I really loved how she was recognised pretty unanimously as the badass that she is. Society has a lot of deeply rooted problematic beliefs around sexual assault, but Gisèle Pélicot's bravery was a definite step towards unravelling those icky attitudes.
There used to be a phone number you could call and it just played the song. I put it my email signature at work and forgot about it. When I got a promotion later on I found out when the guy I was supposed to be training called me cracking up saying he tried to call me from the number in my email. Oops
Thankfully it wasn't a big deal because I think I put it as Work # then Personal # and had it as the personal one
In that situation you're still admitting the threats have power over you; by releasing the photos yourself, you both out the person as fucking scum and demonstrate that their threat was completely impotent, delivering a one-two punch to the ego.
Doing it differently could prevent him from doing this bullshit to someone else. Some people need to face consequences so their last few brain cells understand they're ass holes.
Yeah, what a sad story, he was never gonna let her down but he runn around and desert her. But she really did play a power move, just gonna make him cry and gonna say goodbye
To an audience that isn’t interested in seeing them, yeah. They require consent, otherwise it’s a sex crime not dissimilar to flashing. I can’t remember the specific term. Non-consensual something or other.
Edit: I still can’t remember but the word “brandishing” keeps hopping to the forefront of my mind, and brandishing tits sounds hilarious
While violation of social media ToS is possible, I find it difficult to believe that a court would regard the sex crime angle of publishing one's own photos online seriously. Otherwise anyone linking to their OF without asking for permission to send the link first would be a sex criminal.
It's confusing cuz you lot are arguing about something that's not happening.
"Oh what if she was a minor then it would be inappropriate" yeah it would be incredibly inappropriate if she was a minor, but since she isn't, it isn't.
To win an IIED claim, you need to prove the sender’s behavior was extreme and outrageous, they acted with intent to cause you severe emotional distress or with reckless disregard for that possibility, and that you suffered severe emotional distress as a result.
Another legal ground is invasion of privacy, specifically a claim for “intrusion upon seclusion.” This recognizes that individuals have a right to be left alone in their private affairs. Your direct messages, email inbox, and text message threads are considered private spaces. When someone intentionally intrudes by sending offensive material, it can be viewed as a highly offensive invasion of your privacy.
It would seem a very difficult argument to apply in this case.
It varies by country, but in south Africa for example, you don't have to prove emotional distress, the law is clear in stating that exposing someone to genitalia, anus or female breast without consent (provided it is deliberate) is an offense.
So you're right, but in some countries, you're more right than others.
I know you're making a bad faith argument, but I will answer anyway.
Trans people are accepted in south Africa, and offered many legal protections, including official recognition status of their preferred gender (there are certain prerequisites required to change your gender, but I don't know what those are, I just know people who have done so). Should someone undergo gender re-assignment, and have the gender changed on their ID, it would or would not be an offense based on what gender they have transitioned to at the time the incident had occurred.
South African law is pretty forward thinking in many aspects regarding discrimination, primarily because of how racial discrimination has massively featured in our history.
I don't write the law, but for the sake of answering, consent is implicit in this case. Sexual offences must be sexual in nature, and breastfeeding is not sexual. So any mother breastfeeding her child in public would be exempt from prosecution of such a sexual offence. Many traditional ceremonies are also conducted in traditional attire whereby the woman are topless. This is also not regarded as sexual and anyone attending such an event must implicitly consent here as well.
Our law makes many provisions for the reasonable man. So if you happen to stumble upon a nude beach (official status or otherwise), and be exposed to a female breasts, it would not be unlawful as people on this beach reasonably expected the people there to have consented. You could be charged with other offences such as public indecency if official nude beach status is not granted at that beach, but it would not be a sexual offence. Also, the prosecutors would likely be hesitant to waste the courts time on that, and drop the case. So the cops would likely just ask you to cover up if a complaint is received.
Our law is pretty good in that regards, it's our police and investigative side that is over worked and under skilled, mixed with loads of socio economic issues, that result in overloaded courts and high crime rates that we have.
