Seriously, it's like everytime you have a jet ski party and someone has to go to the hospital, suddenly the news is saying he got shot. It's like 'ugggh', right?
I bet this was some sort of gen AI mishap: "translate this campaign text to Latin", because of course Latinos speak Latin, and it's called Latin America too!
Although this would be twice as hilarious if they hired a translator who just went "🤷 ah well, money is money"
“However, as Homeland always strives to be subversive in its own right and a stimulus for conversation, we can’t help but admire this act of artistic sabotage.”
Dude can't even admit the fact that they purposefully portray Muslim countries like that. What a shit bag.
The number of people in my town that think our language is American, Mexicans speak Mexican, all Asian people are Chinese, and any random combination of cities/countries are part of the United States makes this very plausible.
Like you could say American is a sub dialect of English with it further broken down into accents. But I doubt most folks think of it that way, especially folks who say "I speak American" outside of an argument with the English.
Democrats are much more likely to have a Spanish speaker on staff at all levels. They are a more diverse bunch. Republicans, many from southern states will speak some Spanish, more so than northern white democrats. But, they are more likely to he a white only staff at each level, so nobody would pick up on it.
This is part of the reason diversity is important. It will be self evident to some people that things are not right, whereas those in a different world won't even notice.
How the hell can you see this being put up by Democrats? What idiot messaging do they have that even comes close to the torrent of ignorant bullshit the republiQans swim in every moment of the day?
I don't know Latin and haven't taken Spanish for like 20 years, but would the first line translate to "Legal (my emphasis) Hispanics and Latinos"? Gotta love courting the votes of a demographic while still showing your bias against them.
Yep. I studied Latin and the "legales" is modifying the two nouns.
The first actually refers to residents of Hispania, so any classical Latin speaking immigrants from Spain and Portugal should feel included.
The second refers to the Latins, who were assimilated into the Roman (Trojan if believe the Aeneid) population and no longer exist.
Stylistically, I would have gone with the enclitic "-que" over the conjunctive "et."
EDIT: They messed up the verb. Well, I'm guessing they thought they were using a verb. The "vota" is the nominative plural of votum, so it reads "Votes for Trump."
They're not bright enough to know that the English verb "elect" derives from the perfect passive participle of "eligo, eligere" - electus.
They should have gone with "Eligite Trump!" - "Choose/Elect Trump!"
Basically I think though my latins rusty it reads like google translate in that the form seems wrong like someone transliterated English to Latin and ignored Latin grammar and logic in that Latin speaking people in Latin really doesn’t exist in the same way. Latini I think was only the subgroup of Latin speakers in Italy named Latium, either way not how a Roman Latin speaker would refer to a Latin speaker in general, not that the concept existed in the same way.
I know maga is dumb and all but I gotta imagine this is fake. No way they would actually know latin. That would only happen if they went to church as much as they pretend they do.
Kek. I'm reminded of when the Russian FSB supposedly caught Western spies in Russia. Among the incriminating evidence were several pirated copies of The Sims game. Presumably, the FSB goons were told to plant phone simcards at the scene but they misunderstood it to mean the PC game. As such, I am conjecturing that this billboard was designed by inept Russian or Indian online operatives.
The astroturfing is obscene on several levels of ignorance and artificiality, fake as the sincerity on a Nestlé ad, only more ignorant. "We don't and won't listen to a single Latino among us".
And still, I hear of Latinos gravitating towards this shit. It's like they've normalized living under bigoted oppression in places like Texas or Arizona, and/or fall for the "family values" catholic bias.
Or they come at it from some other batshit insane angle, referring to the orange plague of 2016-20 - "Funcionó! It worked!" and refusing to elaborate further, as if the case was obvious in some way that's utterly incomprehensible to me.
Plenty of people originary from South America have "old fashioned" values and principles (family, religion, homophobia, racism, expectations of a certain kind of "strong" "leader") which map into ideologies well into the Conservative Right in countries which already went through a moral liberalization stage, and in some cases they even hold pretty much Fascist "values" which would map very well into what Trump sells nowadays.
