Spyke
lemmy.nz

Well we are spoiled for choice none the less

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chrizbiereply
lemmy.nz

Actually I've been using Jerboa for long enough that I've really gotten used to it and I love it now, super functional

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mander.xyz

It seems unsustainable and mixed up to think no one should ever use non-FOSS options for anything.

Maybe that would be the case if we were in some post scarcity perfect society where no one needed income, and all devs were just doing it for self-fulfillment, but I can't blame someone for wanting to make income off of their work. Especially if they seem like a reasonable person, wanting reasonable amounts for good work.

Isn't supporting a smaller dev a good thing? I mean, this guy got screwed over by reddit fucking up his income.

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rob64reply
startrek.website

Ain't that the truth. People act like charging for software is evil no matter what. There's a huge difference between a lone dev trying to earn a living and a huge corporation trying to wring every last ounce of profit out of their users. And there's probably degrees of nuance between those.

Especially if they seem like a reasonable person, wanting reasonable amounts for good work.

And that's the important context in this discussion. You've got a dev who's active in the community and who builds an app not only with great features and UI but with stability too. And he has a not insignificant user base that is familiar not just with his work but essentially with this exact app... It's reasonable for him to assume we'll see the value and be willing to pay. And he is correct.

I'm personally averse to subscription models, but again context matters. Reasonable rate and you know what you're getting. And I say this as a huge fan of both FOSS and socialism. I could have easily just let my DNS continue to filter out the ads, but I appreciate quality and believe it should be appropriately compensated.

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mander.xyz

actually, speaking of the subscription, the fact that ads can be removed with either the subscription or a one time payment is one of my favorite things about sync. I don't really like subscriptions either, but then the only feature I really wanted from Sync was the ads removed, so I don't have to even care about the subscription. I wish that kind of monetization style was WAY more popular.

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And I only subscribed because the one-time purchase was not available at that moment, so I assumed no such option existed. But honestly, I'll continue to pay the subscription. It's still less than a year's worth of my monthly donations to the developer of Tasker.

6

I got like ten years out of Sync for Reddit. I even bought the $30 package and feel like I got more than my money's worth.

13

I will rather support dev that don't already make money by selling my personal data.

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BedSharkPalreply
lemmy.ca

No kbin? Looks like we've got an amateur over here!

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rbitsreply

The public beta hasn't been released yet

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noobreply

Not that I'm aware of; Artemis appears to be the only app under development at the moment; do let me know if you know of any others.

2

That's a shiny that I haven't caught yet, there are legends that it's out there somewhere

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moonmeowreply
lemmy.ml

You're right, I do. I only have 1 app. What's wrong with me.

What is your most favorite one you'd recommend?

4

Thunder and sync are the ones I use the most but they're almost all good, if one has a bug I just switch lol

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UhBellreply
lemmy.world

Thunder has been my main app for a while but Sync just works so well. Also seems to be less battery intensive.

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Phlojakreply
aussie.zone

It's nearly AUD $35 in my country. Pretty steep, and the full functionality isn't quite there yet. (Can't post, limited search etc)

If it goes on sale it'll be an insta-buy, but the price right now is kinda high.

12

I'm willing to give a lot of leeway these days for single purchase pricing. Everybody in their freaking brother is going on the subscription model. These people are asking for one year worth of subscription price upfront and lifetime access to an app I am all about it.

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The team is looking into optimizations to try and smooth out some of the jank that's still present in places. Should reduce CPU and battery use as well.

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I think it's because it's kind of irrelevant to the discussion.

Connect:

  • is completely free - no ads
  • but not FOSS

It's never going to be featured in general FOSS Team depictions or discussions.

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lemmy.ml

That pill bottle was ripped open and I snorted all that sync as soon as it was refilled.

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figaroreply

Yup. I had $5 of Google opinion rewards money saved, so it was only 15ish out of the bank account. I work full time... I think I'll be fine. Plus honestly, the dude worked hard creating a fantastic app. He deserves to be rewarded for that.