No but adding unsubstantiated comments about how your ex wanted to post revenge porn about you probably is.
Edit: you can stop the down voting, I didn't pick up the part where she screenshotted his threats. Either way, be careful with that sort of vigilante justice as you might be right but still break the law.
You made a very strong claim that she committed a sex crime. You imply her accusations are wrong and malicious. You jumped to that conclusion and took that as fact. And you didn't even bother to read what she did. You judged her without even caring about that.
Not saying you are a bigot, but what you did was bigoted. You should reflect on your behavior, apologize and resolve not to do it again. Only then you could ask for the downvotes to stop lol.
If you had a brain you'd see that my response was saying that if she posted all her nudes with "my boyfriend was going to post this as revenge porn" without any evidence, her boyfriend likely could sue her for defamation as you can't just go claim shit like that.
IF I misread, that doesn't mean misogeny, it means I need to read better. But of course, you being you, you could only go right ahead and screech misogeny because that what you like to do in life
Now, I will pwomise I will not dwo this again, if I lick your asshole, will you pwease fowgiwe me?
Yeah I'm rude, but at least I'm not a condescending bitch like you
No, the lesson is not to be filth and blackmail your partner(s).
I sincerely doubt it’s a crime to upload your own nudes to OnlyFans and then tell your abusive ex-partner’s family, “hey, this is a link to the nude pictures your child threatened to post online if I broke up with them”. My grandma has accidentally shared worse things with me than that
I read your link below and do not understand what you mean by sex crime for sharing your own nude images (with adults). The link mentions a law for your own nude images being shared without consent, but that and everything else just guides a path to sue in civil court.
So really only like half kamikaze
Effectively it was a failed kamikaze.
they say if you're just confident enough, they just let you do it ...
What a woman.
Reminds me of the Paris woman who testified to her abuser. Was in tabloids. Called that monster out.
The strength it takes is awe inspiring.
Gisèle Pélicot ?
Thank you.
I really loved how she was recognised pretty unanimously as the badass that she is. Society has a lot of deeply rooted problematic beliefs around sexual assault, but Gisèle Pélicot's bravery was a definite step towards unravelling those icky attitudes.
"The shame needs to switch sides."
She had more balls than him
oh so you've seen the pics
I love how this gif loops
It loops perfectly! It took me a few laps to understand that it's looping
This is someone who understands strategy. Quick! Promote them to a relevant position in their preferred industry!
So... what did you say that link was?
Right here
I knew where the link was going without clicking it. I still clicked and enjoyed.
2008 called for you but they didn't leave a msg.
hey now don’t stop these
I click on these because I like the song
There used to be a phone number you could call and it just played the song. I put it my email signature at work and forgot about it. When I got a promotion later on I found out when the guy I was supposed to be training called me cracking up saying he tried to call me from the number in my email. Oops Thankfully it wasn't a big deal because I think I put it as Work # then Personal # and had it as the personal one
They should know I only communicate through MSN Messenger these days. Good thing it'll be around forever!
Never going to give you up...
"Those disgusting ex-girlfriend sites! There are so many. Which one?"
https://share.google/DDPtGzlyCvE47eNFO
TY, get out.
The youths don’t even know how to guard against edging.
Why not release just his threats?
In that situation you're still admitting the threats have power over you; by releasing the photos yourself, you both out the person as fucking scum and demonstrate that their threat was completely impotent, delivering a one-two punch to the ego.
I'm sure that your future employer will care a lot about the difference while running the most progressive and sex positive background check ever.
Oh nooo some asshole put up a bunch of deepfakes of me, I can't believe you found that, here let me email the site to warn them...
Exactly the same as if the guy released them so I guess it was never an effective threat to begin with?
It isn't an effective threat to employers, but it does work on friends and family.
An employer who looks up that stuff and has a problem with it needs to get treatment for their mental illness. They are unwell.
