TIL my decision to drive a 22' full cab pickup truck and vehemently oppose urban zoning reform makes me a defender of social justice, a warrior for the downtrodden, and more progressive than 99% [cont
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Ah yes, traditional urban cores, historically entirely without any good food options, either delivered, on the go, or even sit-down at odd hours
me in ancient times desperately trying to attach my Gyro Bell order to a dove at 3am
"Stop squirming or I'll just eat you instead, you little bastard!"
I’d imagine DoorDash delivery is a hell of a lot of faster here than the burbs.
Having ordered food in plenty of places that look like this... yeah, it is.
Half the time the guy is riding a bycicle, too. Still faster.
What do you mean, "still?" Even Top Gear acknowledged that bicycles are the fastest way to get around cities!
Most food delivery people in the city either use a motorbike or an electric scooter.
Where I live, the most common food delivery vehicles are ebikes.
Depends on city size I think. Here it's an unmotorized bicycle, or a cheap old diesel car.
Also, in lot of cases you don't even need it. When you live in the city center like that you can just walk 2 min to pick up your order.
Urban cores are full of liberals and at night the pasty progressives sometimes even venture out of their mom’s boyfriend’s basements.
"ADHD-adjacent food services" this person can fuck aaaaaalll the way off
The title is garbage, but ADHD folk can have a lot of problems preparing food, even ordering food.
Having an option if all else fails is a lifesaver (getting regular-ish nutrition & not starving for a couple of days at a time - not a short term issue, but the psychological effects can compound over time ... this is also the segue/mechanic why so many adhd ppl develop persistent depression).
Edit: to clarity - with delivery I just meant
An option some ADHD peeps can use, 100% not an option developed to help with ADHD fuckery.
I hate third-party delivery services, those are just exploiting workers & act monopolistic when it comes to fees they change to the restaurants.
I go get my own food, but it still happens that I can't leave my apparent sometimes so I assumed this does help some people.
I appreciate where you're coming from, but understand this is a very personal issue for me. I've been dealing with it for the majority of my life.
I'm not going to challenge the specific merits of food delivery. But everyone deals with their disorder in their own way. For example, I solve this issue by simply living next to a grocery store in a walkable area. It's something I've worked towards over time.
What infuriates me is someone trying to code something as "ADHD-adjacent" - and in this case, pass it off as though exploitative gig service delivery apps are some kind of accessibility measure. We are particularly susceptible to the weapons of the information age, which has engineered easy dopamine hits within the reach of our fingers at all times. They are NOT there to make our lives better. They are there to exploit, profit, and manipulate.
Oh, yeah, for sure, the garbage (0-sense) title is screaming monetisation of all the things for a few clicks.
I too resolved a lot of my food issues by having stores in the same building I live (and nice restaurants in the 1 to 5 minute walk where I can skip the delivery & go get it myself).
With delivery I just meant
An option some ADHD peeps can use, 100% not an option developed to help with ADHD fuckery.
Speaking as an adhd person:
I cannot afford to use these services.
I cannot deal with their bullshit, and, as someone with marginalized aspects of my identity, cant deal with their spyware.
I can, however, walk about a block to a 24 hour grocery store or pizza place thats open late. If i fucked up.
With delivery I just meant
An option some ADHD peeps can use, 100% not an option developed to help with ADHD fuckery.
I hate third-party delivery services, those are just exploiting workers & act monopolistic when it comes to fees they change to the restaurants.
I go get my own food, but it still happens that I can't leave my apparent sometimes so I assumed this does help some people.
I resolved a lot of my food issues by having stores in the same building I live (and nice restaurants in the 1 to 5 minute walk where I can skip the delivery & go get it myself).
But yeah, not all days, sometimes food is complicated.
If i cant leave my apartment, i cant let the delivery guy in.
Or i can ask a friend whos gonna be by to grab me something.
Nearly every single restaurant had food delivery services prior to Uber/Doordash's existence. Many still have.
I mean, there's a reason pizza delivery scooters have been a thing since the 1980's.
Not only that - if they still do they usually offer lower prices. Even lower if you pick it up yourself.
Those big 3rd-party delivery services sux, they exploit workers (pay, "tips") and restaurants (fees).
Big tech 'disruptions' are just a facade to get monopoly without providing anything new.
I feel seen
Other delivery options help or like pre-ordering pickup on apps have saved my life, but there was a span where I was living on delivery because I couldn’t shop..still kind of can’t figure out what my ‘easy’ foods can be that are also not gonna make my heart hurt.
Honest advice: find something you can do with canned beans and something you can do with boxed pasta.
My easy meals are bean tacos and "fuck it pasta" (uses jarred sauce). They're easy, fine for me, and taste good enough
I have ADHD and never once used and doordash or Uber stuff...I may be all over the place but I'm not an idiot who would willing pay 25-50% extra for nothing .
☝️🗣️ LISTEN UP LEMMINGS, MY PRESIDENT IS TALKING!!
No
☝️🗣️ DON'T LISTEN LEMMINGS, THE PRESIDENT SAYS NO!