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Imgonnatrythisreply
lemmy.world

All these shit posts are fun, but why is connect a red haired step child all the time? Any legit arguments against it? Has room for improvement, but it's the best I've found thus far.

12

The only thing I didn't like about connect was for image loading. When I click on an image it is blurry and comes to clarity. Loading is an issue. I don't know if there is any settings for it inside the app. Whereas in sync it loads perfectly fine for me.

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wolre
lemmy.world

Infinity is going to be great once everything is properly supported!

31

Yeah second that. I'm just waiting for community blocking to be implemented, user blocking is there but it's not working right now.

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wolrereply

As far as I know, that's the plan. They just haven't had an initial non-alpha/beta release yet since the app is still quite unfinished (references to Reddit, certain menus just error out, etc.)

You usually want to have a product that is kind of working when you ship it to normies

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lemmy.world

Infinity for lemmy just dropped in F-droid. Hello old friend....glad you've arrived

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ethragurreply
lemmy.world

Hmm, can't find it on fdroid, do I need to add a repo?

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panCatreply
lemmy.world

I think the version on repo is older than the git version

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Thanks! Just grabbed it. It is my favorite so far, probably cause I used infinity on Reddit.

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puppy
lemmy.world

How is Sync so much smoother and faster than others?

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puppyreply
lemmy.world

Shouldn't Infinity have the same polish then? I am a Software Engineer (not front-end though) and I'd be fascinated to learn the technical differences.

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  1. It's not being developed for that long
  2. It's a different developer who needs to get familiar with the code
  3. He's doing it in his free time unlike the Sync dev
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My guess is because it's not the original developer for the app. So they are still figuring things out on how to transition the app to Lemmy.

But I have no doubt they'll get there :)

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Ghost_Seeker69reply
sh.itjust.works

I'm using infinity and it does have the polish. I don't get the fuss about "tHe OtHeR aPpS dOn'T hAvE tHe sMoOtHnEsS!!1!11!"

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I'm juggling between both and Infinity is definitely less polished. From how reliable the gestures are for going back from comments to posts vs downvoting them, to returning to the same position on a post if you back out to go back in, to the general UI options and settings pages.

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puppyreply
lemmy.world

I have both Sync and Infinity (and Voyager) installed side by side and Infinity takes significantly longer to load.

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lemmy.studio

What I'm still struggling with is if it's still ok with my mortal compass to use Reddit to find information I know will be there. Specifically, product reviews.

I'm no longer contributing content on Reddit, and I'm not passively browsing either, but how do y'all feel about tapping reddit's wealth of information?

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UhBellreply
lemmy.world

Do whatever you want, bud. If the info is helpful to you, who is anybody to say you can't access it?

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lemmy.world

I subscribe to RSS feeds for subreddits that don't exist on Lemmy just so that I don't give them any clicks or ad revenue.

For answers to questions or problems that are only available on Reddit, I turn on my favorite privacy browser, I hold my breath, go to that specific post, get my answer, and gtfo asap.

Like the saying goes, never stick it in crazy. But if you have to, be protected.

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zuluwalkerreply
lemmy.ml

Good way to keep track of deals/promos and freebies on some subs, just add .rss to the link, input in Feeder, and you're good to go!

1

Why not? I still look up information there too, but I use an adblocker, so it's not like Spez is profiting from me.

If you don't want to give them traffic, you can always visit the search result URL through the Wayback Machine or Archive.today.

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lemmy.world

I'm on Jerboa and downloaded/installed sync yesterday. As a former RIF user, I don't have a horse in this race. I am more familiar with Jerboa, but find the overall feel of both (admittedly, without a lot of use, to be pretty comparable).

That said, I kind of like some of the ideas in Jerboa more? For example, tap to minimize comments and their children on Jerboa is quite a bit faster. I'm kind of sad that both make selecting some of the text in a comment hard and miss the RIF collapse/expand button. Jerboa also matches the font size of everything else in my UI better than Sync. For example, the font size of this reply and my keyboard are the same in Jerboa. In Sync the in-app font size is quite a bit smaller.

