I always upvote people who alway upvote people who always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word. Although, this is my first time doing it I think.
I always upvote people who always upvote people who alway upvote people who always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word although they think this is their first time doing it. Although, this is my first time doing it I think.
You'll laugh but FreeCAD did this exact thing to me on Arch and even worse it did not only associate itself with 3D files, it associated itself with everything that did not have a default set.
Weird Video format? FreeCAD.
Text file with weird file extension? FreeCAD.
Binary File? FreeCAD!
If you think that is pointless, remember that whenever a program closed unexpectedly, Windows would offer to "find a solution online". I have never seen that shit work in my life
Yeah in XP that troubleshooter actually helped me with figuring out things like "dude you did not connect the device you're trying to find" or "yes there is no internet connecting due to this setting being wrong".
And then in some OS Version it suddenly completely useless.
Initially, with Win 7, it felt even better than XP, as it applied the fixes itself and also showed a log of the fixes it made.
Wonder why MS thought it would be a good idea to go in the opposite direction.
Look what they get in return? I totally off of it, now.
I recently discovered windows actually has a set of far more specific troubleshooters which actually provide useful information about a problem but you have to dig around in legacy settings to find them.
Windows can still be made into a tolerable usable OS, but it basically requires a minimum of 20 years of knowledge about where the legacy control panels, settings, and secret reg keys are hidden. Every new version obfuscates them even more and yet they are no closer to feature parity with the 'modern' control panels that barely work at all.
Microsoft had relatively interesting ideas concerning 3D and VR content, then proceeded to do an extremely mediocre execution, simultaneously dumbing everything down while also making it hard to use, and then proceeded to discontinue their software after almost never touching it again for seven years
I have a Reverb G2 (windows mixed reality headset), it is really a good headset and is still competitive with the Quest 3 in several areas for use on PC. The WMR software itself isn't that bad and I think if it had more care and attention put into it it could genuinely have been great. If they had better home options, user created homes, more customization and the ability to fix things in place so you don't accidentally move them, the ability to add (even just user created) minigames and dynamic objects that stay in the world, and (most importantly) the ability to actually invite other people into the space to play with you and launch into other games. They're Microsoft, they were large enough and early enough that I'm sure they could even have gotten game developers on board with some protocol that automatically brings people you're playing with into a multiplayer session of whatever game you start. I think they were onto something with their home system and could have fleshed the software out into something much better than even the modern competition. Of course it's all discontinued now, the latest version of Windows doesn't even support it, I plan to continue to use the old version until it stops getting security patches in 2026 and then switch to Linux where hopefully the open source people will finally fully support using controllers.
I was gifted a reverb g2 some years ago. It was ok, had some problems getting custom bindings to work in Skyrim VR that killed the game for me. I want the index next since it will have linux support and hopefully won't die like WMR did but I also want to wait for the next index, whatever upgraded headset they make next.
I remember so many examples of windows doing stuff like this.
Specifically the most annoying I ever ran in to was Microsoft office click to run, like, as far as I understood it, it was a background service to update Microsoft office, it always ran in the background and would routinely eat up system resources, not a ton but way more than something like that should have been. It kept ignoring my instruction to not start on system start up, and kept getting reinstalling when I resorted to just ripping it out.
Now why, you may be wondering would I want to get rid of a program meant to keep office up to date? BECAUSE, I didnโt use office, I didnโt have a license even, I had uninstalled it in fact, but for some reason click to run was still there like a weed. So many other annoyances with attempting to remove other programs I didnโt want or need but windows would just keep reinstalling.
โeDgE Is A cOrE pArT oF tHe Osโ
y tho
Anyways, thatโs why I replaced windows as the OS on my computer.
I wish I could share your optimism, but we're so deep in the M$ ecosystem they've got us by the balls. Given how conservative our industry is and that we've got about 80k people, I think our chances are slim.
I forgot it existed, because I stopped using the windows start menu after whatever Win 10 did to it. Been using Launchy or just adding it on my desktop.
I think when I got Win10 (?) on my then-new laptop it automatically assigned all kinds of file formats to open in Paint3D, so I opened it once, realized "this is not paint" and closed it never to be opened again.
I learned how to edit text pixel by pixel in paint 3d.
