‘Evangelicals For Harris’ Drops Brutal Ad Questioning If Trump is a ‘False Prophet’
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"Maybe we shouldn't be worshipping this golden calf..."
This was at CPAC in 2021. I thought it was satire. It was not.
He kinda looks like Vault Boy in this depiction.
I like this picture of him and Vault Boy together.
The better timeline.
iirc, made in Mexico
That or China, like most of the shit he sells.
Good ol' American capitalism. You're welcome! Pleasure doing business with ya
Ah, so that would be one year before this:
He would never wear that. Can’t wear risers in flip flops.
That is such a good analogy, how did I never hear of that against "prophet Trump"?
how did you miss this?
I thought it was a golden toilet...
It was written
So skibidi
He might just be the antichrist...
I'm gonna leave this here.
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/#google_vignette
He doesn’t fulfill all the requirements. He’s just one of many false prophets, there are many antichrists.
It also doesn’t make it not a real thing. There’s no point in wasting your time arguing it, or mine for that matter. We won’t agree.
You’re just speaking the truth
Imagine if you were at work, let’s say at an engineering company, and you had a guy who really believe that tiny fairies are actually what lift planes.
They are invisible and seem to function exactly like the science of how lift works.
Imagine this coworker and how ridiculous it would be to tolerate such fantasies.
That’s what religious people are doing and expecting is to take seriously. Literally they are talking about super fairy tales all of which has no data, nothing backing it but their unreliable personal experience and just “knowing”.
I've been waiting for some big Christian group to come out against him for years and I'm thrilled it's finally happening.
Unfortunately the ad itself was a bit disappointing...not quite as brutal as the title would have you believe
Yeah, nothing brutal about Trump being Trump and then some Bible quote. Every single quote in the good book is against someone like Trump.
They should have put the relevant quotes about the antichrist under each video of him exhibiting said characteristic
This is more on the right track for how to de-cult people like Trump. Need more anti-Trump conspiracy theories and weirdo prophecies to get through to the crazies.
Every country has their 10% crazies. You don't need their votes to govern. Please focus on the 90% with good policy instead of normalizing idiot conspiracy theories.
I've heard it's 30% so it should be the same. Except in the US only 50-60 percent of people vote so suddenly it is an issue.
I’d also bet that it’s more than 30% in the US
I see it as in the 40s but not close to 50. Then again, how many of them take those poll tests?
The crazies are the ones who show up to launch a coup attempt at the Capitol.
What if those 90% split into 45% and 45%? Then you need those 10% crazies to govern.
I was raised religious and boy oh boy, let me tell ya, this guy ticks off so many checkboxes is not even a competition. Peak false prophet/antichrist criteria.
The only thing more convincing would be if his name was Mark Ofdabeest.
Nice.
I'm an atheist but if anybody got the bill for anti-christ it's this guy.
He is literally the Seven Deadly Sins mooshed into a fat suit.
Having been raised in a Catholic country and a fairly conservative parish, I truly don't understand the Christian votes for Trump
America has two christianities. And not in the normal “Protestants and Catholics are on the verge of another 30 years war at each other” way. But regardless of denomination we have groups of Christian’s who see Christianity not as a set of beliefs and duties but as an in group and tool to persecute those they don’t like. Trump is the guy who tells them that the reason things are bad is those dirty non Christians (which many American Protestants include Catholics in for some gods forsaken reason). He offers them power in exchange for looking the other way from his sins
The scary thing is that he didn’t invent that concept. It has been raging since before the Satanic Panic. He just gave those people a platform.
Yup. This goes back to the Southern strategy which was brought to the fore by the Nixon campaign (although it was in play since before then). From that era we also get this chilling warning from Barry Goldwater:
Yeah I don’t want to say it’s an inevitable result of the bizarre fusion of Calvinism and Baptists that permeates American Protestant culture, but it certainly feels like that fusion has a strong lean in this direction.
There have been a lot of good books in the last few years about how Christian came to be so culturally interchangable with Republican. One I read and got a lot out of was "Jesus & John Wayne", and the author does a good job tracking the rightward shift from a lot of different organizations and how they were able to permeate through multiple denominations. Just sharing in case anyone wants to go look at some of these connections themselves.
