What positive things do you expect from Trumps upcoming four years?
Maybe this question seems stupid, so be it. But I've seen mostly bad news, and I struggle to get away from it.
I want to know this: What do you think is going to be good and or great in the upcoming four years of us politics?
There's a good chance he dies.
I think that's actually a worse scenario. Trump, while evil, doesn't really have the focus or energy to fully enact the entire range of bullshit he could/people say he will. If Vance takes over, his billionaire puppeteers are in full control and he'll enthusiastically continue on with Project 2025. If there's an election in 2028, he gets to run with the advantages of being the incumbent President instead of a VP hoping to take over from his predecessor.
I call that "God's ultimate veto"
But then we get a couch fucker as president.
I'm hoping he does before the inauguration.
My money's on choking to death on a burger while sitting on a toilet and jerking it to a picture of his daughter.
The best case scenario: Trump, Vance and RFK Jr. all take the same Boeing flight to the inauguration and it crashes.
I don't think someone else's death is ever a good thing to hope for
I strongly disagree. There are many times where someone else’s death is something to hope for. I think if you try you can think of a few relatively easily.
I'm afraid I cannot. That's why I have that view. To each their own tho, I still appreciate your perspective!
Normally if agree but I'm willing to make exceptions.
The only problem is that then Vance gets to step up and while Trump is willing to use Project 2025 to get what he wants, Vance is one of the authors.
The slow death of the American empire. It may push the rest of the world to a geopolitical realignment that excludes the US. This could allow international organizations to proceed without having the US veto human rights, actions against climate change, or things like that.
You say that like it hasn't been in decline since 2000 or so lol
We will know that is happening if there is ever a real movement to abolish the UN Security Council, or at least the permanent seats that have veto power. Until then, the US will always have that power.
The last 10 years provide excellent reasoning for the removal of the US, Russia, and Israel from any council where they have veto power. Especially given that veto power is often used to allow atrocities to continue.
That's kinda sad. But given things like food and other basic human needs not being recognized by one one country in the un, you might just be right.
Thank you for the insight tho!
Well there's hope that it incentivices the American people to revolt or revolution. So...yay?
This is what we want. This is who we are as a nation. There will be no revolution.
Yeah totally. The mass of white liberals is going to suddenly revolt and start a revolution lol.
They're going to do what they always do: put their head down and rationalize the oppression of the poor, racial minorities, and women. That, at least, has will stay consistent.
"I DID my part! I took ten minutes out of my day to vote! What else could you possibly expect of me??"
Yeah just like we hoped Russian citizens would. Probably not going to happen.
Perhaps? Let's hope it stays peaceful tho
No tyrant has ever been defeated by asking nicely.
Meh, fair
For people who have 401Ks or other investments, the likely deregulation pushes up stock prices (which is why the stock market had a big bump this week). Oh, sure, those regulations help protect the environment, workers rights, worker health and safety, etc., but:
You know he hasn’t taken office yet, right?
Why without you think I didn't?
I'm not holding my breath but this could be a huge turning point for the Democratic party where they may finally follow the populism playbook that Bernie started in 2016.
My pet theory is that this is our opportunity to decimate the 2 party system.
That might just make the country more democratic!
Only a tenth, huh? Well, you do you.
It's so sad he never got to be president. As a non American he was a favourite of mine.
From what I've seen from Bernie, that would mean the country would get nicer for the less fortunate, right?
The end of daylight savings.
Fuckhead almost did it.
Oh heck yes! Normal hours please!
The tariffs might increase US manufacturing as many people won't want to trade. Maybe.
Or result in US businesses moving their trade dollars from tariff-affectrd countries to others that could really use the money, like Mexico or Central America.
I have a feeling even if this happens we’ll still see an increase in American goods. That high of tariffs ensures there is no competition and American companies can charge whatever they want.
We are just repeating history if he indiscriminately puts tariffs on businesses.
American made products do tend to have good quality to my knowledge
Which products? All the ones designed in the US to be manufactured in China?
Harley Davidson? Just the first one that comes to mind
Not actually a good example, most motorcyclists hate HD
Fair enough, ehm, intel cpu's?
Also a bad example, there have been a lot of issues with their recent ones
Hmm, ye they've hit a bit of a stump recently
Yes, there are a lot of them still lurking...
Liberty Tabletop, American Blanket Company, American Giant, Craftsman, etc
From what I know, most American-made items are manufactured with "prison labor" which is an euphemism for slavery.
Ohh, well that's not good
Maybe I can pump another 10x out of my Crypto portfolio and retire early.
Good luck! And enjoy it if you can!
If everything works out okay yay.
If everything goes to shit republicans have nobody to blame because they have a majority everywhere and we can vote them out.
