Also, can we stop polluting the tech comms with this crap? Why are people posting this stuff here again? We were perfectly fine for awhile with no musk Twitter shit posts.
This conversation has had is back and forth far too many times. Twitter spam is not relevant to technology news. Him not blocking people has no barring on any form of new tech. It belongs in the ![email protected] comms, that's why that was created.
It became a platform in which the whole world communicated about anything and everything. Maybe it still is to an extent, but knocking down the world's platform plank by plank isn't an absurd thing to write about
I absolutely agree.
That doesn't mean its had anything to do with technology. A business comm or the above mentioned spam community would be a better fit.
But like I said earlier that has been discussed a million times already. I'm not discussing it anymore.
The Fediverse is already fractured and niche, are you saying that someone should fine the perfect 36 user community, that only those subscribers are knowledgeable about, to post this to? Or perhaps news about the global platform might be relevant in the largest technology community?
2 years ago Twitter was where news broke, now it is where we get to watch a billionaire go broke in real time.
If it bothers you so much, block all mentions of the platform, person, etc.
I agree with you. Personally I like seeing the meltdown without having to actually visit the site. Same reason I appreciate seeing how Reddit has gone full Digg4.0 but haven't visited the site since the 3rd Party Apps died.
This is/has a significant impact on technology and media.
Not to be an idiot - but where should people post this stuff? I mean, I do find it interesting occasionally, and like to see what other's think, not so much complaining that it was posted at all.
The Comnect android app has a keyeord filter. Would seem easy enough to just put 'musk' inthere and unless you have an interest in muskies, muskrats, or some men's cologne lines it would filter things pretty cleanly.
It strikes me as wierd that you'd rather everyone else use the community the way you want it instead of just using a filter that makes it what you want it to be. Some people want to keep up with these things without following communities desicated to musk and they don't have to agree to use this conmunity exactly the way you want it to be used.
It's gotten to the point where I've even blocked the communities that are supposed to be making light of the fact that there's too much musk spam.. because I'm tired of all the musk spam...
Hrs irrelevant and nobody can change my mind. He can fuck right off idc.
I down vote any post on here that mentions X, Twitter, or Elon, usually without even reading them. I made an exception to post this reply, but did down vote the OP.
You think being inevitably forced to see every bit of harassment and spam is going to make that platform more popular and financially viable? Nah, if anything this is free advertising for Mastodon.
Firefish is another fediverse microblogging platform and it has search and quote tweets, but you can't follow hashtags in your regular timeline (you can set up a separate timeline called an antenna that regularly pulls in posts according to a list of words or hashtags you specify). It also has a tweet deck style layout you can setup and you can easily follow and be followed by mastodon users from a firefish account.
There are other alternatives as well, but this is the one I am most familiar with.
In the same way lemmy is like many reddits communicating with eachother; mastodon is comparable to many twitters that can share users and posts with eachother
It's very similar to Twitter, I'd say even more than Lemmy is to Reddit. Mastodon federated like Lemmy but in practice you can follow anyone from any instance. You just need to follow people using @[email protected] rather than just @username
Yeah, but every time these stories blow up, Mastodon, Threads, and BlueSky gets another user base boost. I’m ok with that. These stories keep making the alternative communities more and more viable.
I agree, he seems unwell and the attention is continuing the negative spiral. Unfortunately, I don't think we can control what people are interested in. This is a total spectacle and media circus
This is PRECISELY the reason. He fired a lead engineer who told him they can't control how many people engage with his tweets. So he made it so that EVERYONE gets to see his tweets in their feed. Queue mass blocking of him and now he's upset.
Lol oh my god, I think you’re 100% on the ball with that hypothesis. I honestly can’t think of a better explanation, and it absolutely fits with his narcissistic neuroses.
I mean… I’m willing to fight this fight if he wants to play it that way. I’d be more than happy to make a lot more heinous troll accounts to spam him with, and I’m willing to bet that a lot of other people feel the same way.
He wants shitbag, astroturf, conservative, fascist “personalities” to be able to respond to and every prominent non-fascist post where they can be promoted to the top of the replies.
As a bonus, it will also help the astroturfing oil companies better kill environmental efforts.
Maybe he wants to get rid off the somewhat smart people on Twitter so the rest can be easily radicalized with the intend that they vote against their interest and for the interests of rich people?
I'd say it's either that or he wants greater reach to feed his narcism.
Mr. "assassination coordinates" said he was going to live stream driving to Zucks house to fight him, which would effectively doxx Zuck. Expecting logical consistency is silly.
What I suspect will happen is that Musk cronies will be free to harass anyone they want, but anyone harassing Musk or one of this cronies will be banned.
what's the difference between block and mute? Block just lets them not see your feed and notifies them of this, but mute just hides anything they post from you?
Muting people that harass you instead of blocking them enable them to just spam libel about you onto your posts, which can have other effects. At least with blocking, they can't just do it on your actual posts.
If you mute someone, you don't see their posts. They don't get any notification that you have muted them. It's the same as blocking but they don't know they are blocked.
Blocking is a step up from muting. Muting just makes it so you don't see the muted users' posts and comments. Blocking makes it so that the blocked user is muted, plus they cannot see any of your posts and comments. Blocked users also cannot @ you.
The only difference between block and mute is that your are informing them they are blocked, prompting them to make an alt so that they can keep doing shit.
Thanks for the correction. I thought it was different at some point, but to be fair I haven't used Twitter in many years now. I just assumed it was still similar to how most other apps handle it.
If you block someone else on Twitter, they can't even see your profile at all (muting still allows them to see your profile and interact with everything you post or retweet). Sure, it tells them they're blocked, but this also means they can't interact with anything you post at all. If they want too, they'll either have to make an alt account (someone most are too lazy to do) or ask fellow toxic assholes to screenshot your posts for them to see.
Muting is useless when dealing with harassers. It's why the block feature was added; because minority communities begged for it.
"it makes no sense" literally every social media site in existence has the block feature, and the reason is to help people prevent harassment. Elon is like a fucking toddler, it's obvious he just wants to get rid of blocking because he's pissy about being blocked by other people.
The block feature is not there out of the goodness of their CEO's heart.
It is there to limit liability from harassment. After all, why police harassment laws at your expense. When you can get the end user to enforce it for you.
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Every day he further proves that he has no idea what he's doing. He's 100% going to reverse this decision when he find out all of the things he should have know before saying anything.
I can see him choosing to leave the app stores like epic did just to dodge the 30% cut. And of course he will put on a bunch of theatre about "free speech" if they do unlist Twitter.
I half wonder if he is running an experiment to see how much his users are willing to put up with so that all the other tech companies can figure out how far they can push us.