I live in Portugal, which nowadays manages to be more morally liberal that the US, at least amongst the younger generations (mostly because the US went backwards), were the greatest immigrant group are Brasilians (same language) and in the last two elections in Brasil the ones who voted from Portugal were far more pro-Bolsonaro than the ones living in Brasil, which puts them to the Right of the Portuguese Far-Right (which doesn't actually sell a return to a Fascist Dictatorship like Bolsonaro does, are pretty much mute on the subject of Religion and are comparativelly mild when it comes to Nationalism)
Similary when I lived in Britain during the Leave Referendum and worked in a Tech Startup in London, the only guy there who voted Brexit was a dual national British-Indian who, judging by things his kid let slip before daddy shut him up, was an Indian Nationalist (who had even attended a Military College as a kid in India).
Further, if I look at the immigrants that my own country sent abroad during its previous time of heavy emmigration (back in the 60s/70s) those are people who mainly had pretty backwards ("traditional") values compared to those of the countries they moved to, and who since then if they did not deeply integrate in their host country (which, as far as I can tell, having been an immigrant myself, is quite common amongst people who immigrated due to economic need rather than a yearning for broader horizons) have kept more or less calcified certain values that even in their country of origin people moved away from over time - in other words, not only do people come in from other countries with values which are "old fashioned" in more modern countries, but it's not at all uncommon for people who have been immigrated for decades still thinking in many ways like people in their country of origin did all those decades ago even though in the meanwhile their country of origin society has evolved away from that kind of thinking.
Very telling that they didn't have a single Latino person involved in this that could have told them this is wrong. And even if you don't speak Spanish, this would feel off to anybody with any sort of exposure to Latin American culture.
Honestly it's completely readable as someone who can understand Spanish, but it feels otherworldly for some reason, like I'm reading a quite not right version of Spanish, like reading Afrikaans to a Dutch speaker.
I'm not American, but I'm really surprised that some Americans don't know anything about Spanish. I mean, there are a lot of places in the U.S. with Spanish names, and it's easy to encounter Hispanic/Mexican culture if you live in places like L.A.
The US is massive and not nearly as well-mixed as people believe. If you don't happen to live in a spanish-heavy area, it's like a Russian that doesn't know Spanish - obviously some do, but I'm not at all surprised by those who don't.
Imagine, for example, being surprised that Catalonians are unfamiliar with Sami, or Swedes being unfamiliar with Maltese.
Population wise, too. Minnesota is different than California, or even our neighbors (north and South Dakota, Wisconsin and Iowa, Canada to the north,).
Hell. The Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St Paul) are very different and we can lob insults across the river.
...so the fact that the US is large somehow explains how that sign got through its entire chain of production and deployment without anyone realising that Latino people don't speak Latin?
I’m not American, but I’m really surprised that some Americans don’t know anything about Spanish.
having a lot of Latinos in one place doesn't mean there's a lot elsewhere, or that the people who made the sign are even anywhere close to familiar with any sort of Latino culture... for example, in Minnesota, there's a large number of Puerto Ricans in St Paul. if you drove forty minutes out west, you're not going to see that. Same goes with the Somali influence in Cedar Riverside, or the Hmong neighborhoods.
as for the sign... the people who actually made the sign don't give a flying rat's ass what's on it. A client sends them a picture or something, they print it, and send it out. If anyone even actually looked at it. It could have been an entirely automated service like vistaprint or whoever.
its like the bakers that put "just say 'Happy Birthday' in rainbow icing letters" on the cake. they're not paid enough to care what they're actually printing.
Which means the only people who probably who really needed to fail to understand the distinction is... the people that ordered it. And when you're talking about somebody who probably hung that up on their fence... there's not a "chain" of people involved.
as for the sign… the people who actually made the sign don’t give a flying rat’s ass what’s on it.
Pre-press is part of my job. I care about the quality of the art and whether or not the text prints correctly. I send a proof to the client after I've checked those thing, and they verify that the text, etc. is correct, that we have the correct size, material, and so on. If someone sends me artwork that's going to end up printing at 26dpi, then I'm going to let them know that it's going to look bad. If they send raster text that they've blown up 5x and is all bitmappy, I'm gonna let them know that they need to fix that.
If the text is in Latin rather than Spanish? Not my concern.
