Spyke

Awww, people are realizing a Nazi salute has consequences. Good for him!

Like all billionaires, Elon can (unfortunately) do whatever the fuck he wants and he will be okay. If your boss isn't fasscy then you're gonna get wrecked.

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sopuli.xyz

Ah yes. Elon's salute. The famous salute. Sounds OK to me if it's just a salute. Is there some simple way to describe this salute, to give the reader an idea if it's a good or a bad salute? I wonder if there would be a precise description for this salute, my dear journos?

Ah yes it's a nazi salute, of course. Easy to forget this adjective, since it's completely harmless and very mundane.

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overloadreply
sopuli.xyz

Oh yes, some people did recognise that the arm gesture in question may have been used by the Romans. Very neutral, we all know the Romans were around a long time ago, so..

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You're clearly trying to paint Elon in a bad light! Why did you leave out the footage of the Romans doing it huh?

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Obviously they're both doing a Roman Salute!

(Doesn't even need a /s because the Nazi salute is literally the so-called Roman Salute)

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From what I read it's a copy of what Mussolini thought was a Roman Salute, which was just something he got from a painting which was not at all Historically accurate, so it wasn't actually a salute that the Ancient Romans did.

(I suspect that in Mussolini's time some people born and living in the city of Rome did that salute, so strictly speaking it could be called a Roman Salute 😜)

However many call it a Roman Salute because that's what the Fascists thought it was, hence one could say that the Nazi Salute is also called a Roman Salute.

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People is going crazy with these b/w filter just to make variations of Elon's salute.

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Yeah, stop giving Elon a perpetual boner by calling this an "Elon" salute. Give credit where credit is due. Like you could say, I just took a giant Elon and everyone would indeed know what you meant, but you really should just say you took a big shit.

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I do find it crazy that pcgamer is reporting this, because the rest of the news media has just faceplanted on journalism. Reminds me of the Bush Admin, when Rolling Stone Magazine was one of the only reliable sources of news thanks to the extreme corruption within the major publications.

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

Until they shut it down, Buzzfeed News had become one of the better news organizations.

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Kinda crazy when they subvert expectations like that sometimes and actually prove themselves as a journalist.

You'd think a journalist for Teen Vogue or Cosmopolitan would be a hack and then all of a sudden they drop some in-depth, well written op-ed that makes you go "what? How?.."

Like I said elsewhere, I've actually got a couple copies of Rolling Stone from the opening weeks/months of the Iraq Invasion (their somewhere in my personal library) and the comparison to issues from before the war is staggering. Their journalists were actually really good and when they weren't being told to write a bunch of gobbledygook about a has-been one hit wonder, they were really capable journalists.

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Rolling Stone was probably the only source of actual journalism during the Iraq Invasion for a time.

Oh the memories.

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Over in the UK, this got picked up by the mainstream papers. Maybe he is more well known over here. He is the type to often gets headlines for his outrageous comments.

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Need more of this. More pointing out the consequences which exist for anyone but the super rich. More pointing out how we are gaslighted to believe "it's not a Nazi salute".

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lemmy.world

It is very funny that there are so many examples of people basically saying, "It wasn't a Nazi salute, watch I'll show you," and then immediately ruining their lives by doing it.

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Wizzardreply
lemm.ee

They were already one half lost if they believed it was innocent in the first place.

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I'm sure most of them just believed they could get away with it and then abruptly realized they did not have the same power and influence as the richest man on Earth.

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They don’t really believe it’s innocent, they just want it to be ok to hate.

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lemmy.world

This guy worships the "Turn the other cheek" guy, right?

The "love your neighbors" guy?

The "unconditional love" guy?

Just want to make sure I fully understand.

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Nah, at the "leadership" level Religion is just another kind of scam.

