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Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claims

The Trump administration has come under mounting pressure from the president’s make America great again (Maga) base to release files on the case, including a supposed list of Epstein’s influential clients.

Trump, in response, has variously dismissed the existence of such files or said they were invented by Obama and members of his administration, including James Comey, the former FBI director, and Joe Biden, vice-president in the Obama administration.

Tulsi Gabbard calls for Obama to be prosecuted over 2016 election claimshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/18/tulsi-gabbard-obama-2016-election-russiaOpen linkView original on discuss.online
sopuli.xyz

So the Russian asset is accusing the Obama administration of falsely accusing Russia of something that everybody knows they not only did, but do as a matter of course?

It's not even as if the accusations are particularly noteworthy, They explicitly did not accuse the Trump campaign of seeking out or cooperating with the Russian interference - they just accuse Russia of interfering. As they do in every election (and as virtually every major world power does in virtually every election everywhere).

Trump is really desperate to shift attention away from Epstein, isn't he?

And Gabbard is really driving home the point that she has absolutely no integrity, principles or ethics.

Just another day in the decline and fall of the United States....

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feddit.nl

They explicitly did not accuse the Trump campaign of seeking out or cooperating with the Russian interference

"russia, if you're listening.."

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piefed.social

Even if this conspiracy theory was even remotely true, and not a distraction to protect the pedophile-in-chief, wouldn't Obama have immunity for everything he did as president based on Trump's precedent?

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I’ll be blunt: the fact that Obama did NOTHING when I’m fairly fucking positive there was a LOT of intelligence indicating orangeboi was the Manchurian Candidate is utterly damning. He was so fucking concerned about optics that he refused to move when a nascent existential danger with hostile external support was clearly rearing its head.

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He was so fucking concerned about optics

To be fair the media went apeshit because he wore a tan suit and used mustard on a sandwich!
With Trump it's like: "Oh and Trump sexually assaults women willy-nilly because he thinks he is entitled to it. But that's OK because that's just who he is."

If Obama had pushed for Trump to be arrested and accused on treason, USA might have ended up in civil war.
That task was not for Obama to do, it was for the judicial and security services. And yes they failed, possibly because security services are generally overwhelmingly right wing.

That said, I would have loved to see Trump in an Orange jump suit, he 100% deserves to be imprisoned for the rest of his life.

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AmidFurorreply
fedia.io

Then Trump was voted out 4 years later and voted back in again in 2024. People want a corrupt authoritarian ruling over them. Or at least they prefer that to a black lady.

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lemmy.world

Not even sure the black part is relevant. They also voted for trump over a white lady in 2016.

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I don’t blame him for making the joke at orangeboi’s expense that evidently formed the kernel of spite and rage that made him decide to go for it.

I DO blame him for not taking the threat he posed seriously. Especially considering this is the standard dynamic between our two parties - one follows the rules and conventions and etiquette and expected decorum and wrings their hands about not being able to do something… and the other one doesn’t fucking care and just does it anyways.

So: yes.

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midwest.social

Democrats have made it clear they don't even have room for democratic socialists which is fair enough, they're liberals.

They just don't get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

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They just don’t get to also whine and bitch about solidarity when socialists criticize them for the laziness and crimes.

What do you mean by "laziness and crimes"? You can't simultaneously believe in democratic socialism and gloat when you help bring Trump to power. Not without being entirely inauthentic.

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M0oP0oreply
mander.xyz

He could have gone to his old reliable drone strike.

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Yeah, and trump was outside the us around that time at least once. Oh how yesterdays horrors are today's wistful could have beens.

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sh.itjust.works

Wow, they're really trying to make this a thing. Fuck you Guardian and MSN:

Shitty headline on MSN: Tulsi Gabbard Uncovers 'Treasonous Conspiracy' Within Obama Admin, Releases Bombshell Documents

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tulsi-gabbard-uncovers-treasonous-conspiracy-within-obama-admin-releases-bombshell-documents/ar-AA1ISdLH

Edit: Also this

  • Tulsi Gabbard declared her residency in Texas. Then she voted in Hawaii

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/09/politics/tulsi-gabbard-texas-hawaii-voting-residency-invs/

  • Tulsi Gabbard Described as 'Advanced Devotee' in Alleged Cult

https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-science-identity-foundation-advanced-devoteee-hindu-1990506

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lemmy.today

she was pretended to be a DEM to undermind congress. her father was no better.

