Too many non-working holidays in America
He actually said this 😲
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/juneteenth-trump-too-many-non-working-holidays/
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/20/economy/trump-too-many-holidays-economy
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And then he went golfing. True story.
And he flew using US government plane. He has spent millions on just plane rides.
Who is wasting tax payer's money.
I hate paid time off. It’s one of the greatest crimes of modern life. I think I’ll campaign to have my union dismantled and my pay cut in half because the current model is clearly ripping off my employer.
Keep in mind that the guy complaining about PTO hasn’t worked a day in his life.
"Yeah, PTO is gay!" - Guy who works part-time at Dollar General.
FOR REAL THOUGH. Like every person I have ever heard that has complained about PTO, are people who are in positions that either don't accrue it, or accrue it so slowly that it's never usable, or make enough that they don't need to ever worry about being paid vs unpaid when they take holiday.
I work nights from home, so I hardly ever need to take PTO. Kinda nice at the end of the year though when I typically take November and December off to burn the PTO I can’t carry over into the new year (limited to 40 hours).
We used to do this at work. But it would turn out the company basically shut down after thanksgiving because so few people actually took vacation thru out the year.
Now we are on "permissive time off" which means there is no set amount you can take or really... have to take. So in general, people just work more and are pissed off about it
Shhh, don’t tell my company!
Disclaimer: USA perspective here, I know its less bullshit in many other parts of the world.
People who don't like PTO don't like it because:
It is implemented in a bullshit way that is often literally illegal...
And it is implemented by idiot/cheap managers who don't have enough actual staff hours to cover anyone being sick or taking PTO.
The bog standard norm for every kind of min wage tier job is that the manager will just unapprove your vacation that you accrued and scheduled weeks or months ago, and then oops, that also makes it so you haven't been accumulating more PTO because you hit your max and didn't use it in time.
Or just any manager that says you can only have a sick day, vacation, or any kind of emergency if you find a replacement for your shift.
That one is particularly amazing because... that is literally the manager's job, to do that, not yours.
But they just gaslight you into doing their job for them, for no extrs pay, of course.
But this kind of (again, often literally illegal) bullshit is so totally common and normalized amongst these shit ass jobs, that most workers don't even know how bullshit it is, and will rabidly attack and malign their coworkers instead of blaming their petty tyrant boss.
These people are basically, generally correct in identifying PTO as basically bullshit in these situations, but they're too overworked and uninformed to put together that... it could be organized/executed in a not bullshit way, and it's their boss's (or corporate's) fault that it isn't.
Shitass retail managers routinely pull this bullshit and enforce a culture of blame being on all your fellow workers, and will go out of their way to intentionally stoke interpersonal drama amongst coworkers... it is very, very rare to find a low level franchise manager or small business owner who does not do this.
Yeah, and unfortunately, like you said, that entire practice is fully illegal in the states. However, most employees are unwilling to report it and then file the evidence of why it was done. Because while there is no mandatory vacation time in the US, if you are provided It as a benefit, it must be something that you can use. And if they are regularly denying your PTO because they don't have the people to be able to cover it, then they are denying you a benefit which they are legally obligated to provide since they offered it as part of your benefits.
The amount of times that people just decide, oh well it's only PTO. It's no biggie. I don't want to rock the boat. It's insane. Like my mom lost over 600 hours of PTO because the business closed up and she didn't fight that they needed to pay it. She doesn't put two and two together that she's overall getting paid less because she has the benefit of having that PTO. So if they were to not offer the PTO, they are just paying less.
Your PTO, if offered, is part of your benefits package, meaning that it's part of your hourly wage calculation. So if you are given PTO and then not being allowed to use it, you are voluntarily being given a demotion.
... and this is why non corrupt unions need to exist.
A single person likely can't afford the legal costs or even just simply the time and headache of pursuing justice, and there is just a massive ass backward culture in the US of it being rude to discuss money and finances with basically anyone...
Get the masses fighting with each other, distrustful of each other, so they don't rally against the real, common enemy.
Oldest tactic in the book, divide and conquer, but you'd have to undo over a century of brainwashing that has now just become a cultural norm amongst morons who think one day they'll be able to be the asshole boss.
Or, even just that if they acquiesce to every absurd demand and insult, they'll be seen as a reliable employee. The reality is that none of that matters, we are all just homogenous human capital to them, especially so at such unspecialized, entry level retail jobs.
I actually have coworkers who were complaining about a day off, and saying "everybody's lazy, nobody wants to work anymore". Take the day off, and shut up!
How old are they? I feel like old people have nothing other than their jobs. They never had many hobbies and they never had to raise their kids.
I find its more often they need those hours to afford to live. Sometimes due to poor life choices like owning 5 dirtbikes that don't run and buying a 6th, but often its just due to how unfair the economy is to low income families.
You mean Americans don't get paid on holidays?
Sometimes they get paid more if they do come in, typically time and a half, so they feel like they are missing out if they don't. Sometimes is based on if they are full time or not. The same rhetoric is true for just regular weekends, my boss considers anyone who works less than 6 days a week unmotivated and lazy.
💀 so you are treated like the medieval serf
Thats very job dependent. Does the salesman in the UK make money if they dont make a sale? Does the construction worker make money if they didn't build anything? The salaried folks sure get paid in the holidays.
