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Elon Says Government Will ‘Go After’ People ‘Pushing the Propaganda’ About Tesla

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-tesla-attacks-trump-government-1235305402/

“The real problem is not like the crazy guy that firebombs a Tesla dealership, it’s the people pushing the propaganda that cause that guy to do it,” he continued.

“The president has made it clear, we are going to go after them. The ones providing the money. The ones pushing the lies and propaganda, we’re going after them,” Musk claimed. “I think there’s some real evil out there. We have to overcome it.”

This statement means that U.S. Citizens no longer have Constitutional rights.

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fedia.io

“I think there’s some real evil out there. We have to overcome it.”

The irony is gushing off of this one.

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Echreply

Less so irony, more so projection.

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programming.dev

So you can't state your opinion of a car company now? And somehow that is the government's concern?

Could the corruption get any more blatant?

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lemmy.world

So you can’t state your opinion of a car company now?

American fascists going ape-shit in defense of their right to drive ugly, poorly built vehicles goes straight back to Henry Ford tearing up the Midwest street car lines in the 1920s.

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midwest.social

A retail value they just recalled 45,000 cyber trucks Thats like 3.6 billion dollars. That’s the insurance companies dropping the vehicles and people tired of the million things wrong with them.

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veroxiireply
aussie.zone

A recall doesn't mean the company takes back your vehicle and has to refund you. They send you a letter and you take your vehicle to a dealership so they can fix or replace the recalled issue or part.

And usually you can do this at your regularly scheduled service so most of the labour costs are covered.

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midwest.social

Yeah I meant representing 3.6 billion in inventory. Couple that with all the charging issues, rusting panels, stuck chargers, non existent stations. Buying one is an uninsurable money pit and they hit you hard if you try to resell within a year

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True. Their value has tanked into negative territory. You can't even pay someone to take one.

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NABDadreply
lemmy.world

I've had recalls for a bunch of vehicles, and I've never had to pay any costs for the repairs regardless of when I schedule the appointment.

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I meant if they talk you into a service at the same time some of THEIR labour costs are covered. Sorry I didn't mean the owner has to pay for a recall but I can see how my comment reads that way.

For example if the recall fix takes them 15 mins but they can do a regular service for another 60 mins which you pay for then it offsets things a bit for the dealership.

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lemmy.world

Doesn't Tesla straight up have sell their own insurance to make the vehicles driveable in states that have insurance mandates?

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Obireply
sopuli.xyz

Got a source on that? I can only find stuff about Geico and other insurance companies dropping their coverage for it, but can't find anything specifically talking about Tesla offering in-house insurance for them, that sounds insane to me, insurance isn't like a warranty it also needs to cover third party liability and all that jazz.

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Lol why didn't I think of that ^_^' thanks! I find this insane.

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lemm.ee

I think this is beyond corruption, I think this is full on authoritarianism. Which is worse. Way worse.

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piccoloreply
sh.itjust.works

Corruption would be makeing all federal entities to purchase tesla. Authoritarian would be forcing everyone to purchase a tesla or be thrown in the gulag.

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Criticism of the SS could get you disappeared too, why is any one surprised?

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That's right, I'm gonna make them cart my ass off to the gulag if they want it so bad. I'm not kneeling to these chucklefucks for a second.

Elon Musk is a fascist.

Trump is a fascist.

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sh.itjust.works

What lies? What propaganda? This guy is a fascist dipshit and no one wants to associate with his company. Add in the fact that he is trying to dismantle our country on behalf of trump and you're going to get protests. It's pretty simple, Leon.

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It’s more projection. They pay propagandists to tell lies, so everyone must be doing it!

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Yup. This is the guy who literally told his Twitter customers to f*ck off, and then tried to sue them when they took their business elsewhere.

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lemmy.world

So... he thinks people are being paid to boycott tesla? How do I get in on that free money? Here I am just volunteering to hate them due to it being the obvious stance to hold.

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veroxiireply
aussie.zone

It's all he knows. People only do things for money. He can't comprehend there might be another reason staring back at him in the mirror.

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Historically speaking, there was a lot of dark money and influence being used to try and bankrupt Tesla.

I have to say that DOGE has been been excellent at it's job though and those sources don't really need to spend as much money to do so now.

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lemmy.ml

I think that people firebombing Tesla dealerships is genuinely hilarious and awesome. The only bad thing about it is when they don't take sufficient precautions and then end up arrested. Anyone doing such a thing should definitely make sure to leave their phone at home, and make sure they aren't identifiable on camera either at the scene or traveling to/from it.

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lemmy.ml

Nah, there's people with heart that just lack awareness of the extent of the modern surveillance state.

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I'm pretty sure 1984 is a banned book. So most people aren't aware of how to doublethink and to the extent big brother has control over communication devices.

