So, I looked up the term on Wikipedia. It sais: "An Internet meme, or meme ([/miːm/], [MEEM]), is a cultural item (such as an idea, behavior, or style) that spreads across the Internet, primarily through social media platforms]. Internet memes manifest in a variety of formats, including images, videos, GIFs], and other viral content. Key characteristics of memes include their tendency to be parodied, their use of intertextuality, their viral dissemination, and their continual evolution. The term meme was originally introduced by Richard Dawkins in 1972 to describe the concept of cultural transmission."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme
I'll let you be the judge of whether this fits that definition or not. (And whether it's worth your time arguing about something being a meme).
Thank god this place doesnt have functioning "moderation". The fediverse is literally the last place on earth where billinaires dont tell you what to do.
Moderation is not bad in itself, it is curating of content to keep topics on track and quality above a certain limit. It has absolutely nothing to do with billionaires or their desires. A lot of subs on different instances are really shitty because of lacking moderation. Leaving subs completely unmoderated is a recipe for a disaster shitpile.
The good old forum days also had a lot of moderation to keep them from turning to shit.
That one is called context. The commenter rants about in their eyes unfitting content would be removed if this place had functioning moderation. This is figuratively the exact opposite what lemmy is about.
Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.
Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.
For a time I lived awakened by the birds and a purring kittty and the golden dawn.
I would evacuate and then make a pot of French press and sit and and enjoy a cigarette and caffeine while my kitty and I watched hummingbirds flit among them flowers.
I would sleep when my work was done and I was tired. I’d bathe before bed and curl up with the kitty purring at my feet.
Minutes are a human construct. Rebel against them.
I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.
As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.
My state has stripped unemployment down to 12 weeks, after that went by after my layoff at Christmas, I got so desperate and depressed and a little bit crazy. As the day is ticked closer to my first missed mortgage payment and car payment, And the thought of homelessness for me and my animals became a sobering reality, I started taking every interview I could possibly find, no preparation, just winging it until something worked.
During that whole process, I saw what the endgame is, we are slaves, but there is no slave master anymore, we do that part ourselves to avoid dying on the street.
So I am very motivated to start my own niche company and get the fuck away from this whole system at this point. Especially since I will have to work until I die, 401ks have all been cashed out during crises.
My condolences on both the awful realizations and the exhaustion of your retirement funds. I feel you on the self-incorporation front. That one keeps coming up for me, especially when times are tough.
Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.
Maybe in America, but in most other places homelessness isn't demonised nearly as much (also America is probably the only place that will make you homeless if you get seriously ill).
I think somewhere in the Nordic states, they've trialled UBI in an area and I think with success.
Edit: So the results are a mixed bag, as you would expect, but generally people were much happier with UBI.
We need to do something about that. We've built this neat "factility" here where you will "live" so you stop breaking the law. Yes, you will have to work there and your windows have bars. What do you mean forced labour? You broke the law by not working!
It's not about being forced to do all that, it's about being forced to do all that so early in the morning in such a rush when most people would rather be sleeping. I hate mornings when I am at the office, but the WFH days are infinitely better because I get a lot more sleep and get to move at my own pace and do things at my convenience. I still have breakfast and brush my teeth, I just don't have to do everything in 30 minutes.
This has triggered a vague memory of a joke by someone (I think Douglas Adams?). But I can't remember the full quote so putting this out there in case someone knows it.
Basically humanity was smarter than other animals because we didn't adapt ourselves to the environment, but adapted the environment to suit us. So now instead of having to adapt we just have to... wake up at 6:45 am when the alarm goes off, drive to work at 7 30 am etc.
Does anyone know it or was I having some kind of fever dream?
Imagine life as a video game where you must find the way through a maze, discover keys and find treasures in order to win.
For example, you must find a way to sustain yourself (a maze), find the key to health (power) and avoid the beasts (corporate control).
People spend thousands of hours playing all sorts of games but neglect to properly play the game of life, instead they accept what they are offered by the power players.
