Spyke
lemmy.ca

Wait, the Epstein list that definitely doesn't exist may have his name planted on it?

The goalposts have left the fucking stadium.

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wirebeadsreply
lemmy.ca

Those goal posts move faster than Trump at a child beauty pageants change room.

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Also, the Epstein list that definitely doesn't exist and may have had his name planted on it also says that Bill Clinton visited the island 28 times, and you can trust that number because he read it on the list which doesn't exist and if it does exist you can't trust what it says.

I never went to the island, and Bill Clinton went there supposedly 28 times

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lemmy.world

The files are real, I've got them on my desk

My enemies are named in the files.

I'm not going to release the files for people to see the context.

Nobody cares anyway we won't talk about it.

Ok everyone cares about it but the list doesn't actually exist

Okay it exists but all instances that mention me are fake <-- you are here

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lemmy.zip

In the words of Mr. miyagi " lie become truth only if people want to believe it"

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Next Up:

"We don't need to publish the files because Ghislaine testified the names of all the people I don't like."

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lemmy.world

That didn't happen.
"The files don't exist."

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
"It's just full of Democrats."

And if it was, that's not a big deal.
"Old news, move on already."

And if it is, that's not my fault.
"Somebody planted my name in it."

And if it was, I didn't mean it.
???

And if I did, you deserved it.
???

That last one is going to be a doozey.

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Re last one … they wanted to be models and make money, and Epstein made it happen… so they deserved being abused?

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We already know how the last one is gonna go. "If they didn't want to get raped they shouldn't be dressing so suggestively"

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lemmy.ca

"I thought the kids were all in college" or "I thought they were dolls"

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Maybe instead of thirty dolls, this year Donald only gets two, but they cost a bit more.

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Oooh, Oooh! Let me guess the last two!

Umm, something along the lines of "it was locker room talk." As in, "any guy in my position would have done the same."

And for the last one... "They were asking for it!" Like they don't think of the children as children, think of them as non-humans who were begging to be-

Ugh, this bit is too gross to continue.

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And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
???

I tripped and my egg-shaped penis accidentally went into her vagina. 137 times.

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It's very clear that he's on the list and that's not surprising. What's surprising is that out of all the people in these bureaus and government, not a single person is standing up and doing anything. It's unbelievable that there aren't and people with intrinsic good in them to fucking do something about this.

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

Last 10 years have really shown us how trash this country is, haven't they?

Americans aren't very smart. Americans are pretty weak.

Sad. But true.

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Americans invented the propaganda systems which have now eaten their brains. It is currently being trained on the rest of the world.

(They also warned us about those same propaganda systems, but we didn't care about that.)

Heads up.

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It's just a giant child sex trafficking ring you shouldn't take politics so seriously

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well, I'd like to be surprised that POTUS was visiting a rape island, but having observed Trump for nearly a decade it's entirely predictable that he would do that given the opportunity.

I think you could sort the members and supporters of his regime broadly into 3 categories:

  • there's the MAGA people who are on board because they're sick of the wokerati telling them what to do. They're not really "engaged" with the politics. These are the "leopards ate my face" types.
  • there's the apathetic conservatives who are trying not to look too closely, don't necessarily like Trump, but support conservative policies and aren't going to oppose him.
  • then there's the active supporters like the FBI agents reviewing the files or republicans voting not to release them. They're complicit for their own benefit.
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I think there's a fourth category, which is people who are keeping quiet for their own health. If you blew the whistle, how long do you truly believe you'd remain anonymous? Even if you moved to a foreign country right afterwards, how long do you think you'd stay alive? You have a highly narcissistic man in control of one of the most complex and far-reaching systems of surveillance ever built, and that man is HIGHLY invested in keeping his secrets - and failing that, he's never been above making examples. Don't forget Trump worked with the Mob, likely the Russian Mafia, and came of age in the tail end of the era where blowing the whistle on the wrong person in NY could very well end with you getting a lead injection from a very Italian man.

