I was kind of surprised that they tried to astroturf here. Reddit probably has their back and they got too cocky.
The company has been associated with various controversies, facing criticism and boycotts over its marketing of baby formula as an alternative to breastfeeding in developing countries (where clean water may be scarce), its reliance on suppliers that use child labour in cocoa production, and its production and promotion of bottled water.
Nestlé is involved in many significant controversies due to Nestlé's reported use of
The company you seemed to be implying was astroturfing in the parent post when you said this and followed it up with a solid description of how shitty they are as a company.
I was kind of surprised that they tried to astroturf here.
I have some women coworkers and a couple of years ago they were sitting in the break room lamenting how hard it was to find formula. I naively asked them why they didn't breastfeed and they looked at me like I'd grown an extra head. It's absolutely astonishing that after 200 million years of successful breastfeeding (which even gives us our "mammal" name), a corporation was able to convince women that no, they should be feeding their babies with shit from a can made in factory.
So there shouldn't be a stigma around a mother paying or accepting donated milk from another lactating woman. But we're still at the stage where feeding a synthetic concoction made from a different species' breastmilk is okay, but saying another woman breastfeeds your baby would get you weird looks. Wet nurses used to be a thing!
Sure, but that's not the case with the vast majority of women who use formula. Nestle doesn't market this stuff as a product for women who can't breastfeed, they market it as something superior to breast milk in general.
Of note KitKats made in the US are made by Hershey, not Nestle. As I understand it's a legacy licencing deal and Nestle makes no money if you buy a US KitKat.
That being said Hershey's chocolate is what it is. American's are used to it, but it's not great.
Maybe that explains why the fancy Japanese KitKat flavors never live up to my imagination, despite Asian snacks and candy being generally superior (to my tastes) to similar western items.
Oh well, now I have a good reason to not bother trying them any more.
The ingredients of our original Smarties® rolls are: DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, CALCIUM STEARATE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, COLORS (RED 40 LAKE, YELLOW 5 LAKE, YELLOW 6 LAKE, BLUE 2 LAKE). They contain 25 calories per roll.
Also that sugar isn't good for the body, at least not for mine. I get rashes and a dry throat when i eat too much sugar. Fruit and vegetables put me in a good mood, but i try to reduce my unnecessary sugar intake anyways.
The two biggest things that are hard to will myself not to buy are Quick and Hot Pockets.
At least there are plenty of chocolate milk alternatives. I never see off-brand Hot Pockets :(
I can make my own but sometimes I just wanna grab a thing to nuke real quick. And I get bored of hotdogs. The closest thing I end up getting instead are pizza rolls. And those aren't the same.
Bibigo has pretty good microwavable dumplings and wantons, at least they're good to my unrefined American taste buds. I def like them more than hot dogs and hot pockets.
I don't know who their parent company is so it might be nestle too.
I've been boycotting Nestle for years and I still avoid them when I can, but these days if my only choices are Nestle or an American brand (Nestle is Swiss) I'll choose Nestle.
Nestle produces a lot of other things than sugar and fat. So much in fact that it's actually hard to completely avoid them. The point is that they are a terrible company who does bad things, so you should boycott them.
Also, people can indulge in sugar and fat if they want to.
Little edit on that past point because some people don't understand indulge doesn't always mean over indulge, or they outright think I'm deranged because I might indulge in a chocolate bar as a treat in my otherwise varied and balanced diet and I suggested others might do the same if they want to.
I understand too much fat and chocolate is bad, that doesn't mean the world should never eat things that might be bad for them in moderation, relax.
But also the sugar and fat part has pretty serious consequences in parts of the world like Diabetes type 2 and the displacement of traditional cooking and is linked to political issues like lobbying. This long NYT article from 2017 about Nestles manipulation of eating habits in poor comunities in Brazil shows the impact (don't know if it has gotten better, though). Even obese people can be malnutritioned and once you aquired Diabetes Type 2 it can only be remedied, not cured.
