Spyke
neon_novareply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I’m not a Trump supporter in any way, but it’s not excessive.

That’s 21.7 weeks. If he went golfing on the weekend, then he still golfed less than 2 times per week.

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nocturnereply
sopuli.xyz

Est. cost to taxpayers for golf since returning to office: $51,800,000

Perhaps you would not mind paying his golf bill then.

Edit to add: this is roughly $340,789 per day of golfing. Or over 21 years worth of pretax income for someone making minimum wages... for 1 day of golf. Meaning at minimum wages it would take you 3,200+ years to pay for what trump has golfed so far this term. Provided you only put the entirety of your paycheck to that bill.

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Not for nothing, but the headline of the article is talking about time spent golfing, and so is neon_nova's comment.

The thing the President did isn't the problem, or really even the frequency. The problem is the cost to the taxpayer.

'20,000 American's pay for President's golf habit' would be a better title.

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nocturnereply
sopuli.xyz

Which includes room and board for his SS detail.

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lemmy.world

You know were are in a dystopian time when I have to figure out you mean SS as in Secret Service, not the Schutzstaffel.

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WR5reply
lemmy.world

There is a calendar on the site showing which days he was confirmed to have been golfing. There are many on the weekends, but not all, which means "work week" time was spent golfing.

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lemmy.world

Eight days so far during 'work week' time. If he was going on his own dime, this wouldn't be worth talking about.

It just makes a better talking point to say 'he's golfed 37 days out of 152' despite it not being about how he's using his weekends (assuming we hold government to the same 5 on 2 off standard as most of us have) when it's really about how much it's costing.

A better headline would be 'President spends income tax of 20,000 Americans on personal entertainment'.

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WR5reply
lemmy.world

Agreed, but the person I'm responding to made a point about weeks vs. weekends.

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Yes I suppose, just like anything, a nuance here would be whether or not we expect a person of such political authority to be able to have weekends at all.

On one hand, they're still a person working a job and no one should be working 365 days a year On the other, the societal cost, in terms of income tax covering travel and security costs, of having a President that travels every weekend is a bit much.

If the President was only golfing on the weekends, and wasn't charging the government to golf at his own clubs, then this whole thing of him taking leisure every weekend would be a harder thing to argue against without getting into that whole administration work life balance discussion.

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He actually said at his most recent press conference that he's upset because he hasn't been golfing for the last three weeks.

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Look at that 275lb (320?) bag of piss wrapped up in a cheap looking 10k suit shitting his pants. Nubby little fingers. Weird nubby mushroom member (this is from a a legal deposition)

Clearly demented and so insecure he can’t even ask for help.

Dude is in over his head.

The stress is gonna kill him. He knows it that’s why he’s not working.

He is not looking healthy

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pelespiritreply
sh.itjust.works

If he's angry, he doesn't look that bad. If he's just listening, he doesn't look great, almost deflated looking.

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D_Creply
lemm.ee

If he's just pretending* to listen

Ftfy. Everyone knows he never listens.

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dan1101reply
lemmy.world

I hope you're right, but I think like Putin he lives on pure motivated hatred and spite.

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LillyPipreply
lemmy.ca

Kissinger lived till 99. Hatred seems to impart longevity somehow.

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Evil sustains. Not sure why and science has yet to yield answers. One of the Rothschilds would get continued organ transplants to sustain his life, often from organ donors who did not know they were organ donors, usually from third-world countries.

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I feel like the despicable you are and the more people hate you, the longer you live. That certainly explains Kissinger and other real life villains

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Incentivize it, you living malediction. Expand healthcare to allow more hours, increase overtime pay, make it easier to start a business, personally turn a few billionaires into pulp within a massive stadium housing solely seats, cameras, screens, a long spool of rope, and a single woodchipper. Frankly, these aren’t big asks.

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sh.itjust.works

I think one of those industrial grinders that grind up engines and stuff would be even better. Just run it at extra slow speed as you lower them in.

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forrgottreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Nah, keep the machine at full speed, but definitely slowly feed them into it.

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Or just put a bullet in them and redistribute their wealth.

