Fun fact: the word "factoid" means a false bit of information that is being passed as fact. It doesn't mean "a small interesting tidbit of information".
Though I suppose the official definition will be changed since the proper one is seemingly dead
Quick edit: looks like it may have already been altered.
You know, it should be obvious, but until you brought it up here, I was guilty of thinking of it as just some colloquialism (which it very well may be). But if you think of the suffix -oid, taking "humanoid" for example, you get something that isn't presenting itself as a human. But I didn't come to that conclusion, I just was like, wow, they bop the Pope with a hammer.
Yeah, most lexicons being descriptive rather prescriptive makes etymology one hell of a twisted labyrinth. I agree it's important for a lot of reasons. The last thing we need right now is a State enforcing some kind of "Newspeak"
The snopes article doesn't say it's outright false, just that it's not based on available evidence. So stating it as fact rather than rumor is misinformation.
The Vatican has failed to deny it for over 20 years of inquiry. The impact of this claim is benign compared to pretty much anything else the church has factually done.
If they were physicists they'd hold the tip of the handle with a pinching gesture, then pull the hammer back to horizontal and let it drop. Swinging with a perfect arc it would thud into the pope's head with just enough force to hurt anyone who was still alive, and get a response.
However seeing as they're still using a hammer to test for brain activity - we can assume the Catholic Church isn't that friendly to science or something.
I shit you not, it took the Catholic Church until the 1800's to finally accept that the Earth revolves around the fucking Sun. Maybe the 1750's if someone's feeling generous, but they were still censoring Galileo's and Copernicus's books at that time.
Oh, they did. Telling if someone was really dead was difficult until modern medicine figured it out in the last century or so. People got buried alive by unwitting village elders all the time.
it was common enough that the "Safety Coffin" was invented to help deal with it. If you heard a bell ringing in the graveyard, someone was alive down there.
Same. I had to look it up. In doing my deep research, I learned that they used an EKG on Jonny P II to confirm his expiration. That shit's hilarious. It was someone's job to EKG that OBVIOUSLY dead corpse, lol.
Eh, a lot of the time EMS will do the same thing on a corpse call. It's one of those 'dot your is and cross your ts' things. I'll give the JPdub EKG a pass.
Isn't that what JD Vance did when he visited the pope, killing him?
Since the Trump administration thrives on falsifying news, can't we go in the counter offensive by mass spreading JD Vance killed the pope? I think this would be so funny and his dumb fanbase might actually believe it and start to hate him for it.
Nono, I remember this from JPII's death. They yell his birth name 3 times into his room and then they use the hammer to smash his ring and seals. Dude was in a coma for a just long enough for us to hope for a Undead Pope -> Emperor on the Golden Throne situation.
Reminds me of the dead sailors that would be sewn into their hammock and thrown overboard. And just to make sure they were really dead, they would sew one stitch through the nose.
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What happens if they hit the pope with the pope hammer and the pope sits up and screams "Ow!" ??? 🤔
Do they just keep hitting him with the hammer or do they need to use magic to destroy the undead abomination?
The hammer deals holy damage, so it'll be very effective to keep hitting.
critical miss undead pope deals 15 crushing damage plus disease
Shouldn't the pope be strong against holy damage? Unless...Holy shit someone call Dan Brown!
Six more weeks of winter.
Rossi pra Papa! Você leu aqui primeiro, comigo.
A eleição vai ser decidida na cage.
The hammer does +1d8 radiant damage against undead
[insert monty python "Bring out your dead" sketch here]
"I feel happy! Happy! Hap-" thud
"Thanks for that."
I'm guessing the college of cardinals makes that decision on a case by case basis.
Shell cases, if that hammer is any indicator.
If the pope can't cast Abjure Hammer he doesn't deserve to be pope
Fun fact: the word "factoid" means a false bit of information that is being passed as fact. It doesn't mean "a small interesting tidbit of information".
Though I suppose the official definition will be changed since the proper one is seemingly dead
Quick edit: looks like it may have already been altered.
A really fun factoid is that factoids being false information is not actually true!
Ow, my brains.
I love when a seemingly harmless meme becomes a linguistics debate and then just pure logic
You know, it should be obvious, but until you brought it up here, I was guilty of thinking of it as just some colloquialism (which it very well may be). But if you think of the suffix -oid, taking "humanoid" for example, you get something that isn't presenting itself as a human. But I didn't come to that conclusion, I just was like, wow, they bop the Pope with a hammer.
So thanks.
Which means that OP used factoid correctly.
Yeah, most lexicons being descriptive rather prescriptive makes etymology one hell of a twisted labyrinth. I agree it's important for a lot of reasons. The last thing we need right now is a State enforcing some kind of "Newspeak"
Factlet?
