Spyke
cm0002reply
lemmy.world

.ml Tankie: "ThATs RaCiSt even though it's not about Chinese people as a whole but Xi specifically and it started in China on Weibo by Chinese users before it got censored I mean totally not censored BUT BUT ITS STILL RACIST"

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saigotreply
lemmy.ca

Not to leave putin out, I just don't know any unfavourable comparisons.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

there's no universe in which a muskrat is a unfavorable comparison to that unfuckable troglodyte.

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but what about a muskrat with a hitler stash :D

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drathvedroreply
lemm.ee

Or a Crab, at least that's how he's known in Russia after he famously said that throughout his entire presidency he worked like slave (как раб) on a galley, which sounds exactly like crab (как краб)

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This is the kind of 2000s-era Internet silly gif on phpBB that we need more of.

(But not phpBB, let's leave that part alone.)

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Rumor has it that Putin banned posting the rainbow clown image. I'd use that one.

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DicJacobusreply
lemmy.world

plunge your country into war and ruin by invading a neighbor who's population is largely indistinguishable from you.

America couldn't stomach an occupation of a place on the other side of the world where the people were so foreign they might as well have been aliens. how will they stomach violence in the streets? whether from Insurgents from Canada, or their own people who rightfully decided to revolt against a terrorist regime.

Its hard to tell if this is blowhard theatre, or an actual threat. but make no mistake, attacking Canada means Civil War in America. its a red line.

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I wouldn't hold my hopes up. America is slipping into Autotitauanism and nobody's sees that as a reason to rise arms about it.

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lemm.ee

Now where's Margaret Thatcher saying "Ireland is United Kingdom"

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Reverting the actual status Will cause suffering. Who Will gonna do it? Me, you, they, them... who? Are we able to do it?

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lemm.ee

Whataboutism

But anyway, the official stance of even the US government has for decades been that Taiwan is part of China

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sh.itjust.works

Referring to him as "Winnie the Pooh" has never had anything to do with race, hence why no one uses it to refer to any other Chinese person.

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Xi tried to have it scrubbed and censored

Any evidence for that claim?

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There wouldn't have been if they didn't make such a big deal about it. It would have been a funny picture we all forgot about by now.

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Soupreply
lemmy.world

To you not see the tall/thin and shorter/rounder part? Are you being deliberately obtuse?

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Are you being deliberately obtuse?

They're a .ml Tankie, the answer to that is almost always "yes" lol

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A little bit of research indicates that this art was created for the meme, not the other way around.

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lemm.ee

The fact that Xi Streisand-ed it hell and back.

The same way calling Bibi a murderer isn't antisemitic calling Xi Winnie is not racist.

Government leaders are not a protected class/race, sorry.

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Xi Streisand-ed it hell and back

This doesn't make any sense.

The same way calling Bibi a murderer isn’t antisemitic

I've heard from quite a few ranking Democrats that calling Bibi a murder is antisemitic.

Government leaders are not a protected class/race, sorry.

Why do westerners insist in finding excuses to inject racist caricatures into a discussion about civil rights? I simply don't understand why shouting "Look at Netanyahu, the greedy hook-nosed jew holding a bag of gold!" benefits anyone in any way. It just seems like 4chan levels of racism-for-racism's-sake.

Are all liberals this desperate to spew slurs or is it just the terminally online ones?

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lemmy.ml

Racists don't bring up their own racism as racism, they try to paint it as other things.

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Axle182reply
lemmy.world

Mate, it's not an insult based on race, it's an insult based on merit. Take the L and admit that you had a bad take. It's not the end of the world.

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Cruxifuxreply
feddit.nl

Liberals accidentally outing themselves as racist is always ridiculous to me. People think XI JINGPANG looks like Winnie the Pooh. Your implication that EVERY Chinese person does, and the underlying implication you’ve made that ALL Chinese people look the same is hilariously offensive. You should maybe do some self reflection here mate.

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

Tankies aren't liberals, they're tankies and they are authoritarian, which they also definitely outed themselves as lmao

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Nah, the insistence that anything you don’t like is racist is a very intensely liberal quality to have, as is the accidentally bumbling it so hard that YOU end up behaving in a racist way.

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lemmy.ml

People think XI JINGPANG looks like Winnie the Pooh

I just compared, I don't see it. Do you have a good example?

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Cruxifuxreply
feddit.nl

What do you want me to show you exactly? You’re the one implying that all Chinese people look enough like Winnie the Pooh that to depict xi jingpang as such is racist. You want me to… give you an example of your point?

