Apparently, due process is unrelated to an illegal deportation without due process case.
DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated…..
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
Locking this topic because y'all clearly can't stop trying to argue politics. Please use the relevant comms instead and not the comments of YPTB posts.
This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it's never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.
So they're lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte's regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.
Hilariouschaos seems to pop up a lot here lately
There’s a good reason for that.
Hilariouschaos and Lemmy.today tend to be known to be the conservative instances.
Hilariouschaos is one person pretending to be multiple people. Unhinged behavior
How do you know?
Half joking but it's the vibe I get. Not sure how many actual people there are but the admin(s) definitely has multiple accounts and talks to themselves in "themed" communities. Like the Governor Chris Christie account
today is only 'conservative' thanks to one very prolific poster. Some of us are sane. Block 'that' user (and all the alts, I guess) and the community he posts in.
Hmm, I don't know if I can do the bang within a hyperlink, so here ![email protected]
That community only has one user.
I got into a discussion with two of the admins there. They basically have every intention to sit on their hands and do nothing at all about that troll, even though proof was brought right to their fucking doorstep.
So it seems .today is going to be his own little personal echo chamber.
mrmanager of lemmy.today is just a bartender keeping to himself
They protect Universal Monk and his alt characters even after having been given evidence. They basically chose not to bother looking into it.
I'm about ready to block the instance. Not much of value will be lost.
Nothing at all will be lost. They’ll still show up in the modlogs. That’s where I saw this idiot’s work.
I think I was banned from there for calling out one of Universal Monk’s alt characters. I still see his shit show up in the logs.
Idk when chuckles became a mod or admin but they’re eleventy times worse than Alice.
It’s certainly chaos but there’s a distinct lack of hilarity.
Alice is okay, just a bit overenthusiastic with niche communities.
Chuckles seems to be a completely different level
"He's MS-13!" Prove it in court then. Fuck me I'm tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy 'debates' about it.
Oh yeah, that guy is a real dipshit.
Yeah. And what’s sad is that he seems to revel in it. How fucking pathetic must one’s life be to find joy in being a massive pile of shit?
Some people are so poor that all they have in life is money.
I mean, a concerted effort to lie about known facts in a massive disinformation campaign, is unironically a reason why he is in office now. Though no way they see that context.
This is my now daily(?) suggestion for admins to defed from HC and for users to block it
I definitely think LW needs to defederate from them. There’s little they offer that doesn’t have a better alternative elsewhere.
somewhat new to Lemmy, how can a user block an instance? so far all I’ve been able to figure out is blocking individual communities
If you’re on desktop, click on the arrow by your username in the top right. Then click Settings. On the next page, click on Blocks and scroll all the way down to Block Instance to type in an instance name.
If you’re on the Voyager app, go to Settings, then Filters & Blocks and scroll all the way down to Blocked Instances to type in an instance name.
Methods may vary for other browsers/apps.
Blocking an instance (unfortunately) does not stop users from that instance from replying to you or from you seeing their comments. You’d have to block the individual accounts as you see them.
Depends on what app you use.
For Voyager you go to settings > filters & blocks > add instance
If they were willing to defederate Exploding-heads for being a hate filled extreme right wing instance they should defederate HC for the same or similar reasons.
That they preventivly defederated from hexbear.net but haven't done shit with HC or threads says everything about lw.
Nazi instance supporting Nazis, not a shock.
PTB, clear and simple. Someday they will be mass defederated. I don't think my instance gets them, but I haven't been looking for more digital self harm by reading Nazis advocating for my kind to be removed.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
One can dream.
Damn. Well, still glad I didn't go looking for them.
He was a non-citizen, but had protected status. Specifically, a judge had ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador, which is where Trump et al. deported him to (e.g., in direct violation of a federal judicial order). The deportation proceedings had no due process at all, which is to say, he was never given a hearing after being arrested, never given a chance to speak to an attorney, etc. All of which is illegal.
We have our very own r/conservative (degrogatory) now.
Why can't they stay on their shit and be miserable there, they always follow us around and try and wreck whatever we make like the petulant whiny brats they are. I don't go into their shitholes, why can't they just stay out of our house
Because they can’t stand being around other people like themselves.