At the end of the day, I think that both apps are going to be largely comparable for a fairly casual user like me. I bet both offer more functionality than I'm using, but so far I don't feel like I'm missing anything.

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frenchdressesreply
lemmy.world

Just an FYI, you can change the "tap to minimize comments and their children" faster in the settings for sync. Same with font size

That's what I like about sync the most, you can customize it to a T.

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prumblesreply
lemmy.world

I no longer have an Android so idk how the new Sync is, but the version for Reddit was extremely customizable and did have option to disable tap to minimize and give you a button instead. I used Sync daily for nearly 10 years and itโ€™s by far the best experience Iโ€™ve had

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IMALlamareply
lemmy.world

Thanks for the info, I will have to dig for that option. Part of the reason why I asked to see what I was missing :)

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Qualanquireply
lemmy.nz

Jerboa also matches the font size of everything else in my UI better

This has been my biggest annoyance in all the apps I've tried so far, I'm using thunder at the moment and it's extra large font is juuust big enough, but still way too small to be called extra large.

Quite a few of the others don't even have that though, liftoff was terrible for it with no option to change it and Jerboa is easily the best in this regard but with it scaled up to match my UI it's a too much scrolling and weird formatting.

Can't wait for Boost, it was my reddit go to for years simply because of all it's toggles, I could customize pretty much every part of the UI. Which is probably why it's taking a while to come out, there was quite a bit more to it than pretty much any other of the alternatives.

5

More font options incoming on Thunder. Not sure about more sizes, but the sizing options are still being worked on so maybe make a feature request?

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During my reddit days I used boost and sync interchangeably. Because they're so similar. But the last app I used before leaving reddit was boost.

Now I'm using Voyager and infinity. I have arctius but it gets less usage.

I also install and cycle through all the available android apps. And so far amongst the non reddit apps. Connect and lift off were the best, summit is nearly there, thunder can surpass summit of the slow loading and browsing problem is resolved.

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Laticaudareply
lemmy.ca

I honestly couldn't stand Jerboa personally back when I used it so for me it's nothing like sync (which is my favourite app so far even on the free version), but maybe Jerboa has improved since I left.

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It was definitely buggy as hell if thats what you mean. But yeah it's improved and I don't have issues with anything anymore.

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MiddleWeighreply
lemmy.world

I used jerboa for last few months, but I got sync the other day, and it is very smooth but I'm really missing certain things from jerboa I found super intuitive. Also in sync I can't seem to highlight, copy, paste from a posted comment...perhaps that's a paid feature only? Also no post creation is kinda lame, and I hope that is not behind a pay wall too. ..I don't mind paying guy for his work, but I can't afford it.

I was also a RiF user (:

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st33foreply
lemmy.world

Should be this option when you tap a comment and hit the triple dot button.

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IMALlamareply
lemmy.world

In RIF you could tap-hold on the text to select it since they had a dedicated button for collapse.

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Razpreply

There is a setting to select text on long press on Sync. Sync is extremely customizable.

2

Yeah that option is only available for posts on sync unfortunately.

But a neato system wide thing with Android is now you can use recents to select text on any app. It's so convenient.

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Former RIF user + current Jerboa user, too. I'm happy so far. I'm also very casual/waaaay less tech knowledgeable than most other people on the platform, and I'm sure that has influenced my opionion

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bitspleasereply
lemmy.ml

It's really like reddit clients, there is no single "best" choice, because everyone has different preferences. There were some reddit clients that people swore by and raved about that I absolutely hated, and others that I loved that no one else used.

More choices is never a bad thing

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lemmy.world

Huge sync fan and pro user for many years now but I couldn't get over the subscription and especially the one off cost, it's just too much.

Been using infinity for reddit as soon as sync went down and it's easily my favourite app out of all that's available but it's not without it's downsides, at least to me. So I'll happily use inifity for lemmy from now on, it even seems to run better then the reddit app lol.

