Florida's plan to replace migrant workers with children falls apart
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The bill have allowed 16 year olds to work 8 hours over night with no lunch/meal break while also attending school during the day. It's slave labor.
Isn't his state the same one that removed worker's protections from heat, like mandatory water and cooling breaks for outdoor workers? Or was that Texas? Fuck both him and Abbot in the temple with a crowbar, either way... Fucking ghouls.
Yeah, FL not just removed it, they stated no local areas could implement their own and that contractors were banned from implementing anything of the sort for their employees. Not sure if anyone has checked on hospitalization/ death from heart exhaustion or heat stroke since that was signed in to law.
Who bans employers from protecting their workers?! Seriously!
Uh, conservatives do. This is not a joke, or a "dunk", this shit really happened.
Which I'm surprised no cities have challenged this as a sovereignty issue.
Well, not that surprised, but if you're a city government and figure out that a state government can just completely nullify your labor protections...well, it raises questions of just how much actual legal power you have.
I know that legal power and legal challenges mean absolutely nothing now, considering everything, but still, I'm surprised that the Florida SC hasn't been hit with questions of "hey I thought we had a right to self-organize".
that was texas, florida would do this eventually.
While sane and modern countries use this time to educate children and ensure they don't need to work graveyard shifts during high school even go so far as funding their higher education so they can become highly-functional and productive tax-paying members of society, America begins its foray into bringing back child labor to backfill some of the most grueling and thankless jobs in the country.
Great fucking job you fucks
I don’t think they’re planning on anyone growing up to pay taxes. They wanna make their cash today.
well... isn't this the same crowd that wants to get rid of the IRS?
Yep. "Now that you don't pay taxes, your boss can pay you less and you'll still have higher net pay."
It's all for the oligarchs. They don't give a shit about the people.
Not even that. I don't think there's a larger political force at work than "we need to make more money and we can pay kids the same wages we paid those immigrants, they won't know their rights anyway."
I don't know why they bother. Unemployment is probably going to be rampant by this time next year. No need to work kids to death when they can just starve them.
Republicans fucking suck
Worse. They actually vote.
Rules for thee, not for me...
A season in the fields would do his kids good.
I do believe Mr. DeSatan should put a loaded gun where his mouth is.
His are different and special 💰. Yours on the other hand…
We did this already, why must we repeat the worst parts of history?
When The U.S. Government Tried To Replace Migrant Farmworkers With High Schoolers
That would require morals and an actual functioning vertebrae.
Not the onion.
I think they're expecting an influx of dropping out to enter the
wage slave marketwork force. So for them, it's hitting a triple - less expenses to education, a less educated populace, and a locked-in-for-life service industry workforce.Someone I knew was hard-core conservative and thought forcing (other people's) kids to work was a fucking great idea. When asked about the dangers of working in a industrial kitchen or a meat packing plant he said he wasn't worried about that at all. Insurance companies would never allow it.
He spouted all kinds of other right wing BS that was almost as disturbing. That kind of nutcase is exactly who the fuck thought this would be a good idea.
...until this band of demons gets the likes of donvict to start threatening them if they don't comply with the very worst polices the qons can dream up.
"No sixteen year olds want to work these days"
I understand you are joking, but can never pass up an opening to post this:
newsweek is a conspiracy peddling right-wing rag, please stop driving traffic to them
No. If people stopped posting from every source someone found objectionable there would be zero content on Lemmy.
Newsweek in particular is vile and horrible, and you are driving traffic to them. The argument that there are other news sites with problems is whataboutism, it doesn't address that this news source has a serious problem.
Besides, here's an easy alternative and less problematic source: https://www.axios.com/local/tampa-bay/2025/03/25/florida-child-labor-bill-migrant-workers
(it's not that hard)
Here, just to spite the fash reader source jacketing you.
It's odd that despite having been on Lemmy for a year you've never made a single news or politics post. The very best way to make sure posts are from sources you approve of is to make posts from sources you approve of.
I don't know their past, or their politics, but they are right. Newsweek should be avoided when possible.
I don't tend to post news or politics, I think those posts are rather saturated on Lemmy.
It's pretty ironic my most recent post is a political post, and here's another political news article post I made ... So to say I've "never made a single news or politics post" I think is factually wrong.
Either way, I was hoping to appeal to your conscience here.
I'm not sure I understand your moral argument - you say that there are moral problems with every news source, and if we held moral standards to the sources we used, no posts would be permitted on Lemmy, but ... you know, there are better and worse places to drive traffic, better and worse places to use as a source. It's not all or nothing, you have to know this right?