I had been skipping out on classes and while I was technically still passing my grades weren't high enough for something my family was doing so I just made a few minor edits. I don't even remember what it was for. Probably a ski trip or something.
They never found out lol.
I used my pixel level editing skills to get a few friends outta some things or into some things.
I'm one of the few people who liked paint 3d I guess.
Fucking Windows Store AppxPackages... they dont update right if you're using multiple users (like say, an admin account from tech support that signed in ONCE and never signed in again) and get computers dinged for vulnerabilities.
There's a 'package manager' on Windows called winget, except that it is not a package manager, but a program which downloads application installers and tries to run them in the background. It is also filled with annoying bugs, such as:
Some apps can't be updated, because they throw an error for one reason or another;
Some apps update to the same version that is installed, because the version of the installed app wasn't changed by the developer;
Some apps seem not to be listed at all, so they can't be updated through winget;
windows also occasionally has stokes like media player thinking for a solid 5s and deciding it's unable that file format (mp3), but then you close it and try again and a miracle! it opens
Funny you say that. I never touch media player because vlc exists but on my work pc I tried to play a video file someone sent me from their iPhone and it defaulted to media player which promptly demanded I pay 4$ for a codec. I just closed it and opened the video in vlc instead. I could understand not including codecs for some weird formats but it was a fucking iPhone video.
i use media player when i need to listen to 20 barely different background drone sounds to pick one from as it opens the fastest (apart from the times when it doesn't)
but yeah to open anything that is a """strange""" codec i use VLC too
Installed Windows 8.1. Ran some core updates. Updated drivers. Cleaned and debloated it a bit (it didn't have much). For some reason Windows Update installed Microsoft Edge version 84 and jumpscared me to make it the default browser.
they really wanted me to be an edge user no matter if it was outdated
I kinda liked the app. A while ago I had access to a machine with base image containing paint 3d. I used to play with it sometimes when I'm boared and connected to that computer. Needless to say I didn't do any 3d works in it though.
Edit: I didn't provision it so don't know if that was intentional or came with windows installation by default. These were some throwaway test machines so nobody cared.
Oh man, I remember the days, probably getting close to 20 years ago now, when I also had programs installing themselves into my computer that I didn't authorize myself. I thank the efforts of the Linux inventors, engineers, and the community, for making my life better ever since the switch.
I may switch to linux full time in the event that I get a new PC since it looks like it's starting to become better supported (that and I really want a steam deck). I legit have done some poweruser type shit before when I used the registry editor to disable copilot, so it would be right up my alley. if only that tumor of a feature weren't hard coded into win11
That's the Microsoft difference!โข
Microsoft: 'helping' whether you need it or not since 1998.
Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?
It's true, I always upvote people spreading the good word
I always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word
I always upvote people who always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word. Although, this is my first time doing it I think.
I always upvote people who alway upvote people who always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word. Although, this is my first time doing it I think.
I always upvote people who always upvote people who alway upvote people who always upvote people who always upvote people spreading the good word although they think this is their first time doing it. Although, this is my first time doing it I think.
Our Lord and Savior is RMS, who invented the concept of software freedom that Linus helps deliver.
Blessed be his word
The GNU Testament, as it were.
The holy Trinity of the father (RMS), the son (Linus), and the holy spirit of Tux
Shouldn't there be a mother somewhere in the holy trinity ?
The mother is Xenia
Furries rejoice
You'll laugh but FreeCAD did this exact thing to me on Arch and even worse it did not only associate itself with 3D files, it associated itself with everything that did not have a default set.
Weird Video format? FreeCAD.
Text file with weird file extension? FreeCAD.
Binary File? FreeCAD!
I thought people only ever run Neofetch on Arch.
Well I had my knee high socks in the wash that day....
I mean, FreeCAD is a bit of a step-headed red child.
That is true, but sadly the only CAD (besides the very limited Tinkercad) that works under Linux without costing a Kidney
Accurate. I was fussing with it earlier drawing up a cabinet.
If you think that is pointless, remember that whenever a program closed unexpectedly, Windows would offer to "find a solution online". I have never seen that shit work in my life
Windows troubleshooter has never fixed a single problem for me.
It can reset a network adapter but that the only time I've seen it do anything useful
Yeah but its usually faster just to reboot the machine instead of letting it dick around with itself.
Now with SSDs it is but back in the day it took approximately 3 businesses days for my gaming rig to boot up.