FeSaZu: FeSaZus are industrially pressed lumps made from only the best the food industry has to offer: one-third fat, one-third salt, and one-third sugar (FeSaZu Purity Law). New are handmade organic FeSaZus for anyone who wants to eat consciously and sustainably. FeSaZus were invented by KochFoods AG. FeSaZus advertising is accompanied by the warning: "Caution: FeSaZus can lead to a slow and painful death. But they are sooooooo delicious." -Quality Land
I was kind of surprised that they tried to astroturf here. Reddit probably has their back and they got too cocky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9#Controversies
Where did they try that here?
I saw it come across on Lemmy, not sure if it was this community or not. I meant Lemmy when I said here.
Yes, I was just wondering what I missed. I did not see it and I'm in this website basically 24/7
I thought it was one of the microblog communities, but not positive. It was someone having 6 kitkats stacked up and taking a bite out of all of them.
I've had a really shitty flu, so I've been on way too much myself.
Wait, are you saying that you think nestle had a direct hand in that post?
Seemed like a comical idea of eating way too much candy using something that was flat because the shape worked.
When you say "nestle," what do you mean?
The company you seemed to be implying was astroturfing in the parent post when you said this and followed it up with a solid description of how shitty they are as a company.
I have some women coworkers and a couple of years ago they were sitting in the break room lamenting how hard it was to find formula. I naively asked them why they didn't breastfeed and they looked at me like I'd grown an extra head. It's absolutely astonishing that after 200 million years of successful breastfeeding (which even gives us our "mammal" name), a corporation was able to convince women that no, they should be feeding their babies with shit from a can made in factory.
Not everybody can breastfeed tho.
So there shouldn't be a stigma around a mother paying or accepting donated milk from another lactating woman. But we're still at the stage where feeding a synthetic concoction made from a different species' breastmilk is okay, but saying another woman breastfeeds your baby would get you weird looks. Wet nurses used to be a thing!
Sure, but that's not the case with the vast majority of women who use formula. Nestle doesn't market this stuff as a product for women who can't breastfeed, they market it as something superior to breast milk in general.
Of note KitKats made in the US are made by Hershey, not Nestle. As I understand it's a legacy licencing deal and Nestle makes no money if you buy a US KitKat.
That being said Hershey's chocolate is what it is. American's are used to it, but it's not great.
Fuck yeah, heavy metal! \m/
Excellent. I was thinking, I don't know of any Hershey's issues, but I'm confident someone else will.
I'm sure there are more, but it's not as obvious. I had to dig a little for these.
the child labor give the chocolate soul
Yes but Nestlé KitKats are commonly imported and sold in the US too, especially in Asian grocery stores. I see them everywhere.
Maybe that explains why the fancy Japanese KitKat flavors never live up to my imagination, despite Asian snacks and candy being generally superior (to my tastes) to similar western items.
Oh well, now I have a good reason to not bother trying them any more.
Avoid nestle products like they're poison. Because they are.
Anybody looking to avoid Nestlé products should also familiarize themselves with the wide range of Nestlé brands.
https://www.nestle.com/brands
God damn it, there's so much on there I had no idea, and I've been hating nestle since the early 2000's...
Just a few I was buying, unaware:
Carnation
Cheerios
Coffeemate
DiGiorno pizza
Fuckin cheerios? Damn...
If you go to the list, their smarties says:
But this is their ingredient list:
The ingredients of our original Smarties® rolls are: DEXTROSE, CITRIC ACID, CALCIUM STEARATE, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, COLORS (RED 40 LAKE, YELLOW 5 LAKE, YELLOW 6 LAKE, BLUE 2 LAKE). They contain 25 calories per roll.
Häagen Daz too? damn wtf
I'll stick to Ben & Jerry's whenever i eat icecream (i try to avoid it).
Or the full A-Z list.
Instructions unclear: Bought a tomato and ended up in The Bad Place.