Pretty sure I’m not ADHD, but I completely agree on that 25-50% thing. It’s ridiculous. I’ve never had a craving that was bad enough to justify throwing money away.
Come to think of it, if I ever do have a craving that bad, I wouldn’t trust my food to DoorDash. I’ll pick it up myself and make sure my order is still warm when it gets to my house.
Never used a delivery app in my life. This person is just using ADHD as an umbrella term for "impulsive decisions", which is an inherently shitty thing to do.
The extra is to save the time of getting there and back. Mostly not worth it but occasionally that extra 0.5h at home are all that's keeping your house manageable.
Funny how people didn't manage their house/life at all before those overpriced delivery services existed.
What the fuck does ADHD have to do with Doordash?
Literally nothing.
Shitty people will associate ANY impulsive decision with ADHD because they get all their mental health information from short-form content.
Actually, the issue here is executive dysfunction.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23224-executive-dysfunction
Regardless, going for a walk to the restaurant for lunch is a mentally healthy activity for all neurotypes.
Believe me, I'm very familiar with the concept. I simply despise the idea of someone categorizing food delivery apps as an ADHD-specific service.
With ADHD, you can suddenly be depleted of energy, not have the motivation to cook, or simply forget to eat. When you get hungry you can go ," Ah whatever I'll order delivery"
NOW. It may be more prominent in ADHD folk, as myself, but it is not just an ADHD folk issue. This person is just making ADHD their entire personality, and pointing fingers at things they don't like.
Also, I'm almost positive that Madrid( is this Madrid?)has food delivery services.
food delivery services are better in car-light places, because cars (as we all know) fundamentally fucking suck shit.
Executive processing challenged homies love the easy fix of delivery;)
... they deliver food in old city centres like this al the same, they just use bikes or mopeds.
Also non-car food delivery is better, especially during rush hours.
The vehicles are also cheaper in every thinkable way.
I actually had no idea that car food delivery was a thing
Ofc it is (I rarely see it in European cities tho), but Murikans just use their private cars (so SUVs & pickups deliver you fries).
It also happens in Europe outside of the cities due to longer distances for food delivery
I have pretty severe ADHD and I fucking hate food delivery service apps. What is this post even trying to say?
They're saying their mental illness is to blame for their addiction to having fast food delivered and if you don't think they are entitled to these services you are a bigot.
Stupid people say stupid things
My euro brain cannot comprehend that Americans are discussing about it like it’s something weird or exotic let alone anything special.
Love you all and would love to have a huge ass truck and a shotgun and live the Pißwasser advertisement lifestyle, but it’s really just a square. Sometimes they do markets there from like 6am-9am on a Saturday though which is nice if you hate sleeping. Also there’s probably a McDonald’s. Now you know all our town square secrets
Where do I park my truck? I dont see a single parking lot in this pic and im sure as hell not walking
You need to get a smaller truck that fits in your regular one for driving into the city. Like with a yacht, no need to walk, that’s for losers
I can't tell if you're serious about this.
Idk I see a lot of ubereats on bicycles already
LOL
Yeah really like wtf
Carbrains cant imagine how a system that yeets you across the city at 70kmph underground could exist.
What the heck is this convoluted, but incoherent post? OP must have ADHD jumping between these topics and thinking they're related
"my car brain cannot fathom how such places can exist, where is the parking, why aren't there more lanes???"
Most of the delivery services here in the UK even in places with big roads use bicycles, mopeds, or at most a small hatchback car. They can easily fit through that city.
Well yes but see i don't live there and i need to keep driving my ford F50000 fleshreaper, BLOOD FOR THE CAR GOD
Oh goodness, this is reminding me of the SUV/truck hellscape most manufacturers are trying to push nowadays. Even my inner car guy hates those with a burning passion, as it killed so many cool cars.
All equipped with child-killer front ends that are totally crash-incompatible with every normal car.
End the light-truck exemption.
Things are this are why I am so glad for European crash safety regulations. Even an adult getting hit by an F150 must feel like getting hit by a brick wall.
Can confirm, food delivery bikes are a common sight here
Oh, the vehicle was the issue? I though that the central square was deemed to be too confusing for some reason.
Is there an association between adhd and food delivery?
My moomer trait is I just don’t get food delivery.
I feel like that's a millennial trait too, simply because we're all too broke to afford the markup.
Don't... Please don't say it like that. We already had the stupidest sounding generation name.
I guess the devil shits on the biggest pile.
I don't see how anyone can look at those prices and not immediately cancel the transaction. Also the idea of some rando handling my food unsupervised is not appealing.
I would prefer to see a native forest or at least some trees for shade. I could even do with a fountain. I mean, I guess this would be good as a market place but if it's empty what's the point?
I mean... you put things... in it?
Admittedly on big cities these can be a bit of a tourist trap, but they're nice for events and so on.
They're also often in front of official buildings or big monuments, so they often were just... the place where stuff happened. You know, back when giving the news involved shouting them at a group of people.