In my own experience inside political parties (granted, small ones in Europe rather than a big US one) is that actual merit is almost never how people are selected for most responsabilities, especially at a local level.
You're not going to get the same quality of work out of people who basically volunteered to do something or got picked because they're mates of the guy or gal running the local party office, and are doing it for free, than you would get when the necessary skills are determined, an advert for a PAID position is posted with those skills and from the candidates responding to it one is selected via a half-way decent interview process.
Judging by the looks of that poster that's very much an amateur job done by a local voluntary, not something created at national level where it's more likely (at least for big parties, not so much for smaller ones) that people are actually employed and were properly selected to do it (not that there's not plenty of cronyism at national level in political parties, but that's not usually for what are seen as "lowly" "auxiliary" positions in a Political Party such as a Graphics Designer position would).
Then, of course, on top of that comes the "small detail" that the average level of formal Education and even breadth of Life Experience is significantly lower in the Far Right, so the average Republic Party amateur is more ignorant at all levels than the average Democrat Party amateur.
Yup. Europe is only slightly larger. And that’s europe, not the EU. Europe on the whole is significantly denser in population, though.
If you want to compare direct numbers, the EU has ~450 million to the Us’s ~350 million and 3.9 million (or cia’s fact book, 4.2) km^2 compared to 9.8 million km^2.
The other countries that are similar are India, china and Russia.
Well, there are people with different roots from all over the world. The fewest of us are actually native american, so I think everyone has their culture and embraces that on his own wish. Then we all come together in the middle to create American culture.
I know it's not the way it works and this sounds like racism doesn't exist in the US or something which is of course utter bullshit. This is the way I think how it should be done and how I practice it myself. I actually know a bit of Spanish and dipped my toe already in Mexican culture, but I'm not going to study and embrace it because it's not my particular culture, just as I am not expecting an Hispanic person to study and embrace my culture. In the end I don't think about culture a lot. I like cool and interesring people, cool and interesting music and of course good food. In total I just want to have a good time and I am happy to encounter parts of anyone's culture in a natural way were I can explore things more like an adventure and less like a chore
Now I'm picturing a racist candidate from another part of the world trying to appeal to the white minority via Anglo Saxon language and imagery billboards 😄🤦
With the Hispanic people I know that prefer Trump, it's the usual trumpist/Republican reasoning. Even down to anti-immigration, from a person who's father was an undocumented immigrant. Propaganda and desire to be in the in-group among your peers is wild.
i guess i'm probably just most confused by the fact that people would vote for trump at all lol
You, me. The entire sane world.
It’s truly perplexing why most these people would vote for the guy. Or even donate to his political campaign since he brags about not needing donations…(and his lawyers fees… yesh.)
yeah, idk, one of the mysteries of our age, bound to be present until the end of time. Until someone covers it in a significant historical context that is.
the fear of socialism is the only good one i can think of, but often times these people are coming from authoritarian type countries or places, i've heard theories that they leave the persecution, only to desire it once more upon leaving, hence the voting for trump. We've seen similar things with east germany, after they reunited there was an interesting problem with "self determination" people are generally happier with less choices, weirdly enough.
i doubt religion is significant, but maybe they just don't understand the US government structure. That's my other theory, they just don't understand how the government works at all, and end up picking the bad candidate.
Maybe the small business owner thing, but are these people more likely to own small businesses? i'm not sure, i think most of them would be in the labor economy, education or something else. Rather than entrepreneurship.
Covfefe Diem, imperator!
Covfefe is Classical Latin, not Vulgar Latin which is what the plebeians speak.
Same energy, different target demographic.
That address redirects to I think three different sites without HTTPS and then it ends up on some webhosting site
Uh-oh, it’s one of those websites
Not weird at all. Totally normal website made by a totally normal person.
Seriously, it's like everytime you have a jet ski party and someone has to go to the hospital, suddenly the news is saying he got shot. It's like 'ugggh', right?
Why do these websites always read like a bottle of Dr.Bronner?
Dr Bronner's insane ramblings are at least wholesome though
...where the police promptly shot him?
Probably, actually.
Why is all of this written so completely stupidly?
