Joe Rogan Blasts ‘Bulls**t Game’ of ‘Pretending’ Everyone Is ‘Hitler’ After Elon Musk Accused of ‘Nazi Salute’: ‘Crying Wolf’
Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn't mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!
You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!
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I'm noticing that being a "man's man" seems to correlate with being a bootlicker.
an entire ideology totally deaf to irony.
Anti intellectualism and submitting to fascist authority both align with machismo culture.
Moat of them have been trained from a very young age by their religious leaders to beleive anything without proof and that malice is the most effective and moral way to obtain dopamine.
A good soldier asks no questions and dies without hesitation for the cause. Squads, legions, whole army's even.
The cause? Usually always someones greed
And extreme toxicity to the point that it drives everyone away from them so they just start with some Olympic level mental gymnastics to explain why it's not their fault people hate them.
They need a daddy
No you confuse it with being a child man
Nazi sympathizer = Nazi
Keep doubling down, you fucking jackasses. Rest of the world is watching.
Key word is "watching". They're more than happy to have an audience as long as they get what they want. And they do and they are.
I wish you were wrong, but I guess “You’re up, mario”.
When your podcast accepts Nazis on your show ... your show is Nazi propaganda
More accurately, when your podcast accepts nazi's on your show... and you let them go off on rants and you don't push back on them... your show is nazi propoganda.
It's perfectly reasonable for a show to have horrific people on.... so long as they loudly are showing "No that is bullshit, here's why that is bullshit!".
I still can't for the life of me figure out why anyone gives a shit about what Joe Rogan says. We need to stop giving monumentally stupid people such large platforms.
I can't either, but he helped swing the election.
He's popular because of long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda. It's not that hard to understand why he has a large audience. The amount of push back from people complaining about him "platforming" people they disagree with further adds to the appeal. People want free expression and exchange of ideas, not censorial hall monitors with holier-than-thou attitudes who think they know better than you.
The problem is meathead Joe Rogan lets his guests tell cool stories about their experiences to gain an audience, then proceeds to express the stupidest fucking thoughts imaginable to all those people from the gaping anus that serves as his mouth.
He's the first person to say not to listen to him. I don't have an issue with people expressing their opinions even if they're as mean as this; usually folks are nicer about it when it's in person and not online.
My problem is he uncritically accepts bullshit gecause he has no idea. When he was ypunger he was more willing to change.
There seem to be lots of options for that these days. He’s not so unique anymore.
But he built up such a large audience.
I use to casually watch select episodes where the guest was someone cool or interesting. And the fringe topics could be fun.
But now… bleh. It’s all too self aware and shot with bullshit now.
Sure that's fair. There is a lot of bullshit from a lot of places these days. You've gotta be able to filter it for yourself. You don't have to agree with every position someone has on every single political issue.
That’s exactly what I use to do. I’ve never agreed with all his opinions. But it went from “we just have different perspectives” to “I can’t tolerate this nonsense, willful ignorance, etc, etc.”
He really changed. He went from a lunkhead you could assume had his heart in the right place, even if he said dumb ignorant shit, to someone who’s spreading toxic ideologies that “other” people and sow broad and deep distrust in our institutions. — It’s beyond musing about conspiracy theories and talking about “they.” Now it’s active agenda laden conspiracy proselytization.
Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn't change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he'll go completely unchecked.
There's an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).
I honestly prefer the angle of "Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you".
And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.
"Oh this person did one thing that isn't permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I'm going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again."
The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.
"Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad."
"What, so people can't make mistakes anymore? So much for the 'tolerant left'." And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.
Bro what?
Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new "woke" stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.
The only people I hear talking about "woke nonsense" are white people who are upset that the world is changing.
The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don't care how cultish it is.
I hate the term "woke" because it's wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.
if you still have spotify, please cancel it.
Yes, I guess at this point Spotify is a pro-Nazi business.
What large corporation isn’t at this point?
