The acknowledgement featured "shot(s)" which also play a very prominent part in the hit musical Hamilton, the origin of OP's meme. It was a poor attempt on meta referential humor on my part.
I usually use UK English to have a sane date formatting (the US format is completely retarded), but you have a good idea. I'll use Ireland from now on.
There are some English words and phrases that can't be said in American English. Like the "I inherited this government position from my father". Or, "Sure hope the King doesn't veto this legislation".
Webster's 1828 dictionary had only -or and is given much of the credit for the adoption of this form in the United States. By contrast, Johnson's 1755 (pre-US independence and establishment) dictionary used -our for all words still so spelled in Britain (like colour), but also for words where the u has since been dropped: ambassadour, emperour, errour, governour, horrour, inferiour, mirrour, perturbatour, superiour, tenour, terrour, tremour. Johnson, unlike Webster, was not an advocate of spelling reform, but chose the spelling best derived, as he saw it, from among the variations in his sources.
Nope.
Although unjerk, spelling reform and standardisation is very necessary for english.
Rejerk
There's no extra 'U's. What you want is your right to exclude the 'U's you don't feel are necessary, it's not the same thing. There was no need for the 'z's but you guys couldn't help yourselves could you!?
How dare Americans pronounce it as (constant sound)-ē like b, c, d, g, p, t, and v instead of its correct pronunciation as one of 2-3 consonants that aren't just their sound preceded or followed by a vowel sound
That being said, my takes on alphabet pronunciation are total batshit, I have beef with H and Q
Years ago I had someone ask me where the exit to the building is. The building occupies a complete city block in NYC and there are many exits. Using the wrong exit could add 15 minutes to your walk.
I asked him where he is was going. He got flustered, said "speak American", and walked off.
On Oxford Street in London, a tourist asked me for directions to Edgware.
At first puzzled by his interest in visiting far-off social housing and knife crime, I quickly realized by his accent what he actually meant and directed him to nearby Edgware Road.
Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴)
Yes, but the guys who made the guide (I mean the developers who assigned each audio track a flag, not the ones recording the audio) might not. I guess that might not even been developed in France and nobody cared enough to fix the bug.
These are what I found after searching literacy statistics for both nations. I haven't gone and checked through the data but it seems that the UK has a lower illiteracy rate than the US.
As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert 'z' into words. It's colonise, not colonize!
Australia follows British conventions. However both spellings are correct and there has been a rise in 'z' over the past few years with American influence.
The way 'herbs' or 'erbs' (as some pronounce it) drives me absolutely nuts.
Also, 'mirror' where it sounds like 'meer' drives me nuts.
I definitely prefer British English. Love reading the old Agatha Christie books. E.g. "My word!" The colonel ejaculated, "I do believe that she's dead!"
I have to say, though, my most favourite American accent is the Minnesota one. Fargo helped make it all sound very endearing. Unsure how they pronounce mirror. Perhaps it's 'meer'.
I don't like using country flags for languages. For one thing, not every language has a country of its own -- there are 700+ languages in use today, but <200 countries. Many languages don't even have any obvious insignia to represent them at all.
If you're making a piece of software and you want it ported to many languages, just use text to represent the language.
I wish there were some internationally recognized symbols to represent languages as distinct entities from their countries of origin, but the idea of trying to make some seems really unpopular for some reason.
There's other languages that have far more politically contentious flags representing them - at least all the English-speaking countries are broadly allies. Spare a thought for the Taiwanese who have to select a People's Republic of China flag, even though the language is as much theirs as it is the PRC's, or the large number of Russian-speaking native Ukrainians who have to select the flag of the country who's bombing them and their families.
The notion of a country owning a language is fraught with toxicity (indeed, Russia's claim to vast swathes of Ukraine leans heavily on it), and if languages had their own flags we could sidestep the whole issue.
French has the fleur De lies which, although it was a symbol of French royalty is still used on the flag of Quebec and some places in Canada identify the French language option with the flag of Quebec.
Realistically, the best option would just be a shorted abbreviation of the language in that language. Ex. Eng for English and deu for German
There is a set of ISO codes for each language, but it's not catchy used as an icon, and are also implicitly Western-centric by virtue of using the Latin alphabet.