Because conservative idiots aren't content talking to each other in their own spaces, they seek to force their ideas onto other people, even those who wish not to listen to them. It's why they shut exploding-heads down, they were widely defederated and couldn't force their ideas onto other people easily.
Because they're utterly devoid of original thought and creativity and crave the attention.
They're every annoying prepubescent sibling you've ever had, but in the guise of a fully grown voting adult.
this is the million dollar question
The Judge that so heavily rebuked Trump is a Reagan appointee
The immigration judge literally said there was no proof he was MS-13.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.0_1.pdf
Trump's attempts at "proving" he was MS-13 was a laughably bad photoshop of "ms13" across his knuckles that took exactly 5 seconds of searching to disprove.
Obviously
Yeah. I think what I’ve seen is that Trump and his dipshit administration is going off of some unsubstantiated bullshit claims by the police.
That’s apparently all they need now.
The absolute bonked-zonkers thing about this is that they've fully memory-holed that even if this guy was undeniably part of MS-13, the group they were going after and who they had authorized this extra-judicial violence against was tren de aragua. Members of MS-13 should still, under their initial claims, not be able to be deported without trial like this.
Don't give them so much credit. He won because of voter suppression laws targeting groups who typically vote democrat, and general laziness from democrats resulting in low voter turnout like usual.
Both can be true
So you think the ninety one million people are lazy democrats? Not a single lazy “I refuse to vote in protest” socialist among them?
Why would a socialist ever vote for the Democrats?
Because they understand iterated game theory. (Watch the first video at https://www.cgpgrey.com/politics-in-the-animal-kingdom/ and you might understand it, too.) FPtP means you vote for the a candidate that has a chance to win. Among those candidates you pick your most preferred / least bad option.
(Other videos at that link provide alternatives to FPtP that would better represent that preferences of the populace, and some areas in the U.S. do use non-FPtP for some parts of the election process.)
You'll never change the system by complying with the system.
That's just not true. There's a lot of change that is incremental and comes from within.
That said, if you have enough fighting the system to do that you absolutely can't find time to cast a vote, please do that.
And, I also agree that the system is going to be trying to change you instead, but it's going to be trying to do that whether you "comply" or participate or not. It is possible to vote without being instantly and irrecoverably corrupted.
game theory doesn't determine human behavior or elections, which depend on human behavior
Human behavior can be modeled. It is often modeled quite well with game theory.
We do have to be cautious tho. Models can let you derive a lot of results, but some or all of those results may not apply to reality depending on how much your model differs from it.
We know the iterated game theory model is largely valid because it is derived in the absence of historical examples and but history shows it in action repeatedly, albeit imperfectly.
So, while I agree on principle, I don't agree that it is the "dunk" / refutation of all game theory that you think it implies.
no, it's not
Because our only other option was what we have now. It was never a good trade for anyone. But take a look around and ask yourself if Kamala would have done ANY of this shit.
Hell. Just take the damage trump’s little pet gremlin Elon has done.
Think about it. There would have been no DOGE under Harris.
That alone should have been why socialists should have voted for the democrat.
Another reason is Project 2025. He TOLD them what was going to happen. In detail. So again, there was plenty of reasons to use their vote defensively.
They chose not to.
And let’s throw in the fact that this discussion and the entire comment section wouldn’t have existed under Harris. And that is because the post would have existed. And that is because it wouldn’t have happened. And that is because we would all still have a right to due process.
In the event that they, or you- need and further answers to why they should have ever voted for a democrat- I’d suggest they read the news…
… every fucking day, for the next four years.
Ah yes, the least-worst option voting tactic, which ensures only one of two corrupt, incompetent parties can ever win the Presidency. Hardly vote inspiring is it? Do better.
So in a least-worse voting situation, you’re suggesting that the ideal course of action is inaction?
Has no one told you how voting works?
Oh and by the way, this conversation is a direct violation of the rules of this community isn’t?