Costco?
Which music streaming service do you recommend? (honest question)
I've tried a few of them, all with family plans:
Amazon Music: good track selection, awful apps. Horrid integration with Sonos.
YouTube Music: I was using this for quite a while, my kids hated it because of the way the miniplayer worked. I found it frustrating because it would often play a YouTube rip of a song instead of the album track.
Tidal: great choice, but I couldn't get it to use gapless playback when casting to my receiver.
Apple Music: we're currently all using this one. Everyone is happy (Android, Chromecast, Sonos, iPhones, iPads, Car Play, and Android Auto). Finally.
Have you tried Napster? That's not a joke in case you thought it might be
I’m quite happy with Tidal. Been using it for 6-7 months now.
I use Tidal but their servers kind of suck sometimes.
YouTube premium has YouTube music, and it works well enough for me and my extended family
Yes cause google is SO much better
I know it’s fashionable to hate on Apple (justified or not), but Apple Music is very good. As a bonus, you can bundle it with Apple TV+, which have so many extremely good shows and movies.
Soulseek with listenbrainz
Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll have a look at them. Unfortunately none of them seem all that good. Spotify ist the only one that has a Linux app. Tide has a third party app, which is just the website inside electron. Even the Spotify app is just electron. I find it extremely shitty that these companies don't even bother publishing electron apps. The ratings on the play store are also mostly bad. But I have to investigate that.
Done
Does Joe Rogan own Spotify?
No, but they're donating money to the inauguration and hosting Rogan, Shapiro, and others podcasters to, by Spotify's own word, "tout the power of podcasts in the election". It seems awfully cozy behavior.
Oh shit, thanks for the jnfo!
Can always count on Joe Rogan to be the smartest man in the room when he’s alone.
I don't know, I think he may be the first person to ever be stupider than himself.
Mans got 2 braincells fighting for 3rd place and they're both losing.
Dude's about as clever as frozen scallop.
No one ever said he's a Nazi sympathizer because he's stupid. He's a Nazi sympathizer and he's stupid.
Who exactly am I hurting by saying Joe Rogan is stupid? His asshole fans?
And am I hurting assholes by saying his fans are assholes?
Can you show any evidence that people in any significant number find the word 'stupid' to be hurtful to a whole group of people?
Because in my 47 years, this is the first time I have ever heard anyone anywhere claim that 'stupid' is a generally offensive word that hurts people as a group.
You just keep digging a hole.
The man is a billionaire. He's not being hurt by people piling on. He's winning.
It sucks to give people shit for their flaws. This isn't quite that. He became a billionaire despite being dumber than a rock.
Do people always forget how the story about crying wolf ends? A real fuckin wolf shows up. Rips the kid to sheds. Horrible ending.
To shreds, you say?
"Well, how is his wife holding up?"
To shreds you say?
It would have been to progressive to not use child labor. They likely didn't respect his job because they considered it unskilled. All he did was stand at the door at Costco and check for membership cards.
Oh wait..
Joe Rogan is a meathead.
Close your eyes and imagine a meathead.
That's Joe Rogan.
Only a fool would listen to what Joe Rogan has to say because only fools listen to meatheads.
Unfortunately, we live in an age where meatheads are idolized by millions of people. Because our educational systems have failed. Because many, if not most, humans were simply not ready for the internet.
I thought he was Broprah until I remembered Oprah didn't chum around with the fascists, white supremacists, or neonazis on the show.
Other than Dr.Oz
Any of the diets she peddled, Her career before she decided trash tv wasn't for her, Dr. Phil, Deepak Chopra...
You mean the satanic panic lady was pure...
She did have the KKK on her show, and she did it in the daytime tv model as well. Not saying she was chuming around with them, but she did have them on.
She yelled at them.
Yeah, but she did have them on her show.
What's another word for a guy who defends nazis?