I woke up screaming last night because I dreamed I went to grab my colored pencils and they said "colour" on the box. Almost as bad as that time I dreamed I had to take a driving tests and all the speed signs were in KM.
At this point point, people who speak English as second language usually go "awww, how cute, the native speakers really think this is the biggest controversy of English orthography."
Languages and nationalities are not a one-to-one match anyway. What would you expect from a Canadian flag? French, or English? The USA has NO official language, so that makes even less sense.
I wish people would stop trying to replace words with cute little images.
As a Brit I feel like I'm going to have a cardiac arrest from cholesterol buildup every time I have to click the cheeseburger flag; so I can appreciate where they're coming from.
I had a roommate in college royally fuckup huge batch of very expensive ribs we'd bought for a party because the online recipe called for 2 cloves of garlic abbreviated as "garlic - 2c" and he put in 2 cups of garlic powder.
There’s several people that have commented this, and it doesn’t make any sense. It’s called English cause it was invented in England, a country which still exists. There’s also a few claims we changed our language, we didn’t (Posh people created Received Pronunciation. American exceptionalism at its finest.
🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
🇺🇸 English (Simplified)
🇮🇪 English (EU)
🇦🇺 ɥsᴉlƃuƎ
🇨🇦 English (Polite)
🏴 English (Unhinged)
🏴 English (Dragon tongue)
Shots fired.
The Troubles Part 2: It Came From The EU
I'm not quite sure if this is an intentional Hamilton reference or not, but I'm definitely not throwing away my chance to comment on it!
how is acknowledging an irish person making fun of brexit a reference to Hamilton?
The acknowledgement featured "shot(s)" which also play a very prominent part in the hit musical Hamilton, the origin of OP's meme. It was a poor attempt on meta referential humor on my part.
Would you even say you're not throwing away your shot?
i recently got the recommendation to switch locale to ireland in order to get normal date formatting. worked very well.
I usually use UK English to have a sane date formatting (the US format is completely retarded), but you have a good idea. I'll use Ireland from now on.
I use Denmark English for sane date formatting.
Though I don't know why that locale exists.
I'd never know that's English
🇦🇺 English (Felon)
There are some English words and phrases that can't be said in American English. Like the "I inherited this government position from my father". Or, "Sure hope the King doesn't veto this legislation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_Bush
🤔
Also, as far as the "King Veto" part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cromwell
They're not denying that happens in England, just pointing out that it functionally happens in the US too. So I'm not really sure what your point is.
Lol don't watch the news
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes
The last royal veto was in 1708, and any attempt to do so now would probably end the monarchy.
🇨🇦 English (Celeste)
🇩🇪🇩🇰🇳🇴 Traditional?
🇬🇧 English (Traditional)
🇺🇳 English (Simplified)
🇺🇲 English (Dumbified)
Except American English is the traditional. England kept fucking with their language and spelling, and now everything has 6 unnecessary vowels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Historical_origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Latin-derived_spellings_(often_through_Romance)
Nope.
Although unjerk, spelling reform and standardisation is very necessary for english.
Rejerk
Portuguese people clicking on the Brazilian flag to see something in Portuguese 💀
Polish people clicking on the Polish flag to see something in Polish while being in Australia:
I wonder what the Polish, Monégasque, and Indonesian folk do when they win a flag competition?
High-five the group of Belgian, Chadian, and Romanian vexillologists who were also sweating profusely throughout.
Indonesian flag is just the Dutch flag with the blue part being torn out of spite
Celebrate, probably 🤷
You're right. I'm overthinking it!
Then : Kurwa!
*ɐʍɹnʞ
Duolingo does this. English is American and Portuguese is Brazilian. Doesn't make sense.
It makes a bit of sense because Duolingo teaches you the American variety of English and Brazilian.
But still... why?!
yeah I think they should offer the original languages too
Is their Spanish course based on any particular country's dialect?
Presumably demand is why.
It's my right as an American to not have extra 'U's in my words and you're infringing on it!