It's only the riff-raff who are genuinely believers in that stuff and even those pick and chose the parts of it they follow (you will notice that, for example, almost none of the "believers" in Abrahamic religions care about God's Commandment against Greed or the lesson of Jesus kicking out the Money Lenders from the Temple).

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"While we cannot say what was in Mr. Robinson's heart when he did this, his action appears to have been an attempt to curry favor with certain elements of the American political right by provoking its opposition," reads a statement posted by the Anglican Catholic Church on Wednesday. "Mr. Robinson had been warned that online trolling and other such actions (whether in service of the left or right) are incompatible with a priestly vocation and was told to desist. Clearly, he has not, and as such, his license in this Church has been revoked. He is no longer serving as a priest in the ACC."

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lemmy.world

Well, the great news is that this guy doesn't look anything like a god-damned villain...

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Maybe just an off day, could be that he just got up on the wrong side of the swastika shaped bed this morning...

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sh.itjust.works

If you asked me what Thunderf00t would look like if he became a priest instead of a scientist/youtuber this is what id imagine.

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adminreply
sh.itjust.works

Does anybody know why hes wearing a mic while speaking into another mic?

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Snapzreply
lemmy.world

Musk's department of government efficiency arranged the A/V for the event

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towerfulreply
programming.dev

Probably being filmed.
It's rare that filming will want the same feed as is going to a PA. Sometimes they have to due to logistics, but they will moan about it

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adminreply
sh.itjust.works

Maybe the PA vibe can be created on post with the source material.

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towerfulreply
programming.dev

If the live engineer is crappy and causes feedback or echo (like on the brink of feedback) that goes straight to records. There is no way to fix it in post (well, no decent way, and takes ages to dial in something mostly acceptable ).
If it's a "feel of being live" that's required in post, most lavs are omni so will pick up a bunch of atmo noise. It will likely feel live by virtue of being live. I imagine they have some mics on the camera as well for atmo.

Maybe the records aren't set up for a feed from the sound desk. Maybe the sound desk isn't able to provide a clean feed.
The lav mic is probably wireless, with the receiver direct into a camera. They don't have any gain-before-feedback physics to contend with, so they can gain it however they want.
And if they are doing any spots not in front of the mic on stage (or a mic through the sound desk), they will need a mic anyway. If they always use the same mic, then the sound will be consistent.

Better to have an independent feed.

But who cares, the guy is a piece of shit. Any videos he's gonna put out are not for the benefit of humanity

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who cares, the guy is a piece of shit. Any videos he's gonna put out are not for the benefit of humanity.

At least history books of the future will have plenty of material to work with.

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towerfulreply
programming.dev

Also, are you actually the admin of shitjustworks?
Or are you squatting a misleading username?

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towerfulreply
programming.dev

Yeh, I did. Just looking out.
It's odd to see an admin user name not doing admin actions.
Most mods/admins have a normal account and a different mod/admin account for when they have to put on their official hat.

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A very good reason, and a nice habit. Trust but verify

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Proverbs 26:18-19

Like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death,

Is the man who deceives his neighbor, And says, “I was only joking!”

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lemmy.zip

... Gamer Priest?

I am just imagining like a Christian BF42 server that bans you for swearing, but a lan party of such people, in a church.

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lemmy.world

It's hilarious to me to see something actually get a priest kicked out of the Catholic church.

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asterismreply
lemmy.ca

Wouldn’t “Anglican Catholic Church” mean he’s Catholic? (Genuine question!)

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The "Anglican Catholic Church" is actually not affiliated with either the holy see (the "actual" Roman Catholic Church) or the Anglican Church (as headed by the Archbishop Canterbury and the King of England).

He joined it because he didn't make the cut to become an actual Anglican Priest because of

concerns about Robinson's "libertarian anti-woke, anti-identity politics, Covid-sceptical" political views and his use of social media, particularly Twitter, to disseminate them."

