FBI nabs worker at DVD company for ripping prerelease blockbusters
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15 years? Wow. He could have run down multiple pedestrians, killed one of them, and used a false insurance claim to try to cover it up and gotten a third of that.
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/texas-man-sentenced-2024-hit-run-crash-killed-air-force-veteran-downtown-indianapolis-salvador-benales-james-breedlove/531-f7ddb3c7-c316-4b5a-b62f-b6162eff699d
Just goes to show how horrendous this sort of crime is. I hear dvd pirates are on the same cell blocks as pedophiles in prison.
What? Really? I would have thought dvd pirates would have far worse conditions than pedophiles.
Don't let it fool you. Serial pirates are the biggest enemy of mankind. We should strive together to make sure they get the penalty they deserve.
That depends, is the pedophile a high profile person or a creepy poor person?
One is running some nobodies over, the other making a rich person some pennies less rich.
Must set a precedent, y'know?
on paper
It's making them less rich only if you assume pirated copies would've been sales. That's generally not the case, and piracy can often increase sales by pirates recommending things to people who will actually buy.
Goes to show, he should have made a run for it and hit a bunch of people with his car. Then he'd get a reduced sentence.
People generally aren't sentenced to the maximum penalty for a crime, so it's not very useful to compare the maximum potential sentence for a charged crime versus the actual sentence received after conviction on another crime. The Indianapolis hit and run carried potential penalties of more than 15 years. This DVD guy will probably get less than 5.
Thankfully this monster is finally off the streets
National security priorities definitely in order.
My tax dollars at work‽
Honestly, yeah, he was enabling Russian Hackers.
Thankfully your banjo playing days are finite.
This isn't a "piracy is bad" comment, this guy in particular was feeding media specifically to a group that repackaged malware into it.
Do you have a source for that? This article does not say that at all. It simply says that the person in question ripped Spider-Man Far From Home, that movie specifically was available from a lot of different users and locations, also had some cases where it had dangerous malware packaged, and that could have come from a Russian torrenting site. Nothing links this person directly to that malware or Russians at all.
The article says
It could be that the article is misquoting people and displaying a Bias, but I wouldn't know.
Right, but that specifically is not linking Steven Hale. So your original assertion that he is selling/supporting Russian malware is not substantiated by this article.
Exactly. That will have to be proved in court, and just making something available for anyone to use as they please is not "working with Russian hackers." They would need to prove actual collusion to make the malware-ridden version more accessible.
Yes let's not go after the south African literally fomenting the rise of a fashist takovet. Let's go after the guy selling bootleg DVDs.
Just started to say I'm glad they're focusing on the important things. 🙄🤮
I'm okay with going after both. This guy was enabling a Russian Hacker network.
He shoulda just said he was training an ai model!
He didn't get arrested for theft. He got arrested for being part of a distribution network that empowered Russian hackers.
To be clear. Copying or downloading media is not illegal. Distribution is.
Downloading is absolutely illegal, it's just not really enforced because you need to prove criminal intent. You're still accessing copyrighted material without a license, which is a copyright violation.
Distribution has much higher penalties and is more likely to push people to buying (harder to find copies = potentially more legal sales), so that's where enforcement is focused.
If you can present the law that makes it illegal to download, please do so.
The laws of the USA make it illegal to distribute, but license violations are beef between you and a company subject to civil dispute at most (which is entirely uneconomic to pursue) AND technically you haven't violated the license, the distributor has.
In fact, Facebook downloaded millions of archived and pirated works recently but claim no wrongdoing because they didn't seed anything.
Here's the interpretation by the US copyright office in their FAQ:
The enumerated rights of copyright owners are detailed in Title 17, section 106, with exceptions (e.g. fair use) described through section 122. The relevant portion is:
My understanding is that the copyright office is using 1&3 in their interpretation. So my understanding is that Meta is violating copyright by downloading copies of copyrighted work if their use doesn't fall under the fair use claims.
Right, so the owners have their rights enshrined in laws to make copies, sales, and derivatives, but that doesn't mean people other than owners are breaking a law by downloading a copy that a third party made and distributed. In fact, that text alone doesn't make it illegal to make copies, derivatives, or distributions, that would instead be outlined in U.S Code Title 17 Chapter 5 Section 506 which says:
As with your quote from the FAQ, the entire section says:
Statutory Damages are civil. Risk of liability for downloads means it isn't certain. There are no criminal proceedings for downloading copyrighted media, it isn't illegal.
In fact, it's actually even more lenient than I had expected, you STILL don't qualify for criminal charges even if you cost the real copyright owner $999.99.
Section 506 is about penalties, it doesn't define what's legal or not. If your actions don't neatly fall under one category or another but you have violated the exclusive rights of the property owner, courts have a fair amount of discretion in interpreting the law to come up with a judgment.
That's why I linked the exclusive rights grant instead of the penalties, the penalties are based on the rights you violated, so it's a lot more terse than wading through the various penalties that have a bunch of conditions (if you're an org making >X, Y penalties apply, if you're an individual and damages...). If we were talking about what the penalties in a specific case are, then yeah, looking up penalties is instructive. But if we're merely deciding whether a law was violated, then it's a simple matter of identifying whether exclusive rights were violated.
Also, whether the case is tried in civil or criminal courts is irrelevant to legality, it's only relevant to the types of penalties that can be enforced.