As long time atheist and anti-theist, they love Trump because he's fulfilling a role of messiah (lowercase), an anointed one. You probably already know this, but it basically means that Trump is a king to them, that's what the anointed part is about. They're traditionalists (monarchists).
If you want to get how monarchism works in this context, try Wilhoit's Law: https://slate.com/business/2022/06/wilhoits-law-conservatives-frank-wilhoit.html
And the Catholics in the US are likely to get in on the action, as evidenced by the Supreme Court and the people who made that happen. There's also a bunch of drama going on between them and the Pope.
You know it's serious when even the cults change prophets.
Biblically, there isn’t an antichrist. It’s not a proper noun, there’s not just one. Most Americans’ understanding of eschatology comes straight from Left Behind (and further back, Scofield), which has little connection to the actual text. (The number of Christians who refer to RevelationS, when the tittle of the text has no “s”….)
And I’d say Trump is definitely “anti-Christ.”
1 John 2:18 uses it both as a proper noun and as a generic noun, and nowadays "Antichrist" is more a colloquial name for the first beast of Revelation 13 even if that's not directly what the text clearly calls him.
Regardless, I agree Trump is very anti-Christ. Hard to read 1 John 4 and not see almost the opposite of him.
As someone who was traumatized by reading the entire Left Behind series at roughly 8, it’s very upsetting to see how happy the evangelical Christian’s that have spent the last attacking LGBT people based on faith have fallen behind a serial philanderer who has very likely raped children. They threat him like a golden calf.
Then again, I don’t know how one could read things like “when I was hungry you fed me” and vote against free school lunches or cutting EBT. I don’t believe in the divinity of Christ or any supernatural powers, but I don’t see how they don’t understand that they are acting like the “chaff.”
There was an article a while a go where someone looked into how the bible describes the anti-christ and while they initially did it just for fun, it became a bit more eerie, when Trump started hitting checkbox after checkbox after checkbox, leaving out pretty much none of them…
It's almost as if vague ramblings of a first century commoner (who was likely tripping balls) could be applied to any and every megalomaniacal tyrant we've ever had.
It was originally written about Nero.
IIRC the funny thing was actually that no, this wasn’t just generic enough to cover every megalomaniacal tyrant but was in some places actually oddly specific.
Something about the "7 hills with the antichrist's name" oddly aligned with the 7 current buildings around the world with his name in big bold letters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnum_effect
Are you referring to this?
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
Yes, that looks like it!
I can't think of a time in my Internet life when "Well, duh" was so often the most appropriate response to so many posts.
if? lol
Everyone running for president today is some combination of Hitler, Jesus, Lincoln, or Pol Pot.
That's the most idiotic thing I've heard in a very long time. You should be proud of how profoundly stupid your comment is.
That is quite an accomplishment!
Approx 0% of each? Could be technically correct!
Is there a missing /s here? I think we're all missing something because this seems unlike you.
He’s a convicted felon, rapist, and con man.
Ok well better late than never, I guess, that Christians start pointing out how un-christian Trump is. But I doubt they'll connect the rest of the dots and reject the cruelty of conservatism altogether
My evangelical family members seem to be as enthusiastic about Trump as ever. What has changed over the past weeks is that they are no longer sure he's going to win.
I have family that believe trump is necessary for Christianity to win and that I and my step-siblings are only safe because they are intervening for us. This is in central Ohio from evangelicals.
Now ask them if Christianity winning means purposefully bringing upon the end times.
The thought previously crossed my mind, but I don't think that's what they're going for and don't want to put any more strain on that relationship (people are more likely to be un-radicalized when family don't just pretend they no longer exist and I'd rather not create more conflict without a clear purpose and push them further into extremism).
This is such a nuanced and intelligent comment, i almost forgot i was on the internet. Kudos
Dude is a spot on representation of their antichrist. Not that trump is anything other than a pathetic dipshit.