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Can't speak for the actual Anglican church because I've never been to the UK. But the episcopalian church, which is the american spinoff of the Anglican church, is the most accepting church I'm aware of. They regularly put up signs with a rainbow flag that say "All Are Welcome"

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

Not according to the Catholic church. They're not Anglicans according to the Anglican church either.

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Like all Church schisms it's "we're the only ones who are right about how our god is supposed to be worshiped", so they don't feel bad about taking the names of Anglicans or Catholics because they think that those other groups are doing religion wrong, so who cares if it's confusing.

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Snowclonereply
lemmy.world

Anglican really just means a version of the Catholic church splintered off by Anglo-Saxons, and Catholic means for everyone, so all their church name really means is a Anglican tradition, or style church for everyone. Thera millions of sects out there that use very similar titles and terminology, it's not always misleading even if it's confusing or obscure language.

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Anglican really just means a version of the Catholic church splintered off by Anglo-Saxons

The proto-Anglicans stopped being Catholics when King Henry the 8th couldn't get the pope to annul his marriage, so he split the English church from the Catholic church. So, for 500 years, the Anglicans haven't been Catholics. And it has nothing to do with "Anglo-Saxons". Anglo-Saxons are a cultural group from the middle ages. The Church of England and Anglicanism comes from centuries later and applies to the country of England under the king Henry the 8th. The Church of England and/or Anglicanism doesn't date from the middle ages, it was effectively a political construction due to the king wanting a divorce and not to have to answer to the pope. But, the reasons behind the split don't really matter as much as the fact that the people following churches related to that split haven't recognized the authority of the pope for centuries, so they're not Catholics.

In this case, the name is really misleading because the Anglicans don't consider them to be Anglican, the Catholics definitely don't consider them to be Catholics, and you can't really merge the Anglican and Catholic faiths because they're so different.

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zzz711reply
sh.itjust.works

Angelican usually refers to the Church of England, a Protestant denomination.

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Weirdly, it means "universal". It's just used as a short for "Roman-Catholic". The orthodox church is officially the "Orthodox Catholic Church".

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Gotcha! I had no clue Anglican was a protestant denomination. TIL!

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lol! Basically it’s-

Nazi Sympathizer Does Nazi Salute. Watch It Now On X!

I’d say you can’t write shit like this… but here we are, reading an article about a Nazi that links to video of the repugnant act- hosted on a Nazi-run social media platform.

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The irony is, just by looking at him, this is exactly the type of person Hitler wanted to exterminate.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I mean church in the loosest sense of the word since it was literally only created in 1997 as an offshoot because they didn't like women becoming ordained.

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No, that's a church in every sense of the word. That is a normal thing for Christian Churches to do.

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Describes a lot of churches origins, many people wanted to move forward and a healthy chunk wanted to go backwards in response.

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lemmy.world

Anglican Catholic Church

The church part of the name isn't what really gets me. How can a schisim(from the episcopalians) of an offshoot(from the church of England) of a schisim(from the Catholic Church) proclaim itself katholikos (universal).

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angrystegoreply
lemmy.world

Meanings of words evolve. They're refering to the belief system rather than to the original meaning and ethymology. But when you know it does sound funny.

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Yeah it's just the Catholics, with their belief in universal authority of the Pope, actually still embody that original etymology. And if there's one group that gets hung up on the original meaning of words in other languages it's theologians. Well, at least non evangelical theologians. Evangelicals like to invent meaning and declare the king James bible divinely inspired so who knows what's going through their minds half the time.

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the fact that two mostly unrelated consequences are tied together with "and" in the title had me laughing

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lemmy.ca

I saw the video of this a little earlier. He smirked with the "My heart goes out to you" part. 🤢

I heard he almost wasn't confirmed in the church in the first place, but I didn't know about the gaming website editorial staff resigning. Wow.

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feddit.uk

He literally wasn't ordained by the Anglican Church because of his "anti woke" views. He joined a knock off church which wasn't desperately to be part of the catholic church (but, and I can't stress this enough, isn't at all). He's cosplaying being a vicar for clout while being a fucking worse bigot than two of the largest organised denominations.