It's been non-stop advanced bullshit after bullshit coming out of basically all corpos for the past year, but things were always headed in this direction. Muskrat just helped speed things along. The silver lining in all of this is the Fediverse and other platforms are finally popping off. Hopefully that trend gains more momentum and big tech dies before we end up further into a future we don't want to be in.
This but his goal is to find the line and step over it, not toe it. He didn't like Twitter being a liberal leaning platform that pushed extreme conservatives out so he's reversing that. The only nuance he's using is to do it slowly enough that there's still libs to pwn on his platform over the rather than having them all leave at once. Plus if he can chase them away rather than ban them, he can claim to be more about free speech. But this is all about suppressing opinions he doesn't like, with an added bonus that he can ban people for not loving him.
That’s what I was thinking. Either a specific person blocked him that he got upset about or the amount of people that have him blocked upset him. Either way it’s personal and he’s throwing a tantrum like a toddler. Again.
What's there to maintain, the feature is already there and should be relatively simple. I can't imagine that Twitter backend is so bad that it requires active work on all components.
Lmao this is going to be incredible to watch unfold. I am assuming Elon himself has blocked an absolute fuckton of accounts that are just out to troll him, so either he’s gonna (rightly) get absolutely inundated by trolls, or he’s gonna make the devs disable it for everyone except him and whoever else he wants to give that feature to.
I’m betting I can reverse engineer how to create spam accounts in a mostly automated fashion faster than he can ban accounts. And I bet a lot of other people can do the same.
I feel very confident saying that he’s not gonna win this one.
That's what people have been saying about every step of the musk acquisition process and yet still people use Twitter. Thinking back to the Facebook privacy controversy years back, everybody still uses Facebook. There can be an infinite amount of red flags and warnings, but these websites are such a huge part of some people's lives that none of it matters to them, unfortunately.
I caught that it was a silly joke and got a little kick out of it. I'm not sure why other people reacted the way they did. Maybe they thought you were mocking or making fun? I dunno.
“Mr. Billionaire Tech Company CEO, what was your detailed reasoning for the removal of a highly important feature that benefits way more users than the ones it harms?”
Agree, I think that's probably the driving force behind this. He can't troll most people anymore because any even remotely sane person (who's still on Twitter for some reason) has blocked him. Musk lives to troll, so it must drive him absolutely crazy.
This is going to get buried, but I think it's important to note that block on twitter (unlike on most platforms) works both ways. You can still mute an account, and you won't see any of their content or mentions.
By removing block, it means you can no longer block a person from following you, but you can still prevent seeing their stuff. After all - all that person has to do see your public tweets is open an incognito browser window, and view your profile. If you have a private profile, none of this applies to begin with. So in that sense, I agree with Elon - block in its current form on twitter makes no sense.
Edit: Responding directly onto your posts - good point, I hadn't considered that. It's partially circumvented by changing the setting so can comment on your posts, but I agree that's more effort. For all the other things though - if you block someone now they can just take a screenshot of your tweet and comment on that.
After all - all that person has to do see your public tweets is open an incognito browser window, and view your profile.
Pretty sure you have to sign in, or will very soon.
And people can likely still retweet, you just won't see it.
So Ben Shapiro can still retweet everything AOC says to "slam" her, and only the people who haven't muted him (his fans) can circlejerk and post harassing replies. She just wouldn't see it.
Block also blocks them from seeing your posts and responding to them. Which is valuable. I don’t want people to creep on my profile if I’ve blocked them.
I use mute to get people who tweet in the wrong language off my timeline.
I deleted my twitter so I guess it’s not my problem now
Fair enough. I never used the algorithm timeline that inserts strangers into your stream so that was never an issue for me. Just the people I follow, chronologically, for me. Whether I block them or not, people who really want to would still be able to read my tweets. Blocking them just gives them more acknowledgement than they deserve.
I haven't deleted mine yet, but I only seldom check it. Left this video as a pinned post though, it might inspire some people to quit as well.
Lmao this is overlooking the most important part of the block feature. Without the Block feature spammers, scammers, and crazies can destroy anyones posts by filling it with dick pics, scams, gore, anything. Blocks prevent people from posting on your posts.
Without the Block feature spammers, scammers, and crazies can destroy anyones posts by filling it with dick pics, scams, gore, anything.
Pretty sure they'd only destroy their own account with that - they'd be 1 report away from being banned. If none of your followers were to report it, it's probably time to cancel your account.
As long as mute still gets their posts out of my feed it's all fine by me I guess. I can't figure out what's the downside here. I couldn't care less if the people I've muted can see my profile or not. Preventing individual users from accessing your profile is kind of petty to be honest.
Musk is intentionally killing twitter confirmed. First he tried to tank its value and retract his buy offer but was forced in to the purchase by the SEC. So now he's just playing the long game by killing it step by step with his own hands.
Unless that’s exactly what they wanted. Keep in mind that people have used twitter to mobilize against oppression all over the world. The people in power could definitely be seen to benefit from its destruction. But it won’t matter, people will find other platforms to mobilize on if twitter doesn’t work for them.
He hated twitter for how effective it was in spreading awareness on progressive issues. Him and all the other billionaires want that platform split up, and it only costs him $44b, a fraction of his net worth.
I think this is what's gonna finally end it for Twitter. There has already been a huge increase in harassment/hate, and if people can't block other users spewing that shit, they will actually leave this time
Holy shit. The block feature was the only function that actually worked when dealing with trolls and assholes.
Remove that feature, and the remaining Queer and POC communities are going to be forced off the platform due to the abuse they will not be able to block.
I suspect this is mainly because people with the Blue checks keep crying about getting blocked.
Working as intended. Musk isn't half as smart as he thinks he is, but he's still not stupid enough to think it will play out any way.
He wants to ensure far-right voices are heard and that any opposition to them is bullied off the platform.
There is no need to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he doesn't admit it out loud. Actions speak louder than words and every action he has taken has pandered to the far-right.
I wonder when he says “it makes no sense” if he is just confused by the complexity of it. Because blocking is more complicated than it might seem at first. It introduces issues where different people see different versions of things, and in some ways blocking can be a little like choosing to put your head in the sand regarding someone, but they can still be around, flinging shit at you.
I need to block like 5 bot follows and three fake crypto impersonation accounts including me in a retweet daily. This would break the experience completely for me.
Block makes sense. He knows it makes no sense to remove it. Block has existed on the internet long enough to assume this is completely malicious intent.
Like I flatout refuse to assume he removed a feature used literally everywhere else without ulterior motive. This is just to allow for bad actors to continue to voice themselves without any prevention tools.
