Diplomacy dies on live TV as Trump and Vance gang up to bully Ukraine leader
US president said his horrific blow-up would make ‘great television’ – the White House has never seen anything like it
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Full transcript: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-zelenskyy-meeting-transcript
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I've never seen anything quite as pathetic as how Trump behaved, thinking he's in fucking TV show again. Get fucked orange monkey.
The Apprentice: POTUS Edition, but no one laughs, cause is not a reality show.
Art of The Deal /s
I heard this multiple times from conservative radio/television. The guy is an absolute embarrassment and security risk to the world. Vance has actually proven to somehow be even dumber than the average doornail as well. He heard Zelensky say something of substance and immediately thought to himself, Trump can't respond to this without fucking it up, let me cut him off and just declare him offensive for accepting our invite to discuss what needs to happen.
Vance isn’t dumb. He’s very smart. He chooses to be this way for his own gain which makes him EVIL.
Is screwing over the working class very smart? It'll end with his kids being fatherless. I'd call it dumb. Granted it will be some time before that happens. But his grandkids will read about how terrible he was
He's been doing well financially by doing exactly that. These people just look at what's good for their immediate family, not society as a whole.
He's doing so well financially well that his wife who thinks he's a hobbit still picks out his pants?
If he was broke she wouldn't be his wife any more, it's not like he's got anything else on offer.
Nailed it, haha
I haven't watched nor read anything else about this so I don't have a full understanding of the meeting. Having said that, I don't what anyone would expect a world leader to do. He either fights off an invasion without help or sells his nation off. This is a lose lose situation. The USA is losing its image of a country that supports cooperation to an economic invader picking on someone while their down.
Lost. It’s gone.
And it’s going to take a long time to get any positive view about the US from anywhere, including the citizens. Any country where every four years you can just completely about face any contract, agreement, accord, convention, treaty, whatever, who would want to deal with that country? You could sign something, be perfect partners and then 4 years later get tariffed and humiliated on a whim just because a of a small percentage of votes (or lack of votes).
Ask our indigenous about USA reneging on treaties.
Or even the former slaves, they're still waiting on their 40 acres and a mule.
Brother, I heard that too my core!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_kTNIYsFnQ You can form your own opinion from this clip.
I thank all the people who actually look at Trump and listen to his speeches.
I can't handle it. It's like listening to a baboon playing bagpipes
My conclusion is that I want to break a few particularly orange sausage fingers.
It took me this long to realize that trump wears that same arrangement of suit colors everywhere because it's red, white, and blue 🤦♀️ JD Vance has started exclusively wearing it too I think
White or red suits look bad, but blue is democrat, so they make it not blue by making it a power suit . The red and blue power suit is pretty traditional though .
Democracy must be a cat for how many times it has died in the last decade