Your input has absolutely nothing to do with the PTB in question. Is this a “rules for thee” situation? Because you’ve removed my comments in the past for delving into the topic of the posts that were removed, so I’m just trying to understand where the goalposts are here.
Number of times Unruffled has advocated for the solution of attending any of the protests going on right now: As far as I can tell, 0
Number of times Unruffled has advocated for the solution of not voting for Democrats: Jesus Christ I think I'm going to puke
I'm simply responding directly to your comments. I agree we have strayed from the original topic, so will leave it there.
How it works in your country you mean? Where voters have basically no say in the candidates they can vote for, and are attacked and disparaged by both major parties if they have the temerity to vote for a candidate they actually like? Sounds like a healthy "democracy" to me, sure. The whole point of a democracy is voting for folks who represent your views. If neither of the two mainstream parties reflect your views then you are completely disenfranchised under that system. Accepting the premise that only one of two parties can ever win a Presidential election means that you have already given up on democracy. Holding your nose and voting for the least worst candidate only serves to prop up the two party system in perpetuity, and ensures your views will never be represented in the future.
As we all know, the best argument against harm reduction is "Things aren't perfect so I will hurt everyone EXCEPT my enemy as much as possible to punish them. But not my enemy."
Is there evidence for this?
No, there isn't.
Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…
Jill Stein was a spoiler candidate to help Trump
There can be only two candidates to choose from, and both will be genocide supporters, and you will be happy you have a vote.
That's what they're supposed to do, doesn't mean it's what they do in practice.
https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/democracy-now/clip/why-jill-stein-attended-moscow-dinner-with-putin-and-flynn
https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-how-why-i-will-stop-kamala-harris-winning-white-house-1961100
no she wasn't
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-jill-stein-favorite-politicians-1980202
https://fairvote.org/jill-stein-and-spoiler-season/
this doesn't prove your claim.
Wake up.
prove the claim.
No, I'm not interested in doing your homework for you. Prove I'm wrong.
There was a reason she didn’t run in 2020 and that’s because her interference wasn’t needed that year.
that's the year I voted for Howie Hawkins. you're just spreading a baseless conspiracy theory
It’s baseless that she didn’t run in 2020?
And if significantly less than that 38% had voted for Harris when Trump told them he would destroy America, they could have beaten Trump.
Maybe folks don't want to vote for their own oppressors, whether the oppressor in chief is Trump or Harris? But Harris would have been less oppressive you say? Tell that to the working poor who have ballooned in numbers under both Democrats and Republicans. And tell it to the Palestinians, most of whom were killed with Biden's bombs.
Riiiight. Yeah. Let’s all take a look around and see how we are SO much better off as a result of your inaction.
My inaction? I'm not American. And neither do I accept the pitiful attempt of Democrats to deflect blame onto everyone but themselves for their embarrassing loss to a literal moron. You lot fucked around with plutocracy and reached the endgame early. Sucks to be you I guess.
As I’ve said before, I have had comments removed from here for bringing up something unrelated to the PTB. Even though it was related as it involved the same mod, it was removed anyway.
Now you’re here to debate a topic unrelated to the mod or the topic, even after I’ve said that I won’t discuss it with you here because I’m following the rules that were cited as reason for the removal of my comments in another post.
Probably because there were only a few guns found, and he sent mixed messages including telling people to be peaceful and later to go home. I've even seen threads here where people admit it wasn't a real insurrection. It was less violent than things that have happened in places like Seattle - and I get that different rules apply at the Capitol - but bottom line it wasn't a slam dunk as disqualifying him in the public's opinion.
Revisionism
Ask for the guards' takes on what happened instead
I have heard the guards takes and I think I have a grasp on the nature of the event. I've also watched tons of videos including unprompted violence and also the guards letting people in, giving no resistance at all. It was a fucked up day, but was anything I said untrue?
what are you gonna do about it?
grow up, either grab a rifle and start shooting at political candidates or vote for the lesser evil, you can't sit in the corner and cry like a 5 year old waiting for the teacher to come and defend you.
This is the real world, nobody is gonna help you but yourself.
Yes, it is unfair, it is fucked and it is bad, but really, what are you gonna do about it?
what are you gonna do about it?
there are lots of other options
Yeah all those "gEnOciDe" trolls have mystically vanished since then ...
