Spyke
lemmy.ca

Musk has burnt through $44 Billion. I'm sure even the government could have spent it better than he has

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lemmy.world

They would have spent it on bombs and missiles, not on useful stuff.

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But bombs and missiles "Made in USA", that's how the trickle down works, right? 💦🚽

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sabreW4K3reply
lemmy.tf

You overestimate governments. But a blind dog could've spent it much better.

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lemm.ee

... he said in a post on a worldwide network whose creation the US government originally funded.

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Lumidaubreply
feddit.de

Not for the purpose of giving it to the people.

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irmozreply
reddthat.com

They only said the government were capable of doing it, not that they would be motivated by pure benevolence

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Zehzinreply
lemmy.world

To be fair, of the 44B, they'd use 30b to blow up children's hospitals, give 13b to some rich fucks, 800m would disappear and the rest would fund something nice

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Tavarinreply
lemmy.ca

Have you ever looked at US federal spending? 27% goes to healthcare, 21% goes to social security, 13% to income security, 13% to defense, then the rest is split between education, veterans benefits, transportation, and regional development/other.

I know people like to meme the government spending, but the majority goes to healthcare, elder care, and veterans.

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I can't wait until Snowden resurfaces and shows us how much of that 27% healthcare actually goes to healthcare and how much is skimmed to line people's pockets.

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Plenty of government employees wanted that very thing.

Including that Al Gore guy.

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Fritz Haber invented synthetic fertilizers he also developed chemical weapons during ww1. Whats your fucking point? Lots of good things were created by terrible people and lots of terrible things were created by good people.

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Who is this blind dog, and how can we make him president?! 🐕‍🦺

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WarmSodareply
lemm.ee

Yes! Bombard them with body spray!!

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XEALreply

Delete the rich

Extinguish the rich

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lemmy.world

The techie guys are also the ones with verified Twitter accounts and Elon Musk balls on their mouths in my experience so i can't say i'm surprised if they deleted your post :/

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A lot of us sadly are, but there are also ones like me with a strong affinity for open source and such. And we collectively join in the Elon hate.

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lemmy.world

Looks fake. Probably why. Lighting is all fucked. Ground not consistent with massive sign lit up. 🚩

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The joke is that Twitter put a giant X Sign on the roof of their building so the edit needs to include an X

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Robaquereply
feddit.it

Nah, for them, taxes would just be another small hurdle to squash

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Make it a tiered hurdle: top tier, above $1M, 98% income taxes.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Honestly, just taxing the rich is one of the most milquetoast and obvious takes ever. Should not even be radical imo since it just makes sense

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lemmy.world

The social network is actually named after the band so... technical it's always both. 🐘

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lemmy.world

My bad, just meant to argue that taxes weren't explicitly communist. I don't have any strong feelings for or agains t communism yet, maybe I'll look into it later. Just hate to see people use thr name of an economic system as a debate ender, although I suppose I did the same. Guess it's just the debater in me wishing we could have actual structural arguments on thr internet instead of throwing slang words around.

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frevaljeereply
kbin.social

Oh yes, an ideology defined by private ownership and small government intervention is also somehow responsible for the basis of government intervention - taxes.

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explodiclereply
local106.com

They don't actually believe in small government intervention at all - they want the goverment to enforce private property rights and then just tax a little back, below the profits from owning that property.

The big lie is that private property is natural, and thus its enforcement is small.

(Edit: clarity)

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frevaljeereply
kbin.social

A government which only enforces private property rights is still significantly smaller than most alternatives.

Enforcement of private property rights is a part of virtually all governments, and then you pile all other stuff on top of that hence making the government bigger.

And ofc the taxes will be below the profits, no sane person would make any investments in anything if it was above the profits.

Edit: and to add, many hardcore capitalists, like minarchists, libertarians, or anarcho capitalists, propose that you don't even need a government to enforce private property rights. They'd rather solve that issue privately.

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explodiclereply
local106.com

But I'm comparing against socialism, not against most capitalist countries. We don't need to encourage investment where the factors of production are owned by the workers themselves.

The ancaps illustrate my point - it's absolute monarchy that they falsely claim is anarchy.

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I don't think I follow your reasoning tbh. What exactly are you comparing? You said that capitalists favour intervening governments, which is simply not true. Not in any general sense anyway.

Anarcho capitalism is probably as far into anarchy you can go. They want to completely abolish the state and enforce property rights privately.

Or are you saying that such a society will fall into some kind of feudalism? At the core of anarcho capitalism is the NAP which is not really compatible with feudalism. In feudalism you have a hierarchy not based on voluntarism, and that would therefore not be anarcho capitalist.

Do you imply that we need a strong state with a monopoly on violence to keep us in check, otherwise we would descend into chaos? Thats a pretty bleak and pessimistic view of mankind.

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It would definitely fit that instance too, it's also some quality shitpost and could fit in political communities as well so kind of a universal one if you ask me!

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lemm.ee

Why did they delete it? Is it even a real picture?

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lemmy.world

You’re looking at it. It’s as real as this text you’re reading!

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WarmSodareply
lemm.ee

All I see is blonde, brunette, red head...

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Jakdraculareply
lemmy.world

There’s no “x” in your sentence.

The sign was a huge, dumb “x”, using that X, the new, ah, forget it.

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Ken Ohreply
lemm.ee

This is not the gotcha you think it is. Yes, tax the Bidens.

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lemmy.world

I'm looking at them buddy. No one is buying into your bait. They agree with your assertion that we should tax people as rich as Biden. I think you're talking about the guy who was trying to show you that if you have a problem with Biden's millions, you should be even more troubled by the billionaire it seems you're defending.

People aren't obsessed with Biden. Biden has done some good while in office - a lot more than people were expecting. The best thing he's done by far is not being Donald Trump. We all know why we voted for him, and it's not his progressive policies.

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HikingVetreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Why is it chuckle fucks like you suddenly lose all ability to read context clues when it's an idea you don't like?

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Its funny how the rich are the ones "tax the rich" ans point to people who have more money than they do

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BigNotereply
lemm.ee

Tax all of them! What part about it do you not understand? Do we need to spell it out for you? WTF is wrong with you?

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lemmy.world

Take the rich peoples money and give it to the poor! And when they are the new rich, take their money and give it to the new poor!

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Correct. Except, the poor won't be the new rich because there are more poor than rich. Many, many more. Hence the idea that the way things currently are is unfair.

Take the money from the rich, give it to the poor and we will have something slightly closer to economic equality.

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lemmy.world

I don't even think the Bidens are that rich by politician standards, but we should tax them just like everyone else.

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You have negative reading comprehension. You see meaning that is the exact opposite of what is written because it supports your bad viewpoint.

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If you think ~10M is the dangerous kind of rich then yeah, most people realize that 100M+ or even 1B+ is the people that are actually severely dangerous. Especially the people that end up with that number somehow after several bankruptcies...

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