They're over 30, but so am I! 😭
Tell those coworkers to pick up the slack and work on their day-off. Take the off time for you and others so the aggravted workers feel good and pat their backs.
I'm a teacher, so any work they do doesn't help me, lol
Also we should bring back prima nocta for the holy job creators, and really just bring back slavery. I mean, people can't afford their own homes and such anyway, imagine how much more EFFECIENT it would be if we could cut through the red tape and get similar results.
-Republicans, unironically^
Slavery never went away, it's just slightly more regulated now.
We still have traditional slavery in prisons.
Yup, 13 amendment clearly allows it.
What a fucking moron along with all his voters
They need that tax revenue to make up for all the tax cuts for the wealthy.
It's likely he doesn't actually believe it, but instead he's starting a disinformation campaign so that he can let his lackeys start to start doing some illegal shit because it will benefit him.
Nah, he is just that stupid. Doesn't prevent his lackeys from using the distraction, of course, but he's just that dumb.
I don't mean to imply he's not stupid. You gotta be really fucking dumb to say that at all. I just think he doesn't care what he says, because the content of what he says is not important. It's more of a method of controlling the conversation.
Even "controlling the conversation" is too generous. He wants attention and is addicted to social media, and since he's so dumb half of what he says ends up being controversial. Which his base loves.
"the workers don't want it"
The fuck we don't
Imagine being this guy and trying to speak for the working class
And having legal adults stop and think, "Hmm, maybe this day off thing IS kinda woke."
Fellas, is it woke to like holidays?
All he has to do is to climb on a truck once and half of the country will believe he is a regular Joe. Critical thinking has left the building.
That's one of the fundamental strategies from the trump playbook: just claim the people want something and if it's repeated loud and often enough, people will start to believe it. Hopefully not for something as egregious as this, but it has worked in the past.
I'd love a few floating "celebrate your bullshit when you choose" days instead.
Not from US, but I'd love to see mine and other multicultural countries have a box to tick when you get a job for what set of cultural holidays you want. No change forms those who celebrate Christmas and Easter (either religiously or traditional cultural reasons), and gives other cultures a chance to enjoy their holidays.
Cadlillac agrees with Trump. Slave labour is what makes America great and the slaves love it apparently.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xNzXze5Yza8
I doubt he cares about holidays at all, but he very much cares about removing a holiday that is specifically relevant to not white people.
I was taking with a family member yesterday and said I'd be shocked if Juneteenth is still a holiday next year.
I doubt he notices a holiday TBH, it's just the same as the previous day.
I'm sure the racist ghouls around him were complaining about Juneteenth.
yea, which is the only real reason he posted about it. It's just a normal day for him, but he realized he can capitalize on it and make it a PR stunt like always
As a Dane, I have always been fucking shocked at the slave-like working conditions Americans work under. They barely get any time off as it is. What do you mean too many holidays?
The worst part is... If you've ever had the pleasure of working with an American company you'll notice just how unproductive they are.
Obviously the two are closely connected, but it's always fascinating to me
Yeah there's that myth that if you make people work more hours more work will be done. It all makes sense on the spreadsheet!
Reality is the workers are human, humans get tired and you aren't getting more work out of anyone by making them work more hours. You're just making someone be at a place longer because you can.
Its basic math. A woman needs 9 months for a pregnancy, surely two women would only need 4.5 months.
The spreadsheet confirms what you just said. Adding it to the corporate policy manual now.
Also note that a pregnant woman has two brains, so they can work twice as fast!
So true. True efficiency can only be achieved when human labour is finite. Look at the small countries of norther europe. /my first comment on lemmee :D
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The problem is that in Germany, our Chancellor is currently on the same trip saying that 'the people don't work enough' even though most people (who have a full time job) already work about 40 hours and many woman would like to work more but can't because there are not enough daycare centres and retirement homes.
My wife worked for Siemens-Gamesa for a long time, and German managers were always surprised how the Danes would just straight up decline meetings after 16 and leave early if they had to pick up kids.
They didn't worry about that at all, of course, because their wives generally didn't work full time.
That's what they get when you don't fight for your rights.
Look at it now, semi-fascist for half a year and they're still basically singing Kumbaya.
They get what they deserve.
We have the least mandated PTO in the developed world and a good portion of the underdeveloped world.
Our federal holidays aren't even days off for most people. Lol
My opinion of him can't be lower but man I keep realizing how fucking stupid his supporters are with every one of his asinine comments.
Yeah I called Juneteenth getting axed over a month ago and one of my co-workers chimed in that Juneteenth was a Trump holiday. It isn't, it was signed into law by Biden his first year in office. Trump lied about it while campaigning.
Yeah I’ll be shocked if it still exists next year. He’ll call it “woke DEI” and his bitches in congress will scramble to be on the wrong side of history yet again.
America produces way more than enough to allow everyone to live comfortably and enjoy life. But the fruits of all that extra productivity is being hoarded by a tiny portion of the population while workers are being increasingly stretched and strained to extract as much value from then as possible while paying them as least as possible.
The scarcity of wealth and the need to always work harder and longer hours to barely make it is an illusion maintained to exploit the workers.
One of the country with the least amount of paid vacation in the world. And that's the hill he decides to climb on. He excels at making himself look increasingly moronic.
