Mom of child dead from measles: “Don’t do the shots,” my other 4 kids were fine
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The denial after the fact is a necessary coping mechanism. Otherwise, they will suffer from the guilt of killing their child.
Which they absolutely did.
They'll probably come around to the realization in time, but we won't see that interview.
Prolly not
The most generous way I can look at this is to say she's in denial. Five unvaccinated children with one dead. Apparently a 20% fatality rate (in her family) is not enough of a reason to get the vaccine.
The most generous way I can look at this is she's a danger to her children, and they should be removed from her. Rejecting vaccines should not be a choice, just like choosing to starving your children should not be a choice.
If she got bit by a rabid dog, she'd get the vaccine in a heartbeat. Anti-vaxxers are only anti-vaxxers out of pure spite for science and the government. That's literally it. Willfull ignorance and contradicting personalities in defiance of the status quo. If the disease has a low risk of them or their loved ones dying, they'll take the risk of not taking the vaccine, because they suck at math and it can't possibly happen to them and their family.
If the risk of death is 100% (like in rabies), they'll take the vaccine, because they know deep down they are fking wrong about vaccines and they don't want the 100% chance of death.
Btw, If you ever debate with an anti-vaxxer irl, asking them if they'd take the rabies vaccine once bit by a rabid animal does fuck up their stupid logic quite effectively.
Math is not their strong suit.
Neither is science. These are the kids who set in the back of the class and got D’s and got passed by the teacher because they didn’t want to deal with them for another year.
There was another story the other day of a father whose unvaccinated daughter died of measles, and he said he was still glad she didn't get the vaccine because he didn't trust what's in it to be safe. These people's minds are not functioning rationally.
Terminally stupid in this case.
More like homicidally stupid.
I assumed this is the same family. If not, measels may be doing it's thing.
Measles is insanely infectious. People have no clue the fire they're inviting into our lives. Even vaccinated people are at risk.
Yes, so often we see people online saying "Ha ha, let the morons get COVID/measles/bird flu/etc!" They don't stop to think about the risk to everyone else, particularly vulnerable people some of whom can't get vaccinated and rely on herd immunity. In all these years still that lesson doesn't seem to have been learned. I suspect the people saying this are healthy young people who haven't really considered how different from theirs some people's lives are.
Many of them are likely just annoyed and use it as a coping mechanism. It's understandable. I find it easy to believe that when a group of people wants to kill and or deport you, your family members, friends, or even your neighbors. That resentment will build and ultimately people will say they want things to get worse faster so it opens eyes faster and we as a community start fixing the problem sooner. For example it's why I have at times wanted Trump to ignore/piss off the courts more once he already has violated people's rights since only violating some people's rights people are coping with just fine. A good example of something that would harm and possibly kill many people before things were fixed is social security. Many people would say we would be fine with it at this point if social security checks just stopped going out. It's not because we want those people to die. It's because we want an act like that to happen sooner rather than later. It would directly impact the largest majority who supported this administration. So something so blatantly obvious is harder to get blame shifted, and the people who only say to themselves "am I better off now" would have to admit to themselves they are not. Opening the door to possibilities of a rapid change through grander support. The bill of rights has been ignored, the constitution has been ignored, so many believe the only reason they are "playing" that the government is still in function is to ensure they have replaced all the people they need with sycophants so when the mask does eventually shatter, it is to late for anyone to really do anything. All media outlets controlled, all Government entities (including elections), all large corporations, the food, water, energy... All controlled to make it so we can be tamed and drivin like sheep.
In a dictatorship we are all slaves with no rights, people right now are still believing we have rights because the facade.
People like this should be treated the same as parents who drive their kids without car seats and seat belts.
How this isn't abuse is beyond me. They'll screen about personal freedoms, but what about that poor child's personal freedom.
I hate that we let parents treat kids like property.
Woman who doesn’t use conventional birth control is shocked to discover this one weird trick.
They cracked the code to the elusice 30th trimester abortion.
... This isn't an onion article. That's horrifying.
Help! I'm trapped in a shit hole country and surrounded by moronic assholes.
She probably claims to be "pro-life" too
Gotta keep having kids if you're going to let them die like this or disown them when they turn out wrong. Arrows for the quiver of god, or whatever. That poor child deserved to live a full life.
Considering she just aborted her child post-birth, she's in denial.
So she's a child murdering monster. Got it.
"Pro-life" I'm sure.
That's a 20% mortality rate. If vaccines had anywhere near that level of mortality risk, all the streets of every city in the world would be absolutely fucking littered with bodies. You have to be one dumb motherfucker to think this is some kind of vindication for your antivax position.
