The people who lived there were forcibly relocated to the colonies because the lairds worked out that it was more profitable to use the land for sheep than peasants.
Long long ago, pubs didn't have names but they just had signs. People would call the pub whatever was on the sign. "The King's Head" for pubs with a portrait of a king, "The Wheat Sheaf" for ones with a picture of some wheat or barley, etc.
Lots of old pubs displayed the Stuart coat of arms as a show of loyalty to King James I/VI and his heirs, which is a heraldic red lion. Hence why so many pubs have the same name even though they're all ancient and unrelated.
Could you explain to my Canadian ass what the difference is? Haha. The only thing it seems to mean here is that they try to be classier and serve full entrees.
An inn is basically a pub with rooms you can stay in. Not quite sure what makes a place a bar rather than a pub in the UK, but generally a pub was built as one and a bar is in a generic retail/restaurant space.
Good attempt, far from being all of them though. For example in Appleton they can’t hand out more liquor licenses because of the sheer amount of bars there.
MADD was founded, so maybe that had something to do with it? But that was in the US, Canada, and Brazil, so I'm not sure what Europe's deal was, unless they just decided that those in the other side of the pond were onto something.
The massive increase in cocaine usage could have also been a factor. But it's commonly paired with alcohol so I don't know how much coke usage would affect alcohol consumption, if at all. But maybe enough people thought that it was good enough to use on its own that they felt the need to drink less. But this is all speculation and again I don't know if any of this applies to Europe, given that the CIA was responsible for helping make the drug be so widely available in the US back then.
Goblin and Squirrel
Golden Pot
Sleepy Troll
Cheerful Spoon
Baldric and Frog
Green Toad
Stoat and Halberd
Goose and Halberd
Squirrel and Halberd
Goblin and Sword
Well Fed Duck
Laughing Duck
Eye and Goblin
Squirrel and Hen
Kobold and Dog
Dunno why it likes halberds so much here. It has its moods.
My father moved to France and opened an expat (read imigrant, they can't use one word for themselves and use another for others) bar called the old lord raglan.
The "again" at the end of your comment makes me wonder to what extent you believe the US was involved with propping up the IRA. They smuggled guns from America but I haven't seen anything credible beyond that.
Not only arms, but also money was raised and sent back to fund IRA activities.
Sure.. Not all Americans, but IRA funding and support was pretty widespread in places such as New York. (Not saying it's not understandable why people with Irish heritage, or Americans in general would support the IRA, just that US support for them was a very helpful lifeline.)
Edit: also smuggling guns into a conflict zone to arm one side is quite substantial help.
I'm really torn on the whole thing. I don't want there to be a barrier between the British and Irish, but I also see the appeal of Ireland being whole. We've come so far in my lifetime and I like we've ended up in this situation where the two countries are just open to each other. It's a really strong statement given where things were less than 50 years ago.
Remember that Ireland and Northern Ireland both make up the island of Ireland. The Irish live in (the republic of) Ireland and the Northern Irish live in the northern part of Ireland (Northern Ireland), which is part of the UK.
You're missing a few. Also, some of those have closed. Because of these discrepancies this map is literally unusable.
Road trip?
Thinking more one hell of a pub crawl.
Meh, I reckon I could have a Guinness in each one before closing time.
How many of them are called The Winchester?
I don't know, but that's where I would go both to wait out the apocalypse and for a date.
2, if this is to be believed
Edit, and then 3 or 4 if THIS is to believed (and those other two appear to have moved from Burnley to Liverpool, and Islington to Highgate)
Why so empty on the northern part? Non British here.
The people who lived there were forcibly relocated to the colonies because the lairds worked out that it was more profitable to use the land for sheep than peasants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances
well, why don't the sheep have pubs?
Those are called shrubs, and there are lots of them.
The sheep were tired of getting fleeced...
I think they'd say the same.
Underrated comment right here
Scotland is way less densely populated than England
I think it's mountains?
That doesn’t normally stop us, but barely anyone lives in the highlands.
damn bro the night life really is dying. Barely any pubs nowadays.
It'll be interesting to remove the Red Lion and see the difference
I looked it up and thought it was a franchise at first, just very creative and varied about it. Some of them looked really nice, too.