True, but I guess the locals are not out when the sun is blasting but having a little sleep.
For me it needs way more trees and way fewer people. Like, zero people.
Don’t need the truck. I’ll walk.
American malls were inspired by the town square, if I remember correctly
Kinda the way lots of shitty movies were “inspired” by excellent books.
Do American towns not have town squares? My (European) town has 3, that I know of.
Most modern US towns were basically founded about or after the time cars were invented. Or at least have experienced the vast amount of it's growth since the car was invented. So stores and shops, courthouses, post offices, etc have just been built all over the place.
Not really, we tend to have a "main street" where all the popular businesses are lined up, but otherwise a lot of towns are pretty car-centric.
Fun fact... The mall was invented to replace the town square that an Austrian immigrant architect missed.
Many(most?) older towns did have a town square, many still do in various forms. Though it's not the town square they're about; it's the medium density mixed-use housing.
You're lazy and can't accept that you have no self control. Stop blaming mental illness. Yes people have it. No it isnt the reason you are worthless sack of shit. That's all you.
It feels good that people are finally starting to feel comfortable saying the harsh truths again. We’ve been living in some bs cancel culture the past few years and it is now coming to an end.
That’s Plaza Mayor in Madrid right? Awesome place, often a tourist trap though with overpriced mediocre Spanish food, but awesome.
I think it is, yeah. It has a metro station relatively close by, which food delivery people often use to get around the city center. The streets around it are also very walkable, and you can go by bike. I don't think it is a problem for food delivery at all.
Wtf does that even mean?
22' is rookie numbers. Needs a full box.
Yeah, no. This looks absolutely miserable. Everyone speaks highly of cities, but why do you want to be so close to your neighbors? Why do you want to constantly be in large crowds? I want to be so removed that I have to drive 20 minutes to see another person.
I live in a more rural area these days and I can tell you I have to interact with people a lot more. Back when I was in a city with millions of other people within spitting distance I never interacted with anybody. These days I can't walk my dog without having to have five separate instances of small talk.
I don't mind NPCs, it's the people who sort of know me that are inconvenient.
I still feel like that is better then being just a number in a city. Real relationships with hopefully good people
Hey, happy that you're a social butterfly, I am not particularly excited about real relationships with anybody. At least not all the time.
I prefer when it rains and I'm the only one out, but that's just me.
You dont need to be. Sit in a field and dont talk to anyone and you can still be the only one out in the rain.
I sit on a field on a daily basis and people still talk to me.
People think small towns are like a house over here and a house all the way over there and you don't see anybody unless you try. They're not. They're like a small segment of a city. You just keep bumping into people you know instead of strangers because there's less of you and you all go shop to the same store.
I mean, they are over here. I assume Americans probably have a different read on the matter because they're weird and they do weird things.
Cities are cities, though. You don't talk to anybody because you don't know anybody. I haven't been able to change my coffee order in my usual place here because the waiter just brings me my usual without me saying anything now. In a large city I could order a fizzy enema for breakfast and nobody would bat an eye.
It's not that one is better than the other, but if you want anonimity and social isolation? It's cities all the way.
They ain't good people. Assuming we're talking about the US, 50% are hopeless opioid addicts and the other 50% want the police to kill the homeless opioid addicts
We're not talking about the US and they are mostly good people. The town mostly votes social democrat, if you're curious.
I just don't want to talk to them about the same three things every day, and many days I would love to just walk around with my doggo and play fetch while I think about my own stuff without being social for thirty minutes.
That's on me, all I'm saying is if you're not into the "everybody knows who you are and intrusively talks to you all the time" thing the rural area is WAY worse for your introvert needs.
Its actually worse in the cities. Homeless are drugged out in clumps across the sidewalk. Agriculture side its usually beautiful landscapes with the occasional drug dens out of sight.
Everytime you see this sort of post and want to say something like this, please remind yourself that you can do it today, and please take that 20min to think if saying such thing bring any value to the conversation or if it only makes you sounds like an idiot.
Still more of a conversational starter then being a negative nancy...
You're being a negative nancy here if you haven't realise it yet, nancy.
you do realize that dense cities are literally always in extremely high demand to the point that millions of people are willing to spend absurd amounts of money to live there, right?
it sounds like you have issues
Which I dont understand why anyone would want to spend that kind of money to live in a shit hole... why would someone want to pay to be that close to other people and live in disgusting conditions. I have been to way too many american cities and they are always horrible. Parts of peoples commutes is to step over the homeless who are usually drugged out of their minds. This isnt a "he has issues" its more of a "he doesnt understand the rational"
https://maps.app.goo.gl/26HDou3UJhPQSTPd7?g_st=ac
At ground level it looks like a lot of European cities - not that crowded, pretty buildings, a few trees, and a shit load of traffic.
You lost me at a shit load of traffic. Its a pretty place, but I like grass and no brake lights.
I think it's just trailing from the "America bad so anything remotely like America must also be bad". See: the mention of the Crew Cab pickup.
Definitely is... I live in the USA, so therefore I am the worst of the worst...