Innovation I tell you, gawd damn innovation... Day late, dollor short. Too much and never enough. Can you smell the stench of toxic positive optimism, the self satisfaction of those that don't think they will be left with the bag. You know the "low level winner" of inconsequential gains.... One extra bowl of slop. The vain and envious.. The non factual lacking in the mathematical. Oh what grand ol world. Capitalism is as natural as a ice pick rammed up my arse.
*To buy goods mass produced by a person working in far worse conditions.
This then feeds into the CPI, which now requires higher priced goods via inflation targeting, and suddenly housing is unaffordable and theres a reverse baby boom.
Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.
I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.
You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.
Even if we completely ignore the overhead involved in buying and selling property, moving is expensive, stressful and completely upends your life. Expecting new parents to move every time they need more room, or even worse, forcing grieving parents to move because no longer "need" the space is ridiculous. If we aren't complete monsters about people only having exactly the amount of space that they need at any given moment means that there will have to be a number of people with surplus space at any given moment. And at any given moment there will also be a number of people who need a place to stay, but may not plan on staying in that one place long enough to make it worth "buying" somewhere to live. So, I don't see how you can stop people from letting others who need a place to live from living with them. So landlords have always existed and always will.
On the same note there's no way to stop 2 people with similar goals from helping each other, so companies will also exist whether you want them to or not.
The answer is maturity. Structure does not hurt if it is chosen voluntarily. It feels good to do things exactly as intended.
Waking up at 6:30 doesn't hurt if sleep started early and without being drunk.
The big tragedy is that society does everything to keep as many people as possible in a state of disarray. People to whom life is as described above don't have the will to leave bad employment situations behind.
Well, nothing is that simple, in fact one of the biggest problems in society is that each of us has their own biological clock, with preferred activity and sleep hours, yet we are forced to align our schedules to the same universal standard. Of course, it is absolutely vital for the way our current society functions (because we, as a society, work together, take classes together, commute together, socialise together, celebrate together, and so on), but it definitely has been hurting billions of people for the past thousands of years and we should look for a way to eliminate this system as soon as possible.
It's one vote away. Every bigger city can have one school for early birds and one for night owls. Then parents can start work whenever they want. For that, companies can have flexible starting times. If they work in shifts, allow people to trade shifts so that some do all the early and some do all the late shifts.
Without artificial light, there were no sleep problems because more than enough hours were darkness. People took breaks from sleep.
you are also (given the motivation) also capable of working your way up the chain and making more money for yourself which allows you to put it towards not working at all and still not living off the state
"Spend less than you earn—invest the surplus—avoid debt. Do simply this and you'll wind up rich."[7]
It's a good thing that separation of corp and state is an inherent part of wage slavery.
Could you imagine if you thought you were making an honest living parasitising some poor business owner with your wages only to find out you were actually living off the state the whole time?
Yeah agreed, I've always tried to follow minimalist living:
Q: What is minimalist living?
A: It’s simply getting rid of things you do not use or need, leaving an uncluttered, simple environment and an uncluttered, simple life. It’s living without an obsession with material things or an obsession with doing everything and doing too much. It’s using simple tools, having a simple wardrobe, carrying little and living lightly.
Agreed. Reading and learning about Indigenous / precivilization world views can also help achieve this in a more holistic way. One thing that the Western / dominant world view only sparingly concerns itself with is sustainability. If we all thought about sustainable living as much as we did keeping up with the Joneses, I'd imagine many people would be happier, healthier and more fulfilled (compared to living a life serving capital).
The whole point of capitalism is voluntary monarchy. Where peasants have to waste their time doing random things to extract productivity from other peasants for the benefit of the select few. And when things go bad for the business, guess who is not getting made redundant?
This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.
The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.
CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.