There's no extra 'U's. What you want is your right to exclude the 'U's you don't feel are necessary, it's not the same thing. There was no need for the 'z's but you guys couldn't help yourselves could you!?
I use American English for the superior compression algorithms and the more extensive import features.
Meh, imports ale too expensive nowadays anyways.
Get obsoleted, King-haver (less of a burn now, coming from Loompa-land 😭)
Tell me with a straight face that the word armor needs a u 😋
The future is now, old man!
Colour is worse. No way. It is color you little shit.
Neither of those rhymes with “or” though.
But it does rhyme with "our", lol
Co-loor
At least we don't pronounce it "zed"
(joking) You deserve more downvotes for this
How dare Americans pronounce it as (constant sound)-ē like b, c, d, g, p, t, and v instead of its correct pronunciation as one of 2-3 consonants that aren't just their sound preceded or followed by a vowel sound
That being said, my takes on alphabet pronunciation are total batshit, I have beef with H and Q
Dang, I really struck a nerve huh? My bad, it was just meant as a playful jab.
You're good, no nerve struck here, just being melodramatic for fun =)
Quite frankly, I'm not sure why your comment is getting downvoted so much XD
Dunno, people are weird.
colour armour labour favour honour harbour
honestly it's just so much more fancy with -our
"Trmp" sonds so mch better.
As opposed to everyone else when they have to click the US flag to get English language options
There is no U in "Boston Tea Party" either.
Bouston Teua Puarty
A tourist wanted some directions so he asked: "Sorry, do you speak American.'
My buddy who can be a purist: "I understand American but I speak English."
Years ago I had someone ask me where the exit to the building is. The building occupies a complete city block in NYC and there are many exits. Using the wrong exit could add 15 minutes to your walk.
I asked him where he is was going. He got flustered, said "speak American", and walked off.
On Oxford Street in London, a tourist asked me for directions to Edgware.
At first puzzled by his interest in visiting far-off social housing and knife crime, I quickly realized by his accent what he actually meant and directed him to nearby Edgware Road.
Traditional English vs Simplified English. I won't tell you which is which.
Traditional English vs Yankee English.
Ah, one more way in which post-colonial America and Mao's China are similar.
One of these days Trump is gonna sue the UK for speaking the American language
"By presidential decree, it will no longer be called 'American English' and 'British English', it will be 'American American' and 'English American'."
The Gulf of Obliviousness
Oblivious, Remastered
Scottish people having to click on a British flag knowing it will display English (there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use 🏴)
I think the Scots having to click on an English flag to read something would piss them off more?
Or are you suggesting having a Scottish flag that displays the site in Gaelic for that 2% of Scots that know it?
I think you're overthinking it slightly.
See? This is why we shouldn't use flags to represent languages.
Go to Brazil, and I bet they use the Brazilian flag to represent the language they speak, not the Portuguese one.
Go to Ireland, and you'll see they use the Irish flag to represent the English language.
In Switzerland, what flag should they use to represent Ladin?
And what about Canada? They speak two official languages.
The correct way to display languages is just their name or they ISO code. Using flags for languages is fundamentally wrong.
I feel like I've seen the Quebec territory flag used for "FR (Can)" which I found amusing as a US hick
French people think Quebec French sounds funny too
You're right, I was, thanks. Good effort btw
Well yeah, but these days, you say you're English, you'll get arrested and thrown in jail 😆
Ami: isn't that the red cross flag?
When I was visiting Paris, a tour bus we got on had a audio guide, the languages were all labeled with national flags.
English -> UK flag French -> flag of France Spanish -> Flag of Spain Portuguese -> Flag of Brazil
Even in Europe Portugal plays second fiddle for it's own language
Yes, but the guys who made the guide (I mean the developers who assigned each audio track a flag, not the ones recording the audio) might not. I guess that might not even been developed in France and nobody cared enough to fix the bug.
Me neither, just lacking a better word.
Sounds likely
Brit here it's our laugauge don't like it? Get your own instead of spelling ours wrong
Canadian here. Choosing between UK English and US English feels like choosing between an abusive father and abusive husband.