Long long ago, pubs didn't have names but they just had signs. People would call the pub whatever was on the sign. "The King's Head" for pubs with a portrait of a king, "The Wheat Sheaf" for ones with a picture of some wheat or barley, etc.
Lots of old pubs displayed the Stuart coat of arms as a show of loyalty to King James I/VI and his heirs, which is a heraldic red lion. Hence why so many pubs have the same name even though they're all ancient and unrelated.
Very interesting to know!
Nope, incomplete. Here's one at the tip of that peninsula-looking island that's left bare (Skye).
I'm curious now it there actually is a spot in the Hebrides or Highlands where you can be more than a day's walk from a pub.
The Shetlands and Orkneys are also missing entirely. So there's a few more for sure.
Mildly appropriate username. Clearly, they cropped it out because you've taken it for the king of Norway.
Shetland and Orkney. Nobody who lives there says Shetlands or Orkneys. But yes there are a few for sure but not all of the islands have one.
They've chopped off most of Caithness too. Thurso has pubs AND a distillery. John o' Groats has a distillery too, AND a brewery.
Freedom and whisky gang thegither, Tak aff your dram!
Looks more like a bar. Never says pub that I saw.
Skye is beautiful though. Worth the ferry if you're in the area.
There are several pubs in Skye, I visited a few last year.
Could you explain to my Canadian ass what the difference is? Haha. The only thing it seems to mean here is that they try to be classier and serve full entrees.
An inn is basically a pub with rooms you can stay in. Not quite sure what makes a place a bar rather than a pub in the UK, but generally a pub was built as one and a bar is in a generic retail/restaurant space.
Skye is actually close enough that you can drive over there by bridge
I prefer driving by car.
How big is the bridge?
Less than a kilometre long
Yep, that's hardly an island, haha!
Looking at that blue line, OOP solved the traveling Irishman problem.
This is missing a few, there's more than that in the rural regions of Scotland.
Yeah, this map comes up on the Web periodically and we Scots point out that it's lacking (a lot) in Scotland.
Bleeding English erasing Scottish pub culture smh /s
Great! Now do every bar in Wisconsin…
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/227w
Good attempt, far from being all of them though. For example in Appleton they can’t hand out more liquor licenses because of the sheer amount of bars there.
The bars you have in mind might be encoded as pubs. Query with both: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2287
Anyone can edit OpenStreetMap. Basemap is used by Strava, NextDoor, many others.
I'd be interested to see the alcoholism rates over history compared to the US. That's a lot of pubs, but I have a feeling the rates are lower there.
Found a random graph that might tell part of the story. I've always heard that people drink more heavily in Europe than the US.
What happened in the 80s?
Maybe just more health awareness? I bet that's when smoking started dropping off too.
The cocaine was amazing.
MADD was founded, so maybe that had something to do with it? But that was in the US, Canada, and Brazil, so I'm not sure what Europe's deal was, unless they just decided that those in the other side of the pond were onto something.
The massive increase in cocaine usage could have also been a factor. But it's commonly paired with alcohol so I don't know how much coke usage would affect alcohol consumption, if at all. But maybe enough people thought that it was good enough to use on its own that they felt the need to drink less. But this is all speculation and again I don't know if any of this applies to Europe, given that the CIA was responsible for helping make the drug be so widely available in the US back then.
I'm doing my part!
What’s the deal with the hole in the cloud of pins near the England / Scotland border?
it's actually one Big Super Pub that fills up the whole of Northumberland
Looks like it might be the North Pennines, which is basically a national park
Why does it include part of Ireland? That's a completely different country.
Assuming you are not trolling and actually curious, Northern Ireland is part of the UK since the Partition of Ireland in 1921.
i have terrible news, you've left the good timeline (the Easter-1916 timeline) and are in ours now
Does the Ottoman Empire still stand, brother?
I'm afraid the Sick Man of Europe is now the Dead Man of Europe
Good.
But at least that bastard Hans Sprechter didn't rise to power.
Country...yes. Nation...no.
North Scotland must be where people go to sober up.
I recently visited one in Belfast.
Sample output from my D&D pub name generator:
Goblin and Squirrel
Golden Pot
Sleepy Troll
Cheerful Spoon
Baldric and Frog
Green Toad
Stoat and Halberd
Goose and Halberd
Squirrel and Halberd
Goblin and Sword
Well Fed Duck
Laughing Duck
Eye and Goblin
Squirrel and Hen
Kobold and Dog
Dunno why it likes halberds so much here. It has its moods.