Thank you for putting me on to where goes :)
Means they stopped paying for their domain and some ad squatter picked it up
Gods 1 was way better.
Into the wonderful
It's from 2016...I would have been surprised if it still worked.
It works fine for me, although maybe OP fixed it?
Nah. That website is probably just hosted on a Pentium 2 and it struggles to host 10 active sessions.
I bet this was some sort of gen AI mishap: "translate this campaign text to Latin", because of course Latinos speak Latin, and it's called Latin America too!
Although this would be twice as hilarious if they hired a translator who just went "🤷 ah well, money is money"
or just scrolling through a drop down list of languages and saw Latin before Spanish.
Well, they ARE LATINos, not SPANISHos, silly
Genuinely giggling to myself over the pronunciation as spuh-NEE-shohs
Probably a Latini...
Anyways, this reminds me when the series Homeland filmed at a location that was supposed to be a syrian refugee camp and hired arab speaking graffiti artists to "add authenticity" and they wrote things like "Homeland is racist" and "BlackLivesMatter" and shit like it instead of the requested "Pro -Assad" messages... https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/15/homeland-is-racist-artists-subversive-graffiti-tv-show
Dude can't even admit the fact that they purposefully portray Muslim countries like that. What a shit bag.
What a dipshit, using a dead language for a dead campaign.
This can't be real. I mean . . it very much can be real, but c'mon. Somebody's just fucking with us right
Republican ideology natural selects dipshit
Latin America. What else are the gonna speak?
America-n, dumbass
(/s)
Oh absolutely. I can see it happening for sure. But did it? Is this real?
I'm thinking it's not. Just a goof being presented as a real thing.
As somebody far enough from any America, I got a few healthy recreational grunting laughs from this.
The number of people in my town that think our language is American, Mexicans speak Mexican, all Asian people are Chinese, and any random combination of cities/countries are part of the United States makes this very plausible.
Oh its possible, sure. But is it real or a prank?
The fact that we have to ask is scary enough
Sure, but we’ve been in this timeline since the Escalator Ride to Hell so it’s not, like, that unusual.
Heck, Pizzagate was a no-shit, for real thing these chowderheads yapped about for years. Maybe still do.
Like you could say American is a sub dialect of English with it further broken down into accents. But I doubt most folks think of it that way, especially folks who say "I speak American" outside of an argument with the English.
You do have a few Saint-Petersburgs, right? And Athens? And Cairos?
Similar to Russia then.
Similar to Russia then.
Still similar to Russia.
The problem is I can see it being real and I can see it being put up by either campaign
Democrats are much more likely to have a Spanish speaker on staff at all levels. They are a more diverse bunch. Republicans, many from southern states will speak some Spanish, more so than northern white democrats. But, they are more likely to he a white only staff at each level, so nobody would pick up on it.
This is part of the reason diversity is important. It will be self evident to some people that things are not right, whereas those in a different world won't even notice.
Whoever put the sign up, all it did was confuse the shit out of anyone who knows at least one romance language.
How the hell can you see this being put up by Democrats? What idiot messaging do they have that even comes close to the torrent of ignorant bullshit the republiQans swim in every moment of the day?
Not the party, but it falls very in line with the current “whether or not this is true, they seem the type” attacks such as the couch fucker memes
I see the couch memes as an extension of "I can see Russia from my house" memes.
Romanes eunt domus
People called Romanes they go the house?
It says, "Romans go home!"
No it doesn't!
Romani ite domum!
Now write that 100 times!
Is it just me that wants to vandalize the Billboard with "Romanes eunt domus"
People called Romanes, they go the house?
Not “Sic semper tyrannis”?
If you'd do that I'd want to correct your terrible grammer!
Now, write it 100 times, or I'll cut your bollocks off.
Only Latin he needs is sic semper tyrannis
Get your foot off my neck
I don't know Latin and haven't taken Spanish for like 20 years, but would the first line translate to "Legal (my emphasis) Hispanics and Latinos"? Gotta love courting the votes of a demographic while still showing your bias against them.
Yep. I studied Latin and the "legales" is modifying the two nouns.
The first actually refers to residents of Hispania, so any classical Latin speaking immigrants from Spain and Portugal should feel included.
