It is so strange. After the Republicans turned a depression into the Great Depression with tariffs and then Watergate, it seemed like they were no longer relevant. Then Reagan came along, and was an extremely liberal conservative. Reagan "invented" the no fault divorce so that couples would no longer have to sue each other and declare one of them at fault.
The republican party should have went extinct at Bush Episode 1... "read my lips, no new taxes" (he lied and was a one term president because of it).
Then Bush Episode 2, who was a complete idiot ... then Trump. Why? How can this stupid corrupt party still be relevant?
I mean, literally none of their actions reflect the teachings of Christ, but culturally they have entrenched themselves as the only religion Christians can choose (at least, from the view of many Christians).
I'm not very religious ... and most "conservatives" are a bit to unchristian and evil for my taste.
A greedy drug fueled billionaire with 13+ kids by who-knows-how-many mother's should not be relevant in "conservative" politics, but there he is.
We will not discuss how/why they tolerate Trump ... that makes even less sense.
Reagan wasn't Liberal by any stretch. He was economically Libertarian except for when he tariffed nations like Japan and he promoted gun control when the black panthers started making headlines.
TBF if security were more lax and Trump's Itinerary were more accessible then we might be talking. Looking up all the places and times Reagan was is trivial.
Though I suppose you could travel forwards and then backwards but I think the hypothetical implies we don't have a time machine to use against the present tyrant?
You would need to target Jude Wanniski (conservative economist). Reagan wasn't the one who came up with supply side economics though he was an effective face of the message, reviving the Republican Party from its loss of credibility due to Nixon.
Part of it is just unbridled American level greed though. America has a good thing going post WW2, having horded 80% of the worlds gold supply by selling weapons to allies and staying out of the war until instigated by Japan in '41.
Also had a good thing going with the New Deal which helped pull the economy out of the great depression and bolstered / introduced many of the public services that are still in use today.
But no, dangle some marginal tax cuts in front of common folk who have the best standard of living in the world and apparently they'll vote for acceleration toward end stage capitalism.
Conservative policies need a (🤢) charismatic celebrity to connect with people and convince them to vote to destroy the country. DeSantis could never be this effective.
I have no idea how Trump, of all people, is so charismatic, but I'm not a racist.
Reagan was a fucking actor that was reading lines, shooting him would have done nothing. They'd just find a new electable moron to read the party's script.
Well I mean a lot could... George H Bush failed to be popular enough for re-election, so really it's a total shift in everything, and possibly effectiveness of what gets implimented.
Agreed, even with a time machine... secret service would make it quite difficult. Obviously the morality of killing baby hitler is always a thing.
Really though more morally though you probably could prevent most politicians from being politicians non lethally. Break into the hospital, swap him with another baby. It's a combination of nature and nurture so... if you change the upbringing, he probably won't wind up president.
One suggestion I've seen regarding Hitler is getting him when he was a runner in WWI. Nobody would question another casualty.
As far as modern evil people go, making sure that baby in a hospital in Queens in 1946 doesn't go to a rich family would almost certainly prevent a lot of future suffering. He's a born narcissist and would always be an asshole, but without rich parents propping him up he likely wouldn't have gone anywhere of note. He's not nearly smart enough to have made it on his own.
TIL I'm a girl.
Heck yes, me too
On this blessed day we are all a girl.
"Oh my God, Still just an actor Ronald Reagan you're in danger!"
"What do you mean still just an-"
Yaaaaas queen. 🔫👸💅
SLAY 😈 Like the Doom Slayer I mean
No one gives a shit about some B-list celebrity being taken out.
"somebody shot Ronald Reagan!"
"Who?"
"The Boraxo cleaner commercial guy!"
"Again I ask, who??"
Boraxo Ronald?
Shoot, this is a particularly rough time to discover that
I'm not sure it helps, but just know that there are plenty of cis-hets out there willing to use our privilege to fucking rage on your behalf.
Assigned Female At Conception hop in whos driving this time machine
egg irl
Feeling cute, might also keep that sob Kissinger from dying peacefully in his sleep.
By whom
You expect a senile old man to use proper grammar?
I assumed that was why she shot him
Yes he had cue cards
It is so strange. After the Republicans turned a depression into the Great Depression with tariffs and then Watergate, it seemed like they were no longer relevant. Then Reagan came along, and was an extremely liberal conservative. Reagan "invented" the no fault divorce so that couples would no longer have to sue each other and declare one of them at fault. The republican party should have went extinct at Bush Episode 1... "read my lips, no new taxes" (he lied and was a one term president because of it).