No of course you don't. You don't even have it in you to create something as simple as a meme. Just mindless scrolling to extend the loop of learned helplessness... Truly sad
instead of hating on random strangers for any and all reasons you can think of - i'd suggest you went out and touched some grass, spring is a beautiful time of year
I know. I have this great green property just outside the city, the second the weather is above 20 degrees I am going there with books and all the stuffs ^^ and will be spending there days if not weeks :)
Maybe even naked wait but was this this thread or I got it fucked up? I had some other discussion going about bare tits with some lunatic
In any case I will have to soon chose which property I want to move to this summer and both have their pros and cons. One is like 500 square meters house but shitty garden and the second is like 70 square meters but the garden is marvelous and I think the second one is just sweet
I don't make mistakes, I'm not like the rest of you, I'm stronger, I'm smarter, I'm better, I AM BETTER. I'm not some weak kneed fucking crybaby that goes around fucking apolgizing all the time and why the fuck would you want me to be? All my life people have tried to control me, rich people, powerful people, tried to muzzle me, cancel me, keep me impotent and obedient like I'm a fucking puppet. And you know what it worked, Because I allowed it to work and guess what, If they can control me they can control you, they already do you just realize it. I am done, I am done apolgizing, I am done being persecuted for my strength, You should be thanking christ that I am who I am, because you need me, you need me to save you, You Do, I am the only one who possibly can. You're not the real heroes, I am the real hero, I am the real hero
Idk what kind of spectrum of gender things do I occupy but I am pretty horny yes. But only for big cock, pretty pussy and shapely, bald balls, also tiddies.
As you can see you have measly qualifications in any of these categories so you can promptly get out of my sight
Unless you can prove that I am mistaken about your qualities
Anyone who uses TikTok should be sent to a reeducation camp and I am not even kidding
Have you ever browsed this shithole? Some happy yuppie go fricking dancing clips so embarrassing that you want to pluck your eyebrows off?
It is a zoomer central and everything that is wrong with the modern 'humans'
Do you remember these HR girls fucking dancing clip Jesus even for this the TikTok should burn. I want to live in a timeline where shit like this is instantly penalized
And also in a place that isn't festered with poverty and hunger like North Korea which was my destination of choice before I learned about the cons. Cons outweigh pros I think in this case
Liberals are the worst people to ever walk this earth. Not only they have complete contempt for tradition but also they cannot see anything outside their own egos
I even prefer god damn marxists Leninists to the liberals because even though they are grossly incompetent and wrong at least are brave enough to acknowledge the reality. Liberals are just huge pussies
And have you seen how smug they are? God, what a bunch of elitist fetishists.
Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company
He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.
The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one
I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?
Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society
You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.
I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?
Yes, very often actually. I live in the US. This is pretty much the attitude of all conservatives when talking about minorities making minimum wage or less. I'm a white male and have been told I should be grateful i have a job by my boss too. One of my friends I used to work with didn't receive a raise when almost everyone else did. He is Latino, and our white boss told him he was privileged to be working there at all. I'm happy for you for never having to experience that, but it is unfortunately all too common.
You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.
His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.
He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.
I didn't say he should be grateful
You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.
You think that's the problem here
You're the one complaining about his mental health.
But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!
He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.
I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?
I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!
The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?
This isn't a fucking meme. It's a great quote, but doesn't belong here.
Almost no modern "memes" are actually memes anymore.
What do you think a meme is?
How isn't it a meme? It's an idea that's been repeated and passed through many people, surviving in its distilled but still exploitable form.
So, I looked up the term on Wikipedia. It sais: "An Internet meme, or meme ([/miːm/], [MEEM]), is a cultural item (such as an idea, behavior, or style) that spreads across the Internet, primarily through social media platforms]. Internet memes manifest in a variety of formats, including images, videos, GIFs], and other viral content. Key characteristics of memes include their tendency to be parodied, their use of intertextuality, their viral dissemination, and their continual evolution. The term meme was originally introduced by Richard Dawkins in 1972 to describe the concept of cultural transmission." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_meme
I'll let you be the judge of whether this fits that definition or not. (And whether it's worth your time arguing about something being a meme).
mods, MOOODS! take’m otta here 🏃♂️🚨👮♀️👮♂️
Sometimes people will only see things through certain avenues. In this case, a not-so-accurate category.
"I know, but I wanted people to see it"
This type of behaviour is bannable on platforms with functioning moderation
Thank god this place doesnt have functioning "moderation". The fediverse is literally the last place on earth where billinaires dont tell you what to do.
Moderation is not bad in itself, it is curating of content to keep topics on track and quality above a certain limit. It has absolutely nothing to do with billionaires or their desires. A lot of subs on different instances are really shitty because of lacking moderation. Leaving subs completely unmoderated is a recipe for a disaster shitpile.