On the one hand I really don't want their support or misguided views and priorities distracting or pushing Harris off course.
On the other hand fracturing a significant slice of the conservative base into not voting or voting against Trump would be delicious, especially if it meant more congressional and state seats to go blue because of it.
I thought he was literally anti-christ, but I guess false prophet isn't inaccurate.
No it's usually the democratic candidates/presidents who are called the anti-christ.
From the article: "TRMP"
Wake up babe. A new tetragrammaton just dropped.
Is false profit and Antichrist the same thing?
Basically yes? Antichrist is pluralized in the Bible in places and thus is not necessarily one individual. The false Prophets are described similarly.
Most of the pop culture picture of the Antichrist as a more singular entity is more like the Thessalonians "the man of sin"... Also known as the Man of Lawlessness, Apostasy, Insurrection, rebellion... One particularly agregious Antichrist that Jesus himself must come down and take out with a breath that exposes his naked wickedness to the worshipping masses who will realize that they are not among the saved. It's sometimes interpreted that this kicks off the second coming but it doesn't actually say that... It just says it happens sometime before the end of days which could mean it's distinctly apart from and not feature of the revelation. Like some kind of Jesus warm up cameo.
Really its kind of tempting to paint Trump and Evengelicals in that role. He wouldn't be the first nasty to wrap himself up in an altar cloth.
Biblical false prophet = competitor cult preacher that would compete with Jesus
Walter, Martin, the man in black, flagg, the walking dude, antichrists, all of them
Nah false profit is when you cook the books. Dont know what that has to do with the antichrist.
Did you ever vote for Trump?
No, I was 16 in 2016 and already fucking hated him and I voted for Biden in 2020. Anyways I was making a joke about your misspelling, you wrote profit which has to do with economics rather than prophet which has to do with religious and supernatural shit.
I… get the joke now. 🤦♂️
Hey its not the worst word to get mixed up. Theyre barsly distinct in my accent with only a slightly harder T in profit being the notable difference. But then again I say wader so perhaps I aint the most valid example.
There aren’t places they aren’t full homophones?
Nah, I knew a dude with a real fucked up accent whos ph and f sounds were different. He was from real rural Arkansas and was old as dirt.
At first I was annoyed, until I realized "drop" is an antagonym.
False profit for damn sure
Link directly to the ad please. Mediaite is a piece of shite.
The ad is on Twitter and Mediaite embeds the tweet, so it's not like that would be any better.
Ooh, can't wait for MAGA for Harris 🤭
Well duh
It's a good thing I guess but a 'prophet'? Is that what these people believe? He's a dangerous, sleazy grifter. Always has been, always will be.
The point of a "false prophet" is that they claim to speak for/act in the name of God for their own (evil) ends. False prophets are the highest tier of grifter in a religious context.
I know what you're saying but I truly can't truly understand their way of thinking. I guess it's the brainwashing they get starting at like age 1.
We are all the products of the universe that created us. To understand them you have to first understand yourself, why you believe what you believe, and then understand that they lived a life that furnished them with their beliefs. But that will only get you halfway, as you will begin to understand them but that does not extend both ways; they will still not understand you. That will take considerably more effort.
Yes, they believe it. They believe worse. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60246687-president-donald-j-trump-the-son-of-man---the-christ
God is testing us... /s
He's one of the horses that the 4 horsemen are riding. And he's jumping the republicans as hard and fast as he can. It's not how long you make it, is how you make it long. Unfortunately for him, he's basically flat and smooth down there. One would get more pleasure from someone rubbing a pimple between their republican butts. Meanwhile the true horseman has made their move invisibly. But the move is visible, we have judges who don't have our backs, we have laws that diminished the Rights of women, LGBTQA and other minorities. Where's the horseman? We know where trump is but he's so dumb he couldn't plan breakfast, much less cause laws.
...what?
Word salad boils down to:
We see what trump does because he’s the puppet
There’s lots working in the background, other puppets weakening rights for women, voters, etc
Who is the puppet master?
Putin + other shithead billionaires would be my guess
What, did he say something remotely tolerant?
Chickens for KFC
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