The second refers to the Latins, who were assimilated into the Roman (Trojan if believe the Aeneid) population and no longer exist.
Stylistically, I would have gone with the enclitic "-que" over the conjunctive "et."
EDIT: They messed up the verb. Well, I'm guessing they thought they were using a verb. The "vota" is the nominative plural of votum, so it reads "Votes for Trump."
They're not bright enough to know that the English verb "elect" derives from the perfect passive participle of "eligo, eligere" - electus.
They should have gone with "Eligite Trump!" - "Choose/Elect Trump!"
Basically I think though my latins rusty it reads like google translate in that the form seems wrong like someone transliterated English to Latin and ignored Latin grammar and logic in that Latin speaking people in Latin really doesn’t exist in the same way. Latini I think was only the subgroup of Latin speakers in Italy named Latium, either way not how a Roman Latin speaker would refer to a Latin speaker in general, not that the concept existed in the same way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latium
It’s kind of like translating Japanese directly into English, reads off if you say in the room there are many chair in English kinda deal.
No way this is real lmaoo
I almost have tears in my eyes.
Also a bit reminiscent of Johnny de Vito in "Romancing the stone"
Trump pro imperatore MMXXIV
Hoc comment me fecit rideat
I know maga is dumb and all but I gotta imagine this is fake. No way they would actually know latin. That would only happen if they went to church as much as they pretend they do.
The more likely scenario is that some staffer used Google translate, and thought that Latin means the language of the Latinos.
Google translate says the bottom line is Czech. LMAO
Could be identical in both languages.
It isnt
bruh google translate
Kek. I'm reminded of when the Russian FSB supposedly caught Western spies in Russia. Among the incriminating evidence were several pirated copies of The Sims game. Presumably, the FSB goons were told to plant phone simcards at the scene but they misunderstood it to mean the PC game. As such, I am conjecturing that this billboard was designed by inept Russian or Indian online operatives.
Y'know I could see this being done by a third party in an attempt to portray the GOP as not caring about Hispanics (Not that they do care lol)
They would be heroes, this is amazing if so
This also is amazing if it’s the GOP…
Just a different sort of amazing…
Finally, a candidate that is pro-opera.
Bad news: they're pro Repo! The Genetic Opera
I always thought the repossession industry was more of a financial opera.
Then don't watch the Genetic one 😂
Bottom text does seem like informal portuguese, so progressive
Sic Transit Racism.
The astroturfing is obscene on several levels of ignorance and artificiality, fake as the sincerity on a Nestlé ad, only more ignorant. "We don't and won't listen to a single Latino among us".
And still, I hear of Latinos gravitating towards this shit. It's like they've normalized living under bigoted oppression in places like Texas or Arizona, and/or fall for the "family values" catholic bias.
Or they come at it from some other batshit insane angle, referring to the orange plague of 2016-20 - "Funcionó! It worked!" and refusing to elaborate further, as if the case was obvious in some way that's utterly incomprehensible to me.
Plenty of people originary from South America have "old fashioned" values and principles (family, religion, homophobia, racism, expectations of a certain kind of "strong" "leader") which map into ideologies well into the Conservative Right in countries which already went through a moral liberalization stage, and in some cases they even hold pretty much Fascist "values" which would map very well into what Trump sells nowadays.
I live in Portugal, which nowadays manages to be more morally liberal that the US, at least amongst the younger generations (mostly because the US went backwards), were the greatest immigrant group are Brasilians (same language) and in the last two elections in Brasil the ones who voted from Portugal were far more pro-Bolsonaro than the ones living in Brasil, which puts them to the Right of the Portuguese Far-Right (which doesn't actually sell a return to a Fascist Dictatorship like Bolsonaro does, are pretty much mute on the subject of Religion and are comparativelly mild when it comes to Nationalism)
Similary when I lived in Britain during the Leave Referendum and worked in a Tech Startup in London, the only guy there who voted Brexit was a dual national British-Indian who, judging by things his kid let slip before daddy shut him up, was an Indian Nationalist (who had even attended a Military College as a kid in India).