The only reason they don't have a lower amount of mandatory paid vacation is because it is impossible to go below 0.
Don't give them ideas.
And the fact he posted this on Juneteenth is just coincidence, right?
"The workers don't want it!"
Some people said basically the exact same thing about slaves. That they liked being slaves.
He says on the holiday dedicated to the freeing of the slaves. It’s no coincidence this the one he complains about.
Remember back in the middle ages, when everyone was sporting an axe and knew where the boss's house was?
They also had more days off back then, more time to sharpen that axe.
More holidays, but when you're a subsistence farmer, those aren't really days off, just days you don't have to work for the rent.
A lot less workers too to be fair (the plague more than did its work...), so it was a workers market
And worked a lot less than 40 hours a week
well, worked less than 40hrs a week for an employer. They had a ton of shit to do at home, and if they weren't married, doubly so.
My grandma used to tell me stories of how long it would take to forage for food before refridgerators
Kind of telling to be complaining about this on a day which celebrates the end of slavery.
Look, on the one hand, I understand your sentiment. On the other hand, these are the voters you have, blaming them won't get them to the polls, "teaching them a lesson" won't get them to the polls. As hard as it may be to primary the Dems who are voting for Trump's picks, who are voting for genocide, who are even trying to pull Trump towards war right now, it is still easier than getting new voters if you're not into domestic genocide like Trump.
I understand you're frustrated with voters, but it's something that you can't change. Some people will not vote if the options are "one genocide or two genocides". You can change the politicians, try to get more people like AOC and Bernie and less people like Schumer though.
Then those people are just as culpable for fascism's rise and I will treat them as such.
rusty shitbox is ALWAYS better than radioactive rusty shitbox that is also on fire
"AOC and Bernie"
LOL
I get they are not "left enough", but who do you have in the US that is not radical right wing? I agree that maybe throwing the whole thing out and starting out again would be better, and the US is definitely going that way, but what do you suggest?
You have De la Cruz and others.
They get targeted, not sheepdog Bernie 'israel has a right to defend itself' or AOC.
They are all part of it. If Americans keep trying to fix that party then they deserve what they get.
I'm European and it's completely obvious.
Are Americans really that stupid that they keep believing empty words from politicians and don't do some research?
You people have learned absolutely fucking nothing.
Dude... yes. Have you not been paying attention?
They should have the day they voted for. Nothing more, nothing less.
LOL still seething about the well deserved loss.
As a European nothing gives me more pleasure than watching your country collapse.
I'm always amazed at the sheer ignorance displayed by citizens of the dead empires. You should have learned what a dying empire does from your own history.
Here's why everyone is angry. Seemingly at people like you, I'm assuming, who decided not to vote. Democrats weren't the ones committing the genocide!! They were absolutely enabling it. Supporting it. Israel was committing the genocide and we weren't voting for their government. And then, on top of that, it was absolutely evident that Trump would make the genocide worse and not voting against him was effectively voting for him. And that's on you. You did that. There was a slim chance that Kamala could improve the situation and Palestinian lives. Instead, your lack of vote ensured that wouldn't happen, ensured that more Ukrainians would die, ensured that Africans would die, ensured that American women would die, ensured that millions of Americans will die if there's a pandemic. And now instead of just fixing the Democratic party for the future, we're also fighting fascism. So fucking congrats. Your short-sighted high horse didn't take a harm reduction strategy and many human lives are now gone. You need to fucking own that.
You people are insane
https://web.archive.org/web/20250618034152/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-08-30/ty-article/harris-tells-cnn-no-change-in-bidens-israel-policy-we-have-to-get-cease-fire-deal-done/00000191-a0fd-d172-abd9-eaff68f80001
Could be wrong, but that photo of Harris looks edited. Why does her nose look so strange?
They picked a picture not to your liking therefore those verified numbers must be wrong.
Glad you have an eye for the important things.
Anyway to explain it to americans: lens not same...magic happens
what are those numbers at the bottom?
lens size and distance
So that proves the photo cannot be edited... or...?
Why would anyone do that?
It would be idiotic , you have a wild imagination.
Nobody would care about the picture of the ghoul but you.
Unless they're trying to divert atention from the message, that Copmala got more from the ziomonsters than Trump.
I agree with you. But also a democracy with only one democratic party is already a failed democracy from my point of view. So not only one party should be fixed as you said, but the whole two party system. I guess.....
I am not an American citizen. So, no, I had no vote begin with.
The majority of people refusing to vote for Kamala due to her direct involvement in genocide were Palestinian Americans. They continued to fund and arm Israel as they continued to commit genocide. That absolutely makes them complicit in genocide, otherwise referred to as people committing genocide. If America had defied them in any substantial way then Israel would not have been able to continue committing genocide.
Kamala is a zionist, like Joe. There was no slim chance. Youre acting like its IMPOSSIBLE that she could've just said "I will stop American complicity in the Palestinian genocide and join the rest of the UN in demanding the arrest of war criminals in Israel". She could've done that 🙃 she could've done that at any time and yet youre seemingly more upset at a very small minority of people who wouldn't vote for her instead of her for not making a very basic decision to end American involvement in murdering Palestinian children?
Why isn't she, who was directly complicit in horrific acts of ethnic cleansing, the subject of your ire??