The good old forum days also had a lot of moderation to keep them from turning to shit.
Nuance. As you can see in my comment, i wrote it "moderation" which is supposed to mean the form of moderation that antisocial media is up to.
Nothing in the other persons comment suggests that type of moderation though
That one is called context. The commenter rants about in their eyes unfitting content would be removed if this place had functioning moderation. This is figuratively the exact opposite what lemmy is about.
(User was born after the last BB forum was shut down)
Guess what? This user has been avidly online since the BBS days and really … posters such as yourself were very annoying back then, too.
Language changes. "Meme" used to mean an idea that has taken hold and become part of culture. Now it's any composition of images and/or words posted online.
Yeah, maybe. It certainly is a tragedy. I miss it when memes were just dumb shit which a person with an inane, absurdist sense of humor could appreciate. Politics are everywhere now.
poltiical memes are the original memes lol
For a time I lived awakened by the birds and a purring kittty and the golden dawn.
I would evacuate and then make a pot of French press and sit and and enjoy a cigarette and caffeine while my kitty and I watched hummingbirds flit among them flowers.
I would sleep when my work was done and I was tired. I’d bathe before bed and curl up with the kitty purring at my feet.
Minutes are a human construct. Rebel against them.
Magic and pushing buttons in the right order.
The order is the fiddly bit
Sounds absolutely lovely, alas unsustainable in the current world and at least my current region.
Yes, people are the worst.
I have never been more motivated by the complete absence of a social safety-net, than each day I have spent unemployed.
As Americans, perhaps we behave this way largely to do normalization and indoctrination. And maybe some are tacitly aware of the fragility of this arrangement. But for those of us that have stared into the financial and classist chasm that sits beneath us all, it vastly exceeds any unease you might feel from not keeping up with your peers.
My state has stripped unemployment down to 12 weeks, after that went by after my layoff at Christmas, I got so desperate and depressed and a little bit crazy. As the day is ticked closer to my first missed mortgage payment and car payment, And the thought of homelessness for me and my animals became a sobering reality, I started taking every interview I could possibly find, no preparation, just winging it until something worked.
During that whole process, I saw what the endgame is, we are slaves, but there is no slave master anymore, we do that part ourselves to avoid dying on the street.
So I am very motivated to start my own niche company and get the fuck away from this whole system at this point. Especially since I will have to work until I die, 401ks have all been cashed out during crises.
My endgame is to pull the rug on the whole thing by offering, in a capricious way, something better
My condolences on both the awful realizations and the exhaustion of your retirement funds. I feel you on the self-incorporation front. That one keeps coming up for me, especially when times are tough.
Yeah turns out usa didn't reinvent the wheel super good or something. You have all been scammed under the pretense of liberty.
Now go fix it.
6:30 am? In my city, the streets are already packed with working class people at 6:00 am.
Starting work at 6am? Luxury! In my day we started our day's work the day before, and didn't finish until two days after!
Sarcasm is kind of offensive in some situations. My point is there are people who start their working hours at 7:00 am, but there are cities so big and chaotic that is not rare people need over an hour to get to their workplaces. Millions of people can't wake up as late as 6:30 am. It's a privilege.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE
Ah, thank you. Wasn't quite clear it was a quote from the Month Pythons, no less.
In my burb, workers have to race to the bus, in order to get their bikes into one of two racks.
We never got rid of slavery, we just made them responsible for their own food and housing.
That's quite disrespectful to compare what we have today to actual slavery.
That exact response prevents us from properly evaluating our situation.
Wage slavery is slavery
yes, not every slavery, even historically, has been chattel slavery
It's slavery with gaming qualities and objectives, like kids at a summer camp. Maybe if I get a few more tokens, I can buy a tshirt.
Hmmmm. Sounds like something UBI could solve.
Except there are a lot of people who believe that the homelessness and suffering is natural, correct, and deserved.
Maybe in America, but in most other places homelessness isn't demonised nearly as much (also America is probably the only place that will make you homeless if you get seriously ill).