I actually never understood why the block function existed, it clearly told the account you blocked that you have blocked them, prompting them to create an alt.
Mute is like shadowban, you won't ever see them and they believe that you can see them.
Blocking stops the assholes from interacting with your own tweets entirely. Sure, they can make an alt to get around that, but that's more work for them. Blocking is simple and quick.
Mute was never good enough because it still allowed assholes to interact with your tweets.
Source: Queer lady that had to block people in order to Twitter to not be trash before Elon bought it.
Doesn't matter if you can't see it; what matters if if THEY can interact with a tweet. That's why the block and mute features are different and why block is superior.
Abusers on Twitter love getting around being muted by interacting with their victims tweets, and finding ways to make their victim see what they're doing. It's why the block feature was implemented in the first place.
Can the abuser find ways around being blocked? Sure, but it requires more work on their part, and most don't bother going that far. But for their victims, blocking is quick and easy.
And from reading some of the responses in this thread, it's obvious to me that some of you never had to deal with being harassed on Twitter; the block feature is absolutely vital. Without it, Twitter is 100% done for. (Though one could argue it's ruined already, cause Musk, but whatever).
How can muted accounts make so that you see what their doing?
By encouraging fellow trolls/assholes to quote, reply and retweet your tweets so you're forced to see them. Also, someone that is muted can still personally reply, quote and retweet your tweets as well; you just won't see it, not unless they find a way around it (as I already described how). Toxic assholes always find away around mute features because it's garbage and isn't useful at all.
If you still can't figure out why removing the block feature will be devastating for a significant portion of Twitters user-base, than you're either acting in bad faith, obtuse, or one of the very toxic assholes that will be thrilled to see blocking removed.
Edit: Oh and one final thing; Lemmy has a block feature. Anymore ridiculous responses from you will result in just that. I can't take anything you say on this topic seriously anymore.
You could argue against creating the feature, but once it already exists and it's not taking up any real processing power or cluttering the interface, why would you ever remove any feature. Does he understand it? No. Do some people use it and find it beneficial? Probably, yeah. Are you forced to use it? No. So what's the problem?
It's like a car manufacturer ordering a recall to remove the the mirror on the passenger side visor because he never uses it. Some people do, my dude, it's not hurting anything, and it will actually cost you money to remove it instead of leaving it. Just leave it alone, dude.
Or... he's not being honest and he wants to remove it because it hurts his ego to know that so many block his account. Yeah, it's probably that.
This is what it sounds like when a severely divorced person screams, "WHY WON'T THIS FUCKING COMPANY FAIL!!! I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO ELIMINATE THIS THREAT AND IT WON'T DIE!"
Don't most app stores have terms and conditions that require social media websites to have actual functional block features? Having them only work for DMs doesn't feel very functional...
Imagine if Elon was playing a long con game and is actually trying to kill Twitter on purpose by disguising himself as the rest of the Republicans in support of them.
Like this "10 dimensional chess" game is him actually just doing the most mundane and simple changes to kill the platform intentionally.
All i know is mastodon better be ready for a fresh batch of twitter refugees washing up on the shores of the fediverse as well as bluesky all so f meta nobody go there
ITT: "Blocking isn't a necessary feature, specifically because I do not get harassed."
Also: "Because you COULD just make an alt, take the time to make a fake email, and even potentially be required to have a fake ID in the future, muting and blocking are LITERALLY the same thing"
Any disincentive is one more step some spineless bastard has to go through to harass you, even if there are work arounds.
I'll bet a buffalo nickel that this is so Musk can guarantee eyeballs on ads.
Arg: expected eyeballs on ads not 100% because blocking. This shiny new 'X' will guarantee 100%.
Tinfoil: If he can disrupt B2B on ads and seize more marketing market share, he looks like a genius and gets to add a payment feature to X. I don't think he's very creative and will just remake PayPal with a fuckton of extra steps.
I'm kind of tired of hearing about what this dummy is up to. He's very rich. But clearly very dumb. He took emerald mine money and lucked his way into some good investments.
Bought his way into Tesla and pretends to be very smart.
Thats not to say every idea he has had is bad. But he is clearly not a smart man overall.
He's the riches man on the planet only because he lucked out with the emerald mine and a couple investments?
I get you people don't like the guy but these comments can get a bit ridiculous. He has some quite obvious flaws but if he's not one of the most significant people of our time then I don't know who is.
If this happens, I'll be deleting my account. I don't care, that the few VTubers I was still engaging with are still there, and haven't jumped over Mastodon, Misskey, etc.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he took over, but it's clear that he's completely mental.
The original owners of Twitter were forever fixing what wasn't broken, but this guy is acting like he's got a new Stretch Armstrong toy and wants to see how far he can stretch it before it breaks.
I think if Hex isn't willing to deal with their "minority" of trolls/hateful users, then I think banning their server is justified. I don't want to punish the majority(?) but I don't know why we should have to deal with their toxic users when our servers wouldn't allow those kinds of users.
I dont understand why regulars are so mad. He literally owns twitter. He can do whatever he wants to do with it. Regulars dont have to engage , if you dont like it , leave. Its that simple.
I dont use twitter myself but regulars going crazy about all these stunts doesnt make any sense.
I own a white Toyota and I paint it red. Nobody can do anything about it because I own the Toyota. Same is the case with twitter .
While removing it is stupid, I also think it's a limited feature. I am blocked by Jason Schreier like many people in gaming culture are. (I didn't even comment on his post, but he did a mass block based on who responded to another person's post because that's the type of person he is) He's a relatively famous gaming journalist so when someone links his messages I can't see them, right?
Well I can, I just open an incognito window, and I still get to see what ever he's posting, because when you aren't logged in you get to see everything.
So in that way Block doesn't really make a lot of sense. Limiting who can interact with you might needed, but limiting who can see what you post doesn't really.
There is still "Mute" which I use much more often to get rid of "Console war" crap, from my feed, but honestly I also just don't use "X" Because in general I haven't found it that useful, and feels like it's always been a massive time waster. If Elon is making other people realize that now, I'd say he's doing a great job in waking up people to the fact that it's always been a pretty shitty social media.
Don't know the rules (They probably keep changing) but you can see it here in incognito mode.
Even if that was the case, I'd make an alt account no one knows about to be able to look at his tweets if I cared enough. The point I was making it is it's dumb to "Block what people can see" when they can get around it with a couple button clicks.
(And to be clear because I'm getting downvoting, I'm not saying blocking is bad, but the implementation is pretty dumb, and at least removing the "You can't see this message because he blocked you" should be removed.)
Also, can we stop polluting the tech comms with this crap? Why are people posting this stuff here again? We were perfectly fine for awhile with no musk Twitter shit posts.