So, reading between the lines, what I'm hearing from you is that it's not a deal-breaker for you to drive traffic to a website that perpetuates conspiracy theories and seeks to deny people like me healthcare, that these are morally tolerable positions.
I've been thinking about this a lot since reading this article on free speech about how often people will side with "free speech" until it's a topic they don't actually tolerate - e.g. very few "free speech" advocates continued to defend Milo Yiannopoulos after he started to advocate for pedophilia.
Here's the salient point I think the article makes:
In the end, what I'm hearing is you are willing to tolerate a news source that peddles far-right conspiracy theories that aim to strip people of their rights and manipulate people into rejecting science, that these ultimately are tolerable views, ones you are willing to indirectly support by continuing to link to Newsweek and drive traffic there.
Maybe you would not feel the same about linking to a neo-Nazi website directly, or to a Holocaust denial website, or maybe a website that hosts child pornography or advocates for pedophilia - I assume these are views you probably wouldn't tolerate and wouldn't want to be associated with or support even indirectly.
It's OK if my attempt to appeal to your conscience failed - I assumed from the start that we were more likely to be on the same page on this, but I guess I was wrong. Sorry for wasting your time.
same argument as people make with FOSS: if you don’t like it, you can submit a change… it’s an absolute shit argument: not everyone has the time, energy, or drive to trawl sources for new content… that doesn’t absolve the people that do of social responsibility
Dude, seriously FUCK Newsweek. Reddit posts this garbage news clickbait crap all the time. Posting Newsweek trash is just a complete waste of time. Use better, local, independent news organizations instead of a rag that just uses clickbait and sensationalism. Fuck off Newsweek.
I did corn detasseling for 2-half days (we got rained out on day 1) back when I was 12. I imagine those migrants were much more capable and tolerant of the bs than I was. -I remember the humidity in the fields, the mud, and the desire to vomit.
I worked for a greenhouse in the Niagara region. We had maybe 2-3 migrant workers at a time and they worked HARD. My boss once said that he would prefer to hire the students from the local horticulture program but he still usually needs a few migrant workers to make sure we get through the season. He then informed me to look closer at the people working the fields around the area. The amount of work being done by migrant workers would simply not get done if they were kicked out. They make up a majority of the labour required so the grocery stores can put 5000 tomatoes on display at a time.
There are far less teenagers then migrants. Maybe those businesses should move away from exploitation altogether.
-The average conservative voter
Voters? I have no qaulm with voters, I hate that how the elected officials act!
do you not see a connection there?
They act that way, because they know that their voters will still reelect them.
So slaves sorry, prisoners have to pick up the slack.
Remember, the Constitution allows slavery! Plus, it only bans punishments that are cruel and unusual - punishments that are just cruel or just unusual are fine!
This constitution seems to love lines in the sand as drawn by subjective moralists who falsely think they're objective.
Oh yeah, those too, they are definitely next in line.
If you push for child labour and have less osha power to keep them safe plus lower regulations on selling tainted meat then on top all that you have courts that don't hold businesses accountable, you'll end up with people eating children that fall in something like an industrial meat grinder and even if people do find out they don't have to recall it, some may even have a choice if they can't afford something better
What in the 1600
Teens are a really bad workforce to rely on. It's always been understood that kids work for their own benefit, and the business just happens to benefit from that. They need a savings so they can move out on their own when they graduate. This isn't for their benefit, this is so companies can fuel their needs for wage slaves.
Just imagine... Kamala was somehow worse.
/s for those easily triggered assholes
Not a surprise to anyone.
I mean, I’m surprised this wasn’t pushed through the Florida senate.
Considering it’s Florida, yeah I’m a bit surprised. Thankful, but a bit surprised.
Good. But I don't agree with anyone I know that Florida "isn't that bad."
I don't have a map of statistics where bad shit happens, but if I did, Florida would stand out.
It's a fucking swamp. Humans aren't meant for that environment. (Actually, I don't know if humans ever naturally adjusted to swamps, it just seems like tons of horrible ways to die)
There were native tribes living there prior to the Europeans coming.
And they were constantly fighting over the few places humans can live.
Depends where you look.
Next year the kids give santa a lump of coal!
THIS is Why America is on the Decline! Kids need WORK ETHICS not EDUCATION!
-Parents like Elon Musk who Complain about WOKENESS for Why Their Children HATE them!
Good
It would have only worked if those were mining jobs. You know how them kids yearn for the mines. Minor miners.
Sadly, Florida doesn't have the right geology for mines.
Unfortunately for Floridians there are definitely open pit mines in Fla.