Hasnt that always been obvious? Thats how humans have handled every single interaction with other species/cultures so how could they imagine any different outcome?
You know what, this makes a good point. The only people who will be truly more fucked then they are right now when the alien apocalypse comes is the 1% because now they are just a bunch of powerless slaves
Real talk. Would aliens even want our natural resources? Like they could travel the cosmos. Our planet is made up of elements that are already available to them before they get here.
Like our planet doesn't have anything special when it comes to resources.
I mean, space travel is not free energy. These aliens would have to evolve and invent interplanetary flight. Then be able to travel FASTER than the speed of light to get to us. That's if they are located in our Milky Way. If they are not, they probably need wormholes or some science fiction level imagination to get to us.
Water is nothing but 2 hydrogen molecules and 1 oxygen. They bond fairly easily at room temp. While yes, it would be faster to just suck up water from our oceans, it's extremely more energy intensive to travel to our part of the milky way. They could literally hit up a hydrogen intense moon/planet and another oxygen one and just make it themselves with the little energy it needs for it to bond.
I think the main difference between our planet and others like ours that would be more rare is life. Being the only sentient planet that we know of makes us more special.
So potentially they are just abducting us to probe our butts.
They are probably watching us destroy our planet and observing and recording. How nature conservancy folks don't intervine when an animal is doing something self destructive.
Not all planets are the same, even within our solar system. Although it's hard to think a space travelling species would come all the way to Earth for them. On the other hand Earth could provide a comfortable home base from where they could mine minerals, metals and harvest hydrocarbons. It's easier to mine on Earth than on an asteroid.
If you look at where we are on the milky way, we are pretty far from all the other clusters. Like they gotta REALLY want something here they can't find elsewhere. Maybe life is what they want and maybe we are the natural resource that other planets don't have.
Judging by how things have been going, it would probably be something stupid like fossil “fuels” having unique valuable properties as a high tech material, but then the aliens arrive and say “you fucking lit it all on fire?!?!?”
Alien: we will poison your oceans with synthetic micro particles
Human: got that too.
Alien: that it’s, time for the big stuff. We will create elaborate torture schedules that give you soul crushing tasks while slowly making all good things in your life worse as we condition you that it’s all your fault.
Human: oh boy, you should probably sit down for this…
Alien: fine! it sure would be a shame if something happened to these lovely polar ice caps...we shall slowly but surely shift your planet's entire climate, until eventually you will boil like lobsters and the oceans rise!
"Dammit. Okay. We'll divide you up into arbitrary subgroups, spread lies amongst those groups, and have you fight amongst yourselves rather than unify!"
I find mining very interesting, especially the reclamation aspect. There are tons of issues to get things back to chemically and physically stable.
The mine shown here is the Ekati Mine in NWT Canada. It's set to close in 2029. All mines must have a plan for closure, and these plans, at least in NWT are public.
Closure plans are super long: the summary text is often 200 to 300 pages, and with the associated appendices are like 1-3k pages in length and are highly technical
Fortunately, Section 1 (page 49) has a plain language summary of the closure plan. Here you can find a summary of major closure strategies for things like pits and waste rock dumps
These plans get more and more certain as they revise them and approach the end of operations.
Fill your boots! There is some cool stuff in the closure plan if you're inclined to learn more!
Thrn you realize that alien invasion stories are a (often unconscious) metaphor for colonialism from the point of view of the colonized…
Hasnt that always been obvious? Thats how humans have handled every single interaction with other species/cultures so how could they imagine any different outcome?
Alien: "We will vaporize your entire species!"
Me: "It's about damn time."
"No problem, if you just wait a century or two we should clear the board for you on our own"
Kinda sad for the people, who were excited :o
Not really. Once they join the federation there's sex past the red tape.
But now they wont join the federation :(
"We'll take your women to bare our children"
"The volunteers are lining up already"
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/humans-2
Gee thanks for linking the comic where I stole the joke from :p
You know what, this makes a good point. The only people who will be truly more fucked then they are right now when the alien apocalypse comes is the 1% because now they are just a bunch of powerless slaves
Real talk. Would aliens even want our natural resources? Like they could travel the cosmos. Our planet is made up of elements that are already available to them before they get here.
Like our planet doesn't have anything special when it comes to resources.
Exactly. Humans are so goddamn ego-centric that we think everything is about us.
The aliens not only look like us, they operate spacecraft in the same way that we operate vehicles!
The aliens will come here to take our resources just like we do in the Middle East!
The aliens abducted me and probed my butthole just like Uncle Cletus used to!
etc. etc.
Can't find your uncle.
The only thing I can think that would be unique is the life on this planet and the way it's adapted and formed. We'd likely just be studied.