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

It's literally just the photo you replied to above. It's not that deep.

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lemmy.ml

I saw that after asking. So why would putting a character in a group of depictions fit this piece of art? It could make sense if Trump was a Cheeto, etc, but here it seems like an attempt to depict Xi as more cartoonish or outlandish than these western leaders. Weird. Almost like there's still a goal to depict him as less human. Huh.

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Almost like there's still a goal to depict him as less human

Weird, almost like he oversaw atrocities that makes people doubtful of his humanity or something....

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lemmy.world

Fuck. Here they come with their annoying facts. Don’t ya hate when that gets in the way your support for western expansionism?

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

ah yes, support for western expansionism, which is why the op comic doesn't criticize the US at all

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lemmy.world

Supporting a Democrat-led expansionist proxy war causes the criticism of Republican-led expansionism to fall flat. But that’s actually a pretty great representation of the fickle morality of liberals, so maybe I’m being too harsh.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

or, people who oppose these also opposed biden's expansionism and you're just strawmanning... I guess we'll never know.

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lemmy.world

This isn’t a strawman. The Putin reference in the comic is a straightforward support for Biden’s narrative to justify the proxy war.

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TheFririshreply
jlai.lu

So does that mean Ukraine belongs to Russia? What is Russia doing in Ukraine?

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Pretending its the 1600s, where maps get redrawn every time some aristocrat has an aneurism.

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nexguyreply
lemmy.world

There didn't need to be U.S. political justification for U.S. to support Ukraine. U.S. supported a democratic nation getting invaded by an authoritarian nation... as it should ALWAYS do. That's one of the things that makes it the shining beacon on the hill.

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The US overthrew their government in the 2014 Maidan Coup, and installed a far-right puppet regime to fight their proxy war.

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

Hmm yes "facts", please enlighten us on these "facts"

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cm0002reply
lemmy.world

Oh that's right, you're the "Ukraine is all Nazis and Russia was right to invade them" one?

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Faridreply
startrek.website

Yep, that's them. Had a long-ass thread with them where they wouldn't engage with any of my arguments about why Ukrainians aren't Nazis and instead tried to attack me directly. But can't tell for sure if they are a tankie, vatnik, or just a troll.

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No, I’m not. But I am certain “don’t give guns to Nazis” sounds exactly the same to you.

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This asylum is giving me spa vibes! They should have mud masks and cucumber slices to go with the straight jackets!

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Too many fellow Canadians forget that we share a contested maritime with Russia. All this make Canada American shit seems to be Trump and Putin trying to spit roast Canada and take the land.

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I'm liking what I'm hearing about this alternate universe... I want to go to there!

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Canada and Greenland, sure! Those are big boy US states....51st and 52nd states.

I'm thinking here, I'm calling Cuba! I call Cuba!

Nobody wants Cuba, so I'm Calling Cuba Jerry! Im calling it!

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Dismissing them as "crazy" isn't only ableist, it's also counterproductive - they are literally some of the most powerful men on the planet, and they will keep doing everything within their means to achieve those goals, and worse, unless they are opposed.

All in all, a shit take.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Mentally ill people are significantly more likely to be the victims of violence and abuse than the perpetrators of it, and it isn't mental illness that causes bigotry nor the exploitation and destruction of others for profit, it's privilege, entitlement, unimaginable wealth, and an entire systemic framework of capitalism, white supremacy and so on.

Stop scapegoating mental illness and furthering the stigma against an already marginalised group of people (or since you don't seem to care about that - giving dictators an out from accountability for their actions) because that's easier for you than to critically think about the well established structures and systems that allow and even encourage exploiting and harming others.

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Okay, but they ARE mentally ill and we can all plainly see it. Or at least, those of us who live with illness every day can plainly see it. Not only that, but the details of their pathologies are fucking relevant to all of our lives.

Mentally ill people are more likely to be the victims of violence and abuse, but the children of mentally ill people are tremendously more likely to experience violence, abuse, and neglect. And we are all the children of these fuckers right now. It's not an analogy, it's not a metaphor, and it not an ad hominem to draw attention to their pathologies. They genuinely need to be treated like dangerously disturbed people, because that is what they are.

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You can be powerful, competent, and crazy at the same time dude.

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Lem Jukesreply
lemm.ee

Wow, look at all those people completely missing the point…

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