I have a lot of people, I'd consider friends, that I only communicate with through discord. If I lost my account, I'd likely never hear from them again. Kinda get it.
This is one of the bigger reasons I don't want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.
personally the $3 a month nitro is worth it for me, considering how much I use it. I know Lemmy hates anything capitalist but a coffee a month isnt that much
Personally, Discord has facilitated a long distance relationship with my now wife, and nearly ten years of weekly TTRPG games. I don't mind the cost because they cannot provide that service for free forever, and I think it's worth it for what I get out of it. The other benefits they add for paying are almost just bonuses to me after that.
It cannot be overstated how much of a boon Discord's lack of friction is for connecting with people and forming communities. It is mind-flatteningly easy to get onto Discord and into a community, and while the content of those communities is woefully unindexed deep web, forever sequestered, the external discoverability of the communities themselves is exceptional.
You will not ever reach the same people with the same ease of use as Discord if you use a hosted alternative.
the only "feature" that discord has is that other people use it.
If you're communicating with your wife over it, i can assure you the barrier to entry is the amount of time it takes to set up a mumble server, and the money that hosting it will cost. Configuring a mumble client takes like 12 seconds.
The company is the heart of the software and it would not exist without the company most likely. True the execs get probably a larger share of any payments but it's just the way the world works. It's a piece of software produced by the company, not the developers.
Yes that is the sad reality of it, but I don't think it justifies sending money to the company in the first place. They're backed by VC and are already predisposed to screw you financially in the longrun. Why accelerate this with donations
that's true. however, you're gonna have a tough time finding something to run on there that isn't worse than discord by any reasonable metric.
like, buddy, i get it. i also selfhost. but let's not lie to ourselves. google drive is LIGHTYEARS ahead of collabora, matrix is a buggy mess, jellyfin -- okay, well jellyfin is actually unironically better than netflix, but that's assuming you have the technical chops to run a seedbox and the money to bulid a sufficiently beefy transcoding server (either that or put up with external video players, excessive bandwidth usage, and in some cases stuttering bc of software decoding), and you can either overlook the moral issues or buy everything on blu-ray, and ChatGPT and friends might suck total ass but they can still run circles around anything you can load into ollama.
this is also ignoring the fact that you would need the technical know-how to self-host, which as techies we tend to underestimate. is docker easy for us? yes. is it easy for joe random who may or may not have ever intentionally opened his browser devtools? no. plus there's still configuration files to think of. but even if you're using one of those easy vps services that does all that for you, you're still selfhosting a freaking chat platform. assuming you want to talk to anyone who isn't an LLM, you're going to have to either convince them to join your chat platform and then do moderation, or federate, in which case, what can you get from a single user instance that you can't get by joining someone else's instance and saving yourself a LOT of hassle?
Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I'm not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what's currently relevant.
I mean if they have channels called like "CP Central" and the users all talk about how great the CP is on CP Central all the time then it really doesn't matter how many messages you skip.
Also
I'm not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what's currently relevant.
My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn't name 10 I give a shit about.
As a user you're voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it's moderated. Ignorance isn't a defense here; a server doesn't get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.
Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There's no content verification and lots of active channels.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there's no lack of places to find porn on the internet.
Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you'd hear about this way more.
Discord doesn't want to ban users, it's bad for business. They know what servers you're in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.
Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You're tilting at windmills people...
1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you've been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.
And I think I'm pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.
I'm in exactly 1 server, that my friend uses to organize game night at his place with many other people. If I could get him to switch platforms I would delete my account.
I'm in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven't used Reddit since the API bullshit... I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don't feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check
*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.
I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can't see?
More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.
how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?
how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?
people get banned for both
get off people's asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we're not paid discord admins and we're not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.
content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn't get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?
I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.
By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.
Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it's the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.
IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.
My point is that it's very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.
Of course it's possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.
In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I'm aware.
I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an "illegal" talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?
And I'm not looking forwards to the effort it is going to take to get my friends to migrate away from discord. It was hard enough to get them on discord in the first place.
