Spyke
lemm.ee

Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.

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lemmy.world

Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.

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lemm.ee

Lol, we aren't going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren't rare because they're only located in isolated places, they're rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.

The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven't invested in.

The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a "win" when in reality it's not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it's nothing but smoke and mirrors.

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Ukraine doesn't even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.

However, those aren't the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.

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lemmy.world

I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.

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America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it's just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.

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lemm.ee

Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.

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frezikreply
midwest.social

Doesn't really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie's diseased mind, it doesn't matter what it says, only that it exists.

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If peace is reached and maintained. If Russia doesn't get all of Ukraine, how long is it going to be until they invade again? No one is going to want to invest in building a mine with that hanging over it.

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It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.

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lemmy.ca

Honestly, from everything I've seen so far, the new mineral deal seems pretty good and fair.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

That depends on the deal actually being followed.

Trump has zero intention of following through on any deal he makes, if he finds another option that is more beneficial to himself and himself alone, he will reneg on the deal in a microsecond.

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Ironically, that might be the most useful contribution to eventual peace in Ukraine the US has made for some time now.

Thanks, I guess.

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Well, at least the US did remove a giant obstacle to a lasting peace from the war - Trump.

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You should known that our beloved pumpkin pie is working directly with the back of the future crew to locate the actual dolorian used for the films. With the vast plutonium reserves they will send Elon back in time to the moment Putin was borne. He will the proceed to choke that sonobabich: okay let's see this happening:

88mph.
The vehicle's flux capacitor is activated.
The vehicle is at its maximum hyperbolic pressure MHP. That's when the hyperbolae regarding the vehicle is at Ludicrous hypervelocity.
The tire flames are now converging into the time flux redundonator.
And he's gone! The sonobabich did it!

OK now we switch over to the time Harper lapse camera. Let's see Elon locate and choke baby putin. Wait a minute! Is he breast feeding putin? Holy! That is not a breast! No! The humanity! And putin is actually just Elon sucking on his own. Why didn't we see it?!!

We must send a second dolorian back in time to stop the first dolorian!

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lemmy.world

End the war before even taking office. Kept moving the bar, then eventually just pivoted and pretended there was no bar.

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Echreply
lemm.ee

Just gotta stop testing, ya know?

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There’s no hurricanes if there’s no NOAA. There’s no bird flu if there’s no CDC.

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lemmy.ca

Once again demonstrating how unreliable the American government has become.

It will be a very long time before the international community trusts America.

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opus86reply
lemmy.today

The international community should think of the US as an adversary like Russia or North Korea because that is what it is now.

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Pariah state is the designation I have started to use.

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Good, the US can fuck right off. Trump is a nincompoop as are his followers. No way they’d be capable of solving a geopolitical conflict.

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feddit.org

And with the US-Ukraine Ressource Deal being singed too. So they bascically Held Ukraine at gunpoint Dekanding all their remaining Ressources while Russia raped them. The US is no longer trustworthy. They now sit Back, while Europe will have to steer the War Into a favorable direction, b/c they have to. If Russia eins or loses does Not Matter anymore for US, b/c they will benefit either way.

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The US is no longer trustworthy.

And it will take a lot of time and effort from the Americans to regain the trust of the international community.

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lewdian69reply
lemmy.world

I think the mineral deal is for future resources in unoccupied territory. If Russia wins US gets nothing right? So they can't really fully sit back. But I'll admit maybe I'm understanding wrong. The real key is that Trump got bored honestly.

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Except Trump is a puppet of Putins, to some degree. So he would Not Care about Russia occupiying Ukraine in any way, because He will still get His Deal. And in the mean time, Europe will continue to buy American Arms, making him and His größter Friends rich in the process. I would Not be surprised If He Starts selling weapons to both Sides.

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Not exactly, it's resources in exchange for aid going forward in the form of arms.

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I thought the invasion would end 80 days ago. Trump said so. 🤭🤡🤡🤡

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tal
lemmy.today

This was pretty much what Michael Kofman predicted was going to happen months ago. As long as Russia feels that they can prevail militarily and is making maximalist demands based on that, and Ukraine is unwilling to accept those terms, there's not really much room for mutually-acceptable terms.

Even if they got something on paper, that's not likely to translate to a durable peace.

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slaacaareply
lemmy.world

If the US leadership weren’t idiots, they could have put pressure on Russia to get at least a ceasefire. Instead, they focused on bullying Ukraine.

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talreply
lemmy.today

I don't know how much more pressure can be applied absent direct conflict between the US and Russia, which I don't believe the US will do.

Almost all US-Russia trade is gone, so not much to take away in economic terms.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

In 2021, the US imported $29.6 billion from Russia and exported $6.4 billion.

In 2024, the US imported $3 billion (90% gone) and exported $0.5 billion to Russia (92% gone).

It might be possible to pressure other countries not to trade with Russia via use of secondary sanctions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_Russia

The top party there is China (who I don't think that we're in a position to compel to cut off from Russia).

There's Belarus, which I doubt is going to be compelled to cut off trade from Russia given the state of affairs.

The other top countries are all EU members. I mean, we could try and put pressure on them, but theoretically they should be doing this themselves.