We can all agree on that but they absolutely do.
Still doesn’t stop them being used against you. If they’re published by “choice” I think that’s easier on the soul, if still painful.
I don't get it, either. It's like being threatened to get shot and releasing the threat and shooting yourself.
That analogy only works if your nudes being out there hurts or at least bothers you. Maybe she doesn't care or planned to do it herself someday?
You take away all the power if you follow through with releasing them yourself.
Doing it differently could prevent him from doing this bullshit to someone else. Some people need to face consequences so their last few brain cells understand they're ass holes.
How do you attack future girlfriends? I would love to know who my future girlfriends are going to be I need this technology.
You can see who he has been liking and viewing on social media. That would be my best guess.
Playa Hater!
Fumbled the bag. Life doesn't give you many options to sue the fuck outta someone and take em for all they're worth
Badass
This is the way. Take your bodily autonomy back ladies. They can't hurt you as much if you make your vulnerabilities into a weapon
and then everyone clapped
Nothing ever happens.
A weird way to say you believe everything on the internet.
Link or it didn't happen
I believe this it, honestly
I believe in you pug Jesus.
🙏
Just as the old adage goes - what would PugJesus do?
What’s wrong with people? He doubled down on his sex crime???
Yeah, what a sad story, he was never gonna let her down but he runn around and desert her. But she really did play a power move, just gonna make him cry and gonna say goodbye
the post is from 2015 so good luck to find it
here is the post on the internet archive as a starting point: https://web.archive.org/web/20170624194401/http://rarestandfairest.tumblr.com/post/115047018790/i-had-an-ex-boyfriend-threaten-to-publish-my-nudes
Very sad: https://web.archive.org/web/20170624194423/http://rarestandfairest.tumblr.com/
https://youtu.be/D17KwWDpoPU
Classy
To be clear, both of these things are sex crimes, so don’t draw any major lessons from either side, aside from “don’t fuck with people.”
... publishing your own nudes is a sex crime?
I mean... If it's somewhere you don't want to be...
Plus you're usually getting fucked in some way.
And then micro-retire for the weekend?
Technically I'm micro retire as soon as I log into my computer and then spend half an hour getting a coffee.
Wouldn't that be nano-retiring? I'm nano-retiring a couple of times a day when going to the toilet!
Then i slave away
To an audience that isn’t interested in seeing them, yeah. They require consent, otherwise it’s a sex crime not dissimilar to flashing. I can’t remember the specific term. Non-consensual something or other.
Edit: I still can’t remember but the word “brandishing” keeps hopping to the forefront of my mind, and brandishing tits sounds hilarious
While violation of social media ToS is possible, I find it difficult to believe that a court would regard the sex crime angle of publishing one's own photos online seriously. Otherwise anyone linking to their OF without asking for permission to send the link first would be a sex criminal.
if only laws had logic
minors have been charged with creating pedo porn from their own photos
Yeah but she's not a minor.
This comment section is very confusing.
yes I can see how life would be very confusing for some
It's confusing cuz you lot are arguing about something that's not happening.
"Oh what if she was a minor then it would be inappropriate" yeah it would be incredibly inappropriate if she was a minor, but since she isn't, it isn't.
If the intent is to shock or harm, or it can be argued that way, it’s usually best to avoid. If you care to read up, you're welcome to it.
It would seem a very difficult argument to apply in this case.
But not impossible. It’s just an unnecessary risk.
Well, enjoy never leaving the house.
Username checks out.
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Tagging people to let them know they exist is not forcing them on anyone.
I really don’t care to argue the point. Read up, if you care to argue it in court
That link is talking about sending images. I am saying that tagging is not sending images.
I really don’t see a meaningful distinction, but even less do I care to argue the point
You gonna put someone in jail if they tell you nude photos exist? Lmao
It varies by country, but in south Africa for example, you don't have to prove emotional distress, the law is clear in stating that exposing someone to genitalia, anus or female breast without consent (provided it is deliberate) is an offense.