There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse
you're making that up.
I saw them with my own eyes.
can you show me?
No, that's not what they said, and I still see most of those names posting around Lemmy all the time
Usually saying "toldja", fun y enough
Either we're not talking about the same crowd, or you need to work on your reading comprehension
I haven't gone anywhere. Frankly you're a piece of shit for implying everybody who cared about gaza was a foreign troll. The fact you're entirely lacking empathy for foreigners and only care about your own sheltered ass doesn't mean we're all like that. Scumbag
What's happening in palestine is blatantly abhorrent, but voting dem would have ended in a much more favourable outcome (not a good outcome, but better).
If you mean a more favorable outcome in Palestine, I... don't think so. I mean I voted for Harris, and a mostly democratic ballot from top to bottom, but I really don't think she would have changed the behavior of Israel in Palestine or even significantly change U.S.A. actions that support that behavior.
But, she wouldn't have trashed our relationship with every trading partner, ruined the NIH and FDA, published military plans in the newspaper. She might have been better on trans rights, but maybe not. So, yeah a more favorable outcome overall, at least IMO.
While I wasn't referring to Palestine specifically, I feel it would have been tangentially more preferable, but still awful for Palestine.
I think she would have been on par with biden on trans rights.
that user is always occupying the ever-common Lemmy superposition of dunking relentlessly on people for being pro Palestine, but then if pressed will desperately act like they're also pro Palestine and claim that it's your responsibility to prove why they're not.
This one you're replying to in particular is also just a chauvinist who loves calling Russians orcs
I don't think those people are dunking on people for being pro-palestine, they're dunking on them not voting because of Palestine.
A charitable read is that it's only dunking on people for the electoral choices, but the racist comment history and shitty previous interactions I've had with this particular user is why I don't have any charity today.
Believe it or not, not everyone is a shit stain American who got to vote for one of your two shitty mainstream candidates, both of which support Israel to the hilt.
My parties? I'm Irish and all three of our major parties support palestine.
Average 'anti-racist' lib.
Edit: a word
This “superposition” tactic has a name: Motte-and-bailey argument
Is that similar to being pro-Palestine while they’re being invaded yet pro-Russian while they’re invading?
No, and
I thought non citizens also had a right to a fair trial?
with due process exceptions, anyone can be labelled 'non citizen' and treated without due process.
either everyone has due process, or no one is.
They did. And if you read a few of the comments here, it’s somehow the fault of the democrats?
They're supposed to. But unfortunately Trump and his DOJ are wiping their ass with the Constitution. So I wouldn't count on any due process in this country for the next 4 years unless we can replace Congress and get that fucker out.
Chuckles the clown should be put on blast everyday.
The administration of HilariousChaos aren’t any better as they don’t have any control or want to have any control over the people in their instance.
The entire instance is a fucking joke in name only. I was invited to make an account there around when they started by some kid named “Alice.” I noped the fuck out the minute I saw what it was:
A shit-tier wannabe cover-band of 4Chan’s greatest hits.
Is it mostly traitor lunatics or just random stuff including the traitors?
They need to be found and blasted, that way no one has to deal with them anymore
e: there’s another symbol from France Americans could learn from.
Good point!
And once again they move the goalpost and there's absolutely fuck all we're going to be able to do about it. 2 weeks ago we were angry that people were kidnapped and sent to a deathcamp. 1,5 weeks ago we were angry that people didn't even get a trial. 1 week ago we were angry that someone wasn't "supposed" to be sent to the death camp. Now we're angry that they say this man was a gangmember without evidence.
The discussion has moved from "sending people to death camps is fucking insane", to "it's okay to send people to death camps, as long as they're gang members".
This post is a big part of that goalpost moving.
Don't let them shift the narative. Yes, everything that is happening is wrong, but focusing on them lying about him being a gang member, shifts the narative to a point where it's okay to send people to foreign death camps, as long as they've done something the state deems criminal (in this case, being a gang member).
This post’s focus is simply about an asshole mod that thinks it’s funny to troll people using a moderator’s authority.