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lemmy.org

I just fucked some child and then, believe it or not, i was suddenly on the list. I barely even knew that Jeffrey guy

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Probably some democrat planted trump’s penis inside that child.

Sorry, I meant those children

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lemmy.world

He sure is saying a lot of things that aren't, "it is patently false that I fuck children."

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Well you'd think the Justice Department of the United States of America would be interested in- ahAHHAhahahahaha . . . ahhh. . . snif . . ehhhh..

I'm tired, boss.

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lemmy.ca

A ha, he knows his name is in there and is trying to cover his tracks

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lemmy.world

They don't exist.
Okay they exist, but I'm not in them.
√Okay I'm in them but it's a forgery.
So what if I'm really in them?
Anyone who isn't in them an enemy of the state.

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Ah yes, his name was planted in the files by his political enemies to defame him and then they kept the files secret for years to make the frame-job extra believable. Very credible story, no notes.

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lemmy.today

Anyone who believes Trump "Hasn't been interested" in whether his name is on the list or not...

Anyone who believes lifelong Republican and Trump Collaborator J. Comey can see the future...

Anyone who believes that the Biden administration went through the trouble of doctoring evidence to set up Trump just in case he was elected in the future and pressured to release the files...

Anyone who believes that he hasn't already decided to pardon Ghislaine Maxwell in exchange for her compiling a list of 100 of Trumps enemies...

Is a fucking idiot, even by MAGAt standards, and that's already as low of a bar as it's possible to have.

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lemmy.world

MAGA still believes MILLIONS of votes for Biden were from migrants bused in from Mexico.

If you took all the busses in the entirety of the USA, and used them at once, you could, at most, be able to transport 800,000 people.

And that's if all the busses in the US were doing it at once. Something that would certainly be noticed.

MAGA are just dilusional. Unfortunately, nothing based in reality can change that.

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That's really, really stupid, but even that isn't as dumb as "There is no list, and if there is a list I'm not on it, and if I am on it it's Biden's fault, and if there's proof I'm a pedo it's a hoax, and I haven't even thought of pardoning Maxwell, but I totally could, and If I do it's not because she produced a bogus list that I'm not on but all my enemies are."

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vorticreply
lemmy.world

I don't like Trump and I'm positive there weren't millions bussed from Mexico to vote. I also don't like disinformation.

Just looking at school busses, there are approximately 480,000 school busses in the US. Enough to carry 10-30 million people at once, depending on average bus size

I don't have time to dig deeper, but im sure there are enough city busses in the US to carry a few million more.

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Ah. It's not disinformation. I wasn't going off figures of public school buses that in no way could be rented. I was going off the amount of busses in service for private operation.

There are approximately 66,180 revenue vehicles available for maximum service in the public transit sector of the United States. 

From the transit authority database: https://www.transit.dot.gov/ntd

Which based on your math is enough to carry 800k to 2.4 million at once if used to maximum capacity (and depending on bus size).

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I was going to say that those school buses all would have been busy transporting children on election day, but then I remembered that most schools are used as polling places and thus the buses would have been free. However, I am a school bus driver myself and I probably would have remembered being told to drive to Mexico (from Philly!) and pick up a load of migrants.

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The fucking Biden crackheads of course! With the help of Muslim Obamas Kenyan relatives. Lock em up!

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lemmy.ca

Any article that begins with "Trump says" isn't worth reading.

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lemmy.world

Unfortunately, it is. Gotta find out who Trump is trying to fuck or kill so that we can make big enough of a stink to protect them.

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Swordgeekreply
lemmy.ca

I get your point, but, no.

Finding out who he's planning on damaging is important. But an article that starts with "Trump says..." is already too conciliatory.

Every article reporting Trump's insanity should be written appropriately: "In full damage-control mode Trump tries to pretend his name may have been planted in Epstein files."

"Trump violates the constitution again, in claim that..."