Never since after Win 7 fir me.
Yeah in XP that troubleshooter actually helped me with figuring out things like "dude you did not connect the device you're trying to find" or "yes there is no internet connecting due to this setting being wrong".
And then in some OS Version it suddenly completely useless.
Initially, with Win 7, it felt even better than XP, as it applied the fixes itself and also showed a log of the fixes it made. Wonder why MS thought it would be a good idea to go in the opposite direction.
Look what they get in return? I totally off of it, now.
They'll implement copilot into it soon. Don't worry.
It's been surprisingly decent for audio issues for me. Often the scan for audio devices kickstarts some devices back into the land of the living.
yeah, it seems to only work for those https://old.reddit.com/r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt/comments/hakc3t/in_25_years_of_life_this_is_the_first_time_i_have/ it wont let me post a screenshot.
I recently discovered windows actually has a set of far more specific troubleshooters which actually provide useful information about a problem but you have to dig around in legacy settings to find them.
Windows can still be made into a tolerable usable OS, but it basically requires a minimum of 20 years of knowledge about where the legacy control panels, settings, and secret reg keys are hidden. Every new version obfuscates them even more and yet they are no closer to feature parity with the 'modern' control panels that barely work at all.
Microsoft had relatively interesting ideas concerning 3D and VR content, then proceeded to do an extremely mediocre execution, simultaneously dumbing everything down while also making it hard to use, and then proceeded to discontinue their software after almost never touching it again for seven years
I have a Reverb G2 (windows mixed reality headset), it is really a good headset and is still competitive with the Quest 3 in several areas for use on PC. The WMR software itself isn't that bad and I think if it had more care and attention put into it it could genuinely have been great. If they had better home options, user created homes, more customization and the ability to fix things in place so you don't accidentally move them, the ability to add (even just user created) minigames and dynamic objects that stay in the world, and (most importantly) the ability to actually invite other people into the space to play with you and launch into other games. They're Microsoft, they were large enough and early enough that I'm sure they could even have gotten game developers on board with some protocol that automatically brings people you're playing with into a multiplayer session of whatever game you start. I think they were onto something with their home system and could have fleshed the software out into something much better than even the modern competition. Of course it's all discontinued now, the latest version of Windows doesn't even support it, I plan to continue to use the old version until it stops getting security patches in 2026 and then switch to Linux where hopefully the open source people will finally fully support using controllers.
I'm in the same boat, assholes trying to brick a $500 headset that is only 3 years old.
here are some pages I found from the last time I looked into this
https://catwithcode.moe/Blog/2023.11.30_VR_ON_LINUX/VR_ON_LINUX.html
https://www.youtube.com/@mateosss/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05H5a1t6HnE
Another good idea from Microsoft to be hated. What a stupid idea to remove it when it start to be interesting.
I was gifted a reverb g2 some years ago. It was ok, had some problems getting custom bindings to work in Skyrim VR that killed the game for me. I want the index next since it will have linux support and hopefully won't die like WMR did but I also want to wait for the next index, whatever upgraded headset they make next.
Yeah, I think you have to start Skyrim VR with openvr while in the steam VR home iirc or it won't work correctly
Using openxr would give better performance but then the bindings fall apart
And yea the index is currently pretty outdated imo, I would definitely wait
I remember so many examples of windows doing stuff like this.
Specifically the most annoying I ever ran in to was Microsoft office click to run, like, as far as I understood it, it was a background service to update Microsoft office, it always ran in the background and would routinely eat up system resources, not a ton but way more than something like that should have been. It kept ignoring my instruction to not start on system start up, and kept getting reinstalling when I resorted to just ripping it out.
Now why, you may be wondering would I want to get rid of a program meant to keep office up to date? BECAUSE, I didnโt use office, I didnโt have a license even, I had uninstalled it in fact, but for some reason click to run was still there like a weed. So many other annoyances with attempting to remove other programs I didnโt want or need but windows would just keep reinstalling.
โeDgE Is A cOrE pArT oF tHe Osโ y tho
Anyways, thatโs why I replaced windows as the OS on my computer.
Most of my Windows troubles went away with that.
(My work laptop runs Win11, no choice there unfortunately)
Companies will get there eventually. Everyone thought IBM machines were irreplaceable until they werenโt.