The fact that the guy has no criminal charges or what his association is isn’t relevant to the point, other than the reason said asshole mod chose to use as a way to troll someone.
Even if he were a "gang member", it doesn't matter.
It's absurd that libs buys into these tropes. It's a big part of their support for fascism.
Chuckles the clown is an accurate name. Hilarious chaos is not.
Well said… and I don’t know if I want to know what your username means, but I’m intrigued.
Inspired by an alcoholic shot called a Buttery Nipple. It's delicious but I didn't quite want THAT as my username.
/me websearches drinkIrish cream and anise liqueur? ...fuck, this sounds too delicious to pass.Anise? No, it's butterscotch liqueur and Irish cream.
Ah, apparently I confused it with slippery nipple. Butterscotch liqueur seems great too, though, plus the Irish cream is still there. (Irish cream is one of my favs, I kind of regret learning how to make it at home because I drink it a bit too much, too often.)
If you love Irish cream, you're gonna love a buttery nipple!
They are a bit sweet but they're so easy to drink!
Fair. And they are good. One of the few sweet liquor drinks that I can tolerate.
Come on now, you know better.
Fair point.
PTB.
Like, I get not wanting "political" content in your instance. But guess what, everything has a political side! And the comment is completely related to the topic at hand (Garcia being kicked by force from one dictatorship into another, with no proofs that he would be a mara).
It’s in a “conservatives” community, so, politics is pretty much the wheelhouse.
And even considering the source, one would think there would at least be some sense of maturity when it comes to moderating, but nope.
It’s wannabe edgelord trolling, even in the moderation/admin team.
That makes it even worse.
Yes it does.
The post was more political than the comment, just saying.
Which judge? Which jury? What's the case so I can look it up? What crime is he charged with? When is his next court date? What was he convicted of? What was he sentenced to, and by whom?
-Questions I'm going to keep asking
Edit: I just read that modlog. Unrelated? Eat more boots, jackass.
Chucklestheleatherfootwareafficionado
He’s definitely seen a few up close.
Just going to throw in, as a vegan, 95% of people are leather shoe aficionados.
I honestly would not have thought that the hardest part about becoming vegan late in life would be buying shoes without leather.
It's definitely harder than buying food or eating out.
HC not beating the "just a reskinned exploding heads" allegations
Don't say that too loudly or one of their admins will come to argue it's totally different trust us
Hey! I was the commenter! I've since been banned from there, but I did keep calling out the mod. 😆
I believe my last comment before being banned contained the phrase 'sad piss baby'.
At least your voice is heard here. I saw this and just felt it needed to be called out.
I mean, c'mon. It's a fucking clown shoe running the show.
The only question is if I'm talking about the thing in the picture, or the one that took the mod action.
The answer to that question is yes.
Well put.
his tattoos are of dice and Sigmund Freud by the way, notably not of MS-13, a group to what he has no established connection.
I think I read that he does have affiliation, but has never committed any crimes associated with them. Either way, he received no proper procedure, due process or trial before being found guilty as a result of suspicion and prosecuted.
EDIT; meant to say that I had read that they are saying he does have affiliation. Not that he factually does.
can you provide a source for the affiliation?
Here is the best I can find as all sources I can see pretty much say the same on the subject. It’s not concrete, it’s the closest thing I can find that warrants any real possibility.
However, it should be noted that even if it were true- affiliation doesn’t mean jack shit if he never committed any crimes.
thanks for the link, I've read his report.
there is zero documented evidence even of gang affiliation, according to that FBI report.
that is very important to note.
clean record, no documented gang affiliation, wearing a hoodie, one CI allegedly said he has a nickname with no corroborating evidence.
his gang affiliation would mean something if he had a gang affiliation, which he does not.
it's only harmful to bring up an alleged affiliation when one does not exist.
That’s what I’m saying. I’m speaking from the perspective of those accusing. They are working from that info- which is irrelevant as it doesn’t really say anything other than he was accused.
I’ve been able to find nothing that states evidence has been provided.
And it should be pointed out that even if he did have MS-13 connections, he still is deserved due process and a trial- so their argument is further invalidated.
