It seems like a no-brainer to just make a better Switch, so I’m hoping for the same things as you. I really hope they see that the best thing they can do is the most “boring” thing: just make it more powerful. Give it maybe a better screen and more battery life. Maybe update the joycons (but still use the form factor because people have multiple joycons and wouldn’t it be nice to just use the things you already have?). But also let me play all my switch games. And maybe recent releases (uhh Zelda) could easily work on this system with better framerates.

Stuff like that is all I need. We tried the Wii, and it was fun for a time. The Wii U was interesting but obviously not the right choice. But the Switch idea is so excellent it just seems like they’d be fools to try and change it up significantly.

GameCube to Wii was fine.

As for being fully compatible with the Switch, I don't see why it wouldn't be if they are doing another ARM based system. The Switch is not exactly difficult to emulate anymore considering phones have been able to do it for a couple years now.

My guess is that it won't be. Nintendo is a toy company. They've never once just done an iterative version of a console. There's always some new gimmick, usually based around input, that they have to fuck with that makes everything incompatible.

All they have to do is make a more powerful Switch and they're golden. But this is Nintendo, so...

Pattern? Are you implying that the GameCube or SNES were bad consoles? That's crazy talk.

I mean the Switch is no masterpiece, it's just the perfect storm of good games and accessibility that people crave. If that continues, it stands to reason the successor to the Switch has a chance to break the curse. And is it really a curse? The Gamecube fucking rocked.

Only Nintendo console that sucked was the Wii U. Crazy talk!

Or SwitchU or something and it falls flat...knowing nintendo, this is exactly what they will do. They're like the microsoft of consoles, releasing a solid console every other generation.

If you have a release switch just do it. The switch is cheap enough that if you get banned and really really really want to play am online game, then you can just buy a used one without a dock or joycons.

I have a fusee exploited switch that I installed atmosphere on like 4-5 years ago. Pirate tons of games and haven't been banned.

All you need to do properly follow the steps, and don't play pirated games on sysnand/online

I even used atmosphere on sysnand for a few years and was fine.

Worst case the console is banned and you just buy a new one with all the money you saved not spending $60 on used Nintendo games, and the banned console is still good for literally everything except playing the few online games.

Once Nintendo stops making games for it is when I'll hack mine.

Tears of the Kingdom has shown that the Switch is at it's limits here. It runs and it's playable, but it's perilously close to not being.

7 years is about right for a hardware generation. PS4 and Xbox One had that too, and they had a mid-gen performance refresh to boost the longevity. Base PS4 games were borderline unplayable by the end.

No it's because the switch is underpowered and like 7 years old lol. As my as I love my Steam Deck, they're not even in the same market.

There was a rumor that Nintendo was developing a Switch Pro that was intended to release in 2020, but due to the chip shortage they had to scrap the chipset upgrade and that became the Switch OLED. I love my Steam Deck but I'm pretty sure this has been in the works for a while.

I don't think that's the case they probably have had at least a small team working on this before the Steam deck was announced. I don't think the audiences overlap that much to be honest and the two devices have different use cases.

The steam deck is just a powerful hand held computer (relative to other gaming hardware is pretty weak though) that runs PC games with all the ups and downs that come with that. I think there are number of steam deck buyer that are not that familiar with the underlying hardware that are going to be disappointed when new games are not going to run acceptably on it. Where as for the switch/switch 2 games will at least run acceptably

In this case competition is no bad thing. I'm sure the next version of the Steam Deck will be well worth it.

This. Totally this.

Whether I get their next console depends entirely on them keeping the NSO games and backwards compatibility with switch games.

Miyamoto body is Reggie.

No way it will every reach a current gen console because of the thermal restrictions of how small it is and the battery not being able to power a chip that is capable of modern games with 4/HDR/etc. But I'm sure if they use a modern efficient SoC it can push out some pretty good graphics.

1080p resolution but better performance would be good enough for me.

Oof, as much as I love the idea of bringing back DS/3DS titles to the eShop, I really don’t trust that Nintendo hardware would withstand a fold.

I think a safer option would be for the Switch-2 to beam to the Switch Dock, like a WiiU game pad, and have the option to have two screens if desired by devs. That would give the option to bring back WiiU and select DS/3DS titles using the NSO model.

Just in general or something specific that was brought up in the article?

Nah their games are dope

I’d be completely shocked about any performance above 1080p honestly.

I would be okay with 1080p60 with med-high graphic detail on modern games. 1440p comes with a pretty big performance hit.

1080p/30 is the max they'll do, and is sufficient for 95% of users.

1440p on a handheld screen seems excessive to me.

1080p games upscale really well on even my few year old cheaper TCL Roku TV. If we could get 1080p 60 FPS more steadily, that would be good enough, and I'd imagine most of their audience wouldn't care about the extra pixels.

It's not even that, it's got an LED screen rather than an OLED.

I doubt it. Next year the Switch will be 7 years old. That's firmly in "next generation" territory.

The new console should be backwards compatible (and if Nintendo have any sense at all, boost framerates for Switch games), but I wouldn't expect new games to keep coming out for the old Switch once the new one picks up a decent number of users.

This may be rose colored glasses talking, but IMO the GameCube wasn't a failure. It had quite a few iconic titles (SSBM, Animal Crossing, Mario Galaxy Sunshine) and to this day the GC controller is still considered one of, if not the best, way to play smash bros.

I remember back in the 90s N64 magazines were always posting rumors about the "Dolphin" console that Nintendo was supposed to be developing, which eventually became the Gamecube. Nintendo also was more open back then, with their famous Mario 128 tech demo for example. Also the Nintendo DD rumors were huge as well, which turned out to be a big failure and never released outside of Japan.

I mean, they kind of have to do that, or else you get the Osborne Effect where everyone just waits for the new version, and your business suffers.

ETA: also, source? They usually say they won't comment, or that there's always something new in development at all times. Don't they?

The good thing was that so far they're consoles have been hacked for home brew for nearly 2 decades now.

As much as I would like that, majority of steam deck users don't care it's mostly open, and that would make finding vulnerabilities to allow pirating easier, which companies hate for no good reason. And there is all that iderto drm switch stuff floating around They have little reason to open it sadly, which will always make the steam deck a better option in my opinion