One of the most difficult parts of veterinary medicine is the fact that your patients can’t directly communicate. Oftentimes, issues go unnoticed simply because the animal masks things like pain. Luckily, the vet immediately knew this hedgehog had something wrong, because it kept exploding into a bunch of golden rings.
This feels like the equivalent of getting abducted by a superintelligent alien race, being put into a machine beyond your wildest comprehension, and then probably getting a treat and sent back home where nobody will believe you
No shit, I once had the chance to accompany a patient to an large aninmal hospital for an MRI.
The problem: It was so far away that the patient needed to be airlifted. Which was far beyond the capacity of regular HEMS.
So they called in the military and they send a fucking CH-53 cargo helicopter. These things are huge and loud. But cool.
That was one interesting ride. Somewhat embarrassing for the patient (who was not in on weight level due to simply eating too much - patient had a massive and life altering orphan hormonal disease) but patient kept somewhat good spirits and the volunteer fire brigade did a good job blocking the view.
Nowadays human medicine has improved - you can now simply use an open MRI with specialised gurneys. They usually can take more than 400kg, sometimes 500kg.
Does a larger MRI produce more data than a smaller one (same data density over a larger volume), or is it the same resolution spread out over a larger space?
It depends.
MRI and to an even larger extent CT scans are "targeted" to an area.
People are very very rarely scanned "totally".
E.g. you want to look at the cervical spine and therefore only examine this area. While you will also see neighbouring regions these are not necessarily full resolution (only if they can have an impact). So if the imaging run is being done for an area that is not affected much by the fat tissue it won't produce more data necessarily (a cardio MRI is a good example).
If you do a abdominal or pelvis MRI/CT is normally does include all tissue and therefore will produce more data.
(Take this with a grain of salt though, while I worked inhospital for a while I am primarily a paramedic and more into repairing vital signs than radiology. While we have mobile CTs nowadays they are brain only and not my area of expertise)
There is an exception for the real complicated cases like the one I mentioned, though. As we didn't want to do the whole transport effort 4 weeks later again because another speciality found another issue the patient was indeed scanned almost completely" (with breaks in-between as that gets uncomfortable fast).
(Sadly enough the whole thing was done 6 weeks later again,indeed, as the patient had suffered from an acute stroke which later killed them. Sad story,really. Never had a chance in life)
And for multiperson scanning of compatible patients in a dramatically more cancerous pandemic-affected modern cohort with dwindling hospital infrastructure! ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ
Thanks for sharing. How does the fish one work? The dolphin I get because it breathes oxygen, but don’t all fish have gills? I feel like it should be in the water.
I’m in a yoga teacher training at the moment, and a biologist by background. It’s been amazing seeing how the different yogic breathing techniques impact mental and physical states.
Those crazy folks in the Indus valley civilization made a serious study of this, at least 4,000 years ago according to current evidence. Some techniques, like yoga nidra (alternate nostril breathing for several minutes) have significant impacts on nervous system function.
You can measure this directly with a cheap heart rate monitor and an app that can interpret and returns stats on heart rate variability.
Those old yogis made a study out of exploiting our brain’s dependence on oxygen and developed some pretty cool biohacks.
Do you mean the syndrome that causes lightheadedness when standing up?
I found a 2021 research article that shows 6 months of regular cardiovascular exercise improves the condition. Some forms of physical yoga practice are vigorous and get into the cardio range.
I can’t find yoga-specific studies on POTS, but there are many on other conditions that include dizziness and syncope as main symptoms. That’s what a quick google scholar search revealed.
Yoga emphasizes attention and breath awareness during the movement practices. I personally have a job that requires a lot of stooping and standing. At first I was often dizzy standing up, but as my practice has intensified and progressed that has gone away completely.
I don’t know, if your physician clears you for the activity, there are many benefits to it. Maybe worth a deeper look?
And as for general awareness, hell yes. That is the entire focus of yoga philosophy, to quiet the busy mind. The scientific studies on that are plentiful.
mean holding lefty closed with your finger for a few minutes then righty, or does it mean back and forth… surely you can’t do this without manual intervention, right?
Yes that’s the method. It’s improperly called yoga nidra, but the correct term for the method is Nadi Shodhana Pranayama.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean. You describe the method that is used. One holds their own hand to the face with the nose between thumb and index finger. On alternate breath cycles, you direct the breath through alternating sides.