Its NEVER "If only Kamala had promised to end American involvement in the genocide of Palestinians we might not have had Trump, hope she's happy with herself." Instead its always "Wow fuck the Palestinian Americans who objected to voting for someone actively supplying and protecting the people murdering their entire culture. How dare they!!"
Its all just punching down. Thats all it is. Never demand anything from the democratic party, Kamala and Joe are so fragile they might just cry if you held them accountable for anything they do. Its the fault of those evil people who are anti genocide and demanded American stop committing acts of genocide. Giving the Nazis Zyklon B would be direct involvement in what they used it for, giving the IDF missiles as you watch them throw them at preschools makes you a direct part of their industry of genocide. And she could've ended that. She could've been like "nope fuck that fuck Israel fuck Zionism my administration will end American involvement in the Palestinian genocide and join the world in calling for the arrest of war criminals and the end of Israeli colonialism". Why is that not the desired outcome for you??
Good thing that at least the genocide stopped immediately, Palestinians now have their own country, the Ukraine war was negotiated on day one, eggs are a buck a dozen and everybody has Healthcare now.
Mhm yeah and the whole year when Kamala and Joe could've stopped the genocide they did... sorry remind me what Joe Biden did while he was president and Israel was like "hey were gonna start massacring children and starving entire populations to death" ? Was it that he spreads their propaganda and hoaxes on an international stage for them? Was it that he continuously interfered with the ICC and the UN from doing ANYTHING to stop the genocide? Was it that he gave them all the money and guns and bombs they could ever dream of? Was it that he forced American universities to Crack down on anti zionist protests? Was it that he advocated essentially the same position as Donald Trump and was also very close personal friends with one of the most vile racists who's ever lived Netanyahu?
Remind me, did they stop the Palestinian genocide when they had the presidency? Or did it not literally start and flourish under them, while they kept it safe from any interference and fed the genocidal militias.
Kamala didn't stop the genocide, let's elect trump so at least the palenstinans are killed faster so the conflict is over.
You are really tieing yourself up in knots to justify why its fine for you to continue to support a woman who committed genocide.
Again, why is so much of your ire and criticism directed at people criticizing her and not Kamala herself? You realize that if she had stopped passionately endorsing genocide and had chosen to stand with the Palestinians then those same people would have voted for her? So in one case youre demanding that many people vote for someone committing genocide against their people, and in the other we are demanding that a political party stop committing genocide. Why, in this situation, is the focus of this vitriol you feel directed at the former and not the latter?
No one here has been talking about voting for Trump, least of all me.
No seriously I want to know why your beef is with people protesting genocide and not the people committing it. Explain it. Election is over, I'm not talking about this from the perspective of voting. Election was over an eternity ago at this point. Why are you presently spitting at Palestinian Americans who refused to vote for Kamala and not Kamala herself for participating in genocide against Palestinians?
Because the former helped elect trump, thus having the opposite effect. The former created more genocide. I don't like more genocide. I didn't like the amount of genocide we had, but I wanted less. People decided that they wouldn't vote for the same, so we ended up with more.
And, again, the election is over. We could have had a "no genocide" candidate if Kamala Harris had chosen to do so. So ill ask again, why are you spitting at Palestinian Americans for refusing to support someone participating in the ethnic cleansing of their people, instead of the woman who refused to commit to ending American participation in the Palestinian genocide? If she had done that, those people would have voted for her.
We're talking about hypotheticals in either case. Your rage is fixated solely on people who wouldn't vote for her because of her support for the Palestinian genocide, instead of at her for supporting it in the first place. It doesn't make any sense. The end outcome wouldve been those people voting for her in either hypothetical scenario, so why are you so angry at them and not her when she had just as much of a say in this situation?
So Kamala Harris, someone who was in what is essentially a ceremonial position at the time, personally committed genocide?
Either you don't understand how the government of this country functions, or you're being disingenuous (or probably both).
There is a level of nuance here that you're either ignorant of, or purposely avoiding.
Giving money and arms to a genocidal state, yes, i would define as participating in genocide. Much like I would say companies who manufactured weapons used in past genocides did commit acts of genocide, even if they are not personally pulling the trigger.
The extent to which her direct involvement happened is debatable. Ill agree it is somewhat ceremonial but it isnt entirely and theres no way over the course of a year she was never at any point involved in the politics surrounding the genocide in Gaza. Providing ideological support for genocide can also be argued to be participating in it. "Israel has a right to defend itself." Is a simple statement made by a citizen, an endorsement of zionism and of genocide. On the scale of a powerful political figure (vp of the US is more powerful in terms of direct political power than the leaders of many nations) it is actively participating in genocide, or committing it. I don't draw a major distinction between the Nazis who wrote Der Stürmer and the SS. They were both pieces of an industry of genocide. In the same way I would argue the administration of Joe Biden was a major component of the industry of Palestinian genocide.
You can argue the nuances of this, sure. She also outright stated her intention to support the genocide going forward. If she hadn't already participated in genocide (doubtful) then unless you believe she had a secret hidden agenda of Palestinian liberation she would certainly have participated in it after being elected.
What is it that you think the Vice President actually does?