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Same here. It was my second favorite Reddit client (after Boost, and, for a while, Dash), but I feel he priced himself right out of the market. I'm waiting to see what Boost for Lemmy has to offer and at what cost.

I never really warmed up to Infinity for Reddit, but I'll give it another shot. Connect and LiftOff aren't bad either for being this early in development and Voyager just came out swinging.

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Carlreply
sh.itjust.works

I just paid for cheapest Sync Beta when I had Reddit, and I loved it... But $30 is too expensive. $5 seems more reasonable. And now I am addicted to using Jerboa.

2

Yeah that's what I mean, there's too many good competition out their right now that don't offer ads on top of lemmy not giving ads in the first place.

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lemmy.studio

I haven't tried Sync but I've tried Connect and Jerboa and I'm now on Liftoff. All have felt pretty smooth to me, Liftoff especially is about as smooth as I could imagine anything being. I've got no problem with people using Sync bit I don't get how they're having such a bad experience on other apps.

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Websterreply
lemmy.world

I used the first two, but just enjoy the experience of sync better. If sync didn't exist, I'd be just fine and happy still. But I currently browse Lemmy 30 minutes to an hour each day, so $20 for no ads is something I'll probably eventually pay for the hundreds of hours I'll use the app.

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Yeah I certainly don't object to the cost, I'm happy to pay for good software. I guess I should try it to see what the benefit is, I can't tell from screenshots

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kortwotzereply

For me it's actually a bit about brand loyalty. Been using synch for 10+ years and got so used to it. I don't have problems with other Lemmy apps at all.

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upandadamreply
lemmy.ca

If you think that's the best one, you haven't tried Sync.

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I actually tried it before, didn't feel it was that much better over the open source alternatives

0

I've tried Connect and it failes to save imagesfor me. So maybe some incompatibility or something, but now I'm trying to live with Liftoff

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lemmy.world

Show me a foss client which shows community suggestions in the search bar when you start typing and auto collapsing comments features. Otherwise you can't change my mind.

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lemmy.world

No suggestion in search bar. I want this. Connect has this feature but auto comment collapsing is not there.

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yozreply
aussie.zone

Ah true. I am Downloading Connect. Thanks

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Manasreply
lemmy.world

Get Sync. Give it a shot. You'll love it . The seamless design . Fast object loading will spoil you.

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yozreply
aussie.zone

Fuck that. I did check in play store and it says that it collects data. No, thank you.

2

Be polite and chill. And what you can do is simply choose not to send data. It's an option that's provided in the app fyi lmao. " Oh it collects data I heard it from this guy" see for yourself lol.

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MaxMouseOCXreply
lemmy.world

I'm on Sync right now, immediately went to see how much it was to buy the pro version only to discover it's now subscription and if I want a one time payment it's a hundred bucks... Even just removing adverts is 20 bucks... Fuck this thing, I'm uninstalling.

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Manasreply
lemmy.world

It's okay to uninstall when you cannot pay. Understandable. But it's your problem. I don't get how paying for something good hurts you guys so much. You can choose other apps instead of being salty about it. The only reason you are salty is because you like sync but you wish it was cheaper.

-1

"the only reason you are salty is because you like sync but you wish it was cheaper"

Err... Yes, that's entirely the point...

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My choice was simple I need playback controls for video/gifs Tried liftoff and was great, but currently on sync and loving it

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Imgonnatrythisreply
lemmy.world

I think these only run on Linux?

HA! you guys HAVE to upvote me. I said Linux.

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margaritoxreply
lemmy.world

That canโ€™t be it. Iโ€™m seeing โ€œliftoffโ€ and thatโ€™s an ios app.

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atocci
kbin.social

I am trying so hard to be patient and stick to using kbin.

5

Artemis is getting its public beta soon, so an apollo esc app with kbins microblog and lemmy support makes it worthwhile to stick around

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R00botreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Fair enough I guess. The difference seems very minimal from what I've seen.