Same happened to me but with animal cruelty content or something. I tried to get the account back but turns out it was a "ban wave" so a lot of other people who got banned but were innocent were doing the same so discords services got overwhelmed by the appeals. Maybe they should have realized after that that this kinda banning is a horrible approach.
This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).
But imagine if it was your email account!
Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.
He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition
So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it
The phone automatically backs up the photo
Google's AI says it's child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted
Police look into it and say "not porn, totally fine" but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted
Currently having problems with GMail
I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail
And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works
Googles account recovery policy is basically:
2fA
recovery email
create a new account x.x
I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option
Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail
But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away
You can still accidentally leak your password via phishing or malware. 2FA is fine if you don't tie it to a phone number, simplest way: install any authenticator app for TOTP tokens. Scan the QR code on multiple devices like phone + tablet, or old phone, for redundancy. Or save the secret key.
Google and most critical services also give you a list of 10 single use emergency codes that you should print or save in Keepass - lost the phone? Nbd just use one of the codes and reset 2FA.
I also never thought my non shared password would be public but one day I suddenly got prompted on the authenticator if I wanted to login; still no idea how or why but at least no one could get in and immediately rotated out the password.
This is what I do as well. A few services force 2fa though and also have 0 good options (let me use my flipper as a u2f through not chrome, ungoogled-chromium works, but damn), and for those I'm forced to use text.
While I'm here, anyone have a good chrome based browser that is private and can use serial ports for flashing meshtastic devices and u2f? Need android mainly because I have ungoogled-chromium on linux, but will take recs for linux too if there's a better one.
Nah, any decent password manager or security application can manage multi-factor security credentials of any kind without lock-out due to phone loss.
Password authentication is beyond primitive by offering too many avenues of attack: the full secret is transmitted & shared.
Passkeys, client certificates, OTP don't transmit the secret key.
Passkeys & client certificates authentication never share a secret key, so the server can't expose it.
This made me thinking about Valve potentially banning my 19-years-old Steam account due to some error or a mistake 💀 I heard bad things about their customer support.
On this topic: I currently have installed on my phone and computer: slack, zoom, MSTeams, element, discord, Facebook messenger and signal to communicate in various projects and friends. What is this madness?!
I remember what a game changer Trillian was 20 years ago. Having AIM, MSN, and ICQ all in one app was so nice. I have yet to find anything modern like that. I just checked and Trillian still exists but it appears to just be its own stand alone chat app now.
I created a Discord account so I could try Midjourney and my account got blocked within a few hours. I use a VPN most of the time, can't remember if I was with Discord so might have had the same IP as another user. Didn't bother to set up another account.
Given their reputation, you should question if it’s actually due to CP, or some other kind of possible political crackdown. I wouldn’t assume either way.
Usually when it looks like these people are doing their jobs for once, it turns out to be something in line with their previous shit.
I have a Discord but I hear a lot about how easily you can get banned, largely on the whims of the people running a single server, so I've always been a bit reluctant to use it.
Also, I find it genuinely disturbing how much information all these companies have about you and your stuff.
I'm legitimately paranoid about this scenario, especially since I'm in a couple of ERP servers, and I was friends with ReploidRevo.. yes THAT ReploidRevo, and never knew about what he did until after his downfall went viral. (Shocked the Hell out of me because he seemed so normal and on the up and up)
So basically if you hate a community, you just gotta go there and post some no-no pics, and everything gets nuked? Great, I'm sure nobody will abuse this.
i hate discord so much my first discord account got permabanned because the owner of a server i was in went nuts and doxxed 8 year olds and my second account i got locked out for a year because they thought i was a bot and i couldnt use my phone number to verify because it was already in use on my first account then when i finally got in it had a 6 month ban because a server i was in got raided by racists that said slurs
Whats the draw of discord? I don't get why people go on there. It's boring af and you gotta talk with people while you play video games. I'll go on if I absolutely have to for a group, but I avoid if I can.
Being able to enter and sit inside a call where your friends can see that a call is active and who is in call is a really nice feature. It completely negates having to ping a whole group that may or may not be available like with Skype.