I mean I'm not really referring to the specifics of her station presiding over the senate but she was the second most powerful political figure in the Biden administration. Directly involved in the national security council (which would have definitely meant her involvement in decision making with regards to the Palestinian genocide). The Vice President also often provides ideological support to the president in functions of state. She more than had a platform to speak out if she thought what Israel was doing was wrong. She couldn't his overrule his executive authority, but she was not under an obligation to support and agree with his actions in participating in the Palestinian genocide.
Nor was she obligated to campaign on continuing that genocide.
No. She fucking was not.
Truly, you do not know just how ceremonial the position of VP is.
She literally has a seat on the nation security council, meaning she is directly involved in all decision making surrounding US military interests and foreign policy. She sat in the "situation room" and had a direct say in US foreign policy decisions.
She participated in decision making surrounding US participation in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Its really not disputable. The VP used to be far more a ceremonial position in the 19th century. In the modern era this is not the case.
Its also largely at the discretion of the president how much power and authority the VP has. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were close throughout his presidency. Her opinion and word absolutely was relevant to him.
They worked on a ceasefire to get the hostages released. There is no world where Israel is ever going say "ok just keep our people there and torture them to death or whatever, we don't care". The only way there could be peace would be for the hostages be released.
The US isn't an all powerful entity and the only source for weapons in the world. If the US stopped selling weapons to Israel, Israel would purchase weapons elsewhere. Less advanced weapons, which means less accurate, which means more people die when they do airstrikes on Hamas.
The Hamas propaganda only shows you the aftermath of a battle in a densely populated urban environment. They don't show the Hamas guy firing at the IDF from the window of a building, they only show what happens when the IDF hits back. And remember the whole reason the IDF is in Gaza is because Hamas forcibly took Israelis into Gaza and is reusing to release them because they want this war they tell you is a genocide to continue forever. Hamas can end what they're saying is a genocide at any time by releasing the hostages. Why don't they do that?
Sure, but what combat purpose is it to starve children to death? Destroy hospitals, water treatment and power plants? The IDF is a criminal organization, at this point it doesn't matter who started it.
They both have the same sponsors and work for them, not the public.
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“The workers don’t want it”. He had about as much sense of this as he does of a concept of health care plan.
Workers. Hate. Paid. Holidays.
We've been saying it for years, but nobody listens. The liberal nanny state keeps forcing me to stay home, spend time with my family, or even go on vacation, when all I really want to do is stare at spreadsheets for another eight hours.
Enough is enough!
Before resting, I go to work tired tomorrow. After resting, I go to work angry tomorrow.
Without tasting freedom for a day or two I would not be angry about losing it.
Defund weekends, they are some DEI bullshit!
/sarcasm
I know right? ALL I want is to make money and not for me but for some idiot who has control of the market and that means that if my labor is worth $200 an hours all I want is to work work work and especially for a fraction of that.
The workers don't want it. What workers actually want is an end to holidays, weekends, and time off in general. I mean, what good is being a "worker" if you're not working every waking minute of your life? /s
I know several, they're type that base their whole identity around their job, and the type to die very quickly after retirement. They also vote conservative.
bring back the 168 hour workweek
In all fairness, Trump is just a moldy, hollowed-out Golem. Every Juneteenth, Stephen Miller shmooshes his shiny dome straight into Trump's rear end and starts flicking and vibrating his tongue across Donnie's prostate like it's a musical instrument carved from rotting cheese, inducing a flurry of nerve impulses that spread through Trump's spine and into his abnormally short, sticky sausage fingers, where they smear out the latest batch of vile racist garbage.
This is the worst thing to read first thing in the morning 🤮
Like everything he says/does there is a slight truth buried deep in there.
Some 'workers' really don't want it. They are called corporate middle management. They don't want the wage slaves to disrupt profit or crowd the spaces that they will be using because management will still take the day off.
Nah, the people who don't want it are hourly workers who are living paycheck to paycheck, which is tens of millions of workers.
The sad truth is he's right, but the reason is that for these people, missing out on $80 could be the difference between paying the water bill or not this month.
It's not that people love to work so much that they hate missing a day, it's that they can't afford to not work a day.
There's a big difference between "want" and "have to"...... No-one "wants' to work more, but many people "have to".
What a piece of shit post. He's using the date to signal solidarity to his racist voters.
What do you mean?
He posted it on Juneteenth, i.e. the federal holiday that commemorates the end of slavery.
That's... I'm speechless. I tought it was idiotic when it "just" suggested that workers beg to work more. It had a brazen "abuse and ridicule working people" spin on it. But it not about economic slavery... It's about the acctuall slavery? That is... we need a word for idiotic and evil and the same time.
Thanks for the context.
"MAGA"
Thought slavery is still legal in the US..
Chattel slavery is illegal. It's true that you can be enslaved, or at least enslaved in all but name and forced to work, as punishment for a crime. I.e. as part of your incarceration. This is per the 13th amendment.
I'm not enough of a legal eagle to explain what would happen or what your recourse would (or would not) be if you refused, though.
'Best' case scenario for refusing to be a prisoner slave is you would lose all "privileges".
No yard time, probably placed into solitary. No commissary access - so things like soap and toothpaste would be withheld.
Food is also restricted to "basics" along the lines of bread and water.
Of course the reality is they will straight up torture you for not playing by their rules. Aka complete withholding of food and interaction and cleanliness as they either 'forget' you in solitary or just have an 'accident' with you.
It is.
