kid. It's never failed me.
Found another video with more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrizFz-bgX0
I don’t know who “dine in style” is, and I’m not watching a video.
Here’s one from BBC science focus:
Snopes describes the process and actually conducts an experiment: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/on-tap/
So hence my suggestion that it may work, but is mostly likely myth.
Contrary to what would seem logical, you’re actually supposed to shake them side to side, canceling out the fizz. It’s best to open it up right afterward as well, while holding it under your nose. Old wives trick