Yes, and damages are only awarded if the plaintiff can demonstrate that you've violated the law. You can't be forced to pay damages if they can't prove a law was violated.
All this means is that most files distributed over P2P networks are illegally distributed, which means the risk of breaking the law is higher. If you're just downloading Linux ISOs (where distribution is allowed explicitly in the FOSS license), you're not breaking any laws, but if you're downloading "Linux ISOs," that risk is on you (works are automatically copyrighted).
It's still illegal regardless of the level of damages, it just may not be worth the court's time to enforce.
The main differences between civil and criminal law are the stakes and burden of proof. Civil law has much lower stakes (no jail time), and criminal law has a much higher standard of guilt (beyond a reasonable doubt). Both are predecated on proving a law was violated.
It's crazy how I can post the literal actual text of the law and a link to it and you can just ignore that and say it isn't what it is.
Glad my tax dollars aren't going to waste /s
Lol corporate enforcers paid by taxes
He really wasn't. The media he distributed came with Russian malware.
But I collect russian malware. I was expecting that release. Where else can I find that? It's gone now, and the collector's value has skyrocketed.
I'm sure some Tankies could provide it free of charge, ask around ML and Hexbear
They're going after Meta next for pirating terabytes of books to train their AI, right? Right??
Lol that's hilarious if not sad.
Do as I say. Not as I do.
Fails to mention he also was selling the discs online.
But they want to sentence him for 15 years for this, even though his actions likely saved lives during the height of COVID if the allegations are true; if they aren’t true, he harmed nobody because those 10 million people wouldn’t have seen the movies in theaters anyway.
what kinda 2009 headline is this?
police also confiscated 50 pairs of counterfit ray-ban sunglasses and 20 lbs of zippo lighters
Plot twist. It was 1 zippo lighter, but it was a comically large one. It just weighs 20 lbs.
At that point wouldn't it just be a really shitty flamethrower?
It could be a good one, you don't know the details.
Well, it could be a flamethrower wit ha novelty zippo style casing, but if it's simply an upscaled zippo it's going to lack the pressure feed mechanism a flamethrower has to cause the fuel to 'throw' out and instead would just be a fairly sizeable flame at the opening.
DVDs?? is this article from 2006?
Weirdly enough, DVDs are still by far the most popular physical format.
I still buy them, but I prefer when it's a dvd/blueray/3D (if available) combo pack.
Well, they're often cheaper and easier to rip. I ha e a bluray reader w/ Libredrive flashed, but not everyone has that.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this company that makes DVDs probably also makes Blu-Ray discs.
You can just say bluray, disc is implied
Yeah, it sounded weird when I had it like that, so I added the disc to the end. Turned out, it was only 4 characters, so not a big imposition.
The comments (and maybe the article too, I didn’t read to the bottom) are misinformation. This guy isn’t enabling Russian hacker groups. What happened is he ripped the BluRay and posted it online. Since it got a lot of hype Russian hackers decided to use that opportunity and ship a similar file ending in .exe instead of the usual Matroska format (.mkv) you see usually with ripped BluRays. If you were around torrent communities back then you know this to be false. These are your tax dollars at work, potentially jailing someone up to 15 years for ripping a BluRay.
How? Especially pre-release bluray?
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Hey, that's the combination to my luggage!
Hex?
They should demand thorough answers from this vigilante and put them on YouTube so all the world understands not to do this!
No, i mean, bluray DRM is partly bound to keys and the player. Even blurays from 2020 often fail with libbluray and a newish player. I see no way to rip a pre-release bluray.
DVD is a bit more tame with only CSS and no BD+ VM on the drive.
For Details, look here.
MakeMKV? I don't understand.
With libredrive flashed on your player. Let the player decrypt for you, and then copy the decrypted stream, no need to break any encryption...
I wish it wasn't so ungodly difficult to flash a drive in Linux. Proper documentation would be nice too. I do have a flashed drive however.
I’ve never ripped BluRays but from what I’ve been told by someone who is apart of a P2P release group the jist is there’s an exploit in Intel SGX that made BluRay protection obsolete and the tools to crack BRs are practically publicly available if you search around for a bit. The funny thing is newer CPUs/mobos don’t support Intel SGX, which is one way to stop it.
How does a video file contain malware. Or are people running exe files to watch a video?
Some players might have vulnerabilities that people exploit; but honestly it's very rare, especially with most people auto updating their programs.
Most of the time it is indeed "download spider man no virus no survey 2023 free download.exe"
If they're being shared as disk images, basically every Blu-Ray has an embedded Java program, also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BD-J
https://lemm.ee/post/43529674
tldr: people using Windows can get duped into running what is basically a Powershell / Shortcut to pwn themselves
I cock blocked them with Qbit even though I don't use Windows
https://lemdro.id/post/15143286
Truth.
The video itself is a set of instructions, and when a video player interprets those instructions there is a window of opportunity.
Thankfully, no crime was committed
Good to see them going after the real criminals…. Back in 2002.
🎶 there goes my hero 🎶
Watch him as he goes.
How "Les Misérables" of them. Jean Valjean got 19 years for stealing bread. 15 years is light in comparison.
I knew they were going to start cracking down on piracy. They'll use it as an excuse to make vpns illegal.
Shhhhh, don't give them ideas!
DVD?
Better hope I'm not on the jury.