Chat plus streaming as a freemium service that has its hooks in with the networking effect.
Probably the biggest draw of Discord is how many people use Discord. But past that, it fills a bunch of real time social media roles well.
As a case in point, I'm in a game of Pathfinder Kingmaker with friends, and Discord does a good job of letting players join virtually, sharing screens, rolling dice, keeping a log of the different chats, pinning the links to the Kingdom management files, and providing a search function to find historical info.
I still don’t understand the point of discord. I just deleted the app cause it was sooooo boring. The only social media I have is a perma banned reddit account (a few), snapchat (which I never use anymore as I have grown out of it and it has turned to absolute shit) and the lemmsters. Feeling good
So, if anyone in this thread ever posts CP elsewhere on lemmy, or even here in this thread now that you're already here, you think your acct should be wholly banned from lemmy because you are who you associate with?
No, he didn't say "I joined a CP discord group," he said it was a discord group. To use your subreddit analogy, if you join a subreddit called like r/gaming or some shit where they post about games, and someone posts CP anytime after the date you joined, you should be banned even if you didn't open the app that day.
I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt either, for all I know you're on c/CP which I didn't know existed, and I could be banned for arguing you here. Maybe I should block/report you just to be safe, hmm? Idfk what comms exist on Lenis . org or whatever your server is, sounds sketch tbh..
When you go into a public space and see a guy you've never seen or heard of before in your life and then later get arrested for associating with a sexual predator because you looked at that guy even though nothing about him even hinted at anything to do with crime of any sort.
That’s sadder than he seems to understand it is.
I know "lol anon has no friends" is le epic funny meme but by friends, they obviously meant their contacts.
I have a lot of people, I'd consider friends, that I only communicate with through discord. If I lost my account, I'd likely never hear from them again. Kinda get it.
Idk might just be talking about his online friend's. But knowing 4chan maybe not
This is one of the bigger reasons I don't want to use social media controlled by a corporation, it means they can choose to cut me off from people at their discretion, which will probably be based on what is convenient and easy for them.
Luigi is an American hero. Whether he did it or not is irrelevant. It's what he stands for.
Which six companies? Let's assume we count "social media" as "media".
Meta, Musk Rat & Co, Google, what else?
Comprehended, yes this is reality you speak of.
They’re banning people for upvoting now lol
This, the second you aren't profitable, they put you in the modern day version of solitary confinement.
Never understood why anyone would want to pay 100$ a year for discord, the paid version doesnt give you that much imo
Which is a good monetation system. Premium users barely get anything but still enough to pay, while free users can do pretty much everything too.
Discord makes money by selling data, premium is just extra
I don't think they're selling any data from what I've heard. For now. The owner has a past of selling out.
personally the $3 a month nitro is worth it for me, considering how much I use it. I know Lemmy hates anything capitalist but a coffee a month isnt that much
Personally, Discord has facilitated a long distance relationship with my now wife, and nearly ten years of weekly TTRPG games. I don't mind the cost because they cannot provide that service for free forever, and I think it's worth it for what I get out of it. The other benefits they add for paying are almost just bonuses to me after that.
you could also pay to host some shit like mumble.
It cannot be overstated how much of a boon Discord's lack of friction is for connecting with people and forming communities. It is mind-flatteningly easy to get onto Discord and into a community, and while the content of those communities is woefully unindexed deep web, forever sequestered, the external discoverability of the communities themselves is exceptional.
You will not ever reach the same people with the same ease of use as Discord if you use a hosted alternative.
the only "feature" that discord has is that other people use it.
If you're communicating with your wife over it, i can assure you the barrier to entry is the amount of time it takes to set up a mumble server, and the money that hosting it will cost. Configuring a mumble client takes like 12 seconds.
Mumble does not look like a replacement for all the things I use Discord for.
certainly not, but it's a solid VOIP replacement. The best one on the market.
I pay $30 a year for Nitro Basic. It's only $2.50 a month and worth it to me with how much I use it.
Same, I call it my "shitposting tax"
To support the developers and pay for a product you use all the time? Same reason you pay for any software/game.