Just block it. Wait, no, that "feature" makes no sense.
Non-shitpost: I know everyone is annoyed by now, but Ex-Twitter is a huge website and relevant?
Relevant to what?
This conversation has had is back and forth far too many times. Twitter spam is not relevant to technology news. Him not blocking people has no barring on any form of new tech. It belongs in the ![email protected] comms, that's why that was created.
It became a platform in which the whole world communicated about anything and everything. Maybe it still is to an extent, but knocking down the world's platform plank by plank isn't an absurd thing to write about
I absolutely agree.
That doesn't mean its had anything to do with technology. A business comm or the above mentioned spam community would be a better fit.
But like I said earlier that has been discussed a million times already. I'm not discussing it anymore.
The Fediverse is already fractured and niche, are you saying that someone should fine the perfect 36 user community, that only those subscribers are knowledgeable about, to post this to? Or perhaps news about the global platform might be relevant in the largest technology community?
2 years ago Twitter was where news broke, now it is where we get to watch a billionaire go broke in real time.
If it bothers you so much, block all mentions of the platform, person, etc.
You're right. Why bother having separate communities for different subjects and interests? That's just stupid. How silly of us.
I think you meant ![email protected], right?
I agree with you. Personally I like seeing the meltdown without having to actually visit the site. Same reason I appreciate seeing how Reddit has gone full Digg4.0 but haven't visited the site since the 3rd Party Apps died.
This is/has a significant impact on technology and media.
It isn't relevant to the billions of people who don't use Twitter. At this point it's just celebrity schadenfreude.
Not to be an idiot - but where should people post this stuff? I mean, I do find it interesting occasionally, and like to see what other's think, not so much complaining that it was posted at all.
![email protected]
Twitter is a tech company like it or not.
Social media, isn't it? That's not really tech or everything on the internet is tech.
Twitter is kind of turning into the opposite of a tech company, none of their choices are based on technology
The Comnect android app has a keyeord filter. Would seem easy enough to just put 'musk' inthere and unless you have an interest in muskies, muskrats, or some men's cologne lines it would filter things pretty cleanly.
Nah. I'd rather people posted relevant posts in comms.
But I didn't know about the keyword filter, that is cool to have available. Thanks!
It strikes me as wierd that you'd rather everyone else use the community the way you want it instead of just using a filter that makes it what you want it to be. Some people want to keep up with these things without following communities desicated to musk and they don't have to agree to use this conmunity exactly the way you want it to be used.
Yeah, that's me deciding everything on every comm. You got me.
Where did they say "everything on every comm"?
Oh look, reddit arrived
It's gotten to the point where I've even blocked the communities that are supposed to be making light of the fact that there's too much musk spam.. because I'm tired of all the musk spam...
Hrs irrelevant and nobody can change my mind. He can fuck right off idc.
YES PLEASE. I fucking swear it genuinely feels like about 15% of the posts here are about Elon.
People need to ignore this prick and move on with their lives
I love Elon though! He is so smart with business!!🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
It's crazy that this could be genuine praise or scathing satire, exactly as it is written.
Those are the eagles coming to drop you into Mt. Doom.
Twitter. stopped existing a long time ago, when it was bought out and gutted. It's the gathering place of fascists now.
Not for as long as it's relevant to hundreds of millions of people.
But I would agree that "Elon says he's going to do it" is not much of news until it actually happens.
I’m ok with drawing attention to this stuff. Every time more Twitter shit hits the news, Fediverse apps get another boost of users.
I down vote any post on here that mentions X, Twitter, or Elon, usually without even reading them. I made an exception to post this reply, but did down vote the OP.
I upvoted this post and then out of respect downvoted it.
Well played
I’d love to know who actually has this honor - I would guess Trump myself, but Elmu is a good guess too
“Let me agitate my potato in peace, for crissake”
Whatch out for Mr Massive Tuber here! Mines is like a cashew, a small one.
The infamous cheese wheel.
If you scrape of the headcheese you fuck up the mushroom harvest.
He'll just ban the account instead, now. Maybe even say that it would be a block, but "that makes no sense".
#Everyone must listen to me!
Literally every single day we have idiots doing Musk's PR work for free.
Downvote Musk spam. The billionaire doesn't need your help making sure his businesses stay in the 24 hour news cycle.
You think being inevitably forced to see every bit of harassment and spam is going to make that platform more popular and financially viable? Nah, if anything this is free advertising for Mastodon.
How does mastodon work compared to twitter? I keep hearing about it but I'm still trying to figure out lemmy.
Firefish is another fediverse microblogging platform and it has search and quote tweets, but you can't follow hashtags in your regular timeline (you can set up a separate timeline called an antenna that regularly pulls in posts according to a list of words or hashtags you specify). It also has a tweet deck style layout you can setup and you can easily follow and be followed by mastodon users from a firefish account.
There are other alternatives as well, but this is the one I am most familiar with.
In the same way lemmy is like many reddits communicating with eachother; mastodon is comparable to many twitters that can share users and posts with eachother
It's very similar to Twitter, I'd say even more than Lemmy is to Reddit. Mastodon federated like Lemmy but in practice you can follow anyone from any instance. You just need to follow people using @[email protected] rather than just @username
Mastodon "block" is one-way, Twitter is two-way (it blocks the other person seeing your posts if they're logged in).
Yeah, but every time these stories blow up, Mastodon, Threads, and BlueSky gets another user base boost. I’m ok with that. These stories keep making the alternative communities more and more viable.
I agree, he seems unwell and the attention is continuing the negative spiral. Unfortunately, I don't think we can control what people are interested in. This is a total spectacle and media circus
I have him blocked. It's my fault. He noticed and now he is going to axe the whole feature
This is PRECISELY the reason. He fired a lead engineer who told him they can't control how many people engage with his tweets. So he made it so that EVERYONE gets to see his tweets in their feed. Queue mass blocking of him and now he's upset.
Lol oh my god, I think you’re 100% on the ball with that hypothesis. I honestly can’t think of a better explanation, and it absolutely fits with his narcissistic neuroses.
I mean… I’m willing to fight this fight if he wants to play it that way. I’d be more than happy to make a lot more heinous troll accounts to spam him with, and I’m willing to bet that a lot of other people feel the same way.
I bet a ton of users blocked him that day he messed with the algorithm so much he was boosted into feeds that didn't even follow him.
Damn it, uwe. This is why we can't have nice things.
Probably gets hourly updates on followers, blockers, views etc.
He's going to be able to harass everyone that had blocked him.
I bet he will still be able to block users without them knowing too
When you can pay to win, to always have the last word... He'll let them know.