I don't think anybody's arguing about the necesiity of due process here, what with it being the point of the post. not from the comments I read, anyway.
It's irresponsible to say "i think i read that he does have affiliation" when there is no documented evidence.
there's a big difference between a proven gang member and a random person wearing a hoodie, and your statement blurs those lines.
I mis-spoke where I intended to say I read they’re saying he has affiliation. (My ADHD infused brain moves so much faster than I can type)
I totally get where you’re coming from and agree wholeheartedly. I’ll leave the error up and just make an edit, so this discussion makes more sense.
I'm hopping in to say that wikipedia lays out an excellent timeline (that indicates there's no MS-13 connection) and I've been linking people to that whenever they seem to get confused about this potential affiliation.
Just in case that information might help you moving forward.
Even if dude were the captain of MS-13, it doesn't matter.
Dems buying into this phony racist hysteria about MS-13 are a fundamental part of the problem. They're just serving their masters in the prison industry.
"Even if dude were the captain of MS-13, it doesn't matter."
being a captain of an international gang that murders and rapes people would matter.
pretending it doesn't is ridiculous.
"Dems buying into this phony racist hysteria about MS-13"
okay, you are confused.
rump is not a democrat, he is an extremely conservative republican.
MS-13 has been around for over 30 years, and the democrats I have not overreacted, extreme conservatives are the one overreacting.
"They're just serving their masters in the prison industry."
again you've got conservatives and progressives mixed up.
conservatives are obeying corporate masters; they literally hired the corporate masters to run the country.
Hang on. The person above said "Even if dude were the captain of MS-13, it doesn't matter," but the context of that statement was, "because even the captain of MS-13 should be getting due process."
I'm only pointing that out because I think most reasonable people would agree with that. The rest you can complain about, but the idea that everyone should get due process shouldn't be denigrated just because that person then went on to say some tribalist stuff.
I don't think anybody's arguing about the necesiity of due process here, what with it being the point of the post.
not from the comments I read, anyway.
I commented because that guy was tilting you so you started off with this exchange, which did look a little like you were arguing that if he was captain of MS-13, it would make a difference.
I keep getting this weird feeling that disingenuous assholes would be tilting us on purpose to make us more accepting of a world where someone could claim a guy was captian of MS-13, and so they shouldn't get due process. You know, saying something really awful, to get us to concede more than we normally would. Trying to look out.
"if he was captain of MS-13, it would make a difference."
it would, if there is corroborated, documented evidence someone is a captain of a violent gang, rather than someone with no criminal history and a sigmund freud tatoo.
that makes a difference.
"...claim a guy was captian of MS-13..."
this is basically what is happening now from official sources, my related comments in this post discuss this exact issue.
but you don't have to fall on one side or the other.
if someone is a violent offender and gamg member, that should be considered.
if someone is not, as in this case, that should be considered.
and as the post is about, due process should be inviolable.
all three are simultaneously correct.
Yeah it's it's shit server bro
Thanks for this. I have some "conservative" communites blocked, but I didn't know about "conservativeS." Added to the list.
No problem. Yeah. Everyone should know about them.
I was surprised... until I saw that it was c/conservatives...
The dems lost because they support fascist bullshit like the war on "MS-13" and the prison industry. And they'll continue to support this despite the resistance of a tiny minority of politicians.
The dems are helpless to oppose policies that they support.
Are the dems in the room with you?
Rent-free in his head, all day, every day. Not sure what he'd do without the Dems to whine about.
Yeah. The post clearly has nothing at all to do with democrats, yet these people go through some insane feats of mental gymnastics to make it about whatever they are upset about that day.
Trumps crime organization removed that man’s right to due process, no one else did.
I think technocrit just likes to be a shitstirrer and bitching about the Dems is easy ragebait material. Doesn't matter what the thread is about, gotta bait the libs somehow. Of course, now that the Dems are basically irrelevant, it rings hollow and just makes him look like one trick pony.
A lot of them do this to goad people into saying shit they can report. I’ve been on the moderator side of these things before. It happens a lot more than you think.