I agree with you in principle for supporting developers directly through something like OpenCollective....
... but ask Mozilla how much their Firefox devs get for each financial donation.
The company is the heart of the software and it would not exist without the company most likely. True the execs get probably a larger share of any payments but it's just the way the world works. It's a piece of software produced by the company, not the developers.
Yes that is the sad reality of it, but I don't think it justifies sending money to the company in the first place. They're backed by VC and are already predisposed to screw you financially in the longrun. Why accelerate this with donations
Lol. Read their EULA
You don't wanna pay $100 for a bunch of useless stickers and random features that don't need to be in a chat program? Whaaaaaat? That's weird. ^/s^
that's true. however, you're gonna have a tough time finding something to run on there that isn't worse than discord by any reasonable metric.
like, buddy, i get it. i also selfhost. but let's not lie to ourselves. google drive is LIGHTYEARS ahead of collabora, matrix is a buggy mess, jellyfin -- okay, well jellyfin is actually unironically better than netflix, but that's assuming you have the technical chops to run a seedbox and the money to bulid a sufficiently beefy transcoding server (either that or put up with external video players, excessive bandwidth usage, and in some cases stuttering bc of software decoding), and you can either overlook the moral issues or buy everything on blu-ray, and ChatGPT and friends might suck total ass but they can still run circles around anything you can load into ollama.
this is also ignoring the fact that you would need the technical know-how to self-host, which as techies we tend to underestimate. is docker easy for us? yes. is it easy for joe random who may or may not have ever intentionally opened his browser devtools? no. plus there's still configuration files to think of. but even if you're using one of those easy vps services that does all that for you, you're still selfhosting a freaking chat platform. assuming you want to talk to anyone who isn't an LLM, you're going to have to either convince them to join your chat platform and then do moderation, or federate, in which case, what can you get from a single user instance that you can't get by joining someone else's instance and saving yourself a LOT of hassle?
Anon doesn't know, Discord fails to include a libre software license text file. We do not control it, anti-libre software.
That is kinda bullshit if they didn't even see the content.
I mean, seeing as it’s a 4chan greentext there’s probably some very important information being left out.
Entirely possible.
Just because they didn't participate doesn't mean they didn't know it was there.
Discord specifically has a skip to most recent post button, that i use frequently on the busier ones, because I'm not scrolling through two miles of unrelated nonsense and sub-convos to get to what's currently relevant.
Am I guilty of thoughtcrime?
I mean if they have channels called like "CP Central" and the users all talk about how great the CP is on CP Central all the time then it really doesn't matter how many messages you skip.
Also
This bullshit is exactly why I don't use discord.
My question is why do people feel the need to be in 40 servers? I couldn't name 10 I give a shit about.
As a user you're voluntarily joining a server, you should know what the content is and how well it's moderated. Ignorance isn't a defense here; a server doesn't get nuked for one bad actor posting illegal content once or twice.
Nine times out of ten these stories are from a user that joins servers made for NSFW content (usually for something like OF leaks). There's no content verification and lots of active channels.
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize that combo almost always ends poorly (see: reddit jailbait or old pornhub). If it feels risky just leave, there's no lack of places to find porn on the internet.
Edit: The downvotes and replies are hilarious. Have any of you actually been banned? Do you know anyone that has been banned? If these small servers for games or 10k member general servers were the issue, you'd hear about this way more.
Discord doesn't want to ban users, it's bad for business. They know what servers you're in and how you access them. If they think banning someone is worth it its to cover their ass on ACTUAL crime; nothing about this is thought crime.
Again, give me any counter example of masses of users being unjustly banned. You're tilting at windmills people...
1-3 for friend groups, 3-20 for various games because devs decided to stop using traditional forums so if you want to talk shit to a game devs face regarding changes that fix the exploit you've been using to have fun you have to pretend to be a discord kitten for months and gain their confidence so you can appropriately deal enough psychic damage to repay what they took from you, 5-10 for foss software collaboration, 5-10 for obscure porn game contribution so it stops taking ten fucking months between updates.
And I think I'm pretty asocial. Normies must have thousands of servers joined.