We are a reformed crazy dad we are trying to be part of your life but we're still drama
350 million Americans, 70 million British.
Your minority opinion is noted but outvoted, micronation.
Colony
I'm here for this English on regressed English violence.
Regressed English are the Welsh mate the colonys are known as the new indies
Hmmmm yes but the average American reads at a grade 6 level, so I daresay UK beats USA there.
Do you have a comparable statistic for British adults, or could no one afford to fund the study?
https://literacytrust.org.uk/parents-and-families/adult-literacy/
https://www.prosperityforamerica.org/literacy-statistics/
These are what I found after searching literacy statistics for both nations. I haven't gone and checked through the data but it seems that the UK has a lower illiteracy rate than the US.
As an Aussie it really grinds my gears that office defaults to American spelling. And even after I change the dictionary to Australian or UK english it still continues to insert 'z' into words. It's colonise, not colonize!
I thought in Aus and other international areas the Z was considered correct spelling, even though most of the rest follows British convention?
Australia follows British conventions. However both spellings are correct and there has been a rise in 'z' over the past few years with American influence.
All government websites etc use British spelling.
Of course it's worth adding that the Oxford English Dictionary argues (argued?) that the z is proper in British English! I disagree ;-)
What!
My world doth shaketh
Mine too. I had to stop believing in the OED as the foremost authority on correct English!
Besides, they probably put commas in the wrong places over there too.
How do you pronounce that word
Haben Sie schonmal von germanischen Sprachen gehört, wo ein 'S' duraus so wie englisches 'Z' klingen kann?
I bet that sounds really good if you say it out loud
it's worse when it's an American flag because I'm always looking for the British one
British English is the OG English. They should always use that flag.
Old English would like to have a word.
Old English, where is that from?
ingerland
America
You’re another that doesn’t understand “Received Pronunciation”, aren’t you?
Received from the great founders of England: Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Lincoln, and Lord Martin Luther King Sr I.
I don’t get the joke sorry.
yeah otherwise you might as well use the Australian flag or whatever
Or even the Canadian flag, to make it even more fun for the US people lol
ok that's even better yeah
and also Canadian for french, because it's never wrong to mess with the french
Well if we want get technical it's roots are in Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands.
Well if we want to get technical its roots are in the Indo-European which comes from the Iranian plateau
I replied to the wrong person but you are right!
Nou.
Because I said sou.
I replaced the US flag with a UK one on my website for this reason x)
As an American who does web development, "You guys have multiple languages on your websites?"
The way 'herbs' or 'erbs' (as some pronounce it) drives me absolutely nuts.
Also, 'mirror' where it sounds like 'meer' drives me nuts.
I definitely prefer British English. Love reading the old Agatha Christie books. E.g. "My word!" The colonel ejaculated, "I do believe that she's dead!"
In the Black Panther they talk about the "heart-shaped 'erb," and it sounds so strange to me, I always think it should then be "'art-shaped 'erb!"
Wakanda is a high-tech nation hidden in the jungles of the East Riding.
That "meer" thing has to do with where you are in America. Same with words like "roof" or "pecan".
Yep, I'm not doubting that.
I have to say, though, my most favourite American accent is the Minnesota one. Fargo helped make it all sound very endearing. Unsure how they pronounce mirror. Perhaps it's 'meer'.
I don't like using country flags for languages. For one thing, not every language has a country of its own -- there are 700+ languages in use today, but <200 countries. Many languages don't even have any obvious insignia to represent them at all.
If you're making a piece of software and you want it ported to many languages, just use text to represent the language.
Bonus points from TTS users.
The whole concept of multilingual websites is foreign to Americans. There is only one language in their mind.
As soon as Trump was inaugurated, the Whitehouse website removed the spainish language feature
That's for another reason we clearly know
What's language?
yes
I wish there were some internationally recognized symbols to represent languages as distinct entities from their countries of origin, but the idea of trying to make some seems really unpopular for some reason.
There's other languages that have far more politically contentious flags representing them - at least all the English-speaking countries are broadly allies. Spare a thought for the Taiwanese who have to select a People's Republic of China flag, even though the language is as much theirs as it is the PRC's, or the large number of Russian-speaking native Ukrainians who have to select the flag of the country who's bombing them and their families.