I think somewhere in the Nordic states, they've trialled UBI in an area and I think with success.
Edit: So the results are a mixed bag, as you would expect, but generally people were much happier with UBI.
Right up until the point it happens to them.
Those people:
Easy. Money. Pay me well and I'll do it.
Best we can do is $3.50.
What do you MEAN no??? People just don't want to work these days!!!
We need to do something about that. We've built this neat "factility" here where you will "live" so you stop breaking the law. Yes, you will have to work there and your windows have bars. What do you mean forced labour? You broke the law by not working!
we live in a culture where the value of your life is measured by how much money you
havecan make for your ownerAin't that the truth.
90% of this is just good hygiene.
A lot of people skip the fighting traffic part of their hygiene routines and it shows smh
It's not about being forced to do all that, it's about being forced to do all that so early in the morning in such a rush when most people would rather be sleeping. I hate mornings when I am at the office, but the WFH days are infinitely better because I get a lot more sleep and get to move at my own pace and do things at my convenience. I still have breakfast and brush my teeth, I just don't have to do everything in 30 minutes.
This has triggered a vague memory of a joke by someone (I think Douglas Adams?). But I can't remember the full quote so putting this out there in case someone knows it.
Basically humanity was smarter than other animals because we didn't adapt ourselves to the environment, but adapted the environment to suit us. So now instead of having to adapt we just have to... wake up at 6:45 am when the alarm goes off, drive to work at 7 30 am etc.
Does anyone know it or was I having some kind of fever dream?
I think this is in the movie "The gods must be crazy" : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gods_Must_Be_Crazy
That's it! Thank you, that was really bugging me. No idea why I thought it was Douglas Adams 🤦♂️
Imagine life as a video game where you must find the way through a maze, discover keys and find treasures in order to win.
For example, you must find a way to sustain yourself (a maze), find the key to health (power) and avoid the beasts (corporate control).
People spend thousands of hours playing all sorts of games but neglect to properly play the game of life, instead they accept what they are offered by the power players.
The difference is that in video games there are rules that you have to follow and you’re actually allowed to win.
Real life the winners already won and wrote the rules
The cheat code is unionization.
— Buckminster Fuller
Wildcat strikes. Unions can be infiltrated.
Shit game, I'm gonna hit reset.
Innovation I tell you, gawd damn innovation... Day late, dollor short. Too much and never enough. Can you smell the stench of toxic positive optimism, the self satisfaction of those that don't think they will be left with the bag. You know the "low level winner" of inconsequential gains.... One extra bowl of slop. The vain and envious.. The non factual lacking in the mathematical. Oh what grand ol world. Capitalism is as natural as a ice pick rammed up my arse.
Hey Bukowski said great stuff when he wasn't kicking his underage girlfriend on camera.
Everyone needs to go watch the movie 'Barfly' right now. Its about Charles Bukowski and it's awesome
*To buy goods mass produced by a person working in far worse conditions.
This then feeds into the CPI, which now requires higher priced goods via inflation targeting, and suddenly housing is unaffordable and theres a reverse baby boom.
Where's the money, Bukowski?
🤷♂️ my 911 seems to make it worth it.
Yea my family seems to like the freedom of not having to do anything financially speaking.
But if you do all this self employed its suddenly fine?
If you do it because you do it for yourself (and presumably want to), it's much better, yes.
If you are self employed, why are you making lots of money for somebody else?
Person you replied to is drunk on the Kool aid, explaining what they couldn't see in the first place won't help.
there is no ethical consumption
Because said person is not having to fear for his life? or worry where the next meal will come and also can have a bath, clean water, clothing, yeah, first worlders crying about living a comfortable life is cringe.
More than one thing can be bad.
yeah, but like, nuclear war and a dropping your icecream on the floor are bad.
Complaining about having a job and a stable life, is kinda... xd IMO.
Hey, why cant we be bombed regularly too, huh? Won't some country spice up my life american style? SAVE ME FROM MY BORING FIRST WORLD LIFE.
I guess, that the most reasonable argument for voting trump i have heard yet, living in a functioning democracy is too boring and opposing oppression is funnier, for that you need a tyrant to overthrow, so you put one into power to see what happens lol. /j.