Next, deleting your account gets axed. Feature makes no sense.
That would be a "Getting nuked from orbit by EU" speedrun.
Immediately causing a shit storm from at least the EU, the UK, and California.
He wants shitbag, astroturf, conservative, fascist “personalities” to be able to respond to and every prominent non-fascist post where they can be promoted to the top of the replies.
As a bonus, it will also help the astroturfing oil companies better kill environmental efforts.
Maybe he wants to get rid off the somewhat smart people on Twitter so the rest can be easily radicalized with the intend that they vote against their interest and for the interests of rich people?
I'd say it's either that or he wants greater reach to feed his narcism.
So... Wait.
This means someone can just @ someone else and destroy their feed with hate or dick pics or whatever?!
Mr. "assassination coordinates" said he was going to live stream driving to Zucks house to fight him, which would effectively doxx Zuck. Expecting logical consistency is silly.
He's started asking for driver's licenses now so maybe he's gonna dox people
Sounds like people should start setting up nasty ass porn bots and have them spam Musk constantly
Ooooooh I've been looking for a self hosted project like that
What I suspect will happen is that Musk cronies will be free to harass anyone they want, but anyone harassing Musk or one of this cronies will be banned.
Yep, I think so. And “someone else” includes Elon.
Do with that information what you will :D
Yes, that's the goal.
How does mute work?
Blue checks will complain about it, then want a feature to get around that.
Complain about mute? How will they know they have been muted?
what's the difference between block and mute? Block just lets them not see your feed and notifies them of this, but mute just hides anything they post from you?
Muting people that harass you instead of blocking them enable them to just spam libel about you onto your posts, which can have other effects. At least with blocking, they can't just do it on your actual posts.
Yeah, insane. it lets them see your stuff and also @ you to other people.
smh.
If you mute someone, you don't see their posts. They don't get any notification that you have muted them. It's the same as blocking but they don't know they are blocked.
Blocking is a step up from muting. Muting just makes it so you don't see the muted users' posts and comments. Blocking makes it so that the blocked user is muted, plus they cannot see any of your posts and comments. Blocked users also cannot @ you.
Blocking lets them know they need to make another account to continue to harass you.
Something most won't do because it requires more time and effort on their part. Plus, blocking alt accounts is super quick and easy.
They will if they hate you enough.
Muted accounts can't @ you either.
The only difference between block and mute is that your are informing them they are blocked, prompting them to make an alt so that they can keep doing shit.
Incorrect. I'd already explained the differences to you in another post.
Thanks for the correction. I thought it was different at some point, but to be fair I haven't used Twitter in many years now. I just assumed it was still similar to how most other apps handle it.
It is different, he's just being dishonest.
If you block someone else on Twitter, they can't even see your profile at all (muting still allows them to see your profile and interact with everything you post or retweet). Sure, it tells them they're blocked, but this also means they can't interact with anything you post at all. If they want too, they'll either have to make an alt account (someone most are too lazy to do) or ask fellow toxic assholes to screenshot your posts for them to see.
Muting is useless when dealing with harassers. It's why the block feature was added; because minority communities begged for it.
Even better they can spam literal child porn at you because of "outrage" and youll get a exec from Twitter defending you to parliament!
"it makes no sense" literally every social media site in existence has the block feature, and the reason is to help people prevent harassment. Elon is like a fucking toddler, it's obvious he just wants to get rid of blocking because he's pissy about being blocked by other people.
The block "feature" is a required tool for being listed on the Google and Apple stores, among others.
Removing it will get Twitter delisted from them as well.
Just stop using Twitter. It's easy.
I mean it's literally in the terms and conditions of both the App Store and Play Store for social media to have a block button lol
This is incredibly consistent with the "free speech" crowd thinking free speech entitles you to an audience.
Unreal. It's not even incompetence, he really is just tanking the site on purpose.
The block feature is not there out of the goodness of their CEO's heart.
It is there to limit liability from harassment. After all, why police harassment laws at your expense. When you can get the end user to enforce it for you.
It's just Dumb evil.
It's also a feature explicitly required by both the Apple and Google app stores for apps that have user generated content.
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/
https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9876937?hl=en
Every day he further proves that he has no idea what he's doing. He's 100% going to reverse this decision when he find out all of the things he should have know before saying anything.
Lmao he’s gonna get himself booted from BOTH app stores 😂
I can see him choosing to leave the app stores like epic did just to dodge the 30% cut. And of course he will put on a bunch of theatre about "free speech" if they do unlist Twitter.
But he charges $8 a month for free speech.
Is this real? That’s hilarious.
It's chaotic good, because by destroying his platform, he is making the fedi grow. Surely there has to be a point where people will leave, right?
Did people stop using centralised services after all the data breaches and privacy scandals?
Not when there are no decentralized services to turn to.
This is so dumb, what is he thinking? What's the angle?
Dumbness aside, Twitter is only usable if you block all of the blue check spammers who add nothing to any discussion.
Maybe he's doing it so you can't block blue checks? But it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
I half wonder if he is running an experiment to see how much his users are willing to put up with so that all the other tech companies can figure out how far they can push us.
It's been non-stop advanced bullshit after bullshit coming out of basically all corpos for the past year, but things were always headed in this direction. Muskrat just helped speed things along. The silver lining in all of this is the Fediverse and other platforms are finally popping off. Hopefully that trend gains more momentum and big tech dies before we end up further into a future we don't want to be in.
I think it’s that and ads. Easier to sell promotional stuff when the whole user base is simply incapable of hiding your shill posts.
This but his goal is to find the line and step over it, not toe it. He didn't like Twitter being a liberal leaning platform that pushed extreme conservatives out so he's reversing that. The only nuance he's using is to do it slowly enough that there's still libs to pwn on his platform over the rather than having them all leave at once. Plus if he can chase them away rather than ban them, he can claim to be more about free speech. But this is all about suppressing opinions he doesn't like, with an added bonus that he can ban people for not loving him.
in the next iteration he’ll make it so you can only block people who don’t have twitter blue
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This is pretty wise, I think. I do believe you have figured out the reason, or at least part of the reason. Driving up rage engagement!
People can't block him anymore, no more hiding from his opinions
That’s what I was thinking. Either a specific person blocked him that he got upset about or the amount of people that have him blocked upset him. Either way it’s personal and he’s throwing a tantrum like a toddler. Again.
I'd guess that he wants to control what people see for one reason or another. I blocked a lot of communities here to make my feed more enjoyable.
Less work needed to maintain the system? He fired most engineers, those remaining can only do so much at one time.