Can’t speak for op but it usually adds cheek. Sans’ use was revived a few decades ago. It tends to alter one’s tone to sound slightly stuffier, like putting on a top-hat and monocle. I’ve also seen it used more randomly by younger people who recently learned its meaning.
Actually most of them (according to a friend who works for a large animal hospital and has some human EMS background) are intubated far easier than humans - and they place a "hand safer" device (if you're old enough to remember the "plastic screw device"-I don't actually remember the actual name- used to open a seizure patients jaw that were once used, they are similar).
Back in my training day we used cats to practice neonatal intubation.
CT scans take much longer, but an x-ray is just a few seconds. I think it's just a practical way to get the bird in place for a quick x-ray, and by practical I mean the vet techs minimize their (very real) risk of being murdered.
I think they lack a diaphragm. It was weird reading in my cockatiel care books that some handling on the neck was fine, but even small pressure to their chest could prevent them from breathing.
The crossovers between veterinary medicine and pediatric medicine are a lot more significant than most people like to think about. The Venn diagram isn't a perfect circle....but it's close.
How long does something need to stay still for a CT scan and can you send water through, just thinking about aquatic animals if you could just send the tank through.
Looking at my axolotl who can happily sit there not moving for hours in the hope of ambushing prey, staying still should be easy enough.
On OkCupid, I once briefly courted a woman with the username "RazeTheAxolotl." One of my opening questions was whether she meant "raise" or "raze." She meant "raise."
I don't think asking that helped with my chances. We didn't end up going on any dates.
They have very long necks. The rest of it is still standing in the lobby, where a nice old lady with poor eyesight is telling one of its legs about her grandson.
I’m sorry, but I cannot stop laughing at this hedgehog 😂
One of the most difficult parts of veterinary medicine is the fact that your patients can’t directly communicate. Oftentimes, issues go unnoticed simply because the animal masks things like pain. Luckily, the vet immediately knew this hedgehog had something wrong, because it kept exploding into a bunch of golden rings.
Free my homie sonic. He done nothing wrong.
Except had a brain tumor causing epilepsy.
It's also the only one that's an Xray instead of a CT
MOISTURISE ME
The bdsm community is leaking.
No pun intended btw.
Wearing a surgical drain is brave all on its own, but that makes me extra inspired!
"That's it I'm taping you down!"
Taped animals were the most interesting of the set.
I love how it's just taped down with like masking tape lol
Otherwise he’d be moving so fast the blueshift would be visibly noticeable
I hope they checked his pockets before the MRI violently pulls a bunch of rings at dangerous velocities!
they made that mfer 2-dimensional
Singer would be proud
why are they MRI-ing a filet? :3
Poor Blaze doing his checkup 🤭
Tiny little hedgehog voice: I've been a bad boy. A bad bad boy.
(Might be a girl having trouble getting my phone to load anymore than a thumbnail worth of pixels)
This feels like the equivalent of getting abducted by a superintelligent alien race, being put into a machine beyond your wildest comprehension, and then probably getting a treat and sent back home where nobody will believe you
i got a CT scan once and am a dumbass so the doctors and technicians might as well have been a superintelligent race
however instead of a treat i got a giant medical bill >:(
My favorite is definitely that poor hedgehog, LOL
Mine are the snake and the taped bird
The dolphin sent me.
They really just folded that snake up
funny sad fact, if a person weigh 600 or more lbs, they sometimes have to use xrays/ct/mri in the zoos that are meant for larger animals.
No shit, I once had the chance to accompany a patient to an large aninmal hospital for an MRI.
The problem: It was so far away that the patient needed to be airlifted. Which was far beyond the capacity of regular HEMS. So they called in the military and they send a fucking CH-53 cargo helicopter. These things are huge and loud. But cool.
That was one interesting ride. Somewhat embarrassing for the patient (who was not in on weight level due to simply eating too much - patient had a massive and life altering orphan hormonal disease) but patient kept somewhat good spirits and the volunteer fire brigade did a good job blocking the view.
Nowadays human medicine has improved - you can now simply use an open MRI with specialised gurneys. They usually can take more than 400kg, sometimes 500kg.
Does a larger MRI produce more data than a smaller one (same data density over a larger volume), or is it the same resolution spread out over a larger space?
It depends. MRI and to an even larger extent CT scans are "targeted" to an area. People are very very rarely scanned "totally".
E.g. you want to look at the cervical spine and therefore only examine this area. While you will also see neighbouring regions these are not necessarily full resolution (only if they can have an impact). So if the imaging run is being done for an area that is not affected much by the fat tissue it won't produce more data necessarily (a cardio MRI is a good example). If you do a abdominal or pelvis MRI/CT is normally does include all tissue and therefore will produce more data.