Only problem is I'm running out of popcorn :(
You are correct, our privileges and opportunities have to be paid for. Things like governments, taxes, companies, and landlords have to exist. Even insurance is a great thing. The problem right now is how all of that is currently implemented in the US.
People do fear for their lives. Get sick and your entire family can end up homeless. Cops are murdering innocent people left and right. People are working multiple jobs and still starving. They are living out of their cars, so they do not have easy access to clean water, baths, clean clothes, ECT. All while, the very government we are all paying to protect us has been taken over by people looking to use it against us.
Companies and landlords don't have to exist though
Even if we completely ignore the overhead involved in buying and selling property, moving is expensive, stressful and completely upends your life. Expecting new parents to move every time they need more room, or even worse, forcing grieving parents to move because no longer "need" the space is ridiculous. If we aren't complete monsters about people only having exactly the amount of space that they need at any given moment means that there will have to be a number of people with surplus space at any given moment. And at any given moment there will also be a number of people who need a place to stay, but may not plan on staying in that one place long enough to make it worth "buying" somewhere to live. So, I don't see how you can stop people from letting others who need a place to live from living with them. So landlords have always existed and always will.
On the same note there's no way to stop 2 people with similar goals from helping each other, so companies will also exist whether you want them to or not.
fine? quite true.
The answer is maturity. Structure does not hurt if it is chosen voluntarily. It feels good to do things exactly as intended.
Waking up at 6:30 doesn't hurt if sleep started early and without being drunk.
The big tragedy is that society does everything to keep as many people as possible in a state of disarray. People to whom life is as described above don't have the will to leave bad employment situations behind.
Well, nothing is that simple, in fact one of the biggest problems in society is that each of us has their own biological clock, with preferred activity and sleep hours, yet we are forced to align our schedules to the same universal standard. Of course, it is absolutely vital for the way our current society functions (because we, as a society, work together, take classes together, commute together, socialise together, celebrate together, and so on), but it definitely has been hurting billions of people for the past thousands of years and we should look for a way to eliminate this system as soon as possible.
It's one vote away. Every bigger city can have one school for early birds and one for night owls. Then parents can start work whenever they want. For that, companies can have flexible starting times. If they work in shifts, allow people to trade shifts so that some do all the early and some do all the late shifts.
Without artificial light, there were no sleep problems because more than enough hours were darkness. People took breaks from sleep.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep
because you also make money for yourself
which allows you to buy things
and not live off the state
you are also (given the motivation) also capable of working your way up the chain and making more money for yourself which allows you to put it towards not working at all and still not living off the state
"Spend less than you earn—invest the surplus—avoid debt. Do simply this and you'll wind up rich."[7]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIRE_movement
It's a good thing that separation of corp and state is an inherent part of wage slavery.
Could you imagine if you thought you were making an honest living parasitising some poor business owner with your wages only to find out you were actually living off the state the whole time?
Embarrassing.
I would recommend people opt out of consumerism as much as possible and focus on sustainable living.
Don't chase the carrot needlessly.
Yeah agreed, I've always tried to follow minimalist living:
Q: What is minimalist living?
A: It’s simply getting rid of things you do not use or need, leaving an uncluttered, simple environment and an uncluttered, simple life. It’s living without an obsession with material things or an obsession with doing everything and doing too much. It’s using simple tools, having a simple wardrobe, carrying little and living lightly.
https://mnmlist.com/minimalist-faqs/
Agreed. Reading and learning about Indigenous / precivilization world views can also help achieve this in a more holistic way. One thing that the Western / dominant world view only sparingly concerns itself with is sustainability. If we all thought about sustainable living as much as we did keeping up with the Joneses, I'd imagine many people would be happier, healthier and more fulfilled (compared to living a life serving capital).
Complete misunderstanding and delusion of how capitalism functions
Care to elaborate on your understanding and reality of how capitalism functions?
The whole point of capitalism is voluntary monarchy. Where peasants have to waste their time doing random things to extract productivity from other peasants for the benefit of the select few. And when things go bad for the business, guess who is not getting made redundant?
who doesn’t get made redundant?