It must be compensating for everyone taking glaives over halberds in D&D 5e despite having identical stats
I never met a glaive I didn't like.
Nice, something like "the halfling Arms" could work well. "The old green troll" too.
Some of the pub names I used to frequent when younger, although many are closed down and I don’t go in pubs anymore.
I’m bored now 😂
My father moved to France and opened an expat (read imigrant, they can't use one word for themselves and use another for others) bar called the old lord raglan.
Thanks! I don't believe new, old/olde or horse are in my word list. Editing...
Well done lads.
The Isle of Skye is bleak.
Several hotel bars on Skye are effectively pubs.
That's a relief!
There's seems to be a mistake: The northern portion of Éire, also known as Ireland, is erroneously included in this chart of UK pubs. Please fix this.
Did you mean Éire?
Thank you for pointing that out. I hadn't noticed. Fixed it.
👍
Ireland is not a lake. Please fix this
I for certain of 5 pubs that exist but are not on that map.
I think you a word.
I think they even a verb
Makes me nervous seeing those northern areas with vast swaths of land with no pubs. What do people do up there?
Not be, mostly.
The population density in the Highlands and Isles is very low.
Seems light
"get me to god's country"
same first time.
Mmm. Pubby.
I'd rather drink alone in my basement
The pub crawl of death.
The third place for the users of feddit.uk
Internet teaching me Ireland not in UK.... either that or all their pubs blew up.
Northern Ireland belongs to the UK, the Republic of Ireland doesn't.
Let's hope for an Irish reunion.
My own experience is that the majority are happy with the current division. Compared to "the troubles" the current status is wonderful.
Yanks seem to be keen to go back to that so they can fund terrorism again.
The "again" at the end of your comment makes me wonder to what extent you believe the US was involved with propping up the IRA. They smuggled guns from America but I haven't seen anything credible beyond that.
yeah and that barely counts for anything, anyone can just come to the US and buy guns at the grocery store
Not just guns. The Semtex came from somewhere.
Not only arms, but also money was raised and sent back to fund IRA activities.
Sure.. Not all Americans, but IRA funding and support was pretty widespread in places such as New York. (Not saying it's not understandable why people with Irish heritage, or Americans in general would support the IRA, just that US support for them was a very helpful lifeline.)
Edit: also smuggling guns into a conflict zone to arm one side is quite substantial help.
I'm really torn on the whole thing. I don't want there to be a barrier between the British and Irish, but I also see the appeal of Ireland being whole. We've come so far in my lifetime and I like we've ended up in this situation where the two countries are just open to each other. It's a really strong statement given where things were less than 50 years ago.
England ⊂ Great Britain ⊂ United Kingdom ⊂ British isles
Great Britain is England, Scotland, Wales.
United Kingdom is Great Britain + Northern Ireland.
British isles are UK and Ireland.
Remember that Ireland and Northern Ireland both make up the island of Ireland. The Irish live in (the republic of) Ireland and the Northern Irish live in the northern part of Ireland (Northern Ireland), which is part of the UK.
Hope that helps.
Ireland doesn't have pubs. They have bars. Which serve the same function as pubs and look like pubs but they are bars.
Ireland totally has pubs. I think you might be thinking of Boston.
Boston is wonderful, every other door has booze behind it. You can stumble down the street and somehow end up in the same place everywhere you go.
Did you know that alcohol is a class one carcinogenic? Just like tobacco and radiation.
WHO: No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health
Oh no I will miss out on precious years of wage slavery and paying rent!
Is that all that life is to you?
So YOU'RE the ice bucket challenge!
i dont care
Happy to see some of the unoriginal shitposts from Reddit that have been posted over and over for years making their way to Lemmy.
It was my first time seeing it =/
I was one of today's 10,000, too. I liked it.
¯\(ツ)/¯
Me too!
It wasn't mine, but things don't have to be 100% new and original for me to enjoy them.
Touch it.
This better not awaken anything in me.
Embrace your inner Hank Hill.
Says someone that's never posted anything at all
First time seeing this one. Did you know images are often shared across multiple social media platforms?
Be the change you want to see in the world
This comment is just as unoriginal