Lol, you could say your comment was a factoid.
Yeah, I was gonna make the joke, but got lazy.
It works under every definition of it, really.
it's fun, but alas, false.
The snopes article doesn't say it's outright false, just that it's not based on available evidence. So stating it as fact rather than rumor is misinformation.
The Vatican has failed to deny it for over 20 years of inquiry. The impact of this claim is benign compared to pretty much anything else the church has factually done.
it's funny and harmless, meme on.
Yes, that is the definition of a factoid
i had never heard that definition of factoid before this thread, personally, so i figured folks might appreciate a source. *shrugs*
So..
Like full swing or just a little tap tap?
He was wearing white, when he went into the room.
Szeth Son Son Vallano wore white on the day he was to kill a pope
Gotta be concave for the conclave!
If they were physicists they'd hold the tip of the handle with a pinching gesture, then pull the hammer back to horizontal and let it drop. Swinging with a perfect arc it would thud into the pope's head with just enough force to hurt anyone who was still alive, and get a response.
However seeing as they're still using a hammer to test for brain activity - we can assume the Catholic Church isn't that friendly to science or something.
I shit you not, it took the Catholic Church until the 1800's to finally accept that the Earth revolves around the fucking Sun. Maybe the 1750's if someone's feeling generous, but they were still censoring Galileo's and Copernicus's books at that time.
reasonable precaution, if you also believe in spirits impregnating a woman who then birthed the son of god, everthings possible.
This is like those warning labels. Someone had to really fuck up to get some of those warnings made. Makes me wonder about this hammer.
Oh, they did. Telling if someone was really dead was difficult until modern medicine figured it out in the last century or so. People got buried alive by unwitting village elders all the time.
it was common enough that the "Safety Coffin" was invented to help deal with it. If you heard a bell ringing in the graveyard, someone was alive down there.
I bet that thing has incredible scaling in a FTH/STR build.
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This guy Souls.
I want to believe this is real
It's unclear. The Vatican denies it, but apparently weirder methods have been used to certify the passing of a pope before, so who knows.
Same. I had to look it up. In doing my deep research, I learned that they used an EKG on Jonny P II to confirm his expiration. That shit's hilarious. It was someone's job to EKG that OBVIOUSLY dead corpse, lol.
Eh, a lot of the time EMS will do the same thing on a corpse call. It's one of those 'dot your is and cross your ts' things. I'll give the JPdub EKG a pass.
iirc it was until the 19th or 20th century then....
It's to make sure they STAY dead.
Unsanctioned resurrections are strictly forbidden.
Or next thing you get two pope lines and one of them messes around with your vampire boyfriend
But if it's during Easter, is it really forbidden?
Or is this Jesus being a jealous prick?
They like to keep the bodies/relics so maybe there is a wack'a'pope machine in the vatican
Dunno about you, but I'm bopping the bishop right now bb.
Pics or it didn't happen!!
The inventor of this method: „he was dead before I hit him. I was totally just checking with my medical hammer, you guys. Believe me.“
Everyone who wants a promotion, raise your hand! Keep them up if you believe my story!
I FEEL POPE-Y! I FEEL POPE-Y!
Isn't that what JD Vance did when he visited the pope, killing him?
Since the Trump administration thrives on falsifying news, can't we go in the counter offensive by mass spreading JD Vance killed the pope? I think this would be so funny and his dumb fanbase might actually believe it and start to hate him for it.
Can anyone proof he did not Kill the pope?
Were you there? Talked to someone in person who was there?
If not, all the information you/i/we have got most likely delivered as a bunch of hackable pixels.
Just askin' questions
You cannot prove a negative, so he did it.
Now that's a reference
It's giving Midsommar
Should hit him with a Klingon pain stick.
Glory to the Vatican house! Yesterday was a good day (for the Pope) to die!
Except this time the pope asked them to do it while Vance was in the room.
not sure which definition of “factoid” i should be using here…
"Popehammer" sounds like the name of a Catholic Power Metal band...
I can't offer you that, but that pope hammer does look awfully square.
That would be Wytch Hazel
A made-up factoid would have said seven hits with the hammer, so I guess this one is true.
Does a squirrel listen and determine good pope, bad pope?
Nono, I remember this from JPII's death. They yell his birth name 3 times into his room and then they use the hammer to smash his ring and seals. Dude was in a coma for a just long enough for us to hope for a Undead Pope -> Emperor on the Golden Throne situation.
Needs more JPEG.
Reminds me of the dead sailors that would be sewn into their hammock and thrown overboard. And just to make sure they were really dead, they would sew one stitch through the nose.
it's great work if you can get it.
How about a holy tazer? You know, a little twitching goes a long way.
New DnD artifact dropped.
Holy hammer of Popeslaying.