People making company driving decisions, aka CEOs
ceos lose their jobs all the time
This year has seen significant changes in CEO turnover. In the first quarter alone of 2024, outplacement and career transitioning firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported that 622 chief executives announced their resignations. This represents a 50% increase compared to the first quarter of 2023, which was already a record year for CEO exits.
The surge in departures seen earlier this year can be attributed to the evolving business landscape, retirement of Baby Boomers and increased pressure on CEOs to navigate complex issues, including inflation, supply chain disruptions, and environmental, social and governance concerns.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2024/08/19/ceos-facing-job-insecurity-like-workers/
Drop in the ocean, Microsoft alone is letting go of 6,000 people https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-layoffs-d1f2de54ebad6f099deac8fbd3375835
CEOs packages mean they don't need to worry about actually how to pay their rent/mortgage. What do workers get? Few months severance for decade of work. Wake up and see the numbers.
Please read actual books. It helps understanding why that is untrue.
Here's a lengthy book presentation from a german institute (in english). Its not as harsh as i would have written it but its a start.
"I am outraged by the society not supporting my lifestyle of doing nothing but scrolling TikTok all day."
Truly, Nazism in its purest form. We must rebel against such oppression.
have you considered the possibility there's more than those two options?
There would be if you had balls to do things instead of just posting memes about it 24/7
idk if you noticed, but i don't post memes about anything. Are you yelling at an imaginary person, and that'd anger you if they existed?
No of course you don't. You don't even have it in you to create something as simple as a meme. Just mindless scrolling to extend the loop of learned helplessness... Truly sad
instead of hating on random strangers for any and all reasons you can think of - i'd suggest you went out and touched some grass, spring is a beautiful time of year
I know. I have this great green property just outside the city, the second the weather is above 20 degrees I am going there with books and all the stuffs ^^ and will be spending there days if not weeks :)
Maybe even naked wait but was this this thread or I got it fucked up? I had some other discussion going about bare tits with some lunatic
In any case I will have to soon chose which property I want to move to this summer and both have their pros and cons. One is like 500 square meters house but shitty garden and the second is like 70 square meters but the garden is marvelous and I think the second one is just sweet
I don't make mistakes, I'm not like the rest of you, I'm stronger, I'm smarter, I'm better, I AM BETTER. I'm not some weak kneed fucking crybaby that goes around fucking apolgizing all the time and why the fuck would you want me to be? All my life people have tried to control me, rich people, powerful people, tried to muzzle me, cancel me, keep me impotent and obedient like I'm a fucking puppet. And you know what it worked, Because I allowed it to work and guess what, If they can control me they can control you, they already do you just realize it. I am done, I am done apolgizing, I am done being persecuted for my strength, You should be thanking christ that I am who I am, because you need me, you need me to save you, You Do, I am the only one who possibly can. You're not the real heroes, I am the real hero, I am the real hero
Balls? Is that what is needed? I have balls. I guess you need some kind of special balls, dragon balls?
You have some kind of small peanuts, almost undetectable by any scientific apparatus
Brightest minds couldn't tell if there is something there or is it merely an evolutionary vestigality
Oh, what a naughty boy you are. Aren't you, kid?
Idk what kind of spectrum of gender things do I occupy but I am pretty horny yes. But only for big cock, pretty pussy and shapely, bald balls, also tiddies.
As you can see you have measly qualifications in any of these categories so you can promptly get out of my sight
Unless you can prove that I am mistaken about your qualities
3/10 rage bait
Good selection for the target audience, but too incoherent to actually be effective
Scrolling TikTok all day is a symptom not a disease.
It is a cause of everything that happened to our society. Just read the manifesto of Unabomber
Wait that part wasn't sarcastic?
Anyone who uses TikTok should be sent to a reeducation camp and I am not even kidding
Have you ever browsed this shithole? Some happy yuppie go fricking dancing clips so embarrassing that you want to pluck your eyebrows off?
