Seriously, is this supposed to be deterring people? Who looks at any of those and thinks they're a bad thing, except for oil executives, corporate investors, landlords and the ultra-rich?
Remember that time when Fox News popped up a list of AOC's goals, then realized that their viewers might actually be in favor of them and took it down.
What's kind of strange is this one. It sounds good, but aren't those what we call "technocrats?" I don't know enough to say whether I think it's good or bad, but I know people talk about that as if it is bad.
Comservatives hate taxes. They complain that the left is entitled and then bitch and moan when they have to actually pay their share for the services they use. Nothing will get them more fired up than hating on taxes even if you show them just how vile and expensive the private version is.
“I earned that money(all by myself and at no point did I use any tax-funded infrastructure no not me not never).”
But that’s another way to funnel public funds into private coffers. They’re all about that. Like private prisons! Maybe there should be a prison voucher system now that I think about it. Ugg
A libertarian "sovereign citizen" is absolutely peak conservative entitlement. "I should have all the benefits of society while putting nothing that I don't feel like back in."
Single payer Medicare for all I think has been an idea considered to get us incrementally closer to a publicly funded option for all like federal employees like senators and reps currently have. If it's good enough for those citizens it should be good enough for all citizens, but getting there has been awful because oligarchs won't fund a campaign based on real public healthcare reform and political parties dump candidates who don't get money.
Republican voters: For some YES! but also there's a fuckton of propaganda aimed at them like... (checks notes) Newsmax for one... They're manipulated into believing these are bad things :/
First of all, screw Trump and J.D. Vance, their policies are awful. There's no way they're earning my vote, so it's either going to be Harris (who I very much disagree with) or a third party protest vote. I'll be watching the campaign to decide which it's going to be, though my vote doesn't really matter because my state is most likely going to Trump by 20%+ spread unless there are more anti-vaxxers than I thought in my state.
That said, I disagree with most of those policies, but I don't think they're things that should scare you from voting for her, I just think they're bad policies. For example:
corporate tax
Corporations aren't people, they're legal structures made up of people. Instead of raising the corporate tax, I think we should be taxing people, not entities.
The intent here is to target wealthy people, so we should instead tax stock options at fair market value immediately upon issue, with perhaps an exemption on the first $20k or so of stock options (or perhaps to non-highly compensated employees) or if it is deposited directly into a workplace retirement account (but it would count toward the max). That would target one of the major ways the super-wealthy avoid taxes. A high corporate tax just encourages more creative accounting (e.g. here's how Amazon dodged taxes years ago).
capping rent and utility payments
Landlords will just find other ways to get money from you, or they'll skimp on maintenance. Or we'll run into the problem San Francisco has with tons of vacancies despite tons of demand, which I'm convinced is because of their rent controls and renter-friendly policies (why give up your lease if you have a really good rate? Just keep paying in case you want to move back...).
Utilities will just provide a crappier service if they're not making enough profit. Instead of that, we should cap utility company profits and require utility companies to have a discounted rate that poorer people can apply for (I'm pretty sure both already exist, they do in my area).
medicare for all
This could be okay, depending on the formulation. We certainly need to change something about our healthcare system. My preference is to force care providers to be more transparent in their pricing, separate health insurance from employers, limit patents, and have strict caps on profits for any pharmaceutical or medical device that was partially funded w/ taxpayer dollars.
I don't know if that would solve it, and I think it's impractical to actually get those passed, so I'm not necessarily opposed to expanding Medicare. But I don't think it's the panacea politicians make it out to be.
investigated fossil fuel companies
Yeah, do more of that! There's a lot of corruption in that industry, and we need to air it out.
It's irrelevant how I vote. I live in Utah, which is all but guaranteed to go to Trump. Harris will get something like 30-35% of the vote, RFK will probably get 10%, and Trump will get 55%-ish. The closest a Republican got to losing was Trump in 2016 where McMullen got 20% or so and Trump only got 45%, but he still won by ~20% of the vote (Clinton got 25%-ish). I'd be shocked if I'm off by more than 5% on any of those.
It literally does not matter who I vote for, so I might as well give third parties a little more credibility.
I especially enjoy that investigating companies is seen as an obvious and unforgivable indictment. They're not even going to argue it was baseless or anything. Just that she had the audacity to challenge companies.
She hasn't been a great public speaker so far as VP, but I don't know how different she'll be as a presidential candidate, I'm looking forward to it.
Looks like she still has that pained speaking look in Delaware likeshe's barely getting the words out, but idk, first stop or something on the trail, right?
Careful newsmax, studies have shown dem positions are overwhelmingly popular across the country when not branded as such, like people who love the ACA while hating Obamacare. I don't see enough "woke" or "blue" labeling alongside those chyrons, so your viewers might start supporting Harris lowering taxes.
Someone with more insight into her history and policies mind telling me why people might dislike Harris? The most common thing I've seen is COP. BAD. AH.
