White House official threatens to redraw Canadian border
A top White House official has threatened to redraw the Canadian border amid Donald Trump’s ambition to turn the country in America’s “51st state”.
Peter Navarro, one of Donald Trump’s closest advisers, is pushing US negotiators to discuss reworking the border with their Canadian counterparts, The Telegraph can reveal.
“Navarro recommended revising the Canada-US border, which is just crazy and dangerous,” a source close to negotiations told The Telegraph.
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This is actually fucking ridiculous
"ridiculous" is a rather generous way to express the absolute lunatic raving idiocy involved in even considering consolidating a sovereign nation (Canada, FFS??) into the fantastical ravings of a Napoleonic miserable little toddler's colonialist dreams in search of some lasting legacy other than first felonious criminal that made it to occupant of the oval office.
🤦♀️ 🖕 🖕
Raise your hand if you believe this was all started because Putin told Trump it was a good idea.
Canada got serious about pursuing the money behind the freedom convoy and designated a bunch of those groups as domestic terrorists. By law Canada can go after everyone who funded them which, unsurprisingly, is largely Russia via right wing organizations in the US.
Trump probably got a letter from the "Canadian bureau of land management" (Putin) which pleaded with him to take Canada in
If there is an American/Canadian war, I'll sign up on the side of the Canadians. - An American
This is why I don't think it will ever happen.
US Miliary personnel have worked hand in hand with the Canadians half a century doing everything from joint ops to sharing bases. I think a lot of them would simply refuse to invade Canada without congress first declaring an official war, and congress wouldn't do that because it would be horrifically unpopular with the US populace.
Congress is majority R, I wouldn't put it past them.
FUCK YOU
Sorry America, but you’ve gone Anakin Skywalker. You are now the bad guys.
Only just now!?
Well, maybe America was always the bad guy, but had (mostly) good people in control of checks and balances. Like, it was always Anakin, but had Obiwan keeping on eye on things.
But now Obiwan is dead and America is in the tower chopping up kids.
America is Palpatine.
It just revealed that it was the sith lord all along.
Yeaaaaah, a lot of us hate ot here, it isn't like 35% of us that are the douchebags.
What in the actual fuck?
What are they (I doubt he's smart enough to pull all of this off on his own) doing while we're all aghast at this stupidity?
Russia.
When a slight-of-hand trick is in progress, be sure to watch what the other hand is doing.
ThiscommentislicensedunderCCBY-NC-SA4.0My guess is that Medicaid cuts are the big one. Cutting Medicaid ain't popular. It would probably be very much undesirable for Trump and more-generally the GOP if that were the major topic of discussion on social media.
Canada is running down the funding sources behind the freedom convoy. A bunch of involved domestic groups have been officially labelled domestic terrorists meaning everyone involved in funding them is on the hook. A whole bunch of that money was laundered through far right wing supporters in the US.
I mean, I’m cool with redrawing the Canadian border… as long as we add the West Coast to Canada.
CA here, I'd like to be able to afford healthcare thanks. Our GDP would help Canada tremendously, it's a fair trade.
That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works
This is, actually, how it works. See: every other border dispute.
Can't arbitrarily redraw an international border without negotiation
The United Nations Charter prohibits the annexation of a state's territory by another state through the use of force. Annexation is considered an act of aggression and a violation of international law
Funny thing about International Law. It only ever seems to apply when when someone has the will and the power to enforce it. Who has the power to enforce it if the US is the guilty party?
Sanctions
The US has a LOT of trading partners
Had
And yet it regularly happens with little consequence.
Bigger army diplomacy is a remarkably effective negotiation strategy.
From William Spaniel
The Madman Theory - The Scientific Art of Negotiating with a Possibly Irrational Opponent
With a sharpie.
I mean he could nuke the border, that's the other way to deal with hurricanes right?
OMG, I'm going to be too embarrassed to move to Canada.
If we put the revised boarder far enough south, you won't need to move
Now you're talking!
Make it so say we all.
Maybe south of Seattle? Lol.
The hamberders can not give this guy a heart attack fast enough.
So, what's the distraction for, Medicaid, social security, the slow march into a christofascist dicatorship? (Nah, they like that last one)
A class of children playing classroom-united-nations would be slammed by their teacher for doing this as "unrealistic".
You mind drawing it a bit south actually
Give Canada Point Roberts, WA and the Northwest Angle, MN.
In for all of Cascadia tbh
The Pacific States of America has a nice ring to it
Putting a bit of spin on it. Their plans were already in place before Trump came into office. This makes it seem like the US actually got a concession.
Also more fentanyl comes into Canada from the USA than out... That’s not even mentioning the guns
Yeah but some Canadian now has a fancy title of "Fentanyl Czar"... So it's totally different
Peter Navarro is not a serious person. He’s a fucking moron and he always has been.
Wasn't this a movie? Comedy, guys from super troopers, maybe....? It was a dispute over a single town, but you know what, I mean.
From the Peter Navarro story linked:
Are the freakonomics guys in the government yet?
Dubner and Leavitt are waaaay too qualified to be in this administration.
Settler Colonialism. It just works.
What’s the big deal? Borders aren’t real anyway
The big deal is the US increasingly setting the scene for open war, which would be a Bad Thing™️. Whether or not you believe in borders the people with tanks and nukes sure do
Maybe Canadians don’t want to be American? Maybe we’d prefer to stay a sovereign nation instead of joining the dumpster fire of a country to our south?
Man, even I don’t want to be American. But their imaginary lines make me one.
Yeah and we don’t want those imaginary lines to remove our free (at point of service for pedantics) healthcare and mostly sane politics
If we’re making up imaginary lines can you draw yours around me?