So you're right, but in some countries, you're more right than others.
Breasts as well? That’s surprising. How accepted are trans people in South Africa? Because there might be some confusing times ahead.
I know you're making a bad faith argument, but I will answer anyway.
Trans people are accepted in south Africa, and offered many legal protections, including official recognition status of their preferred gender (there are certain prerequisites required to change your gender, but I don't know what those are, I just know people who have done so). Should someone undergo gender re-assignment, and have the gender changed on their ID, it would or would not be an offense based on what gender they have transitioned to at the time the incident had occurred.
South African law is pretty forward thinking in many aspects regarding discrimination, primarily because of how racial discrimination has massively featured in our history.
Do infants consent to breast feeding? I’m sorry, I know you didn’t write the law
I don't write the law, but for the sake of answering, consent is implicit in this case. Sexual offences must be sexual in nature, and breastfeeding is not sexual. So any mother breastfeeding her child in public would be exempt from prosecution of such a sexual offence. Many traditional ceremonies are also conducted in traditional attire whereby the woman are topless. This is also not regarded as sexual and anyone attending such an event must implicitly consent here as well.
Our law makes many provisions for the reasonable man. So if you happen to stumble upon a nude beach (official status or otherwise), and be exposed to a female breasts, it would not be unlawful as people on this beach reasonably expected the people there to have consented. You could be charged with other offences such as public indecency if official nude beach status is not granted at that beach, but it would not be a sexual offence. Also, the prosecutors would likely be hesitant to waste the courts time on that, and drop the case. So the cops would likely just ask you to cover up if a complaint is received.
Our law is pretty good in that regards, it's our police and investigative side that is over worked and under skilled, mixed with loads of socio economic issues, that result in overloaded courts and high crime rates that we have.
you can just put your titties behind a nsfw tag / spoiler?
::: spoiler spoiler
like this
:::
Most disappointing spoiler tag ever.
Giant Tits ::: spoiler spoiler :::
Much better!
No but adding unsubstantiated comments about how your ex wanted to post revenge porn about you probably is.
Edit: you can stop the down voting, I didn't pick up the part where she screenshotted his threats. Either way, be careful with that sort of vigilante justice as you might be right but still break the law.
If the quotes are screenshotted, it would be substantiated.
Sounds like the claims were pretty well 'substantiated' in this case...
We have a pedo rapist in the White House. The rule of law is meaningless until this is corrected.
Actively ignore the vigilante justice warning. Wanna be a manipulative psychopath? Meet shame.
You made a very strong claim that she committed a sex crime. You imply her accusations are wrong and malicious. You jumped to that conclusion and took that as fact. And you didn't even bother to read what she did. You judged her without even caring about that.
Not saying you are a bigot, but what you did was bigoted. You should reflect on your behavior, apologize and resolve not to do it again. Only then you could ask for the downvotes to stop lol.
Fuck your demand for an apology, how about that?
If you had a brain you'd see that my response was saying that if she posted all her nudes with "my boyfriend was going to post this as revenge porn" without any evidence, her boyfriend likely could sue her for defamation as you can't just go claim shit like that.
IF I misread, that doesn't mean misogeny, it means I need to read better. But of course, you being you, you could only go right ahead and screech misogeny because that what you like to do in life
Now, I will pwomise I will not dwo this again, if I lick your asshole, will you pwease fowgiwe me?
Yeah I'm rude, but at least I'm not a condescending bitch like you
lol btw.
No, the lesson is not to be filth and blackmail your partner(s).
I sincerely doubt it’s a crime to upload your own nudes to OnlyFans and then tell your abusive ex-partner’s family, “hey, this is a link to the nude pictures your child threatened to post online if I broke up with them”. My grandma has accidentally shared worse things with me than that
I read your link below and do not understand what you mean by sex crime for sharing your own nude images (with adults). The link mentions a law for your own nude images being shared without consent, but that and everything else just guides a path to sue in civil court.