The notion of a country owning a language is fraught with toxicity (indeed, Russia's claim to vast swathes of Ukraine leans heavily on it), and if languages had their own flags we could sidestep the whole issue.
French has the fleur De lies which, although it was a symbol of French royalty is still used on the flag of Quebec and some places in Canada identify the French language option with the flag of Quebec.
Realistically, the best option would just be a shorted abbreviation of the language in that language. Ex. Eng for English and deu for German
There is a set of ISO codes for each language, but it's not catchy used as an icon, and are also implicitly Western-centric by virtue of using the Latin alphabet.
Why use many word when few word do.
Ok, it’s driving me crazy.
Who is that? The actor, not the character they’re playing.
Isnt that Lin-Manuel Miranda?
I thought so, thanks!
Lin-Manual Miranda
I thought so, thanks!
https://www.flagsarenotlanguages.com/blog/why-flags-do-not-represent-language/
No visual alternatives to flags were given. (And that's because there aren't any. Flags will do just fine for 99,99% of the public)
I feel like this would be a good alternative:
English
中文
Español
العربية
Français
Русский
That will definitely work, but I personally think the flags are more instantly recognizable.
The unnecessary "u"s haunt us
Or in American ...
I woke up screaming last night because I dreamed I went to grab my colored pencils and they said "colour" on the box. Almost as bad as that time I dreamed I had to take a driving tests and all the speed signs were in KM.
At this point point, people who speak English as second language usually go "awww, how cute, the native speakers really think this is the biggest controversy of English orthography."
(Instead of, you know, everything.)
Its more just the easily memable one.
Sobs quietly
I just want a consistent spelling system.
Use the flag of Scotland and watch the absolute madness in the online threads over everything.
Och! Ye kennae use thir flag withut chenging thae langgage to theis.
The British, when they have to click the American flag for English, and then they see "color" without the "u":
We save it for u wot M8?
Col-or what, that’s what I want to know.
Languages and nationalities are not a one-to-one match anyway. What would you expect from a Canadian flag? French, or English? The USA has NO official language, so that makes even less sense.
I wish people would stop trying to replace words with cute little images.
Speak native american!!
As a Brit I feel like I'm going to have a cardiac arrest from cholesterol buildup every time I have to click the cheeseburger flag; so I can appreciate where they're coming from.
Yeah, but it’s not obvious how many galoshes of diced onion I need when it says 100g.
I had a roommate in college royally fuckup huge batch of very expensive ribs we'd bought for a party because the online recipe called for 2 cloves of garlic abbreviated as "garlic - 2c" and he put in 2 cups of garlic powder.
Fake - you can never have too much garlic.
Honestly at that point just use the whole onion
I saw a New York Times recipe once that called for ¾ cup plus 2 tablespoons of all purpose flour.
They meant 125g.
What flavour of English do you and your colourful neighbours prefer ?
now we have to add Mexican and Indian to the english language O.O
'kulla', or 'kullar' for the Americans
We did. Famously we lost and you got to go your own way and stop paying us taxes.
There isn't an I either.
There's no I in denial
English (simplified) or spanglish? I'll let americans decide which is better
Percentage wise, more percent of the population in England speaks English than in the US.
"hmm... this isn't the right country but let's roll the dice and see what happens"
I did that with a game I installed and couldn't figure out how to fix it. So I just uninstalled the game and tried again...
I just hit the back button. You won’t catch me disrespecting the motherland like that
Ok, ok I may have a solution that will make everyone happy: let's all speak Esperanto! One flag for all!
The US has more native English speakers than the next 3 countries combined. England is 5th on the list. By volume alone, our way is the correct one.
There’s several people that have commented this, and it doesn’t make any sense. It’s called English cause it was invented in England, a country which still exists. There’s also a few claims we changed our language, we didn’t (Posh people created Received Pronunciation. American exceptionalism at its finest.
No, you’re right… developed would be better. Stole bits from everywhere would be even better.
English is a creole that got its own army.
I also like “bastard language”, or “melting pot” will do.