(Take this with a grain of salt though, while I worked inhospital for a while I am primarily a paramedic and more into repairing vital signs than radiology. While we have mobile CTs nowadays they are brain only and not my area of expertise)
There is an exception for the real complicated cases like the one I mentioned, though. As we didn't want to do the whole transport effort 4 weeks later again because another speciality found another issue the patient was indeed scanned almost completely" (with breaks in-between as that gets uncomfortable fast).
(Sadly enough the whole thing was done 6 weeks later again,indeed, as the patient had suffered from an acute stroke which later killed them. Sad story,really. Never had a chance in life)
I had a patient tell me he had to go to a zoo for an MRI. I thought it was a self deprecating joke but he was serious.
I learned this from Scrubs
This happened in Scrubs.
Obviously we should have bigger radiology machines. It wouldn’t be unreasonable to have them where you have a substantial fat population.
I meant from the perspective of a rational person who cares about health, not an idiot that deserves to have its head chopped off in a guillotine.
And for multiperson scanning of compatible patients in a dramatically more cancerous pandemic-affected modern cohort with dwindling hospital infrastructure! ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ
Do we also get a thread of pictures of animals getting CT scans with their consent?
Thanks for sharing. How does the fish one work? The dolphin I get because it breathes oxygen, but don’t all fish have gills? I feel like it should be in the water.
It can be out for a matter of minutes.
Humans are just ludicrously overdependent on aerobic respiration, our brain metabolism is overcharged to the point of being broken.
Most other animals have a lot more room to function sans oxygen, they're more limited by stored energy reserves.
I’m in a yoga teacher training at the moment, and a biologist by background. It’s been amazing seeing how the different yogic breathing techniques impact mental and physical states.
Those crazy folks in the Indus valley civilization made a serious study of this, at least 4,000 years ago according to current evidence. Some techniques, like yoga nidra (alternate nostril breathing for several minutes) have significant impacts on nervous system function.
You can measure this directly with a cheap heart rate monitor and an app that can interpret and returns stats on heart rate variability.
Those old yogis made a study out of exploiting our brain’s dependence on oxygen and developed some pretty cool biohacks.
Wim Hof breathing is so good from time to time
Have never given him money and think he ventures into pseudoscience but this beginner video is safe (no BS, just breathing)
Yeah, people, don't follow Wim Hof in having enemas on public fountains.
Public fountain? I think you mean community bidet
Anything on there that fixes POTS or general awareness of everything around us?
Do you mean the syndrome that causes lightheadedness when standing up?
I found a 2021 research article that shows 6 months of regular cardiovascular exercise improves the condition. Some forms of physical yoga practice are vigorous and get into the cardio range.
I can’t find yoga-specific studies on POTS, but there are many on other conditions that include dizziness and syncope as main symptoms. That’s what a quick google scholar search revealed.
POTS and cardio
Yoga emphasizes attention and breath awareness during the movement practices. I personally have a job that requires a lot of stooping and standing. At first I was often dizzy standing up, but as my practice has intensified and progressed that has gone away completely.
I don’t know, if your physician clears you for the activity, there are many benefits to it. Maybe worth a deeper look?
And as for general awareness, hell yes. That is the entire focus of yoga philosophy, to quiet the busy mind. The scientific studies on that are plentiful.
Does
mean holding lefty closed with your finger for a few minutes then righty, or does it mean back and forth… surely you can’t do this without manual intervention, right?
Yes that’s the method. It’s improperly called yoga nidra, but the correct term for the method is Nadi Shodhana Pranayama.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean. You describe the method that is used. One holds their own hand to the face with the nose between thumb and index finger. On alternate breath cycles, you direct the breath through alternating sides.
Did I understand your question correctly?
You answered my wildly rambling question—thank you!
Why do you use sans instead of just saying without?
Can’t speak for op but it usually adds cheek. Sans’ use was revived a few decades ago. It tends to alter one’s tone to sound slightly stuffier, like putting on a top-hat and monocle. I’ve also seen it used more randomly by younger people who recently learned its meaning.
Edit: disclaimer and use case
I'm old, from when it was first revived, it's slightly snarky and removes seriousness from a topic in the middle.
You're supposed to hold your breath for a CT, so the fish is just fine for a bit.
... Who said it needs to live.
