Luigi Mangione accepts $300K in donations for legal defense in murder case
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Woah woah woah, slow it down, we don't know if it was murder yet. For all we know it was self defence.
Or someone different.
Exactly. The media—and people as a whole—need to stop automatically assuming he's the killer. Even those who support him are still acting like he's the one who did it. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Agreed. The shooter was smart enough to ditch the backpack. Why wouldn’t the gun be in it?
Wait a minute… if it was, then the cops would have it, but if they told everyone it was in the backpack they wouldn’t have it to plant on some sap. But the cops would never mishandle evidence, would they? 🤔
Right like why would he still have the ghost gun a week later.... That makes no sense
What?
Ignore me; I misinterpreted your comment
Oh I was very lost haha
Even if he did do it, it looked like a clear cut case of self defense. Brian was coming right for his throat.
But also, there wasn't a shooter. If you watch the video, Brian trips and falls on his own gun, shooting himself in the back 3 times
I saw a man heroically trying to divert the trajectory of the gun barrel. Pulling it back multiple times.
I'm not sure what your point is. That's why there's a trial. A murder trial. To decide if he's guilty. Nothing in the story claims otherwise. In fact, they go out of their way to point out that he has only been accused, not convicted.
But it looks like he's not innocent until proven guilty like other people have been in the past.
People generally don't have time to whittle words about their attackers profession onto bullet casings in a shootout, and fabricating untraceable firearms generally isn't something rich people do for self defence.
That's merely your understanding of self defence.
Other people like those in the jury may have a different understanding - and their understanding is more important here.
Lmao
Have fun in fairyland
I didn't predict how it'd end, just what counts.
Have fun in defeatistland.
Don't let these fools crush your dreams of world where regular jackoffs like you and me watch out for each other. I got your back on this one fam
I won't, but it's always good knowing we're not alone and on the right side.
Thank you! I've got yours!
Innocent until proven guilty!
Defeat? Whats to be defeatist about? Luigi didn't improve anything for anyone and him walking free or going to prison is a net zero result for society.
Yes but no matter how obvious you think guilt is, eveyone has to go through a trial. Cops aren’t the judges or executioners.
Luigi's trial is this month, Cops didn't execute him lmao
Yes, but who has the time to do that when they're playing Battletech at the same time as the murder? Which he totally was with me at that exact moment.
It's highly illegal. There is a massive supply of firearms from large manufacturers, the only reason to make your own as a rich man is because you're bored AF or you plan to murder somebody.
I mean its basically the firearms equivalent of building your own retro-console from spare parts. Janky and underpowered compared to what's on the market from big manufacturers, but much of the point is in the building.
Jury nullification would send a very powerful message .
Also the law doesn't matter anymore anyway, so nobody should vote to convict because they're concerned about the rule of law.
Whats the message?
Maybe that sometimes roping in illegitimate behaviour requires illegal measures, if legal measures aren't working?
What message did you receive?
How much longer until the roping in begins?
He didn't really remove any wealth, though. If anything wealth concentration increased because there is 1 less wealthy but the wealth remains. That's like thinking the ending of Squid Game season 1 was happy.
Oh well Luigi definitely didn't dent that concept. That's basic human nature, it's instinctual.
No amount of random homicide can fix that.
Maybe now you can finally read some of it.
Delay, deny? Depose.
Delay, Dissent, Depose?
Alright but as far as actionable philosophy what does that do for you?
I'm sure not going to delay or deny anybody!
You already weren't going to do that.
For all you know I'm an insurance mogul!
Either that or the message was directed at someone who isn't me.
Lmao
THERE HE IS! GET HIM!
look, im not a fan of Luigi. im a fan of justice. and i aint seen shit in that video where the CEO falls over
Jury being shown the footage
https://c.tenor.com/unFf-IWvWuEAAAAC/tenor.gif
I never noticed how robotic those head turns are.
I think that gif has been sped up too
Hers is meant to be from pure shock, but yeah his is pretty obvious in context.
Where is this scene from?
Westworld
So if that doesn’t send a message, maybe another CEO to spell it out?
Every Luigi needs a Mario.
I'm just waiting for someone to decide that "Mario Party" is a good codeword for "conspiracy to murder the wealthy." After all, it's a group activity where someone plays Luigi.
If that happens there's gonna be a lot more children's parties ruined by S.W.A.T.!
Luigi Mangione? I haven't heard that name since he saved my life, here in North Carolina, same day as that United Healthcare guy keeled over from a heart attack
I heard the united healthcare guy died of spinal trauma but it may have been pre-existing condition
If so, it probably wasn’t covered by UHC.
That’s not gonna go far
Was gonna say this. Its not the money its the fame and if they pull it off they will literally be legends.
I would disagree. If they fail they will have the basic fame and a noteworthy trivia around the thing but legendary? Thats gonna require a win.
Enough money that it's a legitimate job on its own really helps. 300k is a reasonable number for that.
Keep in mind that is not the take home pay of an attorney but will need to be used for various expenses which pile up with court cases including hiring people to do various aspects of the work on something this big. Its very possible that Karen Friedman Agnifilo may end up doing it pro bono which if the possible pay is low enough may even be preferable to do financially for her.
Yeah, it might be low, but it's not high.
Anyone know if Johnny Cochrane is still working?
It's a shame he even needs the money since it's so obvious he's innocent.
He was chilling with me, hanging by the sea, in a country with no extradition treaty.
I'm sparticus!
Obviously! He was hanging out with me we were exploring this spooky house.
Innocence is insufficient in our society
I don't think 300 million would even be enough. They want to make an example of him.