I'm in exactly 1 server, that my friend uses to organize game night at his place with many other people. If I could get him to switch platforms I would delete my account.
Limit is 200 with nitro but there is a reason why unofficial clients have workarounds for the limit
I'm in 60+ servers, but actively follow maybe 4-5. Others are for different games, twitch communities, lots of subreddit discords since I haven't used Reddit since the API bullshit... I should trim down the list but I like popping in to them occasionally, don't feel like I should get banned due to activity in a server I rarely check
I'm in 23 different discord servers. Tech, hacking, DIY, cars, music, etc.
Bro got down voted for telling the unwashed masses to practice some vigilance and personal responsibility. Fuck...
*for telling people they are responsible for what others do in a chatroom they may look at once and then ignore.
I am in discords I never engage with, but literally only have as a place I can search for answers, like a niche alternative to stack overflow. It is absurd for me to be held to the standard of policing everything that happens on those servers just in case some of it might be bad. Discords can also have permissions limited viewing. Are we supposed to know what happens in the channels we can't see?
More importantly, despite how much work it is to do so, punishments have to be applied on an individual level. Punishing people who are in a class is too vague.
how is it my problem if an emote server i joined years ago and never even opened since turns bad?
how is it my problem that a hidden channel i never saw broke TOS?
people get banned for both
get off people's asses for not being discord batmans hunting down TOS violations across every channel, every day in every server they join. we're not paid discord admins and we're not doing their goddamn work for them, besides even those reporting can get banned.
content like this should be removed yes but proximity to it shouldn't get you banned. Do you think it would be a good idea to arrest an entire block of flats because one resident turned out to be a criminal? Do you think it would be bright to expect every single resident to have figured out a crime was about to happen and leave for the duration of it?
You know that some servers can have tens of thousands of people right?
What's your point? That personal responsibly stops existing in a large group of people?
I mean, Lemmy used to have a big issue with CSAM being spammed by malicious users. Many people believed that it was pro-Reddit trolls, because it started happening right around the same time as the giant API debacle. It was a huge liability for the instance owners, because their server would automatically cache the content and they could be held liable for the CSAM being present on their server. It took a few months of dev time to add moderation tools, blacklisting, setting up automods, etc before it finally calmed down to the point that instance owners felt comfortable again.
By your logic, every single user in instances that got spammed should be banned. Because even if they didn’t see it, or interact with it in any way, they’re still personally responsible for it. After all, personal responsibility doesn’t stop existing in a large group of people.
Lemmy is celebrating cracking 50,000 users. Discord has 200 million MAU. They take a broader approach to punishment because it's the only feasible way to avoid legal problems.
IIRC some Lemmy instances were defederated at that time for poor moderation and nobody complained. Its a reasonable approach to avoid liability.
So, what you're saying is, if someone on your Lemmy instance breaks the rules of another instance, your entire instance should be defederated, right?
When are you turning yourself in for associating with that one pedophile by existing in the same country?
My point is that it's very naïve to assume that everyone in a given server knows what one person potentially posted once, especially the large servers.
Of course it's possible they knew, but assuming by default that they had to have known is stupid.
Presumption of innocence is a thing, you know?
In 2020 some small servers (50-200 people per server) got cover banned with all their users, mostly for political talk, as far as I'm aware.
I, personally, usually join such small servers while looking for lobby members in older games, I have a couple of them muted except for channels dedicated specifically to game lobbies. If someone starts an "illegal" talk in any other channel on one of these, why should I be held liable? Or am I suddenly obligated to hunt for pipe bomb recipes in any server I join?
I don't really know how to use Discord except by muting servers immediately after joining and probably never looking at them again
Just because they're part of the server doesn't mean they knew it was there.
It doesn't prove that they knew either. We have this thing called presumption of innocence.
Yeah, in constitutional law. Not in Discord lol.
And I'm not looking forwards to the effort it is going to take to get my friends to migrate away from discord. It was hard enough to get them on discord in the first place.
I mean, if you’re on 4chan…
This was my first thought.