Well, the existence of these people are why the trolley problem is a problem at all. They think it's more ok for 5 people to die by them not doing anything than 1 people dying instead because of their involvement.
Mine got the shots. They are ALL fine. And alive I might add. Fucking ghoulish cunts, protect your kids dammit.
have they detected 5g signals from them, these antivaxxers always claim something like that.
I mean who could complain about better reception. 🙄
Wild that you're just allowed to be a child murderer if you claim the magic voices in your head say it's okay. You'd think that the surviving kids would be saved from this kind of fucked up ideology, but in the U.S. we have concluded that it's more important for people to be delusional.
Parents like these deserve a bolt right between the eyes.
Whatever you may think of the parents for this, I don't suspect the other children would be much better off in the foster care system.
But there's a chance the foster family would at least get them their vaccinations.
So much better that she just died rather than got autism and then died.
As if autism is the worst thing you can have, come on... That's actually offensive af of them to even say. I have autism and I'd rather have it than be dead, any day.
There are definitely days I'd rather be dead, but that's not the autism's fault, it's morons that believe in this shit.
Murderer.
Wow how selfish can you be? What a horrible mom
4/5 kids survived. Those are great numbers if you’re living in the 19th century.
This is why you don't vote idiots into the white house. Imagine this quality idiot dictating policy.
You'd better avoid FDA news for a while😬
Pretty sure vaccines make measles more than 80% survivable so she’s missing out
She's figuring out why families 200 years ago had a dozen kids.
Not really. She didn't learn shit.
She gets to hold her dead child who could have had a full life thanks to modern medicine and pretend like she's the victim.
Poor child.
In other words, irresponsible parents who should not raise kids in the first place.
Not just irresponsible, delusional. At what point does delusional thinking causing a child’s death turn into neglect or child abuse?
Crazy that anti-vax has even a fig leaf of personal liberty as a defense. Yes, you do have the right to make your own choices and you can be a negligent parent in 1000 different ways.
But this isn't even close to a personal freedom issue. You being a dumb piece of shit is a direct threat to the rest of society. YOU don't get to make the personal choice to kill MY child.
It should be simple for these serious diseases: unless you have a certified medical issue preventing it, you have to get the shot. Fuck any objection (personal, religious, whatever...). If there's some negative side effect or a bad vaccine batch, you get generously compensated for our collective societal fault in harming you.
Strap them down and jab them, let them bitch and moan about everyone's children being alive and healthy later.
Either that or, more gently, ban them from public spaces if they haven't had the vaccine -- schools, public administrations, grocery stores, malls, churches...
This is the approach I would suggest. I do not agree with forcing people to take vaccines, but if they want to be part of society then this is a reasonable requirement. It's simply an extension of the duty of care principle we already have for healthcare environments where vaccination and other measures are required for people to work in.
"i don't even like my kids"
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of course anti-vaxxers use pseudoscience to treat illnesses. cod oils can cause diarrheal issues if you consume too much.
Welcome to the new America. It breaks my heart.
Love it or hate it: having a litter of children works. You can neglect them and a few might make it to adulthood.
Mother of child that died of measles in the USA in 2025 is anti-vax. Insert Pikachu
What a shitty mother. I feel sorry for her other children.
There is a good chance she made 4 more future antivaxers
I work with a guy who is an extreme germ, a phobia. He always wears latex gloves even when he eats his food but yet he refused to get the Covid vaccine him and his wife are not even 30 yet and they have nine kids. I believe four of them have some sort immune deficiency problem, as well as one or two with a learning disability yet it’s all part of God‘s plan FYI he is also a big-time Mormon.
Fuck it, i need to know. What does being a homophobe have to do with eating with latex gloves or no covid shots?
Fear that their food or covid shots might've been handled by someone attracted to their same gender? Hoping it's just an unfortunate typo and they meant germaphobe.
Sorry mistyped, i meant germaphobia.
I love the new version where now he's straight up just a singular bacterium with strong opinions, and that's freaking you out. Pls don't change it again
Oops lol!
20% death rate seems somewhat normal for unvaccinated
A terrible take.
I remember how sad I was to see my infant cousin die from sids. My poor aunt never recovered from the anti depression drugs. Meanwhile this pos is going w/e. Treating human like a turd.I feel sorry for the other kids. They watched their sibling die and know for sure mom will do the same for them.
I will skip this particular circle jerk where we all say vaccines are amazing together in a big ring. :)
I dont feel any anger of someone decides to not vaccinate. Its their decision.
It wasn't that 6 year old kids decision.
Yep thats true.