-1

It's the microblogging support that makes it better specifically. It's great to be able to use one account for that aspect of the fediverse as well.

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Not OP, but I like to see upvote and downvote counts separately. Mastodon integration is also good.

1

You can just move back to kbin once am app becomes available. Try using a lemmy app, just so you know what to look for when kbin apps appear.

2

This was me, lol. Initially their instant app was the best and I would have probably stuck with it if it hadn't been for all the logout and invalid CSRF tolken shenanigans. I also would occasionally have issues interacting with other instances. I made another account on lemmy.world and things are a bit smoother with the native apps. It's been a week or two since I hopped over and I've never had a login issue.

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lemmy.world

Anyone who has used liftoff, what's the difference really with sync? I tried sync but couldn't really tell a difference.

However the first app to come out with a tablet or two pane mode, I'm making my move to them

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Oh nice! Had only poked around on my phone for a little at work, definitely need to try on my tablet then

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Gushys
lemmy.world

Once Boost for Lemmy releases, inject it straight in my veins

4

How will users welcome it though. I kind of want to see. Will it also get a Sync reception? Will lemmy have double standards? Let's see what u/mayayo will do.

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lemmy.ml

voyager has a great ui. Only bad thing was it felt a bit junky before official play store release of the app but now it feels great. Just wish it would have a option to downlaod images.

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Boinkethreply
lemm.ee

I haven't tried the store release, but an issue I had with the PWA was that it was too laggy if you scrolled a lot. It also occasionally jumped around and would make you lose your place if you visited a community, changed the sorting mode, and then went back to your homepage.

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I had the same problems with the Web app but haven't had them since the store release.

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ijeffreply

It should be more consistent with the Play Store version.

2

I would love to use Thunder, but for some reason, my screen is locked to 60 Hz on Thunder, Connect and Liftoff and it's really off-putting.

4

When Sync got released, I was feeling guilty using it (as a jerboa user). But over time, I got used to it. It makes me use lemmy on my phone too, so I still consider this step in a better direction.

Functionality wise, I dislike icons and app icon on jerboa.

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panCat
lemmy.world

Idk who needs to know this , but despite using an alpha version of infinity , it is the smoothest app I have tried so far for lemmy!

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electriccarsreply
startrek.website

I don't know if you've heard of it, pretty obscure app but it's super smooth, have you tried Sync?

8

Nah i am good without ads , and would spend my dollars elsewhere!

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phantomc137reply
lemmy.world

can you link it please or tell me if u can get in GitHub I did went there but it's no apk

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CUFTA22
programming.dev

Can yall stop posting about this proprietary shitware app

this comment was posted from Jerboa, the app where you don't have to pay 20$ for the privilege of not seeing ads and not being tracked

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lemmy.world

I need a client that automatically marks as read as you scroll by. And it doesn't bring back the read threads every time you reopen or refresh the god damn app.

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Websterreply
lemmy.world

Sync and Connect are the two apps I've used and both have the capability of doing this. Let me know if you need help finding the settings.

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crashoverridereply
lemmy.world

Sync can do this, at least sync for reddit could, lemme see if that's still the case

8

Most of the clients I've used could do that (Connect, Voyager, Sync). You just have to go and look through the settings. Also the Lemmy web UI can hide read posts too. Just go to your account settings and untick the "show read posts" option

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Kit Sorensreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Noooo! How DARE you taint my FOSS environment with options for a subscription-incentive-driven UX! You're basically inviting FAANG to walk all over us! /s

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Wildf1rereply
lemm.ee

Why? Used sync for Reddit for 14 years, was the only way I would use Reddit. He dev is amazing, and I will always support his apps paying for the subscription. He works hard and created an amazing app. Genuinely interested why you believe it's bad? It is only in beta fyi.

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As far as I'm concerned this beta feels great. I switched from Jerboa almost instantly once I saw how smooth and feature rich everything was on Sync.

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