Obviously did some shit then trying to gain sympathy like omg I was banned for being nice.
You cuck.
Same happened to me but with animal cruelty content or something. I tried to get the account back but turns out it was a "ban wave" so a lot of other people who got banned but were innocent were doing the same so discords services got overwhelmed by the appeals. Maybe they should have realized after that that this kinda banning is a horrible approach.
Anon's big mistake was not being the President of the Gulf of America.
This is why people should be worried of using these massive services, luckily it was ‘only’ Discord (if this was your primary way to interact with friends, this can be a huge deal).
But imagine if it was your email account!
Getting a reputable provider, self hosting or using a decentralized option is paramount for your own sanity.
There was that man who was all in on Google.
He had a telemedicine appointment for his son who had a problem with his penis. Dr asked him to send a close-up photo so he could diagnose the skin condition
So the guy takes the photo with his pixel phone and sends it
The phone automatically backs up the photo
Google's AI says it's child porn, his account is deleted and police are contacted
Police look into it and say "not porn, totally fine" but have to go to his house to tell him the was no problem because his phone was Google, his internet was Google fibre, his email was Gmail and his photo album was on Google and all that was irrevocably deleted
That's insane
Yep. Guy had his life pretty much ruined. Don't tether your life to a company — they don't care about you, they have no duty toward you
Currently having problems with GMail I lost my old phone (2fA) and no device was logged in so i could not access steam and like everything that requires that old mail
And my phone provider or postal service is stupid because i could not get a replacement sim after multiple tries which normally works
Googles account recovery policy is basically:
I think the recovery mail option only gets unlocked after 6? months inactivity because ~3 months ago i did not have the option
Now after requesting a recovery i still have to wait a full month before they maybe send me a password reset to my moms mail
But steam support was nice. Managed to get the account by providing a product key i used a few months ago and was lucky enough not to have thrown the physical card away
You can still accidentally leak your password via phishing or malware. 2FA is fine if you don't tie it to a phone number, simplest way: install any authenticator app for TOTP tokens. Scan the QR code on multiple devices like phone + tablet, or old phone, for redundancy. Or save the secret key.
Google and most critical services also give you a list of 10 single use emergency codes that you should print or save in Keepass - lost the phone? Nbd just use one of the codes and reset 2FA.
I also never thought my non shared password would be public but one day I suddenly got prompted on the authenticator if I wanted to login; still no idea how or why but at least no one could get in and immediately rotated out the password.
This is what I do as well. A few services force 2fa though and also have 0 good options (let me use my flipper as a u2f through not chrome, ungoogled-chromium works, but damn), and for those I'm forced to use text.
While I'm here, anyone have a good chrome based browser that is private and can use serial ports for flashing meshtastic devices and u2f? Need android mainly because I have ungoogled-chromium on linux, but will take recs for linux too if there's a better one.
Nah, any decent password manager or security application can manage multi-factor security credentials of any kind without lock-out due to phone loss.
Password authentication is beyond primitive by offering too many avenues of attack: the full secret is transmitted & shared. Passkeys, client certificates, OTP don't transmit the secret key. Passkeys & client certificates authentication never share a secret key, so the server can't expose it.
This made me thinking about Valve potentially banning my 19-years-old Steam account due to some error or a mistake 💀 I heard bad things about their customer support.
On this topic: I currently have installed on my phone and computer: slack, zoom, MSTeams, element, discord, Facebook messenger and signal to communicate in various projects and friends. What is this madness?!
Add telegram, threema, another matrix client for that other server and WhatsApp for some old friends to it
Can we throw in LINE and KakaoTalk for shits and giggles?
Do you guys have aim?
I remember what a game changer Trillian was 20 years ago. Having AIM, MSN, and ICQ all in one app was so nice. I have yet to find anything modern like that. I just checked and Trillian still exists but it appears to just be its own stand alone chat app now.
Anon forgot to put their interpersonal relationships in a RAID array
I created a Discord account so I could try Midjourney and my account got blocked within a few hours. I use a VPN most of the time, can't remember if I was with Discord so might have had the same IP as another user. Didn't bother to set up another account.