And the democrats got a wakeup call they can learn from (but they played the same 2016 tactics and got the same 2016 prize so we'll see if anything sticks next time)
They will always find someone to blame.
Minorities. Immigrants. Illegals. The poor. The middle class. Big tech. The economy. China. India. They will always find something.
Even if it's complete and total nonsense.
That assumes there are no shenanigans with those elections. I believe we will have them (edited to clarify: I believe we will have elections as well as election shenanigans.) We'll just have to see how fair they are.
Kinda hope people find out after fucking around so much
You think this might be a learning experience? For whom?
Republican voters
The torrent of lies and absurd statements should keep the rest of the world entertained. For most Americans, it’s probably going to be horrifying, tragic and/or embarrassing.
Edit: corrected the mess left behind by autocorrect
Sorry, but you guys stopped being fun to watch a while ago.
It's now gone well beyond train-wreck levels of horrified "can't look away" viewing.
Sorry I'm not native English. I'm failing to figure out what "entrained" means here?
It’s evidence of me swiping too fast and not reading the text three times before sending.
It happens, I do that sometimes
There is a possibility that Elno gets EVs mandated, or at least promoted to a greater extent. Of course this will only be for Tesla, but there would be a ripple effect on other brands.
That would be nice, electric drives nice imo
I thought you said "Elmo gets EVs mandated" and I was so confused for a second. x_x
My hope is that people really radicalize and realize that it takes others to really thrive and fight in a world/system/government built to neglect. I how people band together more and build stronger communities and practice mutual aid, etc. And that people learn what white supremacy really is...
We shall see, let's hope for a good outcome
I hope, so much, but with the way people in the red have been, "love your neighbor as yourself" is almost an exception rather than the rule it should be.
So we make it the rule in our circle, and hope people pass it on!
Let's hope for the best!
I don’t really see him living for another 4 years. I expect his diet, lack of exercise and excess of bike to kill him off; assuming some whackadoodle doesn’t get to him first.
That's not positive. But I see where you're coming from, he's old and not the healthiest.
Let's hope for the best
absolutely is a positive.
Now that's something great to look forward to
There's a chance that Musk has bought himself enough influence to turn conservatives on climate change. I don't know if I expect it, exactly, but there's a chance at a scenario where there is at least some progress there.
Granted Musk will mostly use it to enrich himself, but if he at least stops then from repealing green subsidies and the like, that's movement in the right direction.
What???
You know that nobody becomes a billionaire by giving a shit about anyone but themselves.
That's just it ... He's heavily invested in alternative energy...
Tesla makes electric cars, home and industrial battery packs, and rooftop solar. It's in his interest for Republicans to believe in climate change.
At the very least it's in his interest for Republicans to not squash electric cars and solar power.
You are delusional both about Musk and conservatives.
That is a bit of a conflict of interests between them, I had not thought of that. But perhaps you're right, that would be good progress!
There’s a lot of information floating around that SOUNDS good. Who knows what kind of things will happen honestly. At best, millions of people suffer and a portion of the population reaps the benefits. What decides how you’ll be affected is your tax bracket.
Let's hope that's going to be most people's tax bracket
My best guess is that now that people have fucked around, they'll soon find out. I believe a better world will eventually come into existence, but the transition is going to be slow, painful, and horrible for all of us.
I fully expect an incessant torrent of smug assholes on every corner of social media I go to alongside a never-ending stream of horror stories of all the shitty things that people are doing to other people.
I fail to see how this is positive?
What is there to be positive about?
Read the original question again
Nothing too drastic will occur. It never does. Tariffs will go up. Things will get more expensive. Rich people will be taxed less the middle class and poor people will be taxed more. There will be another wave of systemic racism perpetuating through American society.
Marijuana will become less legal. For some reason the Republicans still have a thing for weed...
The bottom line the man is 80 years old. It's very possible that he just may step down at some point, which would probably be worse in the long run.
Israel will get significantly more support to wage genocide and Ukraine will get significantly less support to defend their own country. Trump will push for some sort of concession that Ukraine will give up some of their land and enter into some kind of agreement that they won't request entry into NATO for a long period of time.
Longer prison sentences for relatively minor crimes...
Hardened anti-abortion rhetoric will continue to work against women simply trying to make medical decisions instead of potentially getting abortions.
Basically the same thing that's happening now in the country. Just more of it.
The question was about positive things
don't give a shit about MAGA but I'm all for MAHA with RFK Jr being on Trump's team, keeping an eye on him to see if he'll be able to take on the corrupt elements of Big Pharma and the FDA
Health is very important, heck yes!
Hilarious. Its gonna be great everything