I wish I could share your optimism, but we're so deep in the M$ ecosystem they've got us by the balls. Given how conservative our industry is and that we've got about 80k people, I think our chances are slim.
Til it's discontinued. I think I opened that program exactly once
I forgot it existed, because I stopped using the windows start menu after whatever Win 10 did to it. Been using Launchy or just adding it on my desktop.
I just use the run dialog (win+r) or search(win key and typing)
I think when I got Win10 (?) on my then-new laptop it automatically assigned all kinds of file formats to open in Paint3D, so I opened it once, realized "this is not paint" and closed it never to be opened again.
I learned how to edit text pixel by pixel in paint 3d.
I had been skipping out on classes and while I was technically still passing my grades weren't high enough for something my family was doing so I just made a few minor edits. I don't even remember what it was for. Probably a ski trip or something.
They never found out lol.
I used my pixel level editing skills to get a few friends outta some things or into some things.
I'm one of the few people who liked paint 3d I guess.
Out of all the shit Microsoft does, Paint3D is actually ok. I remember it having a cool 3d pen tool.
Paint3d was actually cool.
I don't think anybody had any problems with Paint 3D, except the fact that it was forced on users, and it wasn't an alternative to MSPaint.
Fucking Windows Store AppxPackages... they dont update right if you're using multiple users (like say, an admin account from tech support that signed in ONCE and never signed in again) and get computers dinged for vulnerabilities.
I just download the packages from https://store.rg-adguard.net/ now.
I prefer flatpak honestly
I prefer nix package manager honestly
Same, I just wish it worked on windows.
There's a 'package manager' on Windows called
winget, except that it is not a package manager, but a program which downloads application installers and tries to run them in the background. It is also filled with annoying bugs, such as:winget;I use scoop, seems to break less.
Use wingetui or ninite or chocolatery it works fine with the admin account
Windows asked me what app I wanted to open a .jpeg with last week.... Just fucking pick one, it's a jpeg.
windows also occasionally has stokes like media player thinking for a solid 5s and deciding it's unable that file format (mp3), but then you close it and try again and a miracle! it opens
Funny you say that. I never touch media player because vlc exists but on my work pc I tried to play a video file someone sent me from their iPhone and it defaulted to media player which promptly demanded I pay 4$ for a codec. I just closed it and opened the video in vlc instead. I could understand not including codecs for some weird formats but it was a fucking iPhone video.
i use media player when i need to listen to 20 barely different background drone sounds to pick one from as it opens the fastest (apart from the times when it doesn't)
but yeah to open anything that is a """strange""" codec i use VLC too
Yup and iPhones use a patented codec (HEVC) by default. No care for compatibility.
Yeah I don't care about the reason. They're making more money than God. They can figure it out.
Right click the file, go to settings and change the default program for the file. That's a one time change.
It just doesn't need to be done in the first place though
Clearly it does, but it shouldnโt.
Unless it's the default browser, then you might have to do it every time Windows updates
Big-micro soft-brain move.
It's prob not even the first time they did it.
That's a hell of an act, what do you call it?
Microsoft!
Installed Windows 8.1. Ran some core updates. Updated drivers. Cleaned and debloated it a bit (it didn't have much). For some reason Windows Update installed Microsoft Edge version 84 and jumpscared me to make it the default browser.
they really wanted me to be an edge user no matter if it was outdated
What's paint 3D?
It's not actually called pain 3D is it?
MS Paint.
Now in 3D.
Microsoft paint but with 3d stuff.
I kinda liked the app. A while ago I had access to a machine with base image containing paint 3d. I used to play with it sometimes when I'm boared and connected to that computer. Needless to say I didn't do any 3d works in it though.
Edit: I didn't provision it so don't know if that was intentional or came with windows installation by default. These were some throwaway test machines so nobody cared.
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Oh man, I remember the days, probably getting close to 20 years ago now, when I also had programs installing themselves into my computer that I didn't authorize myself. I thank the efforts of the Linux inventors, engineers, and the community, for making my life better ever since the switch.
I may switch to linux full time in the event that I get a new PC since it looks like it's starting to become better supported (that and I really want a steam deck). I legit have done some poweruser type shit before when I used the registry editor to disable copilot, so it would be right up my alley. if only that tumor of a feature weren't hard coded into win11