Hmm i have the feeling it's start with a N
He’s not hitler. He’s just a nazi.
I wouldn't be shocked if Joe didn't know that there were Nazis other than Hitler.
I feel dumber just having read that. Apparently pointing out that someone made a Nazi salute is covering for the fact that .... checks notes ... you're an asshole. The fact that this village idiot is popular is truly a damning indictment of America.
He funds AfD, Joe.
And does Nazi salutes in public. And supports "Tommy Robinson", leader of the UK's stupidest far-right thugs. And was praised by his own father for returning to his Nazi roots.
These people play the "left is always over reacting" but they would carry water for Elon no matter how damming the evidence. They've shown they don't care about evidence or reality its all vibes to them.
I wanna see a cage match between Joe Rogan and Alex Jones where they beat the hell out of each other while
debatingscreaming incoherently.I mean, Rogan does have a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He'd pulverize ol' beet-faced Jones. Jones just kind of always looks like he's ready to have a heart attack in the next five minutes.
But they wouldn't actually fight. They'd just agree with each other and then jack each other off. No-one wants to see that.
It would temporarily redeem him. Temporarily. Until he opened his mouth again.
Lol. They'd look like two micro-penises flopping around on the ground.
Lot of extremely ignorant people out there.
Our educational system is failing and many humans simply cannot handle the internet responsibly.
Joe Rogan is such a disappointment. Dude lost his mind during COVID.
Hey hey now - let's not forget that he got famous in the first place on the garbage pile that was fear factor.
Must we forget about the fantastic News Radio that quickly?
And the so-called Man Show with that other shitheel
Hey, you can badmouth Rogan all you want, but you do not badmouth my man Doug Stanhope.
Despite their doing that show together, he's about as anti-Rogan as you can get.
Everyone makes mistakes.
That was Kimmel and Carolla. I don't think Joe was on that.
Never mind, he was. But long after I had stopped watching it.
Speaking of alt-right dipsticks, what is Adam Carolla up to these days?
Looks like the answer is: not much.
He came up recently during the LA fires because he was spouting bullshit about them.
Totally forgot about the guy.
Dude used to openly endorse Bernie sanders and defended him vehemently on his podcast. He also laid the smack down on Candace Owens about climate change and owned Jordan Peterson on his stupid views about equality of outcome. He also called Steven Crowder a bitch to his face. He is a far cry from that man now.
The only advice I ever took seriously from Joe Rogan was when he was still just doing comedy on stage and literally said "I am an idiot. Nobody should listen to me."
Joe is operating in bad faith here.
Q: At what point can we call a spade a spade and they'd agree?
A: Never
Even if we were literally rounding Jews up into boxcars and shipping them off to be killed in ovens, the republicans would be like "OH, SO WE JUST CALL EVERYONE NAZIS NOW".
So, this whole dynamic is very simple: If you’re defending a Nazi, you’re a Nazi.
If you're at a dinner and there are 4 nazis sitting at the table with you, there are 5 nazis at the table.
So Joe it was just a Roman salute huh? He was just trolling huh even though the motherfucker has said he is a white supremecist at what point is this shit not just trolling anymore
Where did he say he is a white supremacist
He's a cryptofascist. I don't think he's come outright and said it, but when he portrays himself as the semi-ironic white supremacist god "Kek," he knows that it gives him enough plausible deniably that he can play his fashy little denial games.
After his sieg heil the other day, there's no longer any room for doubt.
So he didn't outright say it, but if I flip someone off while grinning and telling them they're number one, there's no denying what I'm actually saying.
I 100% agree but the user I responded to claimed that Elon admitted to being a white supremacist, and I just wanted a source on that because I don't think it happened
Yeah, remember when people would say that qons could be literally goosestepping for their orange dickhead (or someone else standing in for the same role they are so very thirsty to worship) and they'd still be gaslighting about it?
The real president just threw Nazi salutes, and here we are...