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Run some salt rocks through first, so the blades are nice and blunt, chipped and salty. Salt because we don't want to wait for them to get rusty.....

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For real. You'd think the black hole of failure that Drumph and his billionaire cabinet are, would be the death knell for the fucking prosperity bible. Woodchip them all !!

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meh, I did the quiet quit thing a long time ago. not working harder without a nice raise. I'm urging Americans to work less. go on! take that day off! you can do it!

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drhodlreply
lemmy.world

Americans should definitely take Voting Day off, to maybe vote.

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They could also have voting day on a fucking sunday like the rest of us. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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ahaha... good one. Maybe they will go vote if they get a free burger with fries. Or tacos... 😂🤣😂

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lemmy.world

Of course, Trump is the biggest business idiot in the country. He was largely elected because he is the big, dumb mascot of business idiots.

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sh.itjust.works

I keep seeing Ed's site posted everywhere and we need to promote the HELL out of him!!! It seems he is the only person actually making sense today. I send his articles to everyone I know and urge them to read it.

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I thought the amount of time he golfs would be higher. Every time he golfs we pay the taco when he stays at his properties.

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He intended to golf more but the mind and body are broken.

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I would argue that it's actually FAR better for USA and the world, that he golf as much as possible. He doesn't fuck as much stuff up when he's elsewhere amused......

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lemm.ee

wrong

given he only complains about juneteenth, he is saying that black people should work harder.

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His base legit acts like a class of peasants for this man. It is the most insane thing to watch in real time.

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Given how worker production increasing over time and pay for said production have not stood in line with each other I think I’d rather not.

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The other 78% he reneges on nuclear agreements in place since a decade and threatens war on the behalf of a country that starts with I, probably the Ivory Coast, or maybe Iceland, to blow up another country that starts with I, maybe Italy.

Maybe he sees all these Is and thinks "Yeah, I'm awesome."

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tal
lemmy.today

Frankly, I'd really rather that the Irish Star not encourage him to be spending more time making policy.

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Exactly this. It's better for the world if he plays golf more.....

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lemmy.world

Every MAGA is going to volunteer to work on Saturdays, and every holiday, right? Dear Leader requires it.

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"I DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS!!!" - person that voted for the candidate that promised more work without more pay

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Madison420reply
lemmy.world

God only got one day of rest, you deserve more rest than God?

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SnarkoPoloreply
lemmy.world

I had a pre-MAGA family member say to me "holidays are for Christians, you should have to work!" This is the level of intellect that will control our lives for the foreseeable future.

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It's a distinct lack of understanding given that Jews also have a sabbath day and so does Islam (sorta, it's a day of increased prayer but not literally a day of res) literally every Abrahamic religion I can think of has a sabbath.

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With the amount he plays golf, you'd think he'd be better at it, but apparently he's a chronic cheat at that as well.

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lemmy.world

ahaha... it gets more tragicomic everyday... Tacos, anyone?

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Also dude looks like he takes 4 hour naps a day, why do we keep electing senior citizens

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This monster feeds on media attention. Let's all stop relating every stupid things he says and focus on basically anything else, it will always be more positive.

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our president is a hypocrite?? wow. this is news to me. well thanks for bringing this to light! i'm sure the people will have a change of heart now!

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lemmy.world

I'd recommend Thomas Piketty's 'Capital in the 21st Century' if you're into the deep economics side of all this. Its a bit dense, but really hammers home the point that the period from ~1940 - 1980 in the US was the ONLY period where wealth inequality was declining and therefore it was easier for people to believe that we lived in a meritocracy of some kind where 'adding value' at work actually did lead to added wages. That period has ended, and now inequality and trickle-up economics are reaching all time highs, with no apparent limit in sight.

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lemmy.world

Well yeah

Pensions are fucked globally

Not a single one of you will see any money from it, so better get working

Even better, you guys will probably need to extend the pension age up to 75 or so

Prepare for fun times

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lemmy.zip

I realize this is not the onion but does anyone have a different source?

