Trump was not informed of Ukraine attack on Russia
Trump was not informed of a recent Ukrainian attack on Russia, The Hill’s sister network NewsNation confirmed Sunday.
According to NewsNation’s Tanya Noury, an administration official said the president was not given a heads-up about the drone attack that a Ukrainian security official alleged destroyed more than 40 planes well within Russian territory, according to The Associated Press.
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That’s because trump is a national security risk.
International security risk
International man of Pisstory.
Trump is a global security risk.
Well yeah. The intention was for the attack to succeed.
That seems to be the safer option.
Not like he pays attention during important international security meetings anyways. All they need to do is make the power point more than 3 slides long and more than 45 words.
"We are currently clean on OPSEC"
the level of stupidity involved with formulating this sentence still gives me pause. What the actual fuck are you trying to say, Hesgeth or whatever idiot on the signal chat.... do you really think you're 'clean' on 'opsec' IN FUCKING SIGNAL?
they heard the term opsec from one of their security detail and wanted to jam it in there because it sounded cool.
Plus; why even say it? The assumption is you're clean on opsec until you know you aren't. You still don't say anything more than absolutely necessary where it might get picked up. It's like saying "we're still breathing oxygen". When that changes, you'll know, because all hell breaks loose.
My hypothesis is that it was intentional because they thought it would make it look like they were badasses, instead of the absolute shed of toolboxes that they are.
I wonder whether he still feels embarrassed about that. I intermittently relive minor faux pas, and each one haunts me in a unique way. He said quite possibly the cringiest string of words of all time, and yet his knuckles aren’t white and his lips unchapped and whole. Wonder how he does it.
Narcissism
I think that there's a substantial percentage of the idiot population who are entirely, blissfully unaware of how excruciatingly stupid they are. Sure they make mistakes, but life keeps on trucking, no consequences so it couldn't have been that big a deal right?
Bill-Paxton in True Lies vibes.
I dunno there's quite some contenders in the running, like "Amen, and a-women." 😂
But it's up there!
I remember in Trump's last presidency, Dutch security services hacked into a Russian hacking group that (IIRC) hacked amongst other things he DNC. They even had access to security cameras, and could follow everything being said and done. The info was shared to help the US government secretly defend itself but trump used it immediately for some political bullshit
This directly caused the Dutch operation to be detected and they were kicked out
The director of the Dutch intelligence agencies then, in an interview, mentioned that as of that moment they would no longer share everything with the US as it had become an unreliable partner.
I'm pretty sure this decision is still in effect with this administration. Trump is the US 's worst enemy
That's a bit unfair. trump is the world's worst enemy.
Can’t have that information leak to Putin.
What about trickling down to Putin?
Putin does the trickling down on trump
That's the rumour, certainly.
Yeah why would you tell the enemy of your plans?
Yeah, its pretty typical not to give war plans to an enemy state.
Thanks for the sanity check. I wouldn't think Ukraine's top brass would notify any world leaders of an impending attack, especially one that took so long to plan and with such high stakes. Give me one reason they would?!
Up until now the Ukrainian military conferred with the USA as to what targets to strike. The us provided a great deal of intelligence.
But this isn't the first time Ukraine kept a military operation in secret.
The story isn't about the attack, it's about how Trump thinks he's entitled to all the information.
Why should he be?
Realistically, I can't imagine why he would be.
My guess would be if they planned to use some US-provided wepons in the attack or something like that.
Nor should he be. Ever.
That's why it worked.
That's why it worked.
If Trump expects to be informed of Ukrainian intentions, they should exploit his hubris - use him to spread disinformation and divert Russian attention away from true targets.
Do that a couple times to the point the Russians don't believe it, and then use the correct targets expecting the Russians to protect the other nearby targets like last times instead.
A Poker face is the best strategy.
It seems Donald is beginning to learn that he can't sustainably approach foreign policy and diplomacy as if he's ordering up a Big Mac.
He's not learning squat
I think the facts demonstrate otherwise. It's more accurate to say he's not learning much, and I think that someone like Donald, who has to be the center of international attention, is going to notice when the other national players start leaving him out of the loop.
That Donald reacted to the bond markets panicking in the face of his tariffs demonstrates that someone inside that Administration has the ability to get him to see reason. It's a bummer that they don't bend his ear more often.
Like other successful fascists, his skill is having his finger on the pulse of his supportive factions. The capitalists are less to him important than the rabid foot soldiers, but he still doesn't want them to see him as weak.
Was Trump informed that he is a nitwit and a jackass and should be in prison?
Just put him in a truman show-style mental hospital, he's gonna love it and never give it a second thought. Or...maybe that's what the WH has become at this point...
I heard they were thinking about turning the presidential daily brief into either cartoons or a fake news channel stream just to get him to pay attention.... So yeah, Truman show Whitehouse sounds eerily plausible
I can't even tell if you're joking
Nor should he ever be. Putins puppydog is not on the n2k lists. He just doesn't have the cards
Trump would have tweeted the plans about five seconds after he told Putin so probably for the best.
According to the latest reports, he still doesn't know they happened because he regularly doesn't attend his own security briefings. Not to worry though, he'll be fully briefed this evening when Fox and Friends covers it tonight.
Tell Trump, so he can tell Putin, fuck that....
Holy fucking hell the entitlement.
Honestly this attack was so insane I don't know how Russia could have done anything about it, even if Trump leaked it at the final hour.
It was being prepared for 1.5 years, from what I've heard, so there was a lot to moving parts that could have been screwed up if the information was leaked. At the final hour - maybe not much could have been done to prevent it, but it would have been significantly harder to extract Ukrainian operatives who were involved within Russia.
Whoa, you weren't kidding. I just read the news and saw they damaged 40 planes, damn!
CMD Taco Krasnov can suck it.
17 commenters posted the obvious reason why before I could. The unanimity is sweet.
Oh no, now he's gonna throw a hissy fit about how he wasn't added to the telegram group where they plan the big bada booms :'(((
I just came to up vote everyone. Or I up voted everyone and then I cam....anyway, yeah this is great! Let's hope. Never lose hope. I hope for a quick end to this stupid war and also the one in Gaza.... But not that quick.. Not nuclear quick. Just you know, like pace deal quick... Capture all the nazis and give them a proper sea burial quick type of quick. How about the other planes this week?
Not informed as in nobody gave him the information or not informed as in he was given a report but didn't read it?
U mean special operation right
Trump never attends his breefings, so he's never informed.
Thankfully that means someone in the chain of command knows what the fuck they're doing and rightfully kept this rotted nutsack away from actionable intel. When you know someone is compromised or a spy, you cut them out of the loop while feeding them Intel you want your enemy to have.
I’m sure they tried, but trump isn’t really informed on any subject
No, nobody is trying when it comes to donald. He's on his own and can't be trusted with any information. He can find out from faux news
Anyone who has Russia as a foreign threat.
I think he means who gives a shit whether or not Zelensky informs Putin's puppet about secret attack plans
It ultimately means US intelligence will be sandbox3d not able to share with our former allies. Why would any government share intwl.with the US anymore?
Anyone that wants Ukraine to win and end the war.
Why would you give your enemy plans?