They block most VPNs outright.
All the more reason to not use Discord imo.
Mullvad works.
Good on discord for actually doing something given their reputation
Given their reputation, you should question if it’s actually due to CP, or some other kind of possible political crackdown. I wouldn’t assume either way.
Usually when it looks like these people are doing their jobs for once, it turns out to be something in line with their previous shit.
I have a Discord but I hear a lot about how easily you can get banned, largely on the whims of the people running a single server, so I've always been a bit reluctant to use it.
Also, I find it genuinely disturbing how much information all these companies have about you and your stuff.
I'm legitimately paranoid about this scenario, especially since I'm in a couple of ERP servers, and I was friends with ReploidRevo.. yes THAT ReploidRevo, and never knew about what he did until after his downfall went viral. (Shocked the Hell out of me because he seemed so normal and on the up and up)
imagine gooning on main
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gooner? or just curious?
I don't know what you're talking about, it's just fun pretend roleplay with consenting adult other parties
gosh, that makes me feel really nervous
Same! Perhaps I should prune my Discord servers
Discord usually just uses some bullshit allegations when they feel like kicking accounts down
Its greentext. Its not real/true.
And yet it is.
Can't say if this anon specifically had this happen, but there's plenty of proof of it happening.
So basically if you hate a community, you just gotta go there and post some no-no pics, and everything gets nuked? Great, I'm sure nobody will abuse this.
Fake and gay as they say
I watch enough No Text To Speech to belive this is true. I even think he had a video about this
Anon can at least hope to appeal the suspension as its not a complete ban but support might take a while
I'm worried that for reporting all those servers and people, I will get a permaban as a thank you.
i hate discord so much my first discord account got permabanned because the owner of a server i was in went nuts and doxxed 8 year olds and my second account i got locked out for a year because they thought i was a bot and i couldnt use my phone number to verify because it was already in use on my first account then when i finally got in it had a 6 month ban because a server i was in got raided by racists that said slurs
This doesn't sound "user friendly" at all to me
I've never had a Discord account. It's gamers, right?
Whats the draw of discord? I don't get why people go on there. It's boring af and you gotta talk with people while you play video games. I'll go on if I absolutely have to for a group, but I avoid if I can.
Being able to enter and sit inside a call where your friends can see that a call is active and who is in call is a really nice feature. It completely negates having to ping a whole group that may or may not be available like with Skype.
Chat plus streaming as a freemium service that has its hooks in with the networking effect.
Probably the biggest draw of Discord is how many people use Discord. But past that, it fills a bunch of real time social media roles well.
As a case in point, I'm in a game of Pathfinder Kingmaker with friends, and Discord does a good job of letting players join virtually, sharing screens, rolling dice, keeping a log of the different chats, pinning the links to the Kingdom management files, and providing a search function to find historical info.
I still don’t understand the point of discord. I just deleted the app cause it was sooooo boring. The only social media I have is a perma banned reddit account (a few), snapchat (which I never use anymore as I have grown out of it and it has turned to absolute shit) and the lemmsters. Feeling good
That's cool man
So, if anyone in this thread ever posts CP elsewhere on lemmy, or even here in this thread now that you're already here, you think your acct should be wholly banned from lemmy because you are who you associate with?
No, he didn't say "I joined a CP discord group," he said it was a discord group. To use your subreddit analogy, if you join a subreddit called like r/gaming or some shit where they post about games, and someone posts CP anytime after the date you joined, you should be banned even if you didn't open the app that day.
I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt either, for all I know you're on c/CP which I didn't know existed, and I could be banned for arguing you here. Maybe I should block/report you just to be safe, hmm? Idfk what comms exist on Lenis . org or whatever your server is, sounds sketch tbh..
When you go into a public space and see a guy you've never seen or heard of before in your life and then later get arrested for associating with a sexual predator because you looked at that guy even though nothing about him even hinted at anything to do with crime of any sort.
Damn you really be lacking reading comprehension skills dont you
Must be why in most democratic nations you have no freedom of association.
Believe it or not, most pedos aren't super open about it.