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TIL that Tulsi Gabbard's Dad is the guy from Death Cab for Cutie...

I'm just kidding, I just made that up.

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lemmy.world

I thought Presidents are immune for acts done in their capacity?

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Adler180reply
lemmy.world

All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.

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Wow, pulling out the Obama card already to distract from Epstein?

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Do you honestly believe this? "The Americans" was a TV show.

That's probably the real problem with your country, you value entertainment over facts.

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hypnareply
lemmy.world

You won't do anything about anything. Speak for yourself.

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Really? Is that a sentiment American liberals really hold? Do you mean from Democrat politicians or from the general populace?

For the former, I think they've more than demonstrated their inability to hold anyone to account. From Biden nominating Obama's milquetoast, consensus Supreme Court pick to Attorney General, who proceeded to seemly slow walk Donald Trump's multiple federal prosecutions just long enough to make them all irrelevant and eventually dropped. To the current Congressional Democratic leadership who seem to think leadership is just empty gestures and who appear to have learned nothing from dealing with Republican obstructionism, when the shoe was on the other foot.

After the last six month though, I do have faith in Trump ability to exact revenge on this enemies and to get away with things previously considered to be an egregious overreach or illegal.

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Obama was president in 2016 and therefore everything he did or didn't do was perfectly legal. That's how it works now, right? Unless you want to talk about 2021?

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lemmy.ca

Aren't the current and past Presidents immune from their actions while in acting position, according to the Supreme Court?

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He seems to be rather desparate when you see what ideas he is throwing around to distract from his close relationship to Epstein.

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Yeah, this is their first attempt at distracting the public from the Epstein thing. Expect even more ridiculous shit to come out of these clowns in the next few weeks.

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Controversial statements keep the dicks and dickettes alive in the news cycle. That's what you do when you have no plan, possess no ethics, and have no personality.

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These things are not human. They have foresaken their own humanity in favor of their pursuit of power over others.

This only ends with their deaths.

Or ours.

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good, actually. this is what i want from the pussy ass democrats. I'm so sick of them watching from the sidelines already doing nothing while a republican cunt ravages through the world, bring warcrimes and devastation, only for a fuckass obama type to get elected with promises of change, and pardon said warcrimes to signal that next time they're free to do it all over again. fuck you obama. i wouldn't even be sorry if this went through, maybe you'll see how it's done. I'll count it for obama's own warcrimes anyway.

fuck Biden too. "he's a nazi. he's a fascist! he's an existential threat! oh here's the keys to the country by the way."

disingenuous fucks. capitulators and collaborators. i hope Mamdani's election will signal a new era and the geriatric party, proud defense force of the status quo, will burn to the ground.

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lemmy.ca

There is no good reason why Mueller Report was forgotten in 2020. It said that Russian interference meetings with Trump (adoptions pretext) happened, but that sitting president could not be convicted of them. Biden/Garland election interference to keep Trump out of military jail in order to make the most neocon DNC candidates viable continuing the "stop Trump" election platform.

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lemmy.today

garland was a no-brainer, hes a federalist, he wasnt going to do shit anyways, i dont know why people were mad that he is going to target someone like trump.

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lemmy.ca

They spent a lot of time pretending to prosecute Trump during their administration.

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its called peformative politics, much like how conservatives and the gop "thanks the troops everytime" and yes they were just stringing the cases along, the dems thought that was enough to turn voters against trump and make gop unelectable, the thing is TRUMP thrives on BAD PRESS.

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she aired some of her grievances on a right wing asian youtubers channel(that turned right wing over the pandemic if followed the youtubers before) right before the election.

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