It's similar to their regular "you call everything racism" bullshit. They really do seem to believe that acknowledging what they are doing is unfair to them.
The guy from News Radio?
The sad thing is that when someone says that, they could also be talking about Andy Dick.
No one talks about Andy Dick
BUT!
It was our wedding day...
News Radio was at least 5 hat sizes ago for him.
Dont trust our lying eyes, eh?
Goebbels say what?
That's giving Joe way too much credit. Goebbels was evil, but he was also smart.
Spot on. There are so many good quotes from him and Goering. I'm not a Nazi weirdo or anything, but they're just so... Relevant.
Goebbels:
Makes you think some leaders studied this a bit...
W: "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
Yeah I debated going with Göring, but I decided to pick the 'mouth of Sauron ' angle. As Göring is also way more intelligent than Rogan... And a legit war vet.
The sad part of that analogy is, eventually, there is a wolf.
The parable works for both groups: those who call foul in bad faith or too much & those that don’t listen to legitimate warnings. Both groups make mistakes in the end. The boy and the town lose their collective sheep to wolves.
I don’t know what evidence these people would need to see in order to have their world view challenged. I feel like if Musk was at a Nazi rally while talking about how apartheid benefited his family, people would still find a delusional way to not see what is so obvious.
Joe Rogan defending a billionaire for doing a overt nazi salute in public? Crazy. Who could have seen this coming.
Joe does not rely on facts he relies on his talent to hold conversation and trap people to agreeing with his opinions. He spews the biggest bunch of horse shit. I am from Southern Africa, I listend to a podcast where he was talking about cheetahs. Yeah he had no idea and talking garbage about how cheetahs behave. That's when my suspicions about him were verified and I was like fuck this guy. Don't support this douche.
I was kinda hoping that Joe would call it what it was. Not that I care about his opinion but to at least prove he is still somewhat independent.
Why would you hold such hopes? Seriously, I have you tagged as "REALLY GOOD AT CUTTING THROUGH THE CRAP," and Rogan has been all-crap for soooo long.
Well I don’t really follow Rogan, but I’ve seen and heard snippets here and there and he always struck me as at least honest. A lot of the (rightfully)shit he gets from liberals is because he doesn’t push people when they say downright incorrect things in his program. But I get why he does that, if he started doing that people would stop going to his show, no one wants to be put in an uncomfortable position especially if you’re not being paid.
But it seem’s that now he’s just fully down with the agenda, which I did not expect to happen so fast.
Man. I would love to hear less from this guy. I block every goddamn channel on YouTube that has clips of this ass hat, and yet, YouTube keeps feeding me videos of him. What the everloving fuck?
So, what I'm hearing is, you engage with every video that features Joe Rogan, and now you're surprised the algorithm is feeding you more Joe Rogan? /s 🤣 sorry, I couldn't help myself
Ha. Good point. I need to just get off YouTube. But alas.
He's the voice of a generation...
The generation that grew up breathing lead fumes.
So weird to see this guy now after watching him early in his career on news radio. Then watching fear factor from time to time.
When I think of Rogan now I remember the day Howard Stern was kicked off of clear channel. I guess the only thing that really bothered Republicans was that Howard wasn't on their side.
I wish that I existed in the better timeline where after Fear Factor was over, this guy went on to sell vacuum cleaners on infomercials where he belongs instead of being some sort of political talking head. I mean, what the fuck.
I joked about this once, but I'm starting to think that if the Democrats want to win the people over, they need to get that guy who hosted Survivor to run for president, and get Guy Fieri to run a podcast to get all the kids onboard. The USA might not trust politicians or science or education anymore but they sure as hell trust '00s era reality TV stars.
America elected a B-movie actor and then a reality TV show star as presidents, so I think you're probably right. The culture of celebrity worship in America could be the only way to get through to people.
big surprise
My goodness, your post history...
Ive been going through this guys history for a bit and it is quite a ride.