It is a zoomer central and everything that is wrong with the modern 'humans'
Do you remember these HR girls fucking dancing clip Jesus even for this the TikTok should burn. I want to live in a timeline where shit like this is instantly penalized
And also in a place that isn't festered with poverty and hunger like North Korea which was my destination of choice before I learned about the cons. Cons outweigh pros I think in this case
Nazism is when you... surf TikTok?
This is why Democrats lost the last election. Liberals are absolutely brain poisoned.
Liberals are the worst people to ever walk this earth. Not only they have complete contempt for tradition but also they cannot see anything outside their own egos
I even prefer god damn marxists Leninists to the liberals because even though they are grossly incompetent and wrong at least are brave enough to acknowledge the reality. Liberals are just huge pussies
And have you seen how smug they are? God, what a bunch of elitist fetishists.
Lolz. Lmao even.
The only thing Dems seem capable of fighting to protect is the filibuster.
Sounds like a personal choice. Im up before 630 every day without an alarm clock. Try going to bed earlier?
Or just, get out of bed. Like every person on the planet.
Would you rather be nude?
You mean eat? Somebody forcing you? Youre bitching about breakfast?
If pooping/peeing are upsetting to you, you have bigger issues.
Why fight the traffic? You are the traffic. Fighting it is a personal choice.
Your company is successful, is that a problem? You're getting paid too, right?
Who's asking/telling you how to feel about it?
Dude needs therapy
Y'all are missing the forrest for the trees
God forbid someone add a bit of literary sugar to their argument, else they be picked apart by pedants.
Not getting paid commensurate to your contribution to the success of the company
The news, society at large, people like you online posting replies like this very one
Too bad it's unaffordable. Maybe you need to look at the state of society
He doesn't mention how much he is being paid. His complaint is that someone else is making lots of money.
I didn't say he should be grateful, or how he should feel. I read the news, live in society, can't recall ever hearing that I should be grateful for my job. You?
You think that's the problem here? He couldn't afford some help for whatever is going on with him? Or (since you charged me with being part of the problem), could his problems be exacerbated by folks like you, commiserating, raging against the machine of such horrors as waking up, eating breakfast, having a job.
Yes, very often actually. I live in the US. This is pretty much the attitude of all conservatives when talking about minorities making minimum wage or less. I'm a white male and have been told I should be grateful i have a job by my boss too. One of my friends I used to work with didn't receive a raise when almost everyone else did. He is Latino, and our white boss told him he was privileged to be working there at all. I'm happy for you for never having to experience that, but it is unfortunately all too common.
You're reply is disingenuous in the extreme, because nobody is this subtext illeteriate.
He said he is making lots of money for someone else. He is making the money, therefore it is his money, not the money if the other person. It's like the "taxation is theft" people are unable to apply the same logic on the owners of the boots they lick.
You absolutely said he should be grateful for his job, you just didn't use those words. You mocked him for complaining about his job. Those two things are a distinction without meaning difference.
This messaging is all over the media. If you're trying to say it isn't then you're either lying or you're tragically media illeteriate.
You're the one complaining about his mental health.
But no you're right, it's people like me online in 2025 who affected the mental health of the author of the [checks notes] 1975 book, causing him to use [gasp in horror] a literary flourish. Great job there, detective, you cracked the case!
Thank god you didn't embarrass yourself at all!
I don't understand. You don't believe in hiring, paying wages? Like if you hire me to help you build a website, i should keep the profits of what you sell? Or, more directly, if you later sell the website, that money is mine?
I was questioning all his complaints, including having to shit and piss, and said that indicates bigger problems and needs therapy. You hear mocking and "you should be grateful"? Disingenuous in the extreme, nobody is this subtext delusional!
The message is all over the media that I should be grateful, im sorry I literally can't think of a time I came across that. I hear people suggesting gratitude practice as a way of feeling joy, or maybe would expect "you should feel grateful" at church or some religious context, but, I dunno, maybe im very selective about the media i consume?
You're right, you don't understand, and you're embarrassing yourself
Cool thanks for contributing to the convo.
More than you contributed, taking rhetorical flourish as literal in bad faith 🤷
Look videos of apes to undrstand why that's not how it should work.
Your wiki lists being denser than a black hole as your superpower.
says Charles Bukowski needs therapy is a small understatement.