Spyke

while we would all love this, hes too rich and too important to the US military to be subjected to actual regular-people laws. sorry.

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Kowowowreply
lemmy.ca

Just make him live out of the embassy

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Yeah, South African embassy will probably get some nice upgrades

Win - win ?

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Maybe there's a lesson there about not allowing individuals to amass that sort of power.

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lemmy.world

You guys understand that even the immigration system is pay-to-win, right? Regardless of what happens, I don't think Elon will have any issues.

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“individual of extraordinary abilities”

No, you are not allowed to lie in immigration application forms, it says so right in the title!

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While I don't disagree at all, even in many of these instances lying to immigration officials is a fast track to being denied entry ever again.

Obviously, Musk is going to get back in, but as a political pawn, kicking Musk out of the country being a legitimate option must be absolutely incredible.

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Yeah. Court couldn’t even issue a warrant today after he didn’t bother to show up. Wake me up when rich people face consequences.

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lemmy.world

Isn't that cute? They think that laws apply to billionaires.

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But liberty and justice is in the brainwash pledge that the kids have to do every day. It can't be a lie can it?

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

Without straight up ignoring the law in this case, which State Department is more than capable of doing, it's really not a different law.

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I'm actually not a cynic, an attitude mostly lazy and unthinking, but straight up ignoring conventions and laws is what the right has normalised.

Trump didn't go to jail for Jan 6th, and never will. The paycheck mob did tho.

"Go out there and fight like hell".

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lemmy.ml

Filthy rich, white. He gets the wag of the finger treatment and nothing worse. Just like Trump.

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

In this specific case? It comes down to a civil servant getting paid 80k a year. If they get his case file for review and they flag it then the government starts doing it's thing. Of course it will end up in court but a normal court can't do much about it. Which is how Elon's bestest buddies set it up. And once it's on his file that he lied in order to gain citizenship or residency he's straight up barred.

In other words, if he lied then it will take a literal act of congress to save his citizenship.

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lemmy.ml

I appreciate the wisdom of your words, but the past few years have planted me squarely in the camp of "I'll see it when I believe it" when it comes to any sort of consequence for powerful, wealthy Republicans.

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Oh yeah, there's always the possibility that despite the numerous articles on it the government just ignores him.

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Remember all those headlines saying things like 'Trump could be found guilty of violating emoluments clause?" Yeah, put this in the same bucket.

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Notyoureply
sopuli.xyz

Yeah the "could" is doing a lot of work for that headline.

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Thanks to Obama, Elon is theus governments special boy that can do what he wants

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That would explain partly why he's supporting Trump now.

Trump may have threatened to enforce it unless he complied

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Nothing's much gonna to happen to him... why?

First off, cuz he's a big "entrepreuner", a pro-western foreign policy guy, and a reactionary, which U.S always welcomes for their support of "freedom" and western civilization

Second, cuz he's a settler, he has citizenships in Canada and South Africa, to rely on, if the others fail

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lemmy.world

As funny as the thought is, they won't remove the CEO of Tesla, SpaceX, and X.

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troedreply
fedia.io

Tesla and X no one really cares about. SpaceX could get nationalized (!!!) though. Musk being cozy with Putin is already a problem for the US.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

Oh people care about Tesla, it's now an important domestic manufacturer. X is more appearance of a giant media or whatever you want to call it.

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I know that people like to throw that term around but, oh you're an ml user. Not gonna bother explaining the realities of that word.

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Given how his management decisions are impacting Tesla (pushing out buggy, dangerous “full self-driving”, cutting corners on quality, the whole Cybertruck thing, and associating the brand with his junior-sci-fi ideas long after anyone stopped thinking that he’s some kind of visionary technologist, to say nothing of the weird far-right turn and habit of impregnating employees), it could be argued that he’s strangling a company that otherwise had excellent potential, and that at this stage, it would have a better chance under other management. I’m not sure if, say, the suits at General Motors or Ford could have made as much of an impact with it as a subsidiary, but they’d have certainly killed the Cybertruck or at least made it more like a conventional SUV.

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Tesla could easily remove Musk as their head. In fact, lying to government officials and losing your citizenship would be probably the best rules anyone could ever have to oust someone.

SpaceX and Twitter are both private, though, so those are trickier.

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He lied on the form by checking the box for Alpha Male, when he's actually a beta. 🤦‍♂️

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lemmy.today

That's why he's helping trump. cuz if Kamala wins, she actually knows the laws, and she's gonna deport his ass.

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She probably wouldn’t have if he wasn’t making such a giant ass of himself.

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