Is that related to the misinterpretations regarding her marijuana arrest and conviction record?
I was able to argue for Biden. Harris I'm a bit behind on.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Threaten me harder daddy.
*mommy
Mamala
I failed.... Should have put Step-Mommy.
Step-Mamala?
My massive corporate tax hike is stuck in the dryer.
I vote for that because of the innuendo in Portuguese and Spanish
Step-sis?
Now I want to vote for her even harder.
Seriously, is this supposed to be deterring people? Who looks at any of those and thinks they're a bad thing, except for oil executives, corporate investors, landlords and the ultra-rich?
Remember that time when Fox News popped up a list of AOC's goals, then realized that their viewers might actually be in favor of them and took it down.
Don't forget the temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
Zombies?
Stupid people?
Wants to continue democracy and peaceful transfer of power
Consistently demonstrates adequate mental health
Respects religious diversity
Has stable and data-driven policy stances
The fact that this is even a contest makes me fucking weep for humanity.
Oh my god! Literally the end of Western civilization!
Isn't 80
What's kind of strange is this one. It sounds good, but aren't those what we call "technocrats?" I don't know enough to say whether I think it's good or bad, but I know people talk about that as if it is bad.
Does she? What policy stances does she have and what data does she have to back them up?
I agree with the rest though, and honestly the first was pretty much the only reason I voted for Biden last time.
Is there another way to do it, or do they just want to add a scary word?
Comservatives hate taxes. They complain that the left is entitled and then bitch and moan when they have to actually pay their share for the services they use. Nothing will get them more fired up than hating on taxes even if you show them just how vile and expensive the private version is.
“I earned that money(all by myself and at no point did I use any tax-funded infrastructure no not me not never).”
Don't tell them about school vouchers. They'll never understand how that is funded.
Or single family homes. That policy from Project 2025 will increase local taxes and other municipal services fees. It's just not at the federal level.
But that’s another way to funnel public funds into private coffers. They’re all about that. Like private prisons! Maybe there should be a prison voucher system now that I think about it. Ugg
A libertarian "sovereign citizen" is absolutely peak conservative entitlement. "I should have all the benefits of society while putting nothing that I don't feel like back in."
"Sovereign citizens" aren't libertarian, they're just delusional. Everybody makes fun of those yokels, especially us libertarians...
All healthcare providers spontaneously switch to being free? Otherwise, yeah, it's gonna be taxes I think
Surprised they didn't just put "SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE ADVOCATE"
Single payer Medicare for all I think has been an idea considered to get us incrementally closer to a publicly funded option for all like federal employees like senators and reps currently have. If it's good enough for those citizens it should be good enough for all citizens, but getting there has been awful because oligarchs won't fund a campaign based on real public healthcare reform and political parties dump candidates who don't get money.
They never say Tax Funded private health care with horrifying outcomes.
Imagine thinking these are bad things....
These things are all legitimately good for humanity and .. life. Are Republicans literally ghouls?
Republicans in office: YES, they absolutely are!
Republican voters: For some YES! but also there's a fuckton of propaganda aimed at them like... (checks notes) Newsmax for one... They're manipulated into believing these are bad things :/
Yeah, part of it is they think government intervention of nearly any kind is worse than no intervention.
but not good for billionaire pockets, that's the problem. humanity as a whole or a few hundred rich guys. fuck the rich
First of all, screw Trump and J.D. Vance, their policies are awful. There's no way they're earning my vote, so it's either going to be Harris (who I very much disagree with) or a third party protest vote. I'll be watching the campaign to decide which it's going to be, though my vote doesn't really matter because my state is most likely going to Trump by 20%+ spread unless there are more anti-vaxxers than I thought in my state.
That said, I disagree with most of those policies, but I don't think they're things that should scare you from voting for her, I just think they're bad policies. For example:
Corporations aren't people, they're legal structures made up of people. Instead of raising the corporate tax, I think we should be taxing people, not entities.
The intent here is to target wealthy people, so we should instead tax stock options at fair market value immediately upon issue, with perhaps an exemption on the first $20k or so of stock options (or perhaps to non-highly compensated employees) or if it is deposited directly into a workplace retirement account (but it would count toward the max). That would target one of the major ways the super-wealthy avoid taxes. A high corporate tax just encourages more creative accounting (e.g. here's how Amazon dodged taxes years ago).
Landlords will just find other ways to get money from you, or they'll skimp on maintenance. Or we'll run into the problem San Francisco has with tons of vacancies despite tons of demand, which I'm convinced is because of their rent controls and renter-friendly policies (why give up your lease if you have a really good rate? Just keep paying in case you want to move back...).
Utilities will just provide a crappier service if they're not making enough profit. Instead of that, we should cap utility company profits and require utility companies to have a discounted rate that poorer people can apply for (I'm pretty sure both already exist, they do in my area).