"Despite ruling from superior court judge, Trump pushes ahead with illegal kidnappings."

This is what the media needs to do, and every time they don't, it's a failure that doesn't deserve our attention.

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Oh yes, you're talking about the media's constant need to sane-wash America's first dictator. You're 100% correct there.

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Yup.

I haven't even watched Trump speak since, I dunno, maybe 2019. It was around that time I realized there was literally no value in listening to anything that comes out of his mouth, on any medium.

He's a felon rapist thief traitor that must be stopped. Nothing else matters, certainly not anything he says.

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Don’t you just hate when you’re maliciously added to a giant scandal that you had nothing to do with? It’s always the ones that were perpetrated by a man that you knew for 15 years that described you as his only friend and that introduced you to your current wife.

Happens to me all the time too.

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MAGA, I gotta tell you, we all think you're dumb enough to believe this.

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MY "name" was Planted in Great American Jeffrey Epstein's Book that is a HOAX by OBAMALAMAREA! Thank "you" for your AttenTIon to this Matter!

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tburkholreply
lemmy.world

They will say that Biden had those files for 4 years. Anything could have happened.

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That isn't an irrelevant point. Not because Trump was falsely added to the Epstein files but because it's yet another angle the Biden DOJ could have taken to do something consequential about Trump. Instead they repeatedly stalled and chose to pursue only the most trivial of accusations with any real sense of urgency, apparently hoping that ignoring the problem would make it go away, or at least buy them some political goodwill. Now we're all stuck dealing with the fallout of treating a traitor with kid gloves.

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I am taking this as the official admission by Donald Trump that his name is in fact in the Epstein files, planted or not.

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MAGA literally cannot see that Trump is in the files. It's fucking mental gymnastics all day.

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donreply
lemmy.ca

We don’t, because we know he lies. Conservatives, however, are very well known for being incredibly gullible.

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"We were 'pals' for fifteen years and no one thought to mention it until the deep state decided to retroactively add my name. Just like how the FBI never catalogues the associates of any other person under criminal investigation."

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feddit.nl

Actual genius plan to weasel out of this...

Conspiracy theorists in your party obsess over pedophile related conspiracies (true and imaginary) so you use another conspiracy to get them back on your side...

They'll 100% eat this up for sure. All he needs to do is get Pam Rubber Stamp Bondi to provide some "evidence" that has a bunch of Democrats on it and this will all be over. Any connection to him can be dismissed as his favorite "witch hunt" and "fake documents."

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feddit.org

They’ll 100% eat this up for sure.

They’ll 100% eat up anything that comes out of him.

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This must be very close to how proscriptions were carried out in imperial Rome under emperors like Nero or Commodus.

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He'll just use the word "hoax" over and over.

Whole lotta dipshits in that party think that Russia is a "hoax". Weird how a lot of people went to prison over a "hoax". But we aren't talking about a party known for having rocket surgeons in their base...and their thought leaders are really good at saying things like "Russia Russia Russia" like their dear leader to reprogram the meat bags in their base.

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null_dotreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Oh man. Kinda triggered by this.

In my early 20s, (20 years ago) I became entangled with my first girlfriend. It was awful, but I somehow believed that relationships were about "making it work" which I interpreted to mean coping with whatever abuse.

She was a compulsive liar. I'd never encountered anything like that before.

I remember thinking that her lies were my fault because I'd asked her about something that she didn't want to tell the truth about. Wow, that was a trip.

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oh no not the struggle love with a narcissist. my condolences, I had an orbiter phase too. never go back, right? no cults, no main characters

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I thought you said that there were no Jeffrey Epstein files, Mr Presidon't. Which is it?

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If by planted you mean it was always there, then yes, now shut up you Orange Jackass.

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Given the way his enemies control all areas of the government and he is just a defenseless president who has put in most of the members of the courts and completely controls the party in power in congress and installed stooges into the top levels of every federal agency. Totally believable.

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