Like when you say "Fuck Nazis" and suddenly a bunch of comments going "The conservatives did nothing wrong!" Like what?
Yeah, dude seems to want to be on the wrong side of every argument.
As a left-leaning person, I didn't get that memo to support fascist bullshit like the war on "MS-13" and the prison industry.
Was that supposed to come with my George Soros check?
Were you listening to Kamala Harris?
I mean, Trump isn't helping working class Americans.
Got it. Yep, I agree, no notes.
bUt the dEmOcRaTs gUyS!!
This has NOTHING at all to do with the democrats and everything to do with some stupid agenda you have to rub the stink of “bOtH SiDeS” bullshit all over everything you can find.
The post is about a shit-tier tool of a mod. Not the democrats. The subject of the shit-tier mod’s action is a post that has everything to do with the current administration’s decision to forcefully kidnap a man with no evidence to support their accusation, and illegally deport him without due process.
How about you stop with this bullshit and read the fucking room for a change.
Are the democrats in the room with you?
Based on the spectacular feat of mental gymnastics you performed in order to find a way to make all of this the democrats fault- I’m going to assume you’re not here in good faith and respond in kind:
🫵 lol
You’re an entire idiot.
The mental gymnastics are astounding that you have come to the conclusion that somehow, I can become self-inflicted by something you helped MAGA achieve.
Brilliant work there.
I wonder what the approval rating for non-voting mouth-breathing blowhards is? It’s got to be in the lower 2’s.
I guess it’s good for you that no one can check, isn’t it?
Considering that this discussion is not even close to the point of the meme and since you seem to just want to see if you can out-snark me, I’m going to just end this here.
Get that last word in and be sure to make it a good’n!
Telling people to "fuck off" is incredibly rude. YDI.
Trump is merely continuing the Biden tradition of seeing 40 beheaded babies and finding Hamas bases under hospitals. But if Trump does it suddenly you believe in the rule of law. It has already been demolished.
Nothing gets Liberals angrier than being called out on their hypocrisy 🙂
Oh hey look it's the average .world mod attitude! Rudeness < Nazi behaviour, so maybe check your priorities on criticism yeah?
I see the "don't sass the nazis" attitude so prevalent among reddit mods made it to lemmy. Bummer.
Not on this instance matey lol. But LW for sure.
Yep. I am not even telling the genocide defenders to "Fuck off" nor personally insult them.
Well, aren’t you a saint?
Ohmygod I saw the link and all the best parts of my brain lit up.
I will never be able to not read every single comment in a YPTB thread. I just won't.
Can you link the part where I started screaming insults?
YDI.
Can you point out where I said you did?
FU.
"Fuck off with this"
Is that your comment or not?
Not.
This place is filled with people who do not know how to behave.
You're on the internet being an annoying shit stain, course folks are gonna be assholes. Being nice ain't a virtue it's a courtesy one I ain't given ya.
More insult slinging from the civilized liberals who were so eager about good language when defending genocide. What a surprise.
Dude ya just called an Inland Imperial Redneck a civilized liberal, I ain't either I'm a minarchist socialist. As for defending genocide I'm gonna assume ya are referring to the genocide in Gaza, which all I have to say on that one is that id turn Tel Aviv into a parking lot. An eye for an eye flesh for flesh kill em all and let the gods sort out the rest.
Perhaps ya should stop while you are ahead because all you are doing is making an ass of thineself.
You’re free to block it and walk away.
Just…. Walk away.
Classic Democrat take. Propaganda didn't win Trump the election. The painful incompetence of Biden and Kamala handed him the election. And the painful incompetence of Trump will (hopefully, as in hopefully there's another election) lead to the election of whoever the next completely unlikable and unpopular Democratic candidate is. Have you folks ever thought of running a candidate who would actually tackle income inequality and fairly tax the rich? Nah, didn't think so.
Considering that this discussion has nothing to do with the PTB in question, I’m going to end this here before my comments get removed. I’d rather keep the discussion within the wheelhouse of the post.
Anyone who calls you out on getting banned for insulting people is a Russian troll
Use some basic manners before making a post on how bad mods are.