💀💀💀
Maybe the fish are dead, or not out of the water for too long.
Somehow I don’t think the fish consented to this..
We need higher res photo of Steven the fish
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=683568597141353&id=100064646563264
Some of those seem to have consented after being forced to.
I'm pretty convinced the cat is just being a cat though.
Looks like it's going through some reps
The hamster burritos got me good.
Stopped asking those pesky questions now didn't it?
Stopped asking those pesky questions about what?!?
Grapes
Pretty sure that's a goose, not a duck
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/goose-chasing-guy
Peace is finally an option.
Burrito
🇫 🇷 🇪 🇪 🇭 🇮 🇲
tomorrow is monday again, folks
20 ccs of lasagna, stat!
He is thinking how he is going to hunt and kill all these humans, one by one.
A fucking rhino!?
How many people did it take to get him on the gurney?
I’m guessing they would have some sort of overhead crane to do the heavy lifting
I wouldn’t want to be the one to have to intubate those animals.
Actually most of them (according to a friend who works for a large animal hospital and has some human EMS background) are intubated far easier than humans - and they place a "hand safer" device (if you're old enough to remember the "plastic screw device"-I don't actually remember the actual name- used to open a seizure patients jaw that were once used, they are similar).
Back in my training day we used cats to practice neonatal intubation.
I actually would love to be the one to intubate them!
I don't think animals are ever okay getting CT scanned
Why couldn't that bird get a sleeping bag like the hamster did? Seems a bit drastic taping it down by the neck
The bird is for a normal x-ray. Here's the context.
CT scans take much longer, but an x-ray is just a few seconds. I think it's just a practical way to get the bird in place for a quick x-ray, and by practical I mean the vet techs minimize their (very real) risk of being murdered.
hehe
Random mirror linker btw:
https://farside.link/https://www.reddit.com/r/VetTech/comments/1ge3kh0/modern_art
where's the seed lebirdsky?
😆
Birds have very delicate air sacs. For small birds like that constricting them can seriously damage them and cause issues breathing.
I think they lack a diaphragm. It was weird reading in my cockatiel care books that some handling on the neck was fine, but even small pressure to their chest could prevent them from breathing.
That is correct. :)
Gotta get the wings spread.
Are we the bad guys?
The snake got me laughing. They just folded it onto itself.
What don't Samsung make?
Good phones 🙄
There's definitely two kinds
I can't believe nobody has posted this edit yet
Congratulations! You have won The Internet today.
Pip pip!
The mice got a nice pillow
"Against their will" made me chuckle
The crossovers between veterinary medicine and pediatric medicine are a lot more significant than most people like to think about. The Venn diagram isn't a perfect circle....but it's close.
that goose is gonna kill some mfs when it wakes up
How long does something need to stay still for a CT scan and can you send water through, just thinking about aquatic animals if you could just send the tank through.
Looking at my axolotl who can happily sit there not moving for hours in the hope of ambushing prey, staying still should be easy enough.
On OkCupid, I once briefly courted a woman with the username "RazeTheAxolotl." One of my opening questions was whether she meant "raise" or "raze." She meant "raise."
I don't think asking that helped with my chances. We didn't end up going on any dates.
Depends what imaging technique they're using. X-ray CT might work ok with a little water in the way. Nuclear magnetic resonance might not be so good.
A... giraffe? Are they alive?
Yeah, they’re usually found in the grasslands of Africa and a few other places in the world in addition to zoos and such.
I mean giraffe from the photo.
Or it's just a head with neck 👀
They have very long necks. The rest of it is still standing in the lobby, where a nice old lady with poor eyesight is telling one of its legs about her grandson.
This whole thread has been a hoot, but your comment properly sent me into fits of giggling. I can picture the nice old lady perfectly.
Love how the bird is still smiling
Thanks so much for sharing!
OMG
Amazing post
I have a feeling, most of those are MRT and not CT
MRT machines are much larger than the devices shown here.
I think it might be a sloth bear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloth_bear
That CT scanner is like a D&D magic item that lets you conjure up to 2 hit-dice worth of medicated animals....
What do you mean against their will? Did you ask them politely?
This made me smile! I love it 😀
The only thing animals should be forced to do!
Poor Sonic…
they did surgery on a grape!
That horse one reminds me of a drawing of how a horse was hung as a form of execution for crimes, they had it strung up by it's hooves
First one is the Montauk Monster?!
Ok, now do animals being tortured and murdered against their will. Much much bigger photoset.