Comment+user name= absolute vibe
Campbell says fuck you big boy
Ungh, unintended consequences are the worst.
> Steal KitKat
> Eat KitKat like this
there are alternative wafers covered in chocolate
Argentina produces grafiti, which is available at the very least in uruguay and argentina, probably in other places in LATAM as well
Sweden and Denmark (and probably the rest of Scandinavia) has Kex which is somewhat similar
There's also kvikk lunsj in Norway. And yeah, we can easily buy kex too
I'm sure plenty other countries have local variants
At first glance, I thought that was a pile of cocaine on the 3rd kit kat.....I need to go to bed.
Or alternatively, you need a pile of cocaine on a kit-kat.
Better than Kit Kat.
Better than KitKat.
Tony's is great, but it is a totally different candy than KitKat which is chocolate covered wafers
Also that sugar isn't good for the body, at least not for mine. I get rashes and a dry throat when i eat too much sugar. Fruit and vegetables put me in a good mood, but i try to reduce my unnecessary sugar intake anyways.
The truly ascendant way to eat kit Kats is in a smore.
It is always moral to shoplift nestle products.
Please don't get into personal trouble for Nestle. Also they already have the money from the shop owner.
Skip the middle man, got it!
The two biggest things that are hard to will myself not to buy are Quick and Hot Pockets.
At least there are plenty of chocolate milk alternatives. I never see off-brand Hot Pockets :(
I can make my own but sometimes I just wanna grab a thing to nuke real quick. And I get bored of hotdogs. The closest thing I end up getting instead are pizza rolls. And those aren't the same.
Bibigo has pretty good microwavable dumplings and wantons, at least they're good to my unrefined American taste buds. I def like them more than hot dogs and hot pockets.
I don't know who their parent company is so it might be nestle too.
CJ group from south Korea owns that brand
i hate kitkats. It tastes just like dirty socks smell
For me, any "wafer" type cookie or snack just makes me feel like I'm eating Styrofoam
I've been boycotting Nestle for years and I still avoid them when I can, but these days if my only choices are Nestle or an American brand (Nestle is Swiss) I'll choose Nestle.
there is not a single product that you require for sustenance that is exclusively available from these two options. Just don't!
Maybe just don't eat shit with tons of sugar and fat...
Nestle produces a lot of other things than sugar and fat. So much in fact that it's actually hard to completely avoid them. The point is that they are a terrible company who does bad things, so you should boycott them.
Also, people can indulge in sugar and fat if they want to.
Little edit on that past point because some people don't understand indulge doesn't always mean over indulge, or they outright think I'm deranged because I might indulge in a chocolate bar as a treat in my otherwise varied and balanced diet and I suggested others might do the same if they want to.
I understand too much fat and chocolate is bad, that doesn't mean the world should never eat things that might be bad for them in moderation, relax.
But also the sugar and fat part has pretty serious consequences in parts of the world like Diabetes type 2 and the displacement of traditional cooking and is linked to political issues like lobbying. This long NYT article from 2017 about Nestles manipulation of eating habits in poor comunities in Brazil shows the impact (don't know if it has gotten better, though). Even obese people can be malnutritioned and once you aquired Diabetes Type 2 it can only be remedied, not cured.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil-obesity-nestle.html
Sure. Indeed, diabetes and cancer are just myths. /s
This dude has never eaten a cookie in his life.
FeSaZu: FeSaZus are industrially pressed lumps made from only the best the food industry has to offer: one-third fat, one-third salt, and one-third sugar (FeSaZu Purity Law). New are handmade organic FeSaZus for anyone who wants to eat consciously and sustainably. FeSaZus were invented by KochFoods AG. FeSaZus advertising is accompanied by the warning: "Caution: FeSaZus can lead to a slow and painful death. But they are sooooooo delicious." -Quality Land
That book is awesome. I hope it gains popularity in English.
Healthy stuff
You forgot the George Costanza method with the knife and fork.