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Hathawayreply
lemmy.zip

Well, how about the fact that if you don’t have your phone on you, they can also track that, and in a world where everyone has a phone, it’s arguably stranger not to have one. A burner that’s not linked to you just to have at the time, and toss later, might be a better option. However, I’m sure that’s not great either. Big brother is always watching.

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lemmy.ml

How would they track if you don't have your phone on you? They can track the phone location and its use. Putting your phone down while you take a nap, or losing it in your couch look the same as leaving it at home.

Beyond that, suspecting that you left your phone at home isn't evidence of anything. Try yo stay off the radar if you can, but at least don't build a case against yourself.

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Hathawayreply
lemmy.zip

I may be misremembering entirely, but essentially, combined with all the other surveillance out there, if you say, go to a protest, and you and a few other people are going without a cell phone, not having that electronic signal is also a “red flag” or can be, and they’ll monitor you closer through other measures, when possible. However, I’ve gone looking for where a read/saw this, and cannot find anything. So there’s a non zero chance this is a fever dream.

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I see what you're saying, but I maintain that any such risk is outweighed by the risk of bringing your phone.

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lemm.ee

Sad this in another post but right wingers seriously think this is a coordinated effort by Soros and the DNC. Their evidence: the protester signs look “professionally made”.

They seriously cannot phantom the concept of a grass roots effort because everyone is sharing the same thought and are getting pushed to the edge.

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Not only that, Musk is literally paying people to vote for right wingers! How is that any different than paid-for-protesters.

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They can't fathom the concept of a grassroots campaign because they've only ever seen astroturfing.

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He also said he'd cage fight zuck, get interviewed by jon stewart, end world hunger and that's his own hair.

He's not exactly a bastion of truth

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Screw Musk. He can't do anything.

Teslas are a shitty nazi brand now ... and people want to punch nazis.

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Propaganda doesn't need to be true or false. However it is usually biased to promote a political cause or point of view.

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And what about the rest of the world, Elon? Because that's a pretty damn broad statement threat.

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No need for a lake - just take them through one of those washing streets, and it'll brick itself. Saves costs on dragging them out of the lake.

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Teslas are absolute garbage heaps, just like the cunt who bought the company and derailed meaningful EV investment in our country afterwards. Come after me you fridge-built body prick.

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lemmy.world

No one HAS to buy anything from Tesla. It’s called voting with you wallet, and the world will do just that.

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xzot746reply
sh.itjust.works

Remember he wanted to go after businesses that stop advertising on Xitter, they think it is all owed to them, everything you do is for them and if you're not for them then you're the enemy.

He cannot understand that his behaviour and that he bought his way into this power position is what the people hate, well that and he is a fucking Nazi.

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Companies spend years and years developing a brand. It’s just as important as the product itself.

It’s hilarious to think of all the time and money they spent to build Tesla up, only to let some dick head drive it right into the ground beside Enron.

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infosec.pub

Next an US citizen who said something about Tesla will be thrown into a private prison without charge and get their citizenship revoked because some made up reason - like they went to gaza once to provide humanitarian aid.

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He is right about the evil part, but he only really has to look into the mirror.

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lemmy.ml

If Elon says that Tesla and SpaceX are the best thing ever, if Trump advertise the Tesla's as the best vehicle ever, doesn't that encapsulate "pushing the propaganda" and the government should go after them?

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SeeMarkFlyreply
lemmy.ml

So, how many digits do I need in my bank account to be innocent of ANY crime?

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Yea, so it has NOTHING to do with skill, or performance, or history, or morals. Just money.

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His head is so far up his own ass he can't even see that he is the problem..

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This motherfucker aHas ato be killed along with every fucking MAGAt Congressman supporting him

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🤣 I can't believe this Nazi ever considered himself a free speech proponent. What a scum bastard.

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lemmy.world

Let's say your above post was deemed illegal by Elon the US government. Do you feel confident that the NSA couldn't uncover your identity and pass the details to a CIA ops team?

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Korhakareply
sopuli.xyz

Good luck deporting most of the UK for calling Elon a bellend.

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The ones pushing the lies and propaganda, we’re going after them

While lies are tortuously liable (grounds for civil recovery rather than a crime), criminally punishing propaganda and speech would be a textbook violation of the First Amendment.

*Edit: I thought money was speech

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we'll fight against the false claims that we're nazis by doing some nazi shit.

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People do it because they hate Elon's nazi propaganda, so the government should deal with him to fix the issue.

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"The real problem is not like the crazy guy that firebombs a Tesla dealership, it’s the people pushing the propaganda that cause that guy to do it,” he continued

So he's gonna stop talking, right?

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Gotta love the party of small government and free market capitalism.

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