Shots Fired Into the Home of Oregon Insurance CEO
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Oh no! Anyway,
Yeah, kinda slow around here. Wishing for warmer weather, and Spring. I did plant some cilantro and broccoli in cold frames, just to keep myself amused. Anything fun up in your neighborhood?
Well, I’m in Oregon, so yes! See headline for details.
Police just released more footage of the alleged perpetrator.
So like a human-sized, human-shaped Bigfoot
Maybe almost human shaped, I'd say the arms are curiously long for a regular human and the torso is much bulkier than our's, but I am no expert on human or bigfoot anatomy.
It's actually just an averagely hairy Turkish man.
I can't believe that in 2025 people still believe in Bigfoot. That is so obviously just a Yeti in a gorilla suit.
Pfffft! That's obviously a wendigo having a bad hair day.
Bigfoot is just his last name. Larry Bigfoot. He plays cello.
Oh shit. That looks like me and I live in Oregon.
Brb, gotta go bury some stuff...
(Including myself)
I like to think that some version of this conversation took place:
"Chief, should we release this security footage to the press?"
"Why wouldn't we?"
"Well, it looks like bigfoot. Like a bigfoot scam video."
"It sure does. But if we don't release it, they'll say we're suppressing it."
"As long as you are prepared for the jokes and memes, Sir."
This is ABHORRENT! PLEASE only Shoot up Children in School INSTEAD of Rich People who Kill MILLIONS each year!
It's just common sense. You fire into the home of a CEO working in a corrupt industry and you kill what, like five people? Maybe more?
Shooting up a school can have a way higher body count. It's a no-brainer.
Line must go up! That's what I learned from shareholders. But what line, you ask? Any line. Shareholders don't care what the line shows, as long as it goes up. Can't have less children killed in school shooting than last year, that's just bad business.
In all morbid honesty, that is bad business to many people. There's people getting rich selling security to schools. If the shootings stop then their income stops. That also, in a fake made up way, contributes to GDP, so "The Economy" also gets hurt.
Put your hands together.
You gotta shoot up the children of the CEO's. Make them hurt like every family of someone who has died because they were denied care. Make being a healthcare CEO a pariah. Make them afraid not only for their own lives, but for the lives of everyone around them. Make associating with them as risky as riding shotgun with a supremely drunken manic-depressive in a Swastikar on the autobahn at midnight in the dead of winter.
Make being a healthcare CEO the most dangerous job on the planet, and being friends/family with them only slightly less risky.
children of the CEOs*
The CEO of a state-chartered not-for-profit workers comp company kills millions of people each year?
Wowee!
This isn't even a good target for the outrage....
I get Luiging some healthcare insurance. But a state ran nonprofit for workers comp access with a CEO who makes 2x the salary of a mid level Netflix dev isn't exactly the big bad guy here.
I'm all for it, but can we choose more wisely?
Yeah, I've got some tips..
One, don't be a moron and send threatening emails before the job is done, that just puts people on alert and makes it more likely you get caught, especially considering traceability of email.
Two, don't fire blindly into a house you colossal moron, you can probably find a hiding spot good enough to wait until your target comes outside so you can get a clear shot.
Three, don't pull out the gun until you've got a confirmed target, and don't pull the trigger unless you're goddamn sure you got a killing shot, on the right target. Remember one of the things everyone likes about Luigi is that he was successful, and the other thing everyone likes is he didn't hurt anyone.
And four, if successful, once you get out of the immediate area, make sure not to be carrying around any goddamn incriminating evidence.
furiously nodding and taking notes
Luigi went from epic mastermind assassin to getting busted in a shitty fast food place with tons of incriminating evidence on his person. This bullshit needs a "epstein didn't kill himself" level meme
I mean yeah, I’ve been saying he was a patsy since the day he was arrested. The dude manages to evade capture for an entire week, then gets caught with a written manifesto and the entire (easily disassembled and broken into pieces to be scattered where cops will never find the entire thing) ghost gun fully intact? The entire thing smells like “accidentally” disabled body cams and planted evidence.
He also sprinkled some crack on top of his own head, so if the other stuff didnt get him, that crack is pretty damning.
/s
Yeah, especially the ghost gun thing. The point of having that is to get rid of it when you're done and it can't be traced. Why go through the effort of getting a ghost gun if you're going to keep it? It doesn't make sense.
I've been thinking this too
It's possible but it just doesn't jive with everything else he did
Are you taking notes on a goddamn criminal conspiracy!?
Also, if you seriously need notes like that, don't bother, you're gonna get caught anyway, might as well save some paper.
If the end goal is to thin the herd, yeah, all those points matter.
If the goal is to terrify the CEOs into compliance or get them to take an early retirement package, threats and potshots will do fine.
Still should consider not using email, though.
The next CEO will probably be worse, unfortunately. Almost like medical profiteering draws in some of society's worst people with a penchant for hoarding wealth.
... else?
Also, while the state and federal government claim otherwise, they carry the burden of proof and Luigi Mangione currently claims innocence. So, unless you are also accusing him, you should add some qualifier to "[Luigi] was successful".
This presumes I would consider the creature that was killed as 'someone'.
And sure, legally he has to claim that. But unless all the evidence they found on him was planted, which I think is a bit too much of a stretch (not because I don't think they would do it, but because I think it would be too likely to come out that it was planted), then in any situation where my comments do not cause legal jeopardy I don't have an issue talking about him doing it as though it were fact.
Luigi is allegedly a national hero
This, especially the first point. When 9/11/2001 happened, the world had no clue it was coming. It was planned and then executed. There were no threats, no messages; bin-Laden didn't release a statement until after the attacks were carried out. They just did it, they didn't talk about doing it.
IIRC, the US knew it was coming but ignored the Intel.
The reality is that Lugi was one in a billion: smart enough to plan and execute something like this, but also had the motivation (due to health problems and personal reasons) to actually do it.
Most people who grab a gun to solve problems are unfortunately just lunatics, we just got lucky with Luigi.
If he's one in a billion, well then we're owed 7 more Luigis
Considering there are like 340 million people living in the US, it's quite unlikely for another to emerge at those odds, especially since the insurance Execs went on higher alert after the first incident
If that's all it takes he's one in a hundred thousand
Funny how they stop being "stray" bullets when they enter the homes of the rich.
These were definitely stray bullets - they missed.
$600k/y is not "the rich". That's on the upper end of American middle class in 2025 if you consider the same quality of living as the same upper end 30 years ago.
The folks making $5, $10, $50 million/y are the ones we should be focusing on.
Not the CEO of a state ran, nonprofit, critical insurance agency who makes ~2x as much as a mid level software engineer at Netflix.
I don't care if he only makes tree fiddy an hour. If he makes it from hurting people, he needs to be Luigi'd.
It's literally a state funded way to get those who are in need for critical insurance, insured....
Aye as long as it's aiming at folks that systematically benefit from hurting other's I'm pretty cool with it. It's just things equalizing a bit.
I've heard some pretty bad things about how that company was ran. Nonprofit or otherwise.
I saw the guy! He was tall, wearing all green, with a hat with an "L" on it.
Nothing about the photo in the article contradicts your description lol.
On an entirely unrelated note, check out this neat photo of some geodes:
On another unrelated note, look at my cat!!
this morning I gave her food AND water. Usually those happen on sperate days
Neat
My thoughts and prayers are with the shooter in this difficult time
The article mentioned that SAIF is a non profit health insurance company where the executives are reasonably paid and don't have massive security teams
Receiving approximately a million dollars a year is not reasonable at a non-profit.
How else can you pay people who are working at a non profit? Thank you's dont pay bills, but neither taking home half a million in the name of non-profit.
How much of that money goes to those executives and their "vacations" aka fundraising?
Oh, don't worry. They don't have to pay for those fund raising vacations out of pocket. It comes from the non-profit's budget.
Could just be an accident right? Theres so many guns in the US and also the cops shoot and miss all the time.
UK cautions its travelers to the US to avoid walking around alone at night, and almost every country warns travelers that the US is a more violence-prone place and full of firearms than they are used to.
You should read the article and maybe revise your comment.
I come to the comments section for someone to summarise the article for me
ChatGTFO
It’s a shame the CEO was okay.
Homies gotta put in more time at the range before attempting to file a claim directly with the CEO.
Why the fuck would I rat this man out?!
Doesn’t say anything about good or accurate tips.
Bad tip: I know who it was.
Good tip: Don't lead the target so much.
SAIF is a state run public corporation directed by a board appointed by the governor to operate a needed service for the benefit of the public. Its structure is similar to Amtrak. This is not a good target at all for anti for profit healthcare protest. (Even if the CEO is still paid too much)
Their CEO makes something like 3/4 of a million $ /year... Hardly a civil servant's salary.
Tell me you've never had to deal with SAIF without telling me you've never had to deal with SAIF. Nonprofit insurance companies are still insurance companies and they aren't your friend under any circumstances. The going advice in Oregon is to hire a lawyer as soon as you can when dealing with SAIF because they are set up to filter out anyone who won't fight as hard as they can for the benefits they've paid into.
God help you if you have a mental health claim, SAIF will tear into your life as deeply as they can to find a reason to not pay for a therapist. Those bloodsuckers wanted ALL of my medical records going back to childhood when I wanted to talk to a counselor after I saw my coworker get badly injured on the job and they told me it would take at least 6 months to accept or deny my claim, even though Oregon law says they only have 60 days to do it. Lawyers told me that even though I was right, Oregon workers comp is tilted so far away from the worker that it wasn't worth their time, since they only get paid if they make SAIF accept a claim they had previously denied.
Gotta admit I can't argue here, I only briefly had to deal with SAIF for a pretty minor on the job injury that did not result in any paid time loss and I barely had to think about it, just went to the doctor and didn't pay anything a few times. Easy to imagine that experience is not universal to more serious issues.
Well, the provided image of the suspect is going to be unhelpful to their investigation. I've seen less blurry shots of sasquatch. Why did they even bother releasing it?
Actually, now that I think on it maybe the shooter was some sort of cryptid...
I mean, what was the CEO wearing? Maybe they should think more about their own safety... there's common sense precautions that can be taken, like not being the CEO of an American for-profit healthcare company.
Oh no, don't make the entire corrupt insurance industry fear for their lives... that would be horrible...
I'll have you know, Bigfeet as they're called are quite prevalent in Oregon and Northern California. I think they'll have more luck checking the forests than to ask any one of us for help.
This reminds me of the time someone shot at their own home
Yep, these vibes:
(though in that case I could immediately tell you why I felt that way - in this case I'll admit I'm probably wrong, I can't justify the feeling)
Left is best!
Wait, is that house on fire?
His camper was (which I guess may have spread to his house). It was insurance fraud.
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/denis-molla-prison-fraud-faking-politically-motivated-attack-trump-flag/
I can't tell if they posted his income to say he is paid too much or too little... It's a weird thing to include, it didn't seem to fit the article at all.
Poor guy getting shot at and doesn't even make a million a year. Absolute tragedy.
They mention a yearly bonus of around $200k in addition to his $550k/yr salary, but he may very well receive additional bonuses for meeting sales quotas or god knows what else. Not to mention stock options, which are given to every executive as a kind of tax-free additional salary.
All that to say, I wouldn’t feel too bad for him.
Plenty of CEOs taking $1 salary and hundreds of millions in stocks. Salary is usually not a big component of total compensation at that level.
Do i really need to edit and add the /s?
People should learn sarcasm just does not work on the internet.
I guess i still work on the assumption anything over 200k a year is hyperbolic...idk
Despite being a "not for profit," it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.
The median salary for full-time workers in Oregon is $61,671.
SAIF's nonprofit status has no bearing on how they pay out. They still move to close claims as quickly as possible, they still use shill doctors who aren't good enough to practice as "independent" medical examiners to deny claims and they still sell people's claims to managed care organizations that are for-profit and make more money by denying care. Getting injured on the job and needing care as a result in Oregon is a bad time.
SAIF exists because Oregon law says it exists, and like many entities that exist entirely because of legislation it does the bare minimum of what the law says it does.
I had a thought recently that could maybe make health insurance a little more fair here in the US. If we required the people who approve or deny claims at health insurance agencies to carry malpractice insurance and allowed them to be sued for medical malpractice when their claim denial led to adverse health outcomes, we could (maybe) make them think twice about denying claims.
Obviously trying to help people isn't a functional incentive for them, but maybe not getting sued would work.
My inner grammar nazi forces me to comment: It's himself, herself or themselves.
Is it possible this was just a car back firing? We're all keyed up these days, too much stress. And those ICE cars are pretty jankety.
It says it wasn't the sound that alerted them, and there was minor property damage. Guessing they only realised after they found bullets.
I was not being serious, in any sense of the term. Stay awesome!!
Looks like bigfoot to me
Hold it, Bob, We can see your wrist watch.
Thoughts and prayers to the bullets that were wasted
Hope his rates don't go up libing in such a poor community and all
Sounds like a pretty small insurance company, servicing only 1 state. Anybody know anything about them?
Workers comp insurance, not for profit.
They aren't the type to deny coverage of a patient, because if it's related to an accident or injury that happened on the job, they're the ones who are going to look into it. And probably increase the employers fees, and probably sue them for not providing adequate training or safety gear and signing a contract with them.
It's not the same as healthcare. It's more liability insurance. I'd bet this isn't over being denied coverage, but something else entirely.
Not sure how I feel about this. The CEO doesn't make the kind of compensation other CEOs of problem companies make. He does make a lot more than a lot of doctors that aren't top tier brain surgeons. So I'm sort of on the side of "well, maybe people who don't actually have a real job shouldn't get paid more than doctors."
Yeah, this doesn't seem as clean cut as the Mangione case... not sure what to think about it yet; I'd be curious to find out what the guys motives were.
It's Lake O. I can't say that it was targeted, but you can't throw a rock without hitting a rich asshole in that part of town.
RUN BIGFOOT RUN!
Fingers crossed
Looks like he was defending himself from a ghost. Nothing to see here.
Reddit must Be censoring this was never on the front page and it should have been
Oh no. Anyway...
It's a workers comp non profit. Isn't that typically cookie cutter claims rubber stamped?
Only if the company doesn’t contest it. It’s possible someone was injured on the job but the company didn’t want their insurance rates to go up, so they argued against it.
Camera footage looks like Bigfoot.
TBTP Raised the stakes, charging Luigi with terrorism.. Don't think they won't charge this person if caught with the same thing.
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