This could be okay, depending on the formulation. We certainly need to change something about our healthcare system. My preference is to force care providers to be more transparent in their pricing, separate health insurance from employers, limit patents, and have strict caps on profits for any pharmaceutical or medical device that was partially funded w/ taxpayer dollars.
I don't know if that would solve it, and I think it's impractical to actually get those passed, so I'm not necessarily opposed to expanding Medicare. But I don't think it's the panacea politicians make it out to be.
Yeah, do more of that! There's a lot of corruption in that industry, and we need to air it out.
I'm begging you not to make that protest vote given Project 2025 is on the agenda.
It's irrelevant how I vote. I live in Utah, which is all but guaranteed to go to Trump. Harris will get something like 30-35% of the vote, RFK will probably get 10%, and Trump will get 55%-ish. The closest a Republican got to losing was Trump in 2016 where McMullen got 20% or so and Trump only got 45%, but he still won by ~20% of the vote (Clinton got 25%-ish). I'd be shocked if I'm off by more than 5% on any of those.
It literally does not matter who I vote for, so I might as well give third parties a little more credibility.
if you had a billion dollars in your bank you might think they're coming for you somehow.
If I had a billion dollars I'd just buy myself a summer palace to hide in while I fund scientific experiments aimed at disproving materialism.
Why are Republicans so much better at making Democrats cool then the Democrats?
Because Democrats have been an opposition party since Reagan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
Warning ⚠️
Republicans make young democrats hard
yep yep yep
Stop, I can only get so erect
smdh.... OP missed the most damning ones:
-WANTS TO CRIMINALIZE KICKING PUPPIES
-DRIVES HER GRANDMOTHER TO BINGO ON SUNDAY AFTERNOONS
-LAUGHS
-HAS BASIC HUMAN DECENCY
I especially enjoy that investigating companies is seen as an obvious and unforgivable indictment. They're not even going to argue it was baseless or anything. Just that she had the audacity to challenge companies.
So... Those are supposed to be bad things?
Shit, that makes me want to vote for her, and I’m not even centre-right, or American!
Wait. Are those supposed to be bad things?
To conservative corporate prison bitches, they are all horrible things that will destroy our country somehow.
It's a common thing really, claiming the efforts of virtue to be vice and that their personal vices are virtues. It's part of how the Big Lie works.
Wants a taco truck at every corner.
*lesbian run
Woah.
(Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based! Based!)
Vance is also anti-choice, including for women and children who have been raped.
Abortion is really the Republicans' Achilles heel. Harris needs to hammer them on that.
Good point, that's a good focus for her.
She hasn't been a great public speaker so far as VP, but I don't know how different she'll be as a presidential candidate, I'm looking forward to it.
Looks like she still has that pained speaking look in Delaware likeshe's barely getting the words out, but idk, first stop or something on the trail, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKvJJR-6jO4
I like the words she's saying, but I'm not exactly pumped up by her seeking lack of conviction.
I'll keep listening.
I think it's all those years lawyering. She's spent more time arguing cases in front of juries and judges than political speeches and it kinda shows.
Yea, I think you're right. It'll be interesting to see how she develops being in such a different role.
What I saw sounds so canned that I can't take anything she's saying seriously, but I've yet to watch the Milwaukee speech someone just recommended
For her speech in Milwaukee, I think she blew it out of the water. She got the crowd hyped.
https://youtu.be/Ru2OdYO16aw?t=3881
Thank you!
You are right, that was a much better showing with much more enthusiasm and much more convincing appeal to progressives.
I look forward to hearing more.
I thought she looked like she was throwing up in her mouth in Delaware, but this really was a good speech.
And these things are bad why?
wait nobody is questioning whether this is real? oh my god I live in a bubble
I hope it's real. Those are all great selling points!
Nothing is real
Newsmax viewers can't read anyway.
where do i sign up?
At your local polling place!
Covid should have been the pants on fire moment for M4A, but still no discussion.
These aren't bugs, they are, literally, features.
Careful newsmax, studies have shown dem positions are overwhelmingly popular across the country when not branded as such, like people who love the ACA while hating Obamacare. I don't see enough "woke" or "blue" labeling alongside those chyrons, so your viewers might start supporting Harris lowering taxes.
Someone with more insight into her history and policies mind telling me why people might dislike Harris? The most common thing I've seen is COP. BAD. AH.
Is that related to the misinterpretations regarding her marijuana arrest and conviction record?
I was able to argue for Biden. Harris I'm a bit behind on.
ACAB but she's way better than trump or biden so I say go for it, at least she strongly opposes fascism.
Cop bad, no s, deal with it.
Other than that she doesn't seem to have any actual principles on policy.
That's, ya know, most of it. Who the fuck is she besides not Trump?
Guess we're going to find out.
Looks like they support her now
I'm going to need proof that this is real
Stop or I will vote and I am not American, I am just gonna find some way…
I need some stamp booklet with legendary elections I voted in and I have a feeling this one is gonna be pretty epic