Further, if I look at the immigrants that my own country sent abroad during its previous time of heavy emmigration (back in the 60s/70s) those are people who mainly had pretty backwards ("traditional") values compared to those of the countries they moved to, and who since then if they did not deeply integrate in their host country (which, as far as I can tell, having been an immigrant myself, is quite common amongst people who immigrated due to economic need rather than a yearning for broader horizons) have kept more or less calcified certain values that even in their country of origin people moved away from over time - in other words, not only do people come in from other countries with values which are "old fashioned" in more modern countries, but it's not at all uncommon for people who have been immigrated for decades still thinking in many ways like people in their country of origin did all those decades ago even though in the meanwhile their country of origin society has evolved away from that kind of thinking.
He’s really crossed the rubicon now…
Alea iacta est
The united states delenda est
Very telling that they didn't have a single Latino person involved in this that could have told them this is wrong. And even if you don't speak Spanish, this would feel off to anybody with any sort of exposure to Latin American culture.
stultus stultus est
Et tu, Pence?
Honestly it's completely readable as someone who can understand Spanish, but it feels otherworldly for some reason, like I'm reading a quite not right version of Spanish, like reading Afrikaans to a Dutch speaker.
As someone who understands English, this is how I feel when Trump tries to speak English.
No is not. Sourcev I'm spanish
nmms es fácil leerlo we
...Acabas de escribir "guey" como "we"?
Lo escribí en una manera k quería, si claro, cómo así lol
Sim concordo com você, mas no mesmo tempo... Não
Another, Four Seasons Total Landscaping. What a bunch of weird idiots.
Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your vote
ad kalendas Graecas
Tlazcala delenda est?
trumpus ite domum
I didn't know Latins were big Opera enjoyers.
It’s the webbrowser of their choice.
Cui bono?
Bono is the lead singer of U2
Google says the bottom line is Czech. 🤷♀️🤣
I'm not American, but I'm really surprised that some Americans don't know anything about Spanish. I mean, there are a lot of places in the U.S. with Spanish names, and it's easy to encounter Hispanic/Mexican culture if you live in places like L.A.
The US is massive and not nearly as well-mixed as people believe. If you don't happen to live in a spanish-heavy area, it's like a Russian that doesn't know Spanish - obviously some do, but I'm not at all surprised by those who don't.
in terms of land-area, the us is closer to Europe than any single European country.
Imagine, for example, being surprised that Catalonians are unfamiliar with Sami, or Swedes being unfamiliar with Maltese.
Population wise, too. Minnesota is different than California, or even our neighbors (north and South Dakota, Wisconsin and Iowa, Canada to the north,).
Hell. The Twin Cities (Minneapolis and St Paul) are very different and we can lob insults across the river.
...so the fact that the US is large somehow explains how that sign got through its entire chain of production and deployment without anyone realising that Latino people don't speak Latin?
No. it explains this:
having a lot of Latinos in one place doesn't mean there's a lot elsewhere, or that the people who made the sign are even anywhere close to familiar with any sort of Latino culture... for example, in Minnesota, there's a large number of Puerto Ricans in St Paul. if you drove forty minutes out west, you're not going to see that. Same goes with the Somali influence in Cedar Riverside, or the Hmong neighborhoods.
as for the sign... the people who actually made the sign don't give a flying rat's ass what's on it. A client sends them a picture or something, they print it, and send it out. If anyone even actually looked at it. It could have been an entirely automated service like vistaprint or whoever.
its like the bakers that put "just say 'Happy Birthday' in rainbow icing letters" on the cake. they're not paid enough to care what they're actually printing.
Which means the only people who probably who really needed to fail to understand the distinction is... the people that ordered it. And when you're talking about somebody who probably hung that up on their fence... there's not a "chain" of people involved.
Pre-press is part of my job. I care about the quality of the art and whether or not the text prints correctly. I send a proof to the client after I've checked those thing, and they verify that the text, etc. is correct, that we have the correct size, material, and so on. If someone sends me artwork that's going to end up printing at 26dpi, then I'm going to let them know that it's going to look bad. If they send raster text that they've blown up 5x and is all bitmappy, I'm gonna let them know that they need to fix that.
If the text is in Latin rather than Spanish? Not my concern.