What's there to maintain, the feature is already there and should be relatively simple. I can't imagine that Twitter backend is so bad that it requires active work on all components.
Lmao this is going to be incredible to watch unfold. I am assuming Elon himself has blocked an absolute fuckton of accounts that are just out to troll him, so either he’s gonna (rightly) get absolutely inundated by trolls, or he’s gonna make the devs disable it for everyone except him and whoever else he wants to give that feature to.
yeah, elon's not going to see the negative consequences of this personally, because he'll just use the "ban" button instead of the "block" button.
I’m betting I can reverse engineer how to create spam accounts in a mostly automated fashion faster than he can ban accounts. And I bet a lot of other people can do the same.
I feel very confident saying that he’s not gonna win this one.
Yup. X makes no sense. Please delete it.
That is exactly what he wants Twitter to be.
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It always was. Some just thought it was worth it to brave the abuse to get the message out.
That's what people have been saying about every step of the musk acquisition process and yet still people use Twitter. Thinking back to the Facebook privacy controversy years back, everybody still uses Facebook. There can be an infinite amount of red flags and warnings, but these websites are such a huge part of some people's lives that none of it matters to them, unfortunately.
I don't know a single person under 20 that uses Facebook. It's either paid groups or old people.
Facebook has basically become irrelevant for any discourse outside of "the olds are being radicalized by it"
That's good. Let it die, shut it down.
Will I be safe if I'm two of those things? Like if I'm a cis-het autistic sex-worker, will it be a double negative and cancel out?
Edit: I was just trying to make a silly joke. I didn't mean to upset anyone
bro wtf are u on
I caught that it was a silly joke and got a little kick out of it. I'm not sure why other people reacted the way they did. Maybe they thought you were mocking or making fun? I dunno.
Lay off the crack man
I cant wait for Twitter/X to cease to exist.
“Mr. Billionaire Tech Company CEO, what was your detailed reasoning for the removal of a highly important feature that benefits way more users than the ones it harms?”
“It makes no sense”
Hasn't Elon blocked people before tho? And even been public when blocking some people?
Huh, I have never been a fan of blocking people, but this is a very dumb move, normal Twitter news of course.
Just when you think he's run out of stupid decisions to make, he does it again.
He'll make it a premium feature
He is actually, seriously saying "I don't get it, so it must be bad/unnecessary"
His ego can't handle that he's probably the most blocked person on Twitter
Agree, I think that's probably the driving force behind this. He can't troll most people anymore because any even remotely sane person (who's still on Twitter for some reason) has blocked him. Musk lives to troll, so it must drive him absolutely crazy.
I recommend just blocking the entirely of Xwitter. Your life will be better off.
Xitter*
pronounced as "shitter"
The X is pronounced as a Sh
Is this man actually retarded or is he trolling us? Seems like he's intentionally shitting on Twitter
He is really attempting to run it into the ground isn't he?
This is going to get buried, but I think it's important to note that block on twitter (unlike on most platforms) works both ways. You can still mute an account, and you won't see any of their content or mentions.
By removing block, it means you can no longer block a person from following you, but you can still prevent seeing their stuff. After all - all that person has to do see your public tweets is open an incognito browser window, and view your profile. If you have a private profile, none of this applies to begin with. So in that sense, I agree with Elon - block in its current form on twitter makes no sense.
Edit: Responding directly onto your posts - good point, I hadn't considered that. It's partially circumvented by changing the setting so can comment on your posts, but I agree that's more effort. For all the other things though - if you block someone now they can just take a screenshot of your tweet and comment on that.
Pretty sure you have to sign in, or will very soon.
And people can likely still retweet, you just won't see it.
So Ben Shapiro can still retweet everything AOC says to "slam" her, and only the people who haven't muted him (his fans) can circlejerk and post harassing replies. She just wouldn't see it.
Block also blocks them from seeing your posts and responding to them. Which is valuable. I don’t want people to creep on my profile if I’ve blocked them.
I use mute to get people who tweet in the wrong language off my timeline.
I deleted my twitter so I guess it’s not my problem now
Fair enough. I never used the algorithm timeline that inserts strangers into your stream so that was never an issue for me. Just the people I follow, chronologically, for me. Whether I block them or not, people who really want to would still be able to read my tweets. Blocking them just gives them more acknowledgement than they deserve.
I haven't deleted mine yet, but I only seldom check it. Left this video as a pinned post though, it might inspire some people to quit as well.
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Lmao this is overlooking the most important part of the block feature. Without the Block feature spammers, scammers, and crazies can destroy anyones posts by filling it with dick pics, scams, gore, anything. Blocks prevent people from posting on your posts.
Pretty sure they'd only destroy their own account with that - they'd be 1 report away from being banned. If none of your followers were to report it, it's probably time to cancel your account.
They still can comment on your stuff and create hate bandwagons. This is actually pretty common.
As long as mute still gets their posts out of my feed it's all fine by me I guess. I can't figure out what's the downside here. I couldn't care less if the people I've muted can see my profile or not. Preventing individual users from accessing your profile is kind of petty to be honest.
Such an incredibly stupid idea
You’re going to hear his dumb thoughts whether you want to or not.
Musk is intentionally killing twitter confirmed. First he tried to tank its value and retract his buy offer but was forced in to the purchase by the SEC. So now he's just playing the long game by killing it step by step with his own hands.
Why couldn't he just shut it down if he wanted to? What's the purpose of wasting that much money slowly?
Unless that’s exactly what they wanted. Keep in mind that people have used twitter to mobilize against oppression all over the world. The people in power could definitely be seen to benefit from its destruction. But it won’t matter, people will find other platforms to mobilize on if twitter doesn’t work for them.
If he shut it down then the masses would flood to a handful of new options and a replacement would emerge in a week or two.
By dragging it out, it slows that down.
Also, if he shut it down, he'd get a week or two of headlines. This way he can milk a year of it.
Attention!
Really its just devolving into a fascinating experiment in how much momentum it requires people to leave a platform en masse in 2023.
Maybe his 4D chess move is trying to push everyone to federated apps, what a great guy!
He hated twitter for how effective it was in spreading awareness on progressive issues. Him and all the other billionaires want that platform split up, and it only costs him $44b, a fraction of his net worth.
He wants to turn it into Stormfront.
I am so glad I ditched twitter when Musk took over. Blocking abusive people is a critical function on that cesspool of a social medium.
He was probably the most blocked user on Twitter
I think this is what's gonna finally end it for Twitter. There has already been a huge increase in harassment/hate, and if people can't block other users spewing that shit, they will actually leave this time
He's probably having a fit over everyone blocking him from their feeds
Holy shit. The block feature was the only function that actually worked when dealing with trolls and assholes.