That is until they find out about the seven dragonballs.
So basically we are a natural resource.
More like a nature preserve. They'd probably be ecstatic about national parks like Yellowstone and Sarangeti
It has resource extracting infrastructure already! Plus free labor! (A rare resource in the cosmos)
Keep in mind that they have near limitless energy if they are able to travel here.
It's like asking ants to help my excavator dig a hole.
They could experience time differently than us though. Also, Limitless energy doesn't mean that they conjur up as much extra energy as they need.
They might not care about waiting a or ten thousand years while we do it for them.
I mean, space travel is not free energy. These aliens would have to evolve and invent interplanetary flight. Then be able to travel FASTER than the speed of light to get to us. That's if they are located in our Milky Way. If they are not, they probably need wormholes or some science fiction level imagination to get to us.
It's got delicious CEO's
What if they need water?
Drain our oceans and fuck up our ecosystems and weather balance.
The ocean is earths heatsink. Imagen extreme temperature changes across the planet. All life as we know it could end.
Water is nothing but 2 hydrogen molecules and 1 oxygen. They bond fairly easily at room temp. While yes, it would be faster to just suck up water from our oceans, it's extremely more energy intensive to travel to our part of the milky way. They could literally hit up a hydrogen intense moon/planet and another oxygen one and just make it themselves with the little energy it needs for it to bond.
I think the main difference between our planet and others like ours that would be more rare is life. Being the only sentient planet that we know of makes us more special.
So potentially they are just abducting us to probe our butts.
With any luck it would be Alien archeologists that want to observe the rare primitivities and not intervene.
The prime directive.
They are probably watching us destroy our planet and observing and recording. How nature conservancy folks don't intervine when an animal is doing something self destructive.
Not all planets are the same, even within our solar system. Although it's hard to think a space travelling species would come all the way to Earth for them. On the other hand Earth could provide a comfortable home base from where they could mine minerals, metals and harvest hydrocarbons. It's easier to mine on Earth than on an asteroid.
If you look at where we are on the milky way, we are pretty far from all the other clusters. Like they gotta REALLY want something here they can't find elsewhere. Maybe life is what they want and maybe we are the natural resource that other planets don't have.
Judging by how things have been going, it would probably be something stupid like fossil “fuels” having unique valuable properties as a high tech material, but then the aliens arrive and say “you fucking lit it all on fire?!?!?”
I guess fossil fuel would be unique to our planet.
Im waiting for the time when aliens enslave us under worst conditions and 90% of humanity will be better off than before.
Alien: we will poison your oceans with synthetic micro particles
Human: got that too.
Alien: that it’s, time for the big stuff. We will create elaborate torture schedules that give you soul crushing tasks while slowly making all good things in your life worse as we condition you that it’s all your fault.
Human: oh boy, you should probably sit down for this…
Alien: fine! it sure would be a shame if something happened to these lovely polar ice caps...we shall slowly but surely shift your planet's entire climate, until eventually you will boil like lobsters and the oceans rise!
Been there, done that
"Dammit. Okay. We'll divide you up into arbitrary subgroups, spread lies amongst those groups, and have you fight amongst yourselves rather than unify!"
Old news. What else you got?
I find mining very interesting, especially the reclamation aspect. There are tons of issues to get things back to chemically and physically stable.
The mine shown here is the Ekati Mine in NWT Canada. It's set to close in 2029. All mines must have a plan for closure, and these plans, at least in NWT are public.
Here is the one for Ekati. https://registry.mvlwb.ca/Documents/W2020L2-0004/Ekati%20-%20CRP%20Version%203.1%20-%20Part%201%20-%20Aug%2015_23.pdf
Closure plans are super long: the summary text is often 200 to 300 pages, and with the associated appendices are like 1-3k pages in length and are highly technical
Fortunately, Section 1 (page 49) has a plain language summary of the closure plan. Here you can find a summary of major closure strategies for things like pits and waste rock dumps
These plans get more and more certain as they revise them and approach the end of operations.
Fill your boots! There is some cool stuff in the closure plan if you're inclined to learn more!
Basically the plot of 3 Body Problem
Agreed 100%. Be thankful you didn't read the 2nd book. So ridiculously silly and predictable. To the point of absurdity.
I love sci-fi. Cool unique ideas, terrible execution. These books are so overrated.
We <3 Zebu
Look. everyone is on the Kang Bang Train however I'm kudos for Kudos.
Vote Kudos.
*Kodos
This is better if you read the "me" parts in the voice of Tom Servo (as pictured), and the alien parts in the voice of Dr. Forrester.
The good news is that at some point, our alien overlord will eventually go away.
Yea no shit because the government is led by aliens