In my own experience inside political parties (granted, small ones in Europe rather than a big US one) is that actual merit is almost never how people are selected for most responsabilities, especially at a local level.
You're not going to get the same quality of work out of people who basically volunteered to do something or got picked because they're mates of the guy or gal running the local party office, and are doing it for free, than you would get when the necessary skills are determined, an advert for a PAID position is posted with those skills and from the candidates responding to it one is selected via a half-way decent interview process.
Judging by the looks of that poster that's very much an amateur job done by a local voluntary, not something created at national level where it's more likely (at least for big parties, not so much for smaller ones) that people are actually employed and were properly selected to do it (not that there's not plenty of cronyism at national level in political parties, but that's not usually for what are seen as "lowly" "auxiliary" positions in a Political Party such as a Graphics Designer position would).
Then, of course, on top of that comes the "small detail" that the average level of formal Education and even breadth of Life Experience is significantly lower in the Far Right, so the average Republic Party amateur is more ignorant at all levels than the average Democrat Party amateur.
LA to NYC is roughly the same distance as Lisbon to Moscow
Yup. Europe is only slightly larger. And that’s europe, not the EU. Europe on the whole is significantly denser in population, though.
If you want to compare direct numbers, the EU has ~450 million to the Us’s ~350 million and 3.9 million (or cia’s fact book, 4.2) km^2 compared to 9.8 million km^2.
The other countries that are similar are India, china and Russia.
Well, there are people with different roots from all over the world. The fewest of us are actually native american, so I think everyone has their culture and embraces that on his own wish. Then we all come together in the middle to create American culture.
I know it's not the way it works and this sounds like racism doesn't exist in the US or something which is of course utter bullshit. This is the way I think how it should be done and how I practice it myself. I actually know a bit of Spanish and dipped my toe already in Mexican culture, but I'm not going to study and embrace it because it's not my particular culture, just as I am not expecting an Hispanic person to study and embrace my culture. In the end I don't think about culture a lot. I like cool and interesring people, cool and interesting music and of course good food. In total I just want to have a good time and I am happy to encounter parts of anyone's culture in a natural way were I can explore things more like an adventure and less like a chore
Caecilius est in horto
Are implying doctors who wear hardhats can't be latino?
Now I'm picturing a racist candidate from another part of the world trying to appeal to the white minority via Anglo Saxon language and imagery billboards 😄🤦
et
It’ll probably work. Most Hispanic people I’ve met that vote love Trump.
why? Is it the usual trumpist reasoning? Or something else.
With the Hispanic people I know that prefer Trump, it's the usual trumpist/Republican reasoning. Even down to anti-immigration, from a person who's father was an undocumented immigrant. Propaganda and desire to be in the in-group among your peers is wild.
yeah that makes sense i suppose. What a weird timeline to live in hey?
Latinos themselves are not a very cohesive group.
Many are die-hard Catholics. Many fled from Cuba and will vote against anything that looks like communism.
But that’s far from all Latinos, or even all Cuban immigrants.
It’s important to not lump everyone together.
hm, that makes sense with what i've heard so far, so i guess that shouldn't surprise me.
i guess i'm probably just most confused by the fact that people would vote for trump at all lol
You, me. The entire sane world.
It’s truly perplexing why most these people would vote for the guy. Or even donate to his political campaign since he brags about not needing donations…(and his lawyers fees… yesh.)
yeah, idk, one of the mysteries of our age, bound to be present until the end of time. Until someone covers it in a significant historical context that is.
I have no idea. Fear of “socialism”? Religion? The myth that republicans are good for small business owners?
the fear of socialism is the only good one i can think of, but often times these people are coming from authoritarian type countries or places, i've heard theories that they leave the persecution, only to desire it once more upon leaving, hence the voting for trump. We've seen similar things with east germany, after they reunited there was an interesting problem with "self determination" people are generally happier with less choices, weirdly enough.
i doubt religion is significant, but maybe they just don't understand the US government structure. That's my other theory, they just don't understand how the government works at all, and end up picking the bad candidate.
Maybe the small business owner thing, but are these people more likely to own small businesses? i'm not sure, i think most of them would be in the labor economy, education or something else. Rather than entrepreneurship.
And that's good