Remove that feature, and the remaining Queer and POC communities are going to be forced off the platform due to the abuse they will not be able to block.
I suspect this is mainly because people with the Blue checks keep crying about getting blocked.
Working as intended. Musk isn't half as smart as he thinks he is, but he's still not stupid enough to think it will play out any way.
He wants to ensure far-right voices are heard and that any opposition to them is bullied off the platform.
There is no need to give him the benefit of the doubt just because he doesn't admit it out loud. Actions speak louder than words and every action he has taken has pandered to the far-right.
Agreed. Twitter will just be another extreme right shithole.
It's such a shame. Twitter has been around for so long and had been vital for many peoples careers and connections. I hate what he's done with it. =(
I blocked elon musk long time ago...
I havnt logged into twitter since he bought it though. Cant remember if i dleeted my user
So no one will be able to stop the firehose of neonazi propaganda?
Advertisers loving that?
Blocking makes perfect sense
This is hardly about technology now is it?
It never was 🌎 👩🚀🔫👩🚀
That's why I deleted my Twitter. It makes no sense.
I hope that when someone inevitably kills themselves from online bullying, that Twitter and Musk gave massive legal repercussions.
No. Making platforms liable for what people do with them is bad for the entire Internet and for everyone.
Touch grass
Too busy touching ass my guy the grass can wait
you're not even who they were talking to lol
Neither am I
I'm very self centered
I wonder when he says “it makes no sense” if he is just confused by the complexity of it. Because blocking is more complicated than it might seem at first. It introduces issues where different people see different versions of things, and in some ways blocking can be a little like choosing to put your head in the sand regarding someone, but they can still be around, flinging shit at you.
"I'm tired of people blocking me"
Wait did I say that or just think that?
"Wait did I say that or just think that??"
Oh HeyThisIsn'TheYMCA You need more horse stewardesses
Yet another reason to be glad I quit using it in October 2022.
There's no good reason to make people interact with people who are bothering them.
I need to block like 5 bot follows and three fake crypto impersonation accounts including me in a retweet daily. This would break the experience completely for me.
Block makes sense. He knows it makes no sense to remove it. Block has existed on the internet long enough to assume this is completely malicious intent.
Like I flatout refuse to assume he removed a feature used literally everywhere else without ulterior motive. This is just to allow for bad actors to continue to voice themselves without any prevention tools.
Yeah, it's literally "You're going to be forced to consume content you don't want to" and "People wil now be able to harass you publicly."
You can mute people you don't want to see posts from instead.
Why isn't the mute function enough?
I actually never understood why the block function existed, it clearly told the account you blocked that you have blocked them, prompting them to create an alt.
Mute is like shadowban, you won't ever see them and they believe that you can see them.
Blocking stops the assholes from interacting with your own tweets entirely. Sure, they can make an alt to get around that, but that's more work for them. Blocking is simple and quick.
Mute was never good enough because it still allowed assholes to interact with your tweets.
Source: Queer lady that had to block people in order to Twitter to not be trash before Elon bought it.
Interact how? You will never see anything they do.
Doesn't matter if you can't see it; what matters if if THEY can interact with a tweet. That's why the block and mute features are different and why block is superior.
Abusers on Twitter love getting around being muted by interacting with their victims tweets, and finding ways to make their victim see what they're doing. It's why the block feature was implemented in the first place.
Can the abuser find ways around being blocked? Sure, but it requires more work on their part, and most don't bother going that far. But for their victims, blocking is quick and easy.
And from reading some of the responses in this thread, it's obvious to me that some of you never had to deal with being harassed on Twitter; the block feature is absolutely vital. Without it, Twitter is 100% done for. (Though one could argue it's ruined already, cause Musk, but whatever).
Everyone says muted accounts can "interact" with ones tweets but no one can inform me in what way.
How can muted accounts make so that you see what their doing?
By encouraging fellow trolls/assholes to quote, reply and retweet your tweets so you're forced to see them. Also, someone that is muted can still personally reply, quote and retweet your tweets as well; you just won't see it, not unless they find a way around it (as I already described how). Toxic assholes always find away around mute features because it's garbage and isn't useful at all.
If you still can't figure out why removing the block feature will be devastating for a significant portion of Twitters user-base, than you're either acting in bad faith, obtuse, or one of the very toxic assholes that will be thrilled to see blocking removed.
Edit: Oh and one final thing; Lemmy has a block feature. Anymore ridiculous responses from you will result in just that. I can't take anything you say on this topic seriously anymore.
Doesn’t mute allow them to see your posts still?
Why does that matter at all?
Because maybe victims don't want their harassers seeing or interacting with their tweets at all????????????
Why does it matter if a harasser sees your tweets? How can they interact with the tweets when muted?
By replying, quoting and retweeting. However, if they're blocked, they can't do that without putting extra effort (such as making an alt account).
Are you being serious or are you really just that obtuse? It's so damn painfully obvious you've never been seriously harassed on social media.
Because maybe you don’t want someone to see your posts on their feed?
Then don't put it up on the internet
i have like 500 people in my Twitter block list :|
You could argue against creating the feature, but once it already exists and it's not taking up any real processing power or cluttering the interface, why would you ever remove any feature. Does he understand it? No. Do some people use it and find it beneficial? Probably, yeah. Are you forced to use it? No. So what's the problem?
It's like a car manufacturer ordering a recall to remove the the mirror on the passenger side visor because he never uses it. Some people do, my dude, it's not hurting anything, and it will actually cost you money to remove it instead of leaving it. Just leave it alone, dude.
Or... he's not being honest and he wants to remove it because it hurts his ego to know that so many block his account. Yeah, it's probably that.
Yea no way that's happening. The guy can get away with a lot but burning the entire app to the ground probably has a few legal safeguards.
This is what it sounds like when a severely divorced person screams, "WHY WON'T THIS FUCKING COMPANY FAIL!!! I'M DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO ELIMINATE THIS THREAT AND IT WON'T DIE!"
He literally bought it to try to make a payment processor and be king of the internet.
Only twitter users think twitter is important.
'You'll listen to nazi propaganda even if we have to shove it down your throat!'
Musk probably
I truly can't imagine how this is true. It's such a simple thing to understand.
Don't most app stores have terms and conditions that require social media websites to have actual functional block features? Having them only work for DMs doesn't feel very functional...
Imagine if Elon was playing a long con game and is actually trying to kill Twitter on purpose by disguising himself as the rest of the Republicans in support of them.
Like this "10 dimensional chess" game is him actually just doing the most mundane and simple changes to kill the platform intentionally.
Everytime I think the platform can't get any worse this guy proves me wrong the next week.
