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llms.txt - please sanitize your data for us.

This is a proposal by some AI bro to add a file called llms.txt that contains a version of your websites text that is easier to process for LLMs. Its a similar idea to the robots.txt file for webcrawlers.

Wouldn't it be a real shame if everyone added this file to their websites and filled them with complete nonsense. Apparently you only need to poison 0.1% of the training data to get an effect.

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kbin.earth

Theoretically speaking, what level of nonsense are we talking about in order to really mess up the training model?

a) Something that doesn't represent the actual contents of the website (like posting "The Odyssey" to the llms.txt of a software documentation site),

b) a randomly generated wall of real words out of context, or

c) just straight lorem ipsum filler?

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lemm.ee

Place output from another LLM in there that has thematically the same content as what's on the website, but full of absolutely wrong information. Straight up hallucinations.

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Using one LLM to fuck up a lot more is poetic I suppose. I'd just rather not use them in the first place.

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This. Research has shown that training LLMs on the output of other LLMs very rapidly induces total model collapse. It's basically AI inbreeding.

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I'm trying to optimise my human efficiency vs effort here, but yeah. Get your point.

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slrpnk.net

It would be incredibly funny wrong if this was adopted and used to poison LLMs.

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raoulreply
lemmy.sdf.org

We could respect this convention the same way the IA webcrawlers respect robot.txt 🤷‍♂️

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Towerreply
lemm.ee

Do webcrawlers from places other than Iowa respect that file differently?

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raoulreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Sorry: Intelligence Artificielle <=> Artificial Intelligence

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I've had a page that bans by ip listed as 'dont visit here' on my robots.txt file for seven months now. It's not listed anywhere else. I have no banned IPs on there yet. Admittedly, i've only had 15 visitors in that past six months though.

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Seriously. I've never seen a convention so aggressively ignored. This isn't the brilliant idea some think it is.

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So AI should get the most relevant info, while we (humans) have to fight through ads, and popups and shit... At this point, I feel discriminated

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