14th13th amendment.This was posted on Juneteenth.
Said the guy who spends 1/3 of his time golfing
It would be fun to make Trump work a job for 90 days. Nothing major. Maybe answering phones for a help line.
9 to 5 desk job.
Monday through Friday.
If he misses a day he has to "find a new job" and start over.
The dude would fucking CRACK like he was being waterboarded!
And then for evenings and weekends, he has to: do chores around the house, fix shit instead of hiring someone else to do it, pay bills, contact businesses because they billed you incorrectly and you can't afford to pay the extra hundred they're charging you, go grocery shopping, meal prep, do taxes, and all the while be a good husband, father, and person who takes care of themselves.
Yeah, like how he "worked" at McDee's as a fry cook for 2 minutes and then smiled and waved at people for the rest of his "shift".
This should be a requirement for holding public office.
Which is why it's absolutely insane they use aoc's prior job as a bartender as an insult. Motherfuckers, she's probably the only person in office who actually understands what it means to work.
Should be a requirement for life. My SO always says everyone should be required to work retail for one week during the holidays. I have to agree.
Nah F that, most Americans barley get any paid time off if any. If anything we need MORE.
Yeah, it's hilarious to hear "workers want less" when what they really mean is less forced unpaid time off, obviously if they want money they'd want to work. I'm sure those people would prefer paid time off to having to work.
Afaik, what he does is called manufacturing consent.
They mostly don't get any of those "holidays" paid anyway which is why they don't like them. You're lucky if you get Christmas and Thanksgiving paid on top of your two weeks of PTO. The rest are days the banks close and some other places give their people unpaid days off.
Come for the racism, stay for the contempt of working people in general.
But the economy!
King Cuck says no more holidays while golfing his presidency away.
See, it's fine when he goes golfing as he doesn't directly contribute anything to his or his pals' wealth. But those workers actually creating wealth, how dare they take days off.
Translation: we shouldn’t give black people in america a federal holiday because i am a racist and demented old man who is increasingly irrelevant in society.
Trump: And I will make sure I go out with a bang and take everybody with me!
If he takes all of his cronies with him, that'd be great.
This guy LITERALLY raped a 13 year old back in the day, and only golfs.
life is not created for an economy
Almost!
The economy is not made for living beings.
Life exists, and there is no will nor force that can make it compatible with "the economy". Certainly not in all the ways that its deranged acolytes are calling for.
But the other way around? Let's give it an honest try, shall we?
Ah yes. The obligatory racist whinging on Juneteenth. Fat lazy bastard who doesn't get to work before 11 am because he requires "executive time" (tv time).
I think any European politician who said anything remotely close to this would see their careers instantly over. How is it possible that saying something like this doesn't cost them votes in the US?
He said this specifically on Juneteenth so that his hateful voters agree, and those that work for businesses that don’t give a day off on Juneteenth get angry at the people who work for companies or the government that do.
Be the change you want to see in the world and post the exact same screenshot on the 4th.
Either the reactionaries don't read the date and get pissed off, or they do read the date and get pissed off, proving to everyone else that the have the ability to use critical thinking but choose not to when it benefits their narrative.
His voters love the taste of the boot and the democrats are so shitty that most people just don’t bother to vote
Because republicans have no integrity and have cultivated a base of gibbering idiots who are happy watching others suffer even if it hurts them too
Any non-republican in America who said this would also instantly have their careers end. “Would end a political career” happens multiple times a day for trump though and I’m still waiting for him to be held accountable for anything. Unfortunately, they made “holding people accountable” a bipartisan issue and only one party has any interest in doing it…unless it’s a democrat that needs to be held accountable, then it’s usually bipartisan.
Because they've spent decades demonising and dismantling unions. There's no voice for the workers.
There's a voice for the workers at least every 4 years, and workers demonstrated in November they really want this guy back.
I wish them to have the day they voted for.
maybe there are too many non-working presidents right now?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Get off the golf course yourself then you orange turd
I dont know, seems like the golf course is the absolute best place for him to be.
That would be under the golf course.
Pretty sure his body would work as anti-fertilizer.
Then put him under the bunker. IIRC a bunker was one of the best places for adolf too.
And we need fewer golf courses so that's a double win.
Sadly all his cronies would still be at the wheel back at the office.
He sucks at it too apparently
OK, start with Christmas Day. I'll wait.
lol if he actually tried this, the speed in which big companies would lobby the fuck out of it would be insane.
Oh yes, all eleven federal holidays will turn into 365 real soon.
As a Pagan, if you want federal holidays to be secular then solstices and equinoxes couldn't be counted. Many Pagans (not all) observe them as holy days along with Feb 1-2 (Imbolc), May 1 (Bealtaine - there are multiple spellings this one), August 1 (Lammas/Lughnasadh), and Halloween (Samhain). And I'm sure Pagans that celebrate non-European traditions have other days, I just can't speak to them personally.
Secular doesn't mean pagan.
Secular refers to things not religious or spiritual. Those days are religious holidays in various forms of Paganism which is an umbrella term for a set of religions/spiritual practices. If anybody wants truly secular holidays the equinoxes and solstices shouldn't be included in that list.
(Edited to fix typo)
Secular means separate from religion. Any religion, including paganism. Equinoxes are as food a reason as any to enjoy some time with family.
