Spyke
Corngoodreply
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This is our existential threat.

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We really should be turning an eye towards American owned media in Canada, especially since it's almost entirely owned by hard Republican interests (and that would be bad if I had said Democrat as well).

It's insane we can almost all collectively identify Trump as a threat and an enemy, but his disinformation arm isn't.

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lemmy.ca

the west. We made some money in the oil and gas industry

Wrong. You're thinking MID-west. Get over the Rockies and we'll talk.

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They keep telling people to "move back to their own country" so why don't these assholes just move to Florida. Heck, we can probably even crowd source some funding to pay for their damn tickets.

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It would probably be good for them to see how much better Canada has it than the US right now. Our billionaires are living large, but that's about it.

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ALQreply
lemmy.world

As someone from the US, I propose a swap program. One pro-Trump admin Canadian for an anti-Trump admin person from the US.

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Pick me pick me! I even have a reasonably sized vehicle instead of one of the child crunching lane hoggers, and I'm both literate and potty trained (unlike Trump).

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Dude can we rescue the ones from red states first?

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So we were right. The cons and PP by association wanted to concede to trump.

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why don't they just fucking move to America then? jesus, the solution isn't to make canada america, but to move your ass to the country you like then

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spyd4rreply
lemmy.world

Umm. Because you can't just move to another country.

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alsimoneaureply
lemmy.ca

Sure you can! Worst case you end up in Salvator instead but that is still another country.

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sh.itjust.works

Yes, you can. Almost every country has a path to a visa/citizenship somehow. Work visa, student visa, investment visa, expat visa, green card, etc. etc. etc.

It takes some effort, but less effort than trying to install a dictatorship in your own country would I suspect.

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spyd4rreply
lemmy.world

Well. That's my point the original comment made it sound like they should pack up and leave. Not quite that simple.

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If they care so much about how another country works that they want to replicate that where they live, their options are to campaign and make those changes in their country through a lot of political activism and a lot more luck; or move to the country they admire which just requires some paperwork.

One of those options feels harder than the other.

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Aulireply
lemmy.ca

Huh? People don't all the time.

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I get your point, but in what reality does it make more sense to move a country than to move to a country.

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Weird. I wonder what the word "immigration" actually means then and am eagerly awaiting your no-doubt erudite treatise on the subject.

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lobutreply
lemmy.ca

Remember the bots are also trying to sway public opinion as well. The more people hear the same story it creates this false consensus.

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Oderusreply
lemmy.world

Dude in my gym just brought it up. Says we can sign a petition and if we get 10% of the population to sign it, the government will make a referendum and we can all vote on it. He doesn't think Alberta would have to pay back anything like highways, airports, banks and our share of the Canadian debt. Also thinks we can use the USD instead of the CAD which I find funny.

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Phoenixzreply
lemmy.ca

Aahh, to be an ignorant idiot, must be so peaceful

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You'd think so but he's clearly worked up because his team didn't win the big game so he's always thinking of ways to prevent him from choosing the wrong team.

Imagine if the Toronto Maple Leafs quit the NHL because they didn't win the Stanley cup. Who the fuck are they going to play now lol?

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I had a kid at a gym tell me that all i needed to do to get lean was eat more pepper and spicy food.

On an entirely related matter, I exercise at home now.

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We should be carefully taking down names. Not to do anything now, but to hold them to account if another violent insurrection occurs.

Because even if Trump invades, these traitors will likely be hunting down the rest of us, and likely exterminating us as well. We need to be able to identify the traitors.

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Why did countries stop hanging traitors? I'm pretty sure handing your sovereignty to a foreign nation classifies.

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I've thought since Alberta separatism was first mentioned in the oval office that the idea would be to make Alberta be to Canada what Crimea is to Ukraine. The groundwork had been laid and the danger from the US is real. Thankfully, I believe Carney understands how real the US threats are.

How much of this do we see in Alberta this year?

  • Pro-US & Pro-secession information campaigns
  • Pro-secession protests & rallies
  • US, MAGA, & secessionist flags & slogans
  • Violence between pro-🇺🇸 & pro-🇨🇦 groups
  • Support from US-based groups
  • Staged referendum
  • Little green men
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It’d be nice to see the small part of land they’d take with them when the First Nations get theirs first. I’m sure none of the oil and gas is on land that would secede. I saw years ago when Quebec wanted to separate that all the hydro electric would be remaining in Canada and given to First Nations, prob the same for AB.

Can’t even figure out seceding right, maybe they need their own country as a time out to think how dumb they are

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lemmynsfw.com

The stupidest thing Is making Canada one state. You guys should become states 51 to 151 and then take control of the USA government.

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

No, that shit happened and might again who knows.

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Canada wouldn't become a state, and would have no representation if they were annexed. People are delusional if they think they would get full statehood and all the rights that entails.

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lemmy.world

It would be regressive democratically; our MP system is far from perfect, but the electoral college is much, much worse.

Set aside all the things Albertans regularly enjoy and take for granted, and that there is absolutely no way back under the American Constitution, our taxes here would either skyrocket or massively erode our quality of life overnight.

A surface level awareness of things is telling of why it's very bad, but even that's asking a lot these days of the regular fellow who's exposure to politics is limited to what their favorite pundit says.

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I hope nothing but the best for you northern bros, what I see is just the USA like 10 to 25 years ago. 🤞 I hope I'm wrong.

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lemmy.world

Is there a conservative versus liberal heat map of Canada? I’d like to see if there’s connectivity with the US version at the borders.

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alsimoneaureply
lemmy.ca

Just look at the election results.

But no, it's urban vs rural, as expected.

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startrek.website

Ha! As a life long Albertan. We have had this cancer for a very very long time. Up until the NDP won an election a few cycles back the way it tended to work was the only way to unseat a conservative government was with an even more conservative government.

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While I’m sure it’s true of most of the fediverse, hopefully at some point echo chambers can be broken. Maybe the chuds who scream like children at anything they don’t recognize as their ilk doesn’t need to be assaulted with lunacy.

So basically I hope all will leave Meta and the social media platforms of yore, even if they’re mouth breathing chuds. Maybe getting into a dose of friendliness will be their antidote to the big crazy

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Doomberg, the most popular energy market substack poster, has a theory that Trump wanted Carney to win in order to push an east to west pipeline during an Alberta sovereignty crisis. It actually seems to be going all as they predicted, including Trudeau stepping down and Carney then winning the election.

Its a fun theory anyways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kA0JzxylvE

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