This looks fake

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Damn it's been a while since a political nottheonion was actually a good nottheonion

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lemmy.world

I hate articles like this. You know weekends are 28% of days right? Can we report on real crazy shit Trump has done instead of these performative outrages?

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lemmy.world

No, I don’t think so.

Biden golfed a total of nine times.

Obama spent 3% of his time golfing.

Trump, 22-25%, depending on the source.

This is crazy shit, a dictator stating people should work harder while spending 1/4th of his time on the course. The presidency isn’f supposed to get weekends off.

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It's also the fact that Drumph whined incessantly about Obama playing golf, and vowed that he himself would be working too hard to ever play golf..... Ironically though, we are all better off the more Drumph golfs rather than "works"......

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Saik0reply
lemmy.saik0.com

Biden golfed a total of nine times.

Biden & Obama weren't a golfer though... so looking at just golf is dumb for them.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/15/us-news/biden-took-off-577-days-in-4-years-tops-modern-era-presidents/

Biden’s out-of-office ratio far surpasses time off taken by Trump — who spent 26% of his first term away from Washington, D.C. — 381 of his 1,461 days in office, records show.

Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama vacationed for just 11% of their two-term presidencies — and workhorse Jimmy Carter took only 79 days of breaks, accounting for 5% of his single term in office.

Obama was low, Biden was stupid high. Trump is in the middle here.

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lemmy.world

The article discussed golf. I replied with golf. It’s apples to apples. You want to butwhatabout the rest of the time? Ok.

Fuck the NY Post. Just another sensationalist rag. If you want to be taken seriously, find a source that isn’t a right wing mouthpiece.

In contrast,The Washington Post, which used White House pool reports, reports that Biden spent 256 days on vacation or at one of his homes in Delaware through May 22, 2023.

Former President Donald Trump spent a little over a quarter of his presidency, around 380 of his1,461 days in office on personal trips.

Trump's time out of office earned a of media attention because he spent most of his time away, around 250 days, at properties he owned -- and would therefore financially benefit from by his presence -- during his presidency.

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However, Snopes comprehensively analyzed the former president's public calendar, research from his administration and pool reports — detailed daily dispatches from the White House press corps tracking Biden's movements — and found that the RNC's claim was inaccurate. It is difficult to define what a "vacation" is for a president, given that a president is never away from duties. Therefore, Snopes determined how many days he was in a vacation setting

Based on this definition, Biden spent 117 or 118 full days of his 1,461-day presidency (Jan. 20, 2021 to Jan. 20, 2025) on vacation, or about 8% of his presidency. He also spent 66 days, about 4.5% of his presidency, partially in a vacation setting.

link

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lemmy.world

Lol, amazingly selective reading where you deliberately skipped past the “apples to apples” statement. I also included two separate sources, which named where and how they got the info, and offered alternative interpretation of the numbers unlike the NYP. Which you obviously spent zero time reading. Just in case you pulled the “your site sucks” bs without any refutation of the actual facts as presented. You butwhatabouted right past everything of substance and offered nothing in return. That’s called “bad faith” discussion, and I’m not wasting time on you. Blocked.

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My sole and only point was exactly what I said, which was that both Biden and Obama weren't golf players. Comparing a specific activity was disingenuous and you did specifically that.

I literally just grabbed the first fucking link I saw because the point was that Biden was out way more than 9 days/times. Your source proved that. My point is done. The rest is in your own fucking head. I don't care what source it is. You're going out of your way being obtuse about how you specifically compare shit.

You call me bad faith, your original post was outright a lie.

Edit: Oh and you complain that I didn't read the NYP... except it calls out George Bush for taking a bunch of time at his estate.

George W. Bush spent 1,020 – or 35% — of his 2,922 days in office away from DC in his two terms, including plenty of time at his Texas ranch, according to tallies by the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

But see, I did read it and you clearly didn't. The numbers specifically don't matter. It's the fact that comparing Trumps primary leisure activity and comparing it to other presidents who don't do that activity is just... dumb. Should be comparing actual apples to apple. Would be comparing all time used, or all time used on primary recreation activity. Golf vs golf is stupid, because the others didn't golf. But see I already explained that and you're just too dense to actually understand the point.

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