He's agreeing with you on secular. The parent poster said equinoxes should replace a religious holiday, and he's saying that equinoxes are not strictly secular, they are religious at least with respect to paganism.
Every day of the calendar is religious for someone. Equinoxes are perfectly secular, physical phenomena.
Technically, there is no law requiring a company to provide PTO or close on Holidays. Its up to the company, not this stupid bastard.
The government is however required to give most employees several days off throughout the year which might be what he’s bitching about
Biggest problem with non-working "holidays" is that they only apply to certain more privileged people who also get paid to not work. Everyone else either sits at home unpaid for the day, or has to work (most often without any additional compensation) to support those who do get the paid day off.
Thinly veiled attempt to get rid of juneteenth. So just the usual rightwing racism.
Happening all over the globe. The capitalist hegemony is getting scared because their system is collapsing in on itself and, through the imperial boomerang, are beginning to employ practices only performed abroad on the interior in order to maintain their power. The US is just far ahead of the curve due to its lack of a functioning political leftwing keeping things in check.
Now is most certainly the time for people to unionize and start relearning why unions formed in the first place: so workers can band together to exert their political will and take ownership over their workplace from a parasitic class that has only ever existed to exploit our labor.
Same in Denmark. This is our first year without "Store Bededag" (single day holiday), which our useless fucking government decided to remove, as part of their war-consent-manufacturing.
Since both heads of state were heavily "sponsored" by blackrock et al., similiar policies are to be expected.
Damn! Not that the whole bleat isn't awful, but that's one of the stupidest sentences ever in ALL of the ways! 🤦
He's just very forward thinking. In 14000 years you'll be sorry for not heading this warning!
Doesn't tourism help the economy? You gotta give people time off to be the consumers you want them to be.
I know nurses and other government employees who wouldn't want less mandatory holidays off, you're either off or get holiday pay to work on a Monday!
This isn't entirely true - someone calculated that, on a good year, a peasant could only work 150 days a year towards the rent of their own farmland. Then they have to actually work that land, take care of their animals, and manually do basically every industrial process we take for granted to get food in their belly. They didn't work 150 days a year then go off with a cheque that will sort them out for the rest of the year.
Source: https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/regulation-industry/medieval-peasants-really-did-not-work-only-150-days-a-year/
wasn't this confirmed false?
It absolutely is false and it's very misleading. Living as a peasant would suck complete ass.
Yeah, sure, good luck only working 150 days, or even taking a whole day off, when you're supposed to tend to farmland and animals. That's like having a holiday from being a parent
And? They also had communal+generational help with that.
There was bad stuff too, but we are getting fucked here
Assuming communal farming, you just rotate who works each day.
Ok bootlicker defender of your oppressors
Funny, I didn't know calling out bullshit was the same as "defending my oppressors". I'd love if you could point out the kind of crazy mental gymnastics needed for that
I mentally read this in the same voice I read $VARIABLE with.
🤓
300 million people can't have a single fucking day off every once in a while because it will "cost billions", while less than 10 people are hoarding over a TRILLION in wealth.
Too many non-working presidents and billionaires in your country.
Truer words have not been spoken.
They had the option of Bernie, Harris and Walz just in the last decade, they, they chose the president they chose.
Go play golf and change your diaper grandpa, you’re getting crabby.
Hoffa and JFK got whacked for less than this.
And here we see this buffoon once again viciously attacking his political enemies...(Flips papers)...
..."Anyone with half a brain who works for a living."
And he seriously said this, what the actual fuck. It seemed so absurd that i had to look up, and yeah its there...
No one is forcing anyone to be closed on holidays! There's no law or rule or anything!
Banks don't have to close and work absolute shit hours because they handle money!
You wanna make more money stay open on holidays.
I work in appliance repair I get the 4th of July, thanksgiving and Christmas and new years.
It sucks. But we make more money.
My sleep deprived brain trying to process the 4th thanksgiving. Like, I only get one and this guy gets 4. I’m going to go to sleep now, you should also invest in some commas. :)
I was thinking he only took Thanksgiving off every 4 years.
Says the obese pig to whom EVERY day is a holiday and a reason to golf. I never knew that POTUS was a part time position. America is fucked if there's ever a crisis before 11:00am, on a week end, or on a golfing day......
11 am? Hey he gets up daily at 4 am and "truths" on his website for a couple hours while on the toilet
Yep. And then he watches Fox Misinformation channel in his "executive time" until 11.00 am. Or maybe he's watching that from the toilet, too. I don't know or care, but I do know that he doesn't actually work much. He thinks that signing EO's and hogging the media's attention is somehow "working". Everything else is delegated or ignored.
Back to the days of peasants petitioning the lord to restore their holy days
If I remember something from r/ask_historians, is that peasants had a shit ton of holidays and festivals.
All righty then Ebeneezer...
Remind me how "all these businesses" can be closed if it's really only the federal government actually takes the day off for federal holidays? Like sure some banks do as well, but most companies just stay open
Here in the real US (I.E not has make up fantasy land that he wants his user base to believe in), most companies were business as usual. As most companies only really close for Christmas and maybe Thanksgiving and Easter.
Not to mention that most Federal workers are salary, and their pay includes holidays, if he were to remove the holidays as part of the package, he would need to spend /more/ money on the workers, so it's not like it would be a plus even in his imaginary world. This is ignoring the fact that a good portion of the federal government is also unionized. so this entire plan would fall short before it even hit the water.