Probably spelled "cents" incorrectly.
I'm sure this will will end
wellI expect he just found out he's the most blocked person on the platform.
probably this is bc of people blocking blue checked people as protest
Shit won't fly because of some App Store/Play Store policies lol
I would have given two fucks about this if I was still on Xitter.
He blocked himself people and now he is pretending that's its a non sens....
All i know is mastodon better be ready for a fresh batch of twitter refugees washing up on the shores of the fediverse as well as bluesky all so f meta nobody go there
As I only used Twitter to troll right wingers, this change might bring me back.
Perfect opportunity for the Hexbear brigade.
ITT: "Blocking isn't a necessary feature, specifically because I do not get harassed." Also: "Because you COULD just make an alt, take the time to make a fake email, and even potentially be required to have a fake ID in the future, muting and blocking are LITERALLY the same thing"
Any disincentive is one more step some spineless bastard has to go through to harass you, even if there are work arounds.
Elon Musk: world renowned expert of what does and does not make sense.
Is he on fucking meth?
i’d bet money he takes stimulants. not on which specific one(s) tho.
He's rich, so if I had to bet I'd say it's cocaine.
pretty logical guess. wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
I thought he was relying to his own Tweet
This is not a good idea. If you are a troll, you must love this a lot.
I really hope they don't go back on this because it's really going to damage their bottom line and I have popcorn to eat
I'll bet a buffalo nickel that this is so Musk can guarantee eyeballs on ads.
Arg: expected eyeballs on ads not 100% because blocking. This shiny new 'X' will guarantee 100%.
Tinfoil: If he can disrupt B2B on ads and seize more marketing market share, he looks like a genius and gets to add a payment feature to X. I don't think he's very creative and will just remake PayPal with a fuckton of extra steps.
I'm kind of tired of hearing about what this dummy is up to. He's very rich. But clearly very dumb. He took emerald mine money and lucked his way into some good investments. Bought his way into Tesla and pretends to be very smart.
Thats not to say every idea he has had is bad. But he is clearly not a smart man overall.
He's the riches man on the planet only because he lucked out with the emerald mine and a couple investments?
I get you people don't like the guy but these comments can get a bit ridiculous. He has some quite obvious flaws but if he's not one of the most significant people of our time then I don't know who is.
Yes and he is good at riding the hype cycle. Thats about it.
How else would a child of apartheid Africa get the apartheid message out to the world in 2023? Of course you have to disable the block feature.
Can we defederate from Twitter/X already?
The only reason I regret deleting my twitter account is because now I can’t tell Elon how fucking idiotic these decisions are.
That's the quickest way to delete your account
I kept tweeting at him to kill himself and was given several 2 week bans and never a full one. I'm about to give up and just delete my account.
What could possibly go wrong.
So he’s pulling an Elon again.
Who are these people giving hearts and likes for removing features? :)
This year's module content on social media is going to be an absolute cracker.
I don't even need to write jokes into my classes, the man does it for me!
If this happens, I'll be deleting my account. I don't care, that the few VTubers I was still engaging with are still there, and haven't jumped over Mastodon, Misskey, etc.
🎶X gon' take it from you!🎶
Even if it really didn't make sense, wouldn't it be more sensible to... Idk... Just leave it alone and not spend the time to get rid of it? Lol
I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he took over, but it's clear that he's completely mental.
The original owners of Twitter were forever fixing what wasn't broken, but this guy is acting like he's got a new Stretch Armstrong toy and wants to see how far he can stretch it before it breaks.
I wonder what Twitter is going to Musk up next?
I'm going to be excited to see how this plays out with legal controls.
That being said removing block isn't necessarily a terrible idea if you plan to expand what your privacy controls are.
You should be able to restrict who can see your content. If they take away that aspect, that would be hilarious and ridiculous.
We'll see how it all plays out
Brands block trolls all the time.
well ya. musk paid a lot of money to those blue checks posting CSAM. what's the point if you can just block the pedos?
Twitter is gab 4, parler is 2, and truth is 3
Yeah sensible but they should allow to not show on the home feed for a profile
Just when I thought that he can't do anything dumber than the name change or paid verifications…
Yeah, being able to deny communications to people makes no sense. What is harassment?
If you're still using Twitter, not only are you part of the problem, you like the abuse.
...why???
When does this take place? I just looked at my hosts file and the lines
::1 twitter.com::1 www.twitter.comare still there??
YMS wins against Daddy Derek now!
I think if Hex isn't willing to deal with their "minority" of trolls/hateful users, then I think banning their server is justified. I don't want to punish the majority(?) but I don't know why we should have to deal with their toxic users when our servers wouldn't allow those kinds of users.
Cool
He's got a point. It's kinda weird how I can just block every advert I see. But also super weird to not be able to block dingleberries either.
I dont understand why regulars are so mad. He literally owns twitter. He can do whatever he wants to do with it. Regulars dont have to engage , if you dont like it , leave. Its that simple.
I dont use twitter myself but regulars going crazy about all these stunts doesnt make any sense.
I own a white Toyota and I paint it red. Nobody can do anything about it because I own the Toyota. Same is the case with twitter .
While removing it is stupid, I also think it's a limited feature. I am blocked by Jason Schreier like many people in gaming culture are. (I didn't even comment on his post, but he did a mass block based on who responded to another person's post because that's the type of person he is) He's a relatively famous gaming journalist so when someone links his messages I can't see them, right?
Well I can, I just open an incognito window, and I still get to see what ever he's posting, because when you aren't logged in you get to see everything.
So in that way Block doesn't really make a lot of sense. Limiting who can interact with you might needed, but limiting who can see what you post doesn't really.
There is still "Mute" which I use much more often to get rid of "Console war" crap, from my feed, but honestly I also just don't use "X" Because in general I haven't found it that useful, and feels like it's always been a massive time waster. If Elon is making other people realize that now, I'd say he's doing a great job in waking up people to the fact that it's always been a pretty shitty social media.
I think you have to be logged in to view a person's feed now though.
Don't know the rules (They probably keep changing) but you can see it here in incognito mode.
Even if that was the case, I'd make an alt account no one knows about to be able to look at his tweets if I cared enough. The point I was making it is it's dumb to "Block what people can see" when they can get around it with a couple button clicks.
(And to be clear because I'm getting downvoting, I'm not saying blocking is bad, but the implementation is pretty dumb, and at least removing the "You can't see this message because he blocked you" should be removed.)
I agree. I always thought it was stupid that you could stop people from seeing what you post about them on a public forum.
Have you ever muted someone? Posting shit about someone behind a block can also be considered harassment.
by dummies, yes. so is gossiping a felony in your book?