Like, I can understand criticism as to Trump's interactions with Zelenskyy, but I don't think that there's some magic, easy-to-use lever to compel Russia that the White House has in reserve. Maybe weapon supplies to Ukraine are the most-influential left.

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I agree that economic sanctions are nearly maxed out, but as you mention, they could provide more military aid. Instead, that was already delayed last year by Republicans, and recently even intelligence support was suspended, as Russia increased the bombing of civilians. Adding to this, most public quotes were about blaming Ukraine and trying to appease Putin, which significantly influenced how “brave” Russia acted.

The US is free to do with their resources as they please, but if they actually wanted to stop this war, they had the options to move towards to that. Instead the war went on for months without any positive results. The mineral deal can be a good step, but it seems to be the last one, so not sure it will be enough alone.

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thelemmy.club

Putin wouldn't fold. Trump doesn't know how to handle that so he noped out.

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lewdian69reply
lemmy.world

You mean Zelinsky wouldn't fold. Trump never wanted Putin to actually fold.

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HowAbt2dayreply
futurology.today

No peace talks means the US is uninterested in peace. Back to supporting war I suppose.

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lemmy.world

Yes. In exchange for minerals. That is the mineral deal.

Ukraine is selling off their country for this.

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For now. Deals don't last all that long, e.g. Budapest Memorandum

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The deal he signed has little in common with the initial mineral deal, and this one is actually good for Ukraine.

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feddit.nl

The weird thing is that neither BBC,CNN, the Guardian, not my countries newspapers have this news item.

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makireply
lemm.ee

I was gonna say the same. No other outlet is reporting this (yet) so let’s see

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infosec.pub

If you can't trust lebedev's newspaper on russian related matters who could you trust?

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lemmy.world

If you think it looks small now, you should see it next to his deformed penis.

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you know how like...in China or NK they have those "great leader" photos in every house?

He's going to force his dick pics on every house.

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lemmy.world

Question is: now that we got the big loud bully out of the house, can the EU and maybe someone else who is sensible, like Canada, enter the room and bring actual diplomatic value to this sharade?

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jrs100000reply
lemmy.world

Probably not. Russia's motives dont stem from a communications failure. They stem from predatory imperialist intent, and they arnt scared of the EU or Canada.

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lemmy.world

No

The EU will continue funding Ukraine’s war, allowing thousands of people to die on both sides of the war. And they’ll slowly ease on Russian restrictions if they feel like they need it for economic growth.

The EU could force Russia’s hand and end this war but it doesn’t seem like they want to

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Would you rather we give in to terrorists? Or start World War 3?

Russia is the bully that could end this conflict any time they want.

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lemmy.world

See my other comment.

Russia can’t even conquer Ukraine after 3 years. They are only a bully to the little guys.

Europe could easily demolish Russia and their old and tired military. I’m not saying that europe should invade Russia. Ofc not. But this Putin bluff is long gone. And ofc it’s Russia that can end this anytime they want but until they are forced to they won’t. Which bully do you know that returned the lunch money that they stole out of what? Compassion? Just because it’s wrong?

And you are talking about WW3 but the EU is planning to triple their defence budget in preparation for war, so you tell me who wants WW3

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lemmy.world

Russia doesn’t want WW3

They’d get proper fucked. I mean we all would but they’d have no chance.

They play that card because it’s the only card they have and because Europe is happy with the status quo

Trump was trying to fleece Ukraine for parts and Europe did fuck all

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The EU needs to put actual restrictions on Russia, Russian oligarchs and Russian allies/goods, not just a not even fully opaque curtain that is easily circumvented like it is atm (even by EU members).

They also need to properly support Ukraine’s military so that they can repel Russian troops back to Ukraine’s borders instead of just giving them enough ammo and guns that will allow them to continue this war of attrition. Maybe they could use all the resources that Germany sends to Israel for example.

And then they need to do what was said above. Actually come to the table with Russia and negotiate the end of the war.

But atm that isn’t possible because Russia is not being forced to. They made their ground and ofc aren’t keen on giving it back and Ukraine is also not willing to give part of the country to Russia (as they shouldn’t). And the EU politicians are happy to be profiting of this war and shift their economies to war economies in order to fill their pockets further.

We haven’t done shit for climate change and it’s not even being discussed anymore. And it will only get worse.

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lemm.ee

ART OF THE DEAL, BABY.

Member when he said he'd force them to agree on something within a week or something fucking stupid?

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A good thing. The orange cancer will side with Russia anyways. Wish more cough all cough countries would turn their backs and say piss off to that addled old twatwaffle.

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Good. Should have never been there to begin with anyway. Peace talks are between the parties engaged in conflict and a peaceful nation for mediation. The US has not been a peaceful nation for some time with regards to being involved in armed conflicts itself.

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Such a FLOTUS. It's all lies and empty promises, coated in idle boasting. What a fucking loser.

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lemmy.world

Need more Russian lolitas to get Trump off the couch.

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Someone right hook that smug face so they have to wire his jaw permanently.

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lemmy.world

Remember in the first trump term when he assigned Jared Kushner the job of implementing peace in the Middle East? How's the Middle East peace these days?

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Well, nobody knew healthcare, middle east, Ukraine was so complicated.

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”We will continue to help, but we will no longer fly around the world as mediators in meetings,”

Not quite what the headline suggests happened.

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