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LostWonreply
lemmy.ca

Interesting. I only heard about him yesterday so I was going off reports I came across, all of which seem to treat him as having been an Anglican priest and one of which added he almost wasn't ordained, but later was. Are you from the area? I know it's certainly easy for one media outlet to make an error that is then echoed by almost every other one.

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I'm British - he regularly appeared on a wannabe Fox network "GB News" alongside a similarly "anti woke activist" Lawrence Fox (who is his own flavour of unseemly), was (is?) a spokesman for UKIP - the party which drove us to Brexit. I've taken an interest in him when I saw his dog collar and questioned his church membership, so I occasionally check in on him to piss myself off and generally increase my blood pressure.

I also used to be a practicing Christian so I'm very into denominational splitting and infighting - he studied theology, didn't get a job with the Church of English and was then ordained into the "Free Church of England", where he became a bishop. He's bounced around a few other denominations since; the Nordic Catholic Church, a Lutheran denomination, and now the Anglican Catholic Church.

Him being blocked from entering the Anglican Church of England (the real actual one which is linked to the royals) was reported in fairly mainstream news here. It seems like the church was actually pretty tight lipped on their reasoning for him not taking a position with them, and he's basically outed himself as too bigoted for the church by handing over to the press internal communication regarding him he secured through an effective FOI request.

He's an interesting chap.

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Seems what he did was join four different churches in succession according to his Wikipedia page. The last one people are now talking about (Anglican Catholic Church) was based in the US.

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How old is this photo? He definitely didn't have that hair in the actual clip. Why is this the shot being used instead of one from the actual day of?

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grrgylereply
slrpnk.net

It's 2025, some of the gamer priests are Nazis. Please try to keep up, it will only get wilder

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Yeah, the Nazi who's an Anglican Catholic priest runs a gamer website. Sure, it sounds like Mad Libs, but it's just 2025.

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That's one unusual looking fellow. Perhaps he could find a new job as a mad scientist of sorts?

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Isn't he like, part black, or of ethnic descent at least? Should be more aware of dog whistles like that damned Nazi salute. It ain't callin in the Border Collie's for dinner...

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Lodespawnreply
aussie.zone

Anglican and Catholic are two of the largest distinct and separate branches of Christianity. You can't just mash them together, it doesn't work like that.

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Lodespawnreply
aussie.zone

Well colour me corrected. This is the first time I've ever heard the Anglican church referred to as the Anglican Catholic church.

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Australia's Anglican church is the Anglican Church of Australia, which has 3.1 million members. The Anglican Catholic church is a very confused and tiny church with only 35k members.

The Anglican Catholics split from the American Episcopal church, which itself split from the Anglicans when the US split from England. After all, having the king as the head of your church doesn't make much sense if you just had a revolution to declare independence from that king.

So, it's pretty weird, the Anglican Catholics want to be connected to the Anglican church, after their church split from the Anglicans in the American Revolution, and to the Catholics who split from the Protestants in the 1500s. It's almost as confused as something like Jews for Jesus.

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Cortreply
lemmy.world

The church Henry the 8th started when the Pope wouldn't let him get divorced. It and Catholicism have traded places as the UKs official state religion a few times over the years, causing absolutely no problems whatsoever.

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Yeah the Anglican church is not the Catholic church, protestants and Catholics have been fighting about this for centuries.

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sh.itjust.works

Well, the way its going.. its turning into an anti-far left salute.

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

a nazi salute is pretty much anti-everyone, man.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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ahumanareply
sh.itjust.works

I see your emotional appeal aligns perfectly with the straw-man argument you're presenting.

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Did you get handed a list of words you are just supposed to use without definitions? It's like the cargo cult of inflammatory comments. A simulacrum of a response.

In other word.
Lame.

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