Yeah I wanna say the majority of people have less holidays off these days already. Hell even paid holidays (where the business doesn't close but you get 1.5x pay) seem to be shrinking.
Says the man that golf's more than work
Is that in project 2025 ? I dont remember but they are on track for sure.
"MAKE LINE GO UP FOR YOUR OWNERS"
You know those tropes in old cartoons where overworked factory workers are given a union-mandated 3-minute lunch break? That's the future of America.
He's right. This year, everybody's gotta work Christmas.
someone do the fuckin deed already, I'm so fuckin sick of this jackass and all his Republican dumbfucks
fuck him
Didn't he just create like two new holidays?
Yeah Americans have way too many holidays, like two hole weeks per year!
I mean, compare that to the Europeans with their lousy 5 weeks per year, they never take off!
Europeans don't have 5 weeks of holidays. It of course depends on the country, region, and sometimes city, but usually is between 8 and 11 days of holidays (that everyone gets on the same day, like new years or the respective independence day) and between 4 and 6 weeks of PTO, which every person chooses when to take.
Plus no sick days, if you are sick you stay at home, no quota. Optionally some paperwork if the sickness lasts a bunch of time.
Fair enough, I don't know the vacation days in all European countries, but many definitely do
Sounds like the WH chef staff ran out of chicken nuggies
"STFU, Donnie. You're out of your element. "
Working with people in other countries it really make me jealous they have a notional holiday, seeming every month where the business is closed. Really wish the US had more days like that
We have fewer holidays than medieval peasants. Economic historians vary between 150 and 250 work days vs 261 for a Mon-Fri job.
As far as I can tell the US has only slightly less than an average number of public holidays, but the amount of PTO is close to zero for a lot of people.
EU working time directive requires 28 paid days off per year (including public holidays) as a minimum.
Just to be slightly clearer (unless it's changed since Brexit) those 28 days may or may not include public holidays at the company's discretion.
Nepal enters chat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_public_holidays?wprov=sfla1
From this list, it looks like the US and Vietnam are actually tied for the lowest, with 6 each.
One of Vietnam's holidays, Tet, last 7 days, though. So that 12 total days off.
Huh. So they just chill for a week straight? That's pretty cool.
China and Russia with 13, 14.
Where's Cuba?
South of Florida but North of Jamaica.
They work 6 days a week though. So subtract 52 days a year from that 35 and they are 11 days short of the US with 6. They are worse off.
my schools kinda faraway so we got an extra three days of holiday because of the transportation protests
yay political instability?
Don’t worry, Don, the “essential workers” won’t be affected.
And here I thought I would get away without seeing trump bitch about juneteenth..
I didn't even get to take off yesterday. Fuck this guy.
More context, he said this on June 19th, the day Juneteenth is celebrated across America.
It's a holiday to commemorate the end of slavery in America.
He obviously doesn't want any holidays related to black people to be celebrated.
Orangeboi staying true to form and leaning into the idiotic, inaccurate, archaic, and racist “lazy people of color” trope, I see. And on Juneteenth, too. I’m sure that’s part of the subtext he was going for.
This is the first trump post where I saw the members of r/conservative unanimously against the president.
Too bad they'll still support him anyway..
keep up the talk fat man and we'll have a paid holiday for every finger and toe we cut off.
You guys are getting days off?
Why do we use the fall of civilization period known as the middle ages as a standard? Most of human history was hunter-gatherers. One of the better moments was during the age of Rome.
I do hate holidays as a working stiff:
They exist only as a foil to working days- once working days are eliminated, so too will holidays be.
Yeah, non working holidays only take away time for me to serve my corporate billionaire masters. 😤
Don't these holidays cost owners rather than workers, though?
I used to love working holidays as a single guy for that double pay. 🤑
No holidays means only 1x pay 👎 nevermind if you just wanted to take the day off without getting docked.
American workers is this true?
true that our president is an illiterate, racist, asshole? Yup.
How the fuck does it cost money to keep businesses closed.
If Trump tries to take away a federal holiday, that might be what makes somebody finally do it.
Okay, grandpa. Time for bed.
We are all getting fucked by captaitalism
I've been meaning to ask how donald trump intends to "make america great again" when it stopped being "great" shortly after he became president.
You can't make it worse on purpose and then make it better again and say "see! I made it great again"
But i suppose he did do that with the price of eggs. So maybe thats the plan.
Oh well! Like his cognitive function, the plan is failing,
See, he thinks what's happening IS great, so he's winning his battle. It was never to make it great for us, it was only ever to make it great for him and his ilk. Always has been, always will be.
If you want to prevent this from happening get involved in protests and contact your representatives. #nokings #50501
...where there's a whip, there's a way where there's a whip, there's a way. We don't wanna go to war today But the lord of the land says NAY NAY NAY we gonna march alll day, all day, all day.... for where there's a whip there's a way
Quel con !
What the hell is a non working holiday? Last I checked everyone with a real job works every holiday.
What are these "real jobs" you speak of? At the absolutely very least, teachers typically also have off for many federal holidays, are you saying that isn't a "real job"?
If abusing kids was a job the unemployment rate would be damn near 0.