Then Bush Episode 2, who was a complete idiot ... then Trump. Why? How can this stupid corrupt party still be relevant?
Religion. They are the "Christian party."
I mean, literally none of their actions reflect the teachings of Christ, but culturally they have entrenched themselves as the only religion Christians can choose (at least, from the view of many Christians).
I'm not very religious ... and most "conservatives" are a bit to unchristian and evil for my taste. A greedy drug fueled billionaire with 13+ kids by who-knows-how-many mother's should not be relevant in "conservative" politics, but there he is. We will not discuss how/why they tolerate Trump ... that makes even less sense.
They aren't conservative, they are fascist.
Truly. Trump and his ilk are like if you made the antithesis of Christ's teachings in lab...
Stupid voters and corrupt money
Reagan wasn't Liberal by any stretch. He was economically Libertarian except for when he tariffed nations like Japan and he promoted gun control when the black panthers started making headlines.
No fault divorce was a very VERY liberal concept.
Because racist people like dog whistles
If they aren't shooting now, they aren't shooting back then.
TBF if security were more lax and Trump's Itinerary were more accessible then we might be talking. Looking up all the places and times Reagan was is trivial.
Though I suppose you could travel forwards and then backwards but I think the hypothetical implies we don't have a time machine to use against the present tyrant?
You would need to target Jude Wanniski (conservative economist). Reagan wasn't the one who came up with supply side economics though he was an effective face of the message, reviving the Republican Party from its loss of credibility due to Nixon.
Part of it is just unbridled American level greed though. America has a good thing going post WW2, having horded 80% of the worlds gold supply by selling weapons to allies and staying out of the war until instigated by Japan in '41.
Also had a good thing going with the New Deal which helped pull the economy out of the great depression and bolstered / introduced many of the public services that are still in use today.
But no, dangle some marginal tax cuts in front of common folk who have the best standard of living in the world and apparently they'll vote for acceleration toward end stage capitalism.
Conservative policies need a (🤢) charismatic celebrity to connect with people and convince them to vote to destroy the country. DeSantis could never be this effective.
I have no idea how Trump, of all people, is so charismatic, but I'm not a racist.
Honestly, girl same!
I mean Thatcher
That's pretty unrealistic. No girl has come close to shooting a president since Ford was in office.
What I'm hearing is that we can't elect a woman president but that other notable milestones related to the presidency are up for grabs.
You're not not hearing that, anyway
We also don't have time travel. That seems like the unrealistic part.
Unless it is Margaret Thatcher who went back in time, then she and Reagan would fuck.
It really is a shame they missed the first time.
Reagan was a fucking actor that was reading lines, shooting him would have done nothing. They'd just find a new electable moron to read the party's script.
If I had a time machine, I'd kill whoever at NBC greenlit The Apprentice. That's what started this ball rolling.
Ronald Reagan, THE ACTOR?!
Same can be said about Hitler , well painter then. Wouldn't have stopped the war anyhow. Still worth doing
I would also shoot regan
George H. W. Bush is now president! Huh...didn't really change much.
Well I mean a lot could... George H Bush failed to be popular enough for re-election, so really it's a total shift in everything, and possibly effectiveness of what gets implimented.
I suppose it also depends on when Reagan gets offed. 1981 would be a lot different than 1988.
Of course, the smart move is to assassinate the person BEFORE they're in a position of power.
Agreed, even with a time machine... secret service would make it quite difficult. Obviously the morality of killing baby hitler is always a thing.
Really though more morally though you probably could prevent most politicians from being politicians non lethally. Break into the hospital, swap him with another baby. It's a combination of nature and nurture so... if you change the upbringing, he probably won't wind up president.
One suggestion I've seen regarding Hitler is getting him when he was a runner in WWI. Nobody would question another casualty.
As far as modern evil people go, making sure that baby in a hospital in Queens in 1946 doesn't go to a rich family would almost certainly prevent a lot of future suffering. He's a born narcissist and would always be an asshole, but without rich parents propping him up he likely wouldn't have gone anywhere of note. He's not nearly smart enough to have made it on his own.
TIL Dubya, Slick-Willie, and Donnie Moscow were all born in the same year.
And Donnie Moscow is older than either of them.
Just make sure he gets in to art school.
No one pays attention to artists.
Yeah or assassinate the dude who didn't let Hitler into art school
George Bush likely lost because Ross Perot split the vote.
And the response was that we should really fix this messed up voting system we have.
Had me in the third quarter, not gonna lie.
You could just hop back through time doing this, and no one could ever catch you at the end because you hadn't even committed those crimes yet