They're not self aware enough to realize they're going to make a martyr out of him
How do you figure? The US has handled a lot of notorious cases, and most of them get quietly forgotten in prison.
How many of them were a rich white dude? That's the difference.
Ahem....I would like to add that he's hot too...
It could have gone far towards doing some actual good, instead of donated to an ivy league kid's murder defence fund.
Hopefully he's got a cousin named Vinny.
What's a yoot?
Luigi looks like he's about to drop the most 🔥 rap album of 2025 in that photo.
Eric Adams was flexing his bootlicking muscle.
I'm surprised they kept this guy alive. Maybe they figured out how obvious epstein looked and didn't risk it with this guy
Epstein had blackmail, and as such was still a danger to the rich, even in jail. On the other hand, Luigi was just some guy with a gun who got lucky, if they can lock him up for the rest of his life, he doesn't pose any danger.
*Allegedly
Didn't see any bullets in that video. The CEO probably just tripped over something on the ground and fell over.
He’s already on a path to martyrdom.
They kill him, 100 more will take his place.
Luigi hasn't harmed any currently alive rich people, when he killed one another took their place.
Epstein was a threat to Trump and a UK Prince, among others.
Better to keep him alive as an example to poors who have any ideas about attacking their ruling class masters.
They've already ruined one woman's life in Florida as example for daring to invoke Luigi on a phone conversation with her "healthcare provider" who was in the midst of denying her coverage.
Yes. The whole thing with Luigi was very clarifying in blatantly showing that there is indeed a ruling class that controls the media and pushes a culture war to keep up from focusing on the class war. It's not a crazy conspiracy theory. Then, just in case the message wasn't clear enough, the three richest oligarchs lined up behind Trump at his coronation. Any denial of that reality is willful ignorance and/or copium at this point.
I am so sick of people focusing on identity politics instead of the wealth inequality that is far more important. I am starting to despise identity politics on both the right and the left. Bernie Sanders was 100% correct when he said Identity politics is a recipe for losing elections and it is the main weakness of Dems.
He didn't do anything wrong! The CEO just became permanently neutral to all future endeavors.
Free Luigi, DDD
Maybe he can plead guilty and have zero jail time, like Steve.
Good luck with that. Unless they legalize murder he's pretty much fucked.
Look up Gary Plauché. Dude put a bullet at close range into the temple of a guy being escorted by police, got a suspended sentence. But we can dream
Plauché didn't kill a rich person.
This guy is going to spend decades in prison unless he starts running for president.
People are advertising jury nullification, but that won't clear him for the same reason that a McDonald's employee would tell the cops where to find him.
I don't really understand lemmy's derision for this opinion.
It's the obvious outcome. Luigi might be a hero but he's going to jail.
Innocent until proven guilty.
"well akshually" comments are poorly received everywhere.
I think the random spike in interaction specifically to downvote opinions, counter to wannabe revolutionary fuel, are suspicious af.
TBH these luigi posts might just be a bunch of Tankies trying to convince us to start violence in the streets.
Luigi has not had, will never have, any impact on that system because instead of actually trying to change that system he threw his life, and his ivy league rich boy education, away over petty emotions.
But people, probably Tankies tbh, are cheering for more people to waste more lives and bullets and have no real impact.
He already has. Heath insurance executives have all scrambled to take down their information from web sites. Because everybody now knows that this is a shameful job to have rather than a job to brag about.
Wow! Such a HUGE win for the downtrodden and poor that are unable to afford basic medicine medical procedures!
I’m sure they’ll be overjoyed to see that heath insurance executives have taken down their names from the parts of their websites that no one cares about or visits. This is exactly what was needed to fix the broken system!
#winning.
Whether someone approves of this or not, the result of CEO's being more afraid to go to extreme measures to screw the public is something that is a good thing.
Okay, so Luigi's legacy is making health insurance CEOs safer in public?
Nope. It is making health insurance CEOs more afraid to screw the public.
We have a 40-hour work week because unions literally fought for it. I'd guess most people don't want more violence but working through the system was pretty impossible even before fascists took complete control last month.
After a peaceful protest and hardlines negotions between GM and the United Auto Workers in 1937, legislators passed the Fair Labor Standards Act in 1938. Many accredit the achievment to labor secretary Francis Perkins.
Guess what? None of that shit that Luigi pulled will ever have any such impact, if anything it will likely turn people away from movements that idolize him.
You don't think the peaceful protests were backed by the threat of union violence that had been regular up until the New Deal?
The media tried so hard to make people hate Luigi in December and it didn't work because everyone knows insurance companies murder for profit. Voting hasn't helped, the media is owned by oligarchs, most social media is too, and if you protest you either get ignored or beaten up by the cops.
It's not my first choice of action even now, but probably-Luigi killed a guy who was otherwise untouchable and the oligarchs flipped their shit. Abraham Lincoln's death gimped Reconstruction, MLK's death hurt the civil rights movement (and spurred nationwide riots causing passage of another civil rights act), Panthers leadership hurt their organization too.
Nothing will ever have that impact until Dems win and win big again like in the 1930's.
They first need to prove he's the murderer
There could be a legitimate conspiracy, for sure, but the Dems aren't manufacturing this hell. The Dems wanted to tax the rich and socialize healthcare, we've just never believed them enough to give them the power.
Biden did expand Medicaid and removed Medical Debt from credit history, and it's a core DNC platform because they attempted it when we gave them 58 senate seats but the Independents didn't fall in line so we don't have it.
It takes 60 votes.
Lol ok theres no conversing with you if you just start spouting lies
Likely yes, but everyone has a right to a trial by a